Thread 149350959

>Writers want audiences to hate US Agent
>Write him to be one of the most interesting and relatable heroes post Endgame
>Writers desperately want us to like Ironheart and Captain America Sam
>The former is a legit supervillain sociopath, the latter regressed into a wishy washy crybaby whenever someone has something he doesn't.

Did Disney outsource writers from Bizarro World or what?

>>149350959 (OP)
>>The former is a legit supervillain sociopath, the latter regressed into a wishy washy crybaby whenever someone has something he doesn't.
Because the former is a woman's idea of how a man would act and the latter is there to fight "toxic masculinity"

>>149351075
I think you got mixed up

>>149350959 (OP)
What is this narrative that writers want people to hate USAgent? He's always been the politically incorrect hero. That's been his thing for decades. Your claim makes even less sense since he's part of the New Avengers.

>>149351115
Because it's very apparent they wanted audiences to hate him

>>149350959 (OP)
Literally who?

>>149351154
Yeah, that's why they gave him a redemption arc in the very same show he was introduced in. Retard.

>>149351115
Walkerfags can't accept Walker is the Guy Gardner-ish loveable asshole, he's got to be the perfect one true Captain America everybody glazes while Sam becomes a supervillain out of jealousy.

>>149350959 (OP)
Riri is comic accurate

ep1 Riri would've made a deal with Mephisto to become famous and successful just like Parker did.

ep6 Riri didn't even believe Mephisto could bring back AI Natalie hence why she was still studying the magic ritual, she obviously wasn't expecting the real Natalie to return.

Walker went through something similar, it's called character development.

>>149351363
>redemption arc
That implies he did something wrong in the first place. Meanwhile, our "hero" Sam broke his arm and took away the shield he didn't even want right after Walker's friend was killed and he was grieving.

>>149351432
I don't think you know what "character development" means. And why would Riri even want her magic AI back instead of her real friend or dad or whoever? Nevermind that to become famous and successful all she had to do was literally not be a thieving cunt. But why earn billions when you can steal thousands, eh?

>"Walker did nothing wrong"
>"just get a job at McDonalds, Riri"
retard

>>149351363
"Redemption" implies that he did anything wrong to begin with.

all Scott had to do was not being a thieving cunt and not steal the Ant-Man suit, go back to working at Parker Robbins like a good ex-con wagie.

>>149350959 (OP)
>Writers want audiences to hate US Agent
Did they? They went out of their way to show the US government screwed him over and gave him a redemptive moment where he rescues civilians in the climax of TFATWS.

>>149351527
>That implies he did something wrong in the first place.

And here it is >>149351376

>>149351115
Because he's portrayed as the bad guy for killing a terrorist that is involved in the murder of his best friend, and this "crime" leads to him having the shield taken and for him to lose his job

^
it wasn't him

>>149351653
But Hank WANTED Scott to steal the Ant-Man suit in order to get the world's greatest henchman for his master plan. I love the guy, Scott is just a normal dude with heroic tendencies

>>149351763
You forgetting that Steve fought in a war? He probably took more lives while wearing the stars and stripes than Walker has.

>>149351763
Anon this is the Avengers, literally every member has a kill count.

RIRI was already a hero in black panther. There was no reason for her to backslide like this. She's too smart to do petty crimes for money.

>>149351709
so what winter soldier is also a bad guy and he killed tony starks parents

>>149352216
Yeah, but they were HYDRA-nazis, and Hollywood doesn't think they count as people.

>>149352216
Officially declared wars make no crime of killing.

>>149351653
>Parker Robbins

im imagining the hood with gus own edgy ice crean franchise and it has me laughing. like in metalocalypse when they when to tokis hometown and everything was nice and sweet until you see the random ass death metal music shop with death metal blasting

What happened to Rhodey's niece anyway? She seemed like a much better character far as "2010 diversity push" characters go, not that it's much of a praise but Marvel's motto was "if it's not Bendislop, we don't want it" so we're stuck with Riri instead.

>>149352868
He killed brainwashed SHIELD agents.

>>149350959 (OP)
Leftist morality is inverted.

>>149355046
Finally somebody calls it out.
Rubbed me the wrong way when I was watching the Avengers but all I got was "i-it's kill or be killed, so he was justified" bullshit.

>>149351763
He's a soldier and its a war. Captain America is one of the few superheros I expect to have a body count when there's no other option forward

>>149354953
>What happened to Rhodey's niece anyway? She seemed like a much better character far as "2010 diversity push" characters go
She was an OC who came out of nowhere in Marvel's final attempt to push Rhodey as a solo character, an ongoing that sold so badly it got cancelled after 5 issues, and her only other appearances were in an AU, one of the 2015 Secret Wars minis. Nobody knew she existed because nobody read those books except the most hardcore Iron Man/War Machine fans. "Why didn't Marvel push Lila Rhodes instead of creating Riri?" isn't the strong argument people pretend it is, nobody knew or cared she existed until she became an argument against Benis creating Riri, which he'd still have done anyway for credit and royalties.

Lila Rhodes was a total copy of Natasha Irons from DC anyway, if she'd stuck around people would probably complain about her as much as Riri, just for different reasons.

>>149354953
Bendis didn't get residuals from her

>>149355053
pretty much

>>149351763
Superman literally killed Mr Mxyzptlk in that comic

>>149355072
He also killed NeoHydra shield staff on those genocide planes at the of Winter Soldier. Not saying it wasn't justified, but I'm sure there was a janitor or comms grunt who got assigned to those planes without knowing what was going on

>>149351679
It's always odd to see people like OP gloss over this. He literally chooses saving lives over revenge, teams up with Sam and Bucky in that last episode, and gets rehired by the end.

>>149351115
>Johnny football star hometown hero married to the captain of the cheerleading squad...id an incel now.

>>149350959 (OP)
Been that way since the beginning. Way back in Wanda Vision the writers wanted the audience to side with Wanda and hate the SWORD guys who were wanting to rescue the town held hostage.

>>149351527
>That implies he did something wrong in the first place.
Yes, executing a surrendering man in broad daylight in front of a dozen cameras was bad.

>>149350959 (OP)
Same show also wanted the audiences to like the Flag Smashers but they were nothing but spoiled little bastards bullying everyone on screen for lols.

>>149354632
You implying the US needs a declared war to kill confirmed terrorists?

>>149351653
The weird thing with Scott was how in Endgame everyone else started treating him like shit for no actual reason. The guy who was their savior and brought the method to save everything is the little dork everyone makes fun of each time they notice him while collectively making really smug as fuck faces at him.

>>149354632
Until about five minutes after the war is declared over. Then toe courts jump in and start prosecuting for soldiers being ordered to shoot the enemy.

>>149350959 (OP)
Nobody thinks this

>>149350959 (OP)
>Writers want audiences to hate US Agent
Did they? He's constantly presented as a down to earth guy who was put in a bad situation and outright fucked over by the US government.