Did people actually hate Elemental? I get that people meme the concept (what if elements have...LE FEELINGS???) but it led to so many good visual gags, you can really feel how much fun the animators had working on this.
No one cared, much like this thread.
>>149367824 (OP)> No cute flame gfOnly reason to even acknowledge this film.
>>149367824 (OP)the film was fun. It came too late unfortunately. If it came out before Covid, it wouldve been bigger
>>149367824 (OP)>you can really feel how much fun the animators had working on this.I'm sure serial killers have fun with their victims. Doesn't mean they're doing anything good with their fun. I'd give the movie credit if it had the balls to go "you know what, the culture my grandparents came from was kind of shit, so maybe we should adopt or make a new one." But they don't even do that. A storm blows throw her father's homeland, like Ned Flanders her father's house is the only one destroyed, and no one helps rebuild? They don't even wish him well in his journey overseas? Sounds like a shitty people that aren't worth emulating.
>>149367824 (OP)We all know what the purpose of this movie was for, it's just a below average zootopia.
I didn't hate it, but pre-release the one anon showing the storybook showed why marketing had no idea what to do with it. It was a real boring story that does not justify a 200 million dollar budget.
As for the movie itself? It's okay, but damn do they really need to lean into a message. You can tell the story was designed by committee, because things happen, but in a super sanitized way.
Like Ember's parents leaving Firelands for Element City. Why? If this paralleled real life, it would be because of war, poverty, or persecution. But we can't imply that the fires live in a shithole, so let's just make the reason that their house was destroyed and now they must leave their loving and supportive community for no reason.
They want racism, but they don't want to show racism. All of the other elements' discriminatory practices against the fires are logical and reasonable, because they're literal fire that would destroy things. The movie even makes them destroy things as visual gags like it's funny, so they're sending us mixed signals.
>>149368061It's actually a self-justificating role for the writer. He abandoned his asian family and their small buisness to study film production which created a rift between him and his father. iirc he wrote the film after his father died and it was a way gor him to rewrite his life decisions.
It's a pretty unremarkable movie. The romance is somewhat alright but even for a children's movie it's sloppy. Like the firepeoples are literally almost dying every scene and it's barely aknowledged.
>>149368352Wait, so is he supposed to be the fire chick or the water dude?
>>149367824 (OP)The movie is boring. The only entertaining part was the Asian director putting his dead grandma who told him to marry Asian in the film.
>>149368444The original story was the fire was a dude and the water was a female, mirroring him marrying a white woman. Pixar moved it around so that the lead would be female.
>>149368520I didn't know that. Hilarious how Wade's family (the white stand ins) are a little ignorant and insensitive, but are ultimately supportive and mean well. Ember's family is just ignorant, and the opposite of supportive.
The blatant racial allegory turned me off, yeah.
>>149367824 (OP)People thought the trailers looked bad. Everyone was expecting it to suck and flop. The marketing for Clod the “rizz” boy was the final nail in the coffin. Then the film came out and most people liked it. It was on its way to becoming Pixar’s biggest failure, but it ultimately avoided being a box office disaster ala Lightyear.
>worldbuilding says that the waters were the first to colonize the land
>they call it element city
How does that even make sense? If they colonized it first, they would name it after their homeland or something, like New Wave City or some shit. Why would they just decide to call it Element City? Did they know it was going to be a multicultural hub?
>>149367824 (OP)It's nothing new. It's just, Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, but Disneyfied. It's mich more shlocky than other rehashes or remakes of the same plot but the marketing was so over the place it made a lot of people ignore it overall.
>>149367824 (OP)No one HATED Elemental. They just held no strong feelings toward it, which is arguably worse.
>>149367824 (OP)It's an alright film.to watch at home. My kids like it. But I really couldnt see myself sitting in a theater and watching it. Its just way to boring. Like an even more mundane Ghibli movie without the sense of wimsy. Im sure this film really spoke to immigrants and blacks though. Im neither so I didn't really get to appreciate it. Idk why Pixar makes movies for such small demographics. Probably why this film flopped.
>>149370907Your first mistake was trying to make sense of this world at all. It's very much coolness over reason first.
Crazy that we're at a point where I have more faith in Peter Sohn to deliver a good Incredibles sequel than the Birdman himself.
>>149372748I'm Asian and I thought it was trite and the worldbuilding was surprisingly half-assed for a Pixar work. All of my relatives who watched it in Korea and liked it only did so because they shovel up any "girl-meet-boy" slop and Pixar's label was enough for them to go see a kid's movie they normally wouldn't give the time of day.
>>149367824 (OP)I liked the musical score, 'twas nice
>>149377519If there's one thing Pixar usually gets right, it's the music.
>>149373528You say that about every mom
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I thought it was pretty nice.
>>149376339Maybe if they didn't rip a plotline directly off a comic that got canceled halfway through it would have been better.
>>149372710There are people who loved it though. The reception isn’t perfectly middling
I liked it, had nothing negative to say about it.
Also can't say I've though about it once since I saw it.
>>149367824 (OP)I just heard about disney trying to turn that gay little earthling into a meme and that immediately made the entire movie soulless for me
>>149367824 (OP)More than hating, nobody watched it
>watched it when it came to streaming
>feel nothing
>firegirl is cute, though
Not terrible for modern Pixar, but not cinema-worthy, either.
