Why are Flash's villains so much more reasonable than Batman's villains?

>>149361985 (OP)
An ideal Batman series would have the majority of his villains actually rehabilitated. That would justify his no kill rule. Many of his villains are only evil due to chemical mutations. Batman's a super genius. He seriously can't just come up with cures?

>>149362025
>Many of his villains are only evil due to chemical mutations.
I mean out of the list in the OP they don't, it's really just joker and ivy. Riddler, Harley, Dent, and Scarecrow are just mentally ill, and Bane is just a fucking asshole. Other's like Freeze the problem isn't his illness it's other things.

>>149361985 (OP)
Their hero is also more reasonable

they just want to steal shit

>>149362068
From a legal perspective, only Dent and some depictions of Maxie Zeus and Mad Hatter qualify as legally insane. From a medical perspective the overwhelming vast majority of Batman's rogues are either perfectly healthy from a mental perspective or are neurotic in a manner that leaves them functional.

>>149362154
>From a legal perspective, only Dent and some depictions of Maxie Zeus and Mad Hatter qualify as legally insane.
How is Joker not included there?

>>149362179
He just says he’s insane cause he’s whacky and thinks “the world is evil so I should watch it burn”, but he perfectly understands the implications of his actions and cause and effect.
He’s much more manically depressed than he is insane.

>>149362025
Sounds like the Adam West Batman setting, where even someone like The Joker has lines they willingly refuse to cross.

>>149361985 (OP)
Gotham's water makes everyone go insane.

>the lead poisoning from the pipes
>the various drugs dumped in the water over the decades (Thomas Wayne participated in this at one point)
>the supervillain drugs dumped into the water (Ivy's pheromones, Joker gas, Fear Toxin, Venom, etc)
>the Lazarus Pits seeping into the water
>leaks from Ace Chemicals
>the influence of Barbatos, Darkseid, and several unrelated portals to Hell
>Gotham is built on the land of genocided natives
>alien technology bullshit

Why else do you think there are so many supervillains all in Gotham? Or superheroes like the Bat-Family? Gotham will make you go crazy and you'll put on a costume and fight for good or evil.

>>149362238
I know it's basically leading into allegories of total tyrannic control, and slightly unrealistic logistics (even though Batman owns billions of dollars of personal vehicle equipment) but why doesn't Wayne Enterprises just fix the infrastructure of the city so there isn't 10,000 layers of sewers, old city and supervillain gunk?

>>149362280
Replacing the lead pipes in a big city like Gotham would cost at minimum two billion dollars, and that doesn't include treating the water that's already been poisoned by the supervillain and supernatural crap. If Bruce tried to fix Gotham that way, it's possible he would actually go bankrupt. And if he did try to stop the Lazarus Pits from affecting the population, it might actually backfire: the pits reverse aging and heal fatal injuries, so if Gotham suddenly goes sober, the average crook might actually get permanently injured by supervillains or even Batman.

>>149362347
If only they lived in a world with super powered beings or magic that could be used to solve these infrastructure problems

>>149362025
I recall laser lobotomy doing wonders for them!

>>149362422
I'm not sure what the point of this animation was besides to piss off Flashfags, any Flash who has any amount of speedforce attunement will fuck a ninja up

>>149362412
That's true, but you'd have no way of knowing if getting other superheroes involved wouldn't end up making things worse somehow.

>whoops, we replaced all the lead pipes but the lead pipes were actually holding back something even worse
>we got rid of the Lazarus Pits but everyone is too dependent on them to survive how terrible Gotham is that people start dropping like flies
>we removed the pollution in the water but now evil Atlanteans or whatever underwater antagonists want to muscle in now that things are safer
>everyone's IQ shoots up and now they want to unionize and replace the police
>the city becomes safer but it starts attracting Metropolis-tier levels of crime and supervillains (you thought Joker was bad, now you're stuck with giant gorillas and aliens 24/7)

>>149361985 (OP)
The Flash does not have a 'No Kill' rule.

>>149361985 (OP)
Are you kidding? I think having Reverse Flash or someone as obsessive as Thrawn would be bad

>>149362068
>I mean out of the list in the OP they don't,
Joker, Twoface, Poison Ivy, and Bane. That's most of them. Bane's a drug addict, and Twoface was splashed with chemicals.

>>149361985 (OP)
The Rogues see challenging Flash as more of a game than a psychotic obsession. So long as they don't try to up the stakes, they know Flash will play along with whatever they've got planned for the week.

>>149361985 (OP)
Aside from the mentioned Reverse Flashes, most of them are simply turning to crime or illegal activities as a necessity, not a philosophy. Simply put, they're not psychotic to begin with.
There are benefits and disadvantages to this, it means as said that Flash can reason with them or they can reason with each other, but it also means they're less susceptible to being duped or dissuaded through some character quirk.

And I didn't want this to be a A vs B thing, but in hindsight I realized their pragmatism was also why it felt reasonable for Captain Cold to associate with the Justice League professionally, since it's all business, compared to any amount of leeway with Harley Quinn who even during her redemption arcs is still visibly unstable.

>>149361985 (OP)
A single Reverse-Flash or Zoom is more troublesome than Batman's entire gallery. They are cunts that are not bound by the constraints of time.

They know their hero can turn them into a mile long red smear if they ever push him too far and they'd rather avoid that

>>149363557
And yet the jonkler has caused more problems for the universe than any of the evil flashes

Okay, but what superhero has the most fuckable villains?

>>149361985 (OP)
>>149362025
Off the top of my head Riddler and Clayface both got redeemed at one point with Edward becoming a detective and Basil joined the Bat Team, until the status quo reasserted itself.