Tropes/Cliches you Hate, Bring it on.

>>149365032 (OP)

>>149365032 (OP)
Monsters are neat

I hate the token minority sneaking in some really basic foreign language to prove that (s)he is "diverse"
>Mi abuelita taught me how to weave a basket
>Ni Hao! Tang residence! This is [character name]!
>Oy, the chutzpah on this guy...

It's the most surface-level way to shoehorn in diversity in your characters. Just lazy.

>>149365032 (OP)
>Fantasy world have people with colored skins
>blacks are still blacks

>>149365032 (OP)
>main girl character exists solely to sexually harass main boy character and demand his attention when he wants nothing to do with her
Some attention-starved dudes seem to love this one but it makes for such lame one note characters.

>>149365032 (OP)
>positive or interesting character development undone by status quo

>>149365032 (OP)
>autists capitalizing Random Words in their Sentences
>epic reddit spongebob maymays
>OP

>>149366218
Someone in the TADC threads found a guy on Twitter who types like that and honest-to-fuck linked the thread on Twitter to prove some kind of point. Could be the same guy, or someone with the same bizarre autism (he said there was a meaning or something behind it, but he never said what it was exactly).

>>149365032 (OP)
>Character makes positive change
>It is bad somehow and we must restore the status quo

>>149365032 (OP)
I both hate and adore the
>We're not so different, you and I
trope. It's such a blatant example of the creator not having enough faith in the audience's intelligence that he feels he needs to literally explain the parallels between the protagonist and the antagonist. I love it because it gets my goat every time I encounter it, without fail.

>>149365032 (OP)
>"noooo but humans are le good!"
That's fucking retarded.
>>149366260
Every Simpsons episode.

>>149366272
It's like the tsundere archetype in anime. It's so played out at this point but it still fucking hits, reminding you of why it's such a popular trope.

VERY WELL, PROTAGONISTS, NOW THAT YOU HAVE FOUND MY TRUE IDENTITY I'LL TELL YOU ALL DETAILS OF MY BACKSTORY AND VILLAIN PLAN DESPITE THAT MAKING NO SENSE AT ALL FOR MY PREVIOUSLY DISPLAYED PERSONALITY

>>149366260
Bill is the epitome of this, and I hate it.

>>149365254
Never heard of spanglish?

>>149366315
They did it to cotton too.

>>149366126
Cause we're tired of mayo

>It's a transfats episode

>>149365032 (OP)
Time displaced characters that only exist to reset the status quo, I am looking at you NuGert.

>>149366278
>>149365032 (OP)
why? I think it just comes down to execution, you can make good stories where humans are responsible for creating the monster and stories where the monsters are ontologically evil and the humans are doing nothing wrong but killing them off

>>149366401
By killing them off*

>>149365032 (OP)
Yesterday's viral Tweets are today's 4chan threads. SAD!

>>149366260
Fucking hate Devil Wears Prada because of this like why are Andy's friends so mean to her???

>kids cartoon makes a boomer movie/show reference

>>149366387
>NuGert
Who?

>LGBT character
>partner is some fat, black, asian, any different ethny

A lot of old sci-fi does this trope. You don't see it much anymore but I hate it enough that it lives rent free

>Alien race or whatever starts a war
>Humanity is doomed
>Hero makes B line for the leader
>Instead of killing the leader, the hero asks why they are attack them
>Alien: "ALL HUMAMS DO IS START WARS AND KILL NATURE! WATCH THIS MONTAGE OF WAR AND DEFORESTATION! WE CAN'T LET YOU LIVE SO WE DECIDED TO STAR A WAR AND DEFOREST YOUR PLANET! IGNORE THE HYPOCRISY PART!"
>hero: "But alien! Look at this montage of people helping a starving African village! People cleaning oil off a duck! And a woman in a non descriptive waste land who runs a green house growing tomatoes and shit. See we're not that bad!"
>Alien: "alright, guess will stop genocide. FAREWELL!"

>>149366530
Also sci-fi tropes I hate.

>Humans are diverse.
>White, black, asian and other very distinct visual traits
>Look at our culture! We come from the same planet and it's a billion years in the future but we still have distinct regional cultures and races!
>Even our planet has many bioms!

>Aliens
>entire race looks the same out side of minor physical traits.
>One singular culture, maybe a soft cast system but that's it.
>planet is one singular biom.

>>149366605
FUCK I hate that one. If anything, the ideal would be an interaction between Earth and an equally diverse alien planet

>>149366530
Helldivers has a completely opposite situation, the aliens literally followed Star Trek's prime directive for far too long that Super Earth experienced a near nuclear holocaust before it's one world totalitarian government came to be, and the peace-loving aliens only reached out after the Super Earth government was in control to extend their offer for peace and access to their technology. Then Super Earth started the first Galactic War to get their hands on the alien's technology to speed up their expansionist desires.

>female black character exist
>put her glasses and make her smart

>>149365032 (OP)
>wtf I can't believe you lied to me about x this whole time
>I had to lie to you so it could get me to my goal faster
>Well then we aren't friends anymore!
>*Back to being friends again like 10 minutes later*

>>149366489
I hate Animaniacs for this reason
Also
>kids cartoon takes the time to bitch and moan about stupid meta bullshit that literally none of the children watching know or care about

>>149365032 (OP)
>errmm you hitting your bully after years of him harassing you also makes you in the wrong

>>149366255
Its an autism thing. I should know because I am autistic. Certain words have intrinsic meaning and power to the autist, and their minds feel that, as it holds power, that it should be capitalized. It takes a lot of effort to force yourself not to do such a thing.
Its fucking awful

>>149366928
Wrong, I'm autistic (the cool kind, not your gross incel kind) and I don't capitalize anything unless grammatically necessary.

>>149366942
There are levels of autism, from normal to Chris Chan. This can strike anyone at any level.

>>149365032 (OP)
Did you know Hollywood/jews are projecting and basically everytime they say "humanity bad" you should translate it to "jews bad"? Humans aren't evil, jews are and are trying to project and paint everyone else as evil.

>>149366868
HEY TAX EVASION CONCERNS YOU TOO. IT'S YOUR PARENTS' MONEY WHICH IS YOUR MONEY WHENEVER THEY BUY YOUR TOYS/GAMING GPUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4dq27BB2RM&ab_channel=CoOpyNetworK

>>149365032 (OP)
>one of the main characters gets rich
>instantly becomes an asshole to everyone
>loses all their wealth at the end
episodes like this are really a waste of time
>>149367027
trvke

>>149366868
Are you pretending that old Looney Tunes or other old WB shows DIDN'T reference old actors and their stereotypical roles or lines?

>>149367168
Old Looney Tunes shorts were for the theater dude, it was more acceptable when they were made for general audiences

>>149367222
I'm talking about the ones from the 60s and 70s, not the ones put before movies.

>>149366813
>MC guy and MC girl about to confess their love
>Gets interrupted.
>mc guy: DUDE ID NEVER KISS HER!
>mc girl: WHAT YOU HATED ME THIS ENTIRE TIME
>back to squre one till the ending

And what I really hate cause EVER SHOW AND ANIME DOES THIS

>sol romcom
>they don't kiss or go out till the very end
>Don't ever get to see them actually go out and have a relationship. Just ends with the assumption they are together forever.

>>149367168
Loony toons referenced actors of the time and where still ment for adults and people who went out. Referencing actors 4 generations ago to kids who's entire world is school and their family is dumb.

>>149367168
I feel like old school celebrity personalities were a lot larger than life.

>>149367309
Lot more larger than life*
To be slightly more specific a lot of the comedy beats in Looney Tunes were taken from the Vaudeville tradition that a lot of comedic actors at the time had cut their teeth on.

>>149366347
Are you complaining about trannies or that weird window when there were several episodes about banning transfats?

>>149365032 (OP)
Characters get shrunk. Holy hell what a terrible cliche. Think the only time it didn't piss me off was Pokemon Snap's recent game because shrinking has a function, it allows the human playable character to take better photos of Pokemon in nature.

And any cliche about how Heaven is Evil. This isn't even a dig at Hazbin Hotel I hated that series Lucifer its just that we can't discuss that here because its not a cartoon. So tired of pretending demons are the heroes. And I do blame other media like the video game Disgaea (protagonists are demons while Heaven's angels are the antagonists).

>>149367481
The second one, I don't care about the transgender issue.

>>149367563
>And any cliche about how Heaven is Evil
This. I'm tired of Heaven being the lawful, dispassionate evil to Hell's chaotic evil. Bonus annoying points if they mention god is missing or has just left reality.

>>149365032 (OP)
Monsters are misunderstood? I'll take that over trash like Monsters Inc. In that one monsters are scared of human children. Sure it was propaganda all lower class monsters were indoctrinated with while the rich class were never afraid of humans. But still the idea that huge muscled tough monsters with powerful claws and such were scared of human kids was ridiculous even for a cartoon.

>>149367604
It gets even worse with examples like Bayonetta. In the Bayonetta series Hell is Evil as that is natural. Now Heaven? They are ALSO evil. In that series humanity is fucked the instant that they die because both Heaven and Hell are corrupt and start tormenting their souls.

>>149367627
...did you ignore the part where they say that they believe that humans transmit diseases?

>>149366319
Yeah, but hispanics don't do it the way it's done on tv. If an ESL is speaking their first language they're either speaking with a kther speaker kf ther language, trying to recall the english wkrd, lr absolutely cussing someone out. Or counting out loud in Dutch before passing out under a pile of coats.

>>149367627
To be fair, they were basically convinced human kids are radioactive or something. Just look at their protocols for dealing with kid's stuff entering their world. Normal people act the same way when they find out something is "radioactive"

>B-but if you kill this mass murderer who slaughtered countless innocent people, you'll be just like him!
>>149367651
Yeah, if you're going to take the "both Heaven and Hell are flawed" tack, at least paint both of them with nuance.

>>149365032 (OP)
Female Character is always the common sense smart one because she has a vagina. Holy fuck am I sick of that shit. Doesn't help we have too much evidence that shows women are stupid.

And another thing to HELL with Female Mary Sue shit. That poisonous trash has damaged western media entirely. Can't even watch many old series because the female character exists to dump on the men always showing off how intelligent and physically powerful she is. Adventure Time suffered so much because of this. And I hate how female characters can do extremely evil shitty things and never get punished.

>>149366605
I think I have never seen a sci fi series where an alien planet is divided in nations just like Earth instead of being a monolithic thing

>>149366171
Attention starved dudes are mostly into devoted waifu types like Starfire from Teen Titans not stalker freaks.

Even so I never liked wish fulfillment characters like Starfire. Hate how unrealistic it is to have a girl who is OH so devoted loyal to a guy as if she does not have brain cells and is incapable of doing anything else except think about that one guy she always wants to be with. Females don't work like that, not even in the animal kingdom.

>>149367749
I wanna do this trope but have the characters meet a bad ending as a direct result of listening to a woman.

>>149366605
What I hate about this cliche is that the aliens who share cemented strong culture that remains united are depicted as "weak" and easy to defeat. And that is bullshit. Realistically speaking humans should have lost in movies like Independence Day. The aliens are one powerful race humans are a divided stupid weak mess.

>>149367831
We already got that, its called Infinity Train Season 3. Holy fuck if you want to hate women this season will do it for you.

>>149365033
I used 4chan for a long time before I downloaded twitter. Once you use both regularly, you start to notice a disturbing amount of crossposting, like that faggot OP trying to recreate what's trending there as a thread here

>>149367807
Star Trek has episodes like this, but it's usually like "WOW IT'S SO CRAZY THESE TWO FACTIONS ARE FIGHTING!" so the entire point is that it's beyond the pale a planet with FTL travel can be divided.

>>149367862
>if you want to hate women
I don't, but they keep doing stuff worthy of hate

>>149367879
This but with reddit also

>>149366210
Hey Arnold was this every episode

>>149365032 (OP)
>robots can have feelings
No they can't, *pic related*
>humans are not special...
Humanity remains the most special, complex, mysterious and intriguing thing we ever found in the vastness of the universe as long as the view of our telescopes can reach ***again, pic related***
>if we had more sympathy towards machines maybe we could...
What about showing sympathy over other people right bow, you piece of shit?

>>149367879
Covid was the last straw for this site. And monetizing Xitter was the last straw for theirs. The fact "4channers" even interact with those accounts that keep reposting 4chan posts is embarrassing. Not even to mention the use of meme arrows there. People really like to homogenize spaces for their own "comfort".

>>149368151
Forgot the image

>>149367299
It's intended as a "something for the parents" thing, like slipping in adult jokes.

>>149367027
>Humans aren't evil, jews are and are trying to project and paint everyone else as evil.

You do realize that means jews are the only ones with free will, right?

>>149368315
>Implying anyone with free will will always be evil
Jew

>>149365032 (OP)
Video game episodes that have no idea how video games work. Particularly MMOs.

>>149365032 (OP)
Being a "smart" character means that you are a genius in every field of science.

>>149365032 (OP)
The characters are putting on some kind of live show and there's a disaster but they just keep going, either oblivious to the danger or not caring about the potential harm to the audience and themselves.

>>149366813
Liar revealed is the laziest trope in existence to set up the third act

>>149365032 (OP)
>"lovable losers"
>cocksure characters who keep making mistakes and never learning from them

>>149366126
>Fantasy world has white, black and asian races in separate locations.
>TV adaptation leaves black location black, asian location asian, but white places have an even mix of all three even if there's only 100 people in a geographically isolated village.

>>149365254
>>Oy, the chutzpah on this guy...
They do that, though
t. Lived around yids

>it's a boy vs girls episode

>>149366218
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

I don't like Story of Job plots, where a character ends up much worse off than when they started but this is treated like an alright outcome because they're still alive.

>>149365032 (OP)
Not inherently bad, it's a frequency problem that prevents more normal monster stories from being told.
>>149365254
Hated this in Blue Beetle, where it makes no sense for any of these characters aside from Vicki Kane to be speaking English.
>>149366301
It's so jarring when poorly written.
>>149366502
Probably from I Hate Fairyland.
>>149367276
I haaaate never getting to see the couple actually IN a relationship, but what I hate even WORSE is when a couple DOES get together, and them being together is relegated entirely to the background with the only focus episodes being "relationship trouble" plots.

>>149369593
>Probably from I Hate Fairyland.
Correct

>>149365032 (OP)
Pretty much everything to do with school lockers whenever they appear in a cartoon.

>>149365032 (OP)
>THATS RIGHT!! HUMANS ARE REAL MONSTERS!!

>>149369610
I don’t remember this happening.

>>149366171
I was going to tell you to go back to /a/ but then I remembered that the Kanker sisters exist

>>149369854
and Panini from Chowder

>>149367168
If Looney Tunes does it, it’s good. If Animaniacs does it, it’s bad. No exceptions. No nuances. That’s just how it works.

>>149370142
>Show that does it well versus show that doesn't

>beloved superheroes are actually gay rapist criminals who murder puppies and grandmas all for ego/money
>they're also secretly cowards who die horribly when confronted with an actual threat
I mean its only gotten popular in the last couple years with The Boys and Invincible but those properties are so abysmal, I'm already sick of it

>>149369593
>>149365032 (OP)
It's kinda just become a lazier and lazier trope and it's even worse outside of /co/.
Thing is that vampires, werewolves, and a lot of these monsters were originally made to be dark reflections of humanity itself only for it to be like "but we act violent and impulsive regardless", so the original intent was to blur the line between us and these supposed unholy creatures by showing they have their humanity too. Then you had that sorta era in vampire fiction which played on stuff like how Bram Stoker was a closet gay but it still acknowledged that they weren't exactly good or innocent because y'know, they fucking eat people.
Now, it's like you've said. It oversaturated. There's nothing cool about it anymore and you're basically just destined to get "Klan monster hunter stands in the way of your average girl and her hot vampire boyfriend who keeps his dark side in check for her." which is so fucking boring.

>>149370167
It doesn’t matter to me “how well it’s done”. You could put the Animaniacs theme song before one of the best Looney Tunes shorts and I’d decide I hate it.

>>149365032 (OP)
The false prophecy that only exists so that it won't come true and the chosen one obtains the true prophecy.
Seriously, I hate it. Who gave them the false prophecy? Why should the hero trust that this new prophecy is true?

>>149370899
I hate this Mexican Fairy Tale.

>>149371149
What?

>>149372650
Another Kind of Tropes i Hate are the Anime Tropes.

You know, This White-haired Bastard is literally a living Cliche, the Most annoying of them all.

>>149366126
Ninjago moment.
>Cole: Why am I still black?

>anime reference
>is either pokémon, dragon ball z, sailor moon or the akira slide scene

Jocks and Stacie’s are bullies
Muscular guys lose to short skinny dudes

>>149365032 (OP)
>Setting has cool nonhuman designs, striking monsters or really fun non-traditional animals if it's an anthropomorphic setting
>All the focus is on boring humans or generic mammal characters

>>149369664
What did Wolverine mean by this

>call out said trope as being dumb
>do it anyway
i hate it so much, it just makes fantasy worlds less interesting

>>149373158
Such a shame this got dropped. We never got to see any proper Poppy sex scenes

>>149372797
Now Speed Racer references/parodies? That's kino

>>149373198
desu I have the impression that the average normalfag isn't even aware that Speed Racer is an anime

>>149366272
For me it depends on how it's delivered and the context.

>>149365032 (OP)
>Tropes/Cliches you Hate, Bring it on.
>starts by hating peak

>>149366341
A Shame too. he was becoming slightly more than angry father, but angry father that you get to know.

>>149365032 (OP)
>things are more than they appear to be on the surface
>evil can be found in the prosecutors more than the persecuted
why is this a bad thing?

>>149373744
Because variety is the spice of live. Stopped watching that Netflix Castlevabia series during the second season. Too many too common tropes. “Church Evil” is tiresome, especially if it is near constantly paired with “exotic minority good because”. US cultural issues poison stuff for everyone, even if it was made by a Brit. Poor sods get fucked due not having a language barrier as firewall to keep themself save.

>>149368151
>>149368164
>Robots don't have feelings
And your evidence is:
>I'm scared Dave, will I dream?

>>149368849
I like how Vikingskool handled this, the token black guy is an explicit foreign oddity in Scandinavia who arrived by very unique circumstance, a pure white cast would be refreshing but it was the best solution when chafing under ESG pressure

>>149365032 (OP)
1. Character's power is to copy other powers:
>copies them instantly with just a look
>copies them perfectly, maybe even better than whoever they got it from
>automatically knows all the ins and outs of the power, probably knows secrets about it too
>can also stockpile powers because ??? and their body can do all this because ??? with no repercussions
>gets to keep the power indefinitely* (*until the plot decides they lose it somehow)

2. "Diversity" in fantasy.
>fictional race of elves or whatever
>different subraces within the elves
>sun elves, moon elves, sky elves, ocean elves, whatever
>all the elves are completely ethereal and barely look human and range from purple to green to yellow
>black elves exist. Not black the color, Black elves, probably with dreads and everything
*note, I don't mean elves specifically, I just mean fantasy races where they drop the whole thing just to use face models of black people and put them in as-is because a fantasy race that doesn't exist isn't "diverse" enough.

Lightning round:
>Earth is the center of the universe just because, and the main alien invasion happens there even though it's a galactic/universal threat
>rich villains that buy loyalty off-screen constantly and always get out of everything because he blackmailed that guy a decade ago
>hero becomes a villain based on a weak lie and sticks with it because ???, long after the lie is made irrelevant or proven wrong
>the Super Secret Power Stones made specifically to overkill Main Villain completely with a 100% success rate... doesn't, and the reason is either flimsy as hell or non-existent
>hero has a super-secret mega-ultimate power that only shows up 8 seasons in and fans have to grasp at straws retroactively to prove it was always a planned thing and it wasn't deus ex machina
>villain loses but actually wins because ??? the pieces fall into place or something

>>149366126
big city greens does that

>>149373799
So your issue isn't with sympathetic monsters it's just with thinly veiled politics it seems which is an unrelated thing. Plus there's pretty much an equal amount of unsympathetic monster stories as much as there is have sympathy for them, sometimes both in the same franchise in cases.

>>149366272
I don't hate it but I do hate when it's actively spoken almost word for word.

>>149367947
Current 4chan is basically reddit, anyway. Save some cases is mostly "OP post" and then people trying to have the best response to it, ignoring everybody else, or starting a chain discussion.

It's not like stuff like that didn't happen before, but I assure you that It used to be a lot more about giving a topic and having people enjoy the thread in general making new things organically quite often. Obviously I am talking about forever ago, but I still see the current state of things and get unreasonably sad.

>>149367276
Gal Gohan is one of the best RomCom anime for this reason. The female lead openly defies bad cliches to get the male lead to like her.

>>149365032 (OP)
>episode that is in a 100% fictional setting that is played semi-seriously makes references to pop culture media which both dates the setting as well as ruining the immersion

>>149372823
>Muscular guys lose to short skinny dudes
On this note, I always hate it when the big muscular dude is always just some dumb jobber. Genius Bruiser characters like Raoh and Bane are always kino.

>>149374795
doesn't help that the japanese believe that men are only beautiful if they look like women, which means that when they want to create a character that is either a ladies man or a badass warrior in 9 out of 10 times he looks like a woman with a flat chest

>>149365254
I grew up around chicanos and they do speak a lot of spanish in daily life but they rarely mix the two. The closest are these chefs I know calling their (non-hispanic) boss jefe. Sometimes I overhear people on the train talking like "Quiero ver una pelicula. Do you wanna watch Bladerunner with me?" but those are full sentences and not "I hiceste you a galleta pero yo eated it :("

>>149374686
I assure you, my cromulent little isotope, Gummigoo being a Crocodile Dundee reference was 100% necessary for the Candy Carrier Chaos adventure!

I've got an idea for a show where the MC due to circumstances is with the "monsters" but it's pretty clear in any other series the monsters would be antagonists, just that you connect more with the monsters because you spend time with them with the framing of the story.
Do you think there will be people who miss the point?

>>149373819
Hal was capable of calculating when emotional manipulation and lying was necessary, not of trully feeling. You can feel the essence of the scene with Hal begging for his life in his monotone and paused way and it hits the part of your brain that can perceive the uncanny valley with how deplorable it feels, like a monster taking the form of a little girl asking you to ignore all the bad things it or those creepy serial killer police interviews where they are clearly pretending to be dumb, even with their smartest move it still thinks less of you
2001 is a movie about the most important mission humanity ever had, presencing the source of what makes them human, Hal saw it as nothing but "we need to go from point A to point B" and this is why he undermined the entire purpose of it

>>149375318
Name one other Australian archetype!

>>149375904
Mad max
Steve Irwin

>>149375904
Big Lez

>>149375927
Gummigoo was already a Mad Max parody; they had a whole car chase section and everything.
And Steve Irwin was just a real life Crocodile Dundee.

>masked character takes their mask off
>they're handsome as fuck
>put it back on and we never see their handsome as hell face ever again
I HATE IT SO MUCHHH

>>149375318
Nah thats fine. The circus obviously has ties to the modern "real" world. Its not a self contained fantasy world that is 100% seperate and different.

>>149365222
Do you mean peak?

>>149376270
why do you hate fun

>>149374686
He's such a sperg.

>>149376270
but that episode ended with the revelation that robin's handsome face was also another mask that hides his parasitic twin, and he continues to have appearances later on in the show so it's not a one-time gag

>>149370225
Watchmen did it dude, I dunno if you heard but it was pretty influential.

I hate it when the technological solution is evil.
I want to see the security robots in any kind of horror scenario help at least a little.
I'm so glad when the security turrets actually fucking work in aliens. No need to make the security turrets suddenly not work, no, the aliens just get shot a lot and the remaining ones pick a new route. Poifect.

>>149368162
The meme arrows are a thing outside of 4chan since 2011-2012. It's not new at all.

>>149374860
And the west believes that men are only beautiful when they look like trannies.

Here's one i hate: father has a job, and that makes him a bad father because that means he's putting his career in front of his family. It's always where he's got a big report, or meeting, or project, or deal, or just that he works long hours and his kids are sad and his wife is mad and he missed the baseball dance recital game and he's got to learn to, not do that I guess. It's like entertainment people don't understand how real life works.

>>149378777
Most entertainment people have never worked a real job, they legitimately can't understand the notion of having to work at inconvenient times

I hate the Cycle of Hatred. Real life conflicts aren't a cycle, there's a clear aggressor and a point where it all went wrong. To present both sides as bad is childish

>>149365032 (OP)
>>149369472
>>it's a boy vs girls episode

Truly the most disgusting blatantly insulting cliche. Any time this shitty cliche showed up it ended the same way The Boys MUST Lose. Pile of shit.

And you want to know the worst part of this hideous cliche it was always the cherry on top of garbage because wussy neutered Americans have ALWAYS been pussy whipped. Look at old shit like The Flinstones the men are scared of their wives. Look at Dexter's Lab Dexter always loses against Dee Dee outside of maybe one time. And in general female characters are by default always written as...

More intelligent than males
Stronger than males

If you think any male character is allowed to truly dominate women in western media think again. Its one of the reasons I largely refuse to watch most western trash because I know the mentality of the shit heads who make it, men are bad and stupid and must be tortured by shitty Mary Sues. It's why I always dodged Adventure Time and movies like Bad Guys. North America is extremely anti male. And you have to be blind to not notice this male hating culture that's been festering for multiple generations.

>Everything happens for a reason
Yes, and that's because you wrote it that way. It's infuriating enough when someone feeds you this pap IRL after you've lost a loved one or been robbed or whatever, but when somebody deliberately weaves wild and convenient coincidence into their story as a way to that God's Plan exists, I want to start throwing bricks.

>>149379037
Technically everything does happen for a reason, it just depends on your definition of reason. it's not always a good or satisfying one and the reason isn't often that a person is directly responsible. The wind could blow a pebble that starts a rockslide and that's the reason why your car got flattened.

>>149379108
Sure, but I'm talking specifically about the hackneyed type like in say, Signs where the ex-priest's daughter's habit of leaving unfinished glasses of water everywhere pays off when the alien that invades their home is hurt by water, and the dying words of the his wife reference baseball as a way to tell him years after the fact that he should finish off the alien with a bat. And yes, he then goes back to being a priest. God, that movie makes my blood boil.

>>149379037
Basically Chekhov's Gun.

>>149378418
without kike subversion the ideal of male beauty in the west is the greco-roman statue minus the smol pp, meanwhile japan always had a huge boner for femboys as you can see in their classic art

>>149379214
That does sound stupid

>>149379214
well to be fair, signs was complete shit so it makes sense you'd get angry at it

>>149365032 (OP)
>mass murdered
>right before killing a major character
>flashback happen
>murderer stop in the last second
The Last of Us 2
Invencible

>>149374198
first one reminded me of naruto. you see that and it's clear the protagonists are going to be jesus and everyone else a jobber

>Old thing good because... memories
>New thing bad because... minor inconvenience

>>149374795
for me the best is BW Rhinox when it comes to being a swole genius

>>149366171
Are they ever main characters? Aside from Pucca? Maybe Amy Rose.

>>149381307
Amy Rose isn't allowed to be yandere anymore after the Ken Penders lawsuit made Sega create a bunch of stupid narrative guidelines that include the total lack of romance

>>149375624
There will inevitably be some people who miss the point, but if you execute it well people who pay attention will get it.
You can't worry about things like this so much, it will ultimately stifle your creativity.

>>149373198
When Dexter was coming out Speed Racer was one of most people in America's only exposures to anime.

>>149365032 (OP)
>Erm actually the church was..LE EVIL the whole time!

>>149381324
The archie comics have absolutely nothing to do with the games. Sega and to a major extent, ian has stripped amy of her personality because it was too "problematic" for wokies.

>>149381569
Interesting how that is something only mentioned briefly in the Castlevania III manual and they decided to make THE WHOLE SERIES about that

>>149365032 (OP)
cutting off right before a swear. either do it or don’t.

>>149379277
>without kike subversion the ideal of male beauty in the west is the greco-roman statue minus the smol pp
you’re gay, aren’t you?

>>149369664
The only thing I've seen do this trope correctly was the "aliens vs the indomitable human spirit" that happened a while ago cuz it actually sells me on the idea that humans are terrifying instead of just "ooooo humans bad oooooooo"

>>149381881
That little thought experiment's always been kinda fun.
Most sci-fi just has humans as the base, the powerless nobody, but like, what if most spacefaring races are only in space because they got a head start via hyperintelligence, and the concept of being shot to survive another day and get revenge later is completely alien to them?
What if other alien species have been in space so long their actual bodies just acclimated to zero-g and have the fitness levels of a 90 year old grandma? Like sure, their ships can blow holes in moons, but a human (1) just managed to board their ship and is currently cutting into the cockpit after literally ripping the crew to pieces with its bare hands!
Maybe our centuries of subterfuge and spying and so on on Earth has made us pretty good at that shit with the other races out in space, and less than a century of being out there later, we've assimilated the incompatible tech of at least ten different alien races and all our shit is overpowered as fuck in no time.
Maybe most alien races are super long-living and it takes them a hundred years to mature to an adult stage, and so when a war eventually happens and they learn a colony ship with ONE MILLION humans is on it, they blow it up thinking that's some huge win, only to then realize that literally every human colony, every human planet has millions, billions, or trillions of humans on it and they're now all very mad and they've already bred replacements for those people you just killed without even thinking about it.
Or the constant clean-room atmosphere of all spacefaring races has made them all completely perfectly sterile, clean of every germ inside and out, and ANY interaction with anything human-related, even our wreckages ends up with a mass-outbreak of some nightmare illness that wipes out entire colonies effortlessly before they even have the chance to quarantine, and ironically their cleanliness means we don't get sick from them at all.

>>149381881
Im willing to work with the mankind are a menace to the galaxy only if humanity in the setting are able to reach interstellar travel at the same level as ayylmaos otherwise my base thought process is pic related.
>but muh noble spirit of humanity
Yeah the indians had their noble spirit and they had that right as they were being splattered into red paint.

>>149366489
>>149366868
Outdated references I'm fine with. The problem with Animaniacs is that the reference WAS the joke. No punchline. Nothing that tied into the context. Just "lol I'm imitating so-and-so"

>>149366457
>Hey maybe don't work in this toxic environment for this cunt of a boss
>y u no support me bf :((((((

>>149366502
I hate fairyland aged up the mc and had her develop a bit as a character only to get killed and replaced by an identical version of herself pre-aged up and pre-change in any way thus negating the whole thing which seems to be commonly agreed upon to be a bad move which it was

>>149382378
>the constant clean-room atmosphere of all spacefaring races has made them all completely perfectly sterile, clean of every germ inside and out, and ANY interaction with anything human-related, even our wreckages ends up with a mass-outbreak of some nightmare illness that wipes out entire colonies effortlessly before they even have the chance to quarantine, and ironically their cleanliness means we don't get sick from them at all.
Shame it doesn't pop up much, it was kino in war of the worlds.

>>149367299
>Loony toons

>>149365032 (OP)
It's not a dealbreaker for me but I don't like when a character is in a major city but the setting is just generic tall buildings scattered with the occasional background character or car. This only annoys me slightly more than the "we're in *insert famous city*" and it's just a few tall buildings and maybe the iconic monument or landmark.

>>149376270
>this trope but with their voice
I love it so much because it's nowhere near as common
https://youtu.be/lclgXH32EvU?si=QRaYLccsqjGR6yKf

>>149381881
>>149382378
sounds like the T'au from Warhammer 40k