>one of the few last interesting internet animators sells out

wha happen?

After a decade+ of autistically only drawing one thing, I never imagined he'd give it up for views/patreon money.

>>149368467 (OP)
Mares win once again

>>149368579
he only makes pony shit now

>>149368579
He stopped making slop for retards and finally made kino animations instead, naturally the retards are upset because they want more trash

This is canon until proven otherwise

Holy soul. Maybe you faggots should've tried a bit harder and supported him better. Ponyfags are more supportive, produce significantly more fanart that isn't coomerslop, actually financially supports him more and are less demanding and dictating of his actions.
Basically you guys should've been better fans. 5 dollars a month is literally nothing nowadays for a guy you enjoy who constant puts episode/films out

He will RETVRN, you fool

His last SU episodes before he went full pony were boring as hell though.

>>149368467 (OP)
Truly someone only sonicfags and their legendary autism would enjoy

>>149368467 (OP)
This thread is just another eternal reminder why horsefuckers get banned and quarantined on every space of the internet. God bless Bartleby.

>>149370095
PonyGODS won

>>149368467 (OP)
>>149370095
you're telling me that's NOT coco bandicoot ytp?

I know how to make SU great again

>>149370275
yawn

>>149370275
That's not Bartleby mega-farting on Rainbow Dash.

>99% of SU fanart is coomerslop
>Good chunk of MLP tamers isn't even coomerslop burt genuine fan art
hmm interesting

>>149369322
>Exactly one Sonic thing as a cameo
>Immediately went back to ponies
>Nothing but ponies on the timeline
Unless he somehow fucks up the gravy train, he won't be back.

https://www.tamersarchive.com/pfp-collab
Any of you guys gonna make something for this?

>>149370407
i have high hopes that it'll build up to a tournament of power arc (since Bartleby supposedly knows who Goku is)

Wonder what the fourth universe could be, but there's no point in speculating, it'll probably be completely out of left-field

>>149368467 (OP)
Something something don't be sad it's over, smile because it happened.

>>149371475
don't do the "something something" bit and then fully say the thing you're something something-ing

he's doing the "one character remembers erased timeline, one character doesn't remember" plot again in the new series
similar to a standup comedian refining his set, this plot point will be better in the new series

>>149368684
remember when sonic looked at the camera and said "I still love sonic underground, but you can get board after drawing the same thing over and over"

>>149371719
you're right, sorry. We can still take solace on the threads we had back in the day.

>>149370360
Nice try lil bro(ny), but we all remember how deplorable you fags were about jacking off to a little girl's cartoon that you created a new subgenre of beastality porn.

>>149371902

>>149371902
Were?

>>149371935
You're right, *are. I already saw horse porn edits of tamers ponys on /mlp/.

>>149368467 (OP)
Your seething is genuinely pathetic. I hope you know that.

>>149371902
Shitting your pants in rage over the horse show in 2025, gives me so much joy.

>>149368467 (OP)
>>149369051
>>149369304
>>149370095
most subtle false-flag

>>149372615
>tamers fan
>watching someone shit their pants brings them joy
checks out

>>149371902
Bro shut tf up lol don't you goon off to Aleena, Flora and Mindy, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house

bitch, what the fuck do you mean Tamers12345 sold out?
heh you just don't get it at all.

>>149372549
is it AI generated or just a fucked up filter?

>>149374135
not sure, but knowing tamers he probably did it by hand

>>149368467 (OP)
Selling out is just the natural conclusion for all artists.

>>149373151
>don't you goon off to Aleena, Flora and Mindy
No I'm not carlos you retarded zoomer.
>mindy
Tamers newfag doesn't understand Mindy is portrayed as an repulsive disgusting slut that nobody likes.

>>149368467 (OP)
>interesting
Pic unrelated?

>>149376510
Ive heard tamers content called a lot of things but this is the first I've heard it called uninteresting

>>149369237
Blaze, you harlot.

>>149368467 (OP)
You people are so funny "I'm so angry that Tamers is making autistic animations about gay Ponies, he should be making gay animations about Sonic The Hedgehog!" Do you guys even hear yourselves?

>>149377057
you wouldn't get it

>>149368467 (OP)
I wonder if the WW3 reception broke something in him

>>149368467 (OP)
nipples

>>149370275
milk.

>>149377246
It was actually that one Bartleby avatarfag fag that doxxed him for doing anything MLP here during the first MLP crossover that changed his mind, bitch.

>>149369237
Consorting with game characters is an unforgivable sin. If she fucked Tails it's well and truly over.

>>149377246
I never called WW3 shit, it was perfectly fine. I have been calling all his pony slop movies shit though. I enjoy Peter Pan more than all his pony works. Why doesn’t he take that criticism?

>>149377057
Gay Sonic was funny. Gay ponies means unfunny monologues and drama.

Let the man make some money off bronies for a bit.

>>149368684
If you have the power to make a hundred k a year doing the same youtube poops you've been doing why would you keep doing it for free to keep the 'respect' of a bunch of broke loser neets who won't/don't want to pay you anyway?

Even when the pony shit is over the damage that has been caused by it will never be repaired. Tamers’s mask has slipped too much, we now know that he isn’t actually genuine and is just doing animation for money and gifts. The illusion that he’s just some based retard that is super obsessed with a mostly forgotten Sonic cartoon from the late 90’s has entirely been crushed. He’s just a mildly edgy brony animator, which is just the same as Hotdiggedydemon’s .MOV series.

honestly I just see it as getting a regular job, but with a bit more freedom, where you can make it somewhat how you want to, but there are still restrictions

I would always choose horsefuckers over sonicfags any day.

>tamers makes SU shit for a decade, his fans always give him jack shit in return
>tamers starts making MLP videos, his new fans shower him with more appreciation and money than he's ever gotten before

>>149380678
Hey, we're a small niche but we still loved him, just because there were like only 160 paid patrons, it doesn't mean that he had no love

>>149379827
TRVTHICVS NVKEICVS

>>149379827
>>149380826
samefag kiwifag

>>149379827
>Mildly edgy
I think that's kinda what cemented the pony shit as boring and mediocre. Outside of the black one getting called a few slurs, there's nothing that reaches the sheer insanity of what the SU crew did to each other.

>>149380993
That's because Tamers doesn't actually like pony. If he did, his MLP stuff would actually be on par with his SU stuff. He just keeps going with it because it's lucrative. I can't really even blame him for that, I'd do the same thing
>B-b-buh that's selling out!
The only artists who don't "sell out" are the ones not making anything that anyone wants to pay for

>>149381055
how is it not on par?

>>149381103
It's boring and melodramatic to milk shekels out of the gay pony fans

>>149381158
It's not boring, and what's wrong with melodrama?

>>149381281
On that note, I do wish the Mary/Glimmer parts were funnier, and that the stallions could get some SoL episodes to themselves

>>149379721
>For free
Are ponyfags really this delusional

>>149379569
dude come on the ones without the unfunny yaoi/yuri faggotry are pretty good, like Lemonade Stand and Hotel Detox

>>149381281
It gets VERY old and it's very unfunny. Especially once your smile starts to fade and you slowly realize that it's being done unironically. I just hope Tamers is doing it because he wants to, and not to please this new, blindly positive, content-starved fandom.

>>149381281
Boring. Every fucking piece of media on this earth has melodrama plot shit, and there's nothing special about tamers that his brand of "serious" stands out. He excels in slice of life, it's just so good. I understand why he's bored of doing it, but that doesn't change the fact that his movies are just... meh.

>>149382789
What's worse is that he leans on anime cliches because it feels like he still has one foot in the comedy side of things, so it just comes off as generic. Admittedly some of the choreography for his fight scenes are cool.

>>149372549
this is cute

>Realize Tamers might actually be gay and just making gay jokes
>Suddenly all the domestic abuse jokes make sense

>>149368467 (OP)
I can't believe bronies still exist in 2025 long after the show ended and even longer after anyone stopped caring about the show

>>149384042
porn will keep a fandom going long, long after its relevance peters out. Look at My Life as a Teenage Robot, Ben 10 (original series), Foster's Home for Imaginary friends, etc.

>>149379827
>he isn’t actually genuine
Look at his total output
He is making like 3 minutes of animation per day recently
You are telling me that drawing ponies for 16 hours a day is proof he ISNT an obsessive autist?

I think he's too afraid of his channel getting taken down again to be too-too edgy

>>149384412
His last videos had actual rape scenes (not in the funny way) so it ain't that

>>149384681
the last time he used the word "rape" he had to take down and reupload the episode without it

>>149385015
Still had the actual act of rape.

>>149384681
Anon, rape is always funny

>>149384681
>Not in the funny way
I miss when he had rape and it was funny

>>149384412
The fuck you're talking about. On the contrary watching the insane nasty shit he's uploading in broad daylight on youtube right after his bank and doubling down using an IP that's meant for little girls I wonder why the channel isn't getting a second strike. Even with age restriction active. He's mental. And I love it.
I wish Bartleby was part of the MLP stuff, or that he made more multiverse shit so we can have more of Bartleby and his bitch.

>>149368467 (OP)
I thought this was a poorly drawn image of Alex from street fighter

>>149380993
I really wish the Pony stuff had the absurd crossovers more often. Just sticking with mostly official MLP characters in them only just makes them more dull to watch.

I was really hoping that if he really wanted to commit to the horses only bit, he would have included characters from other equine shows like Horseland or Centaurworld, but I doubt we're getting any of that at this point.

Sometimes I'm on the verge of asking why the side butts and all the fart and shit jokes but if I get a proper answer it'll take away the mystery and magic of tamers videos.

>>149385750
It's because Tamers, like all gay men, is a coprophiliac

I just miss the soothing voice of Bartleby and his bitch, his new stuff doesn't have anything similar. Also is it just me or does his new stuff has more lore connection while SU is more self-contained per Video?

>>149370275
fatter

>>149386794

>>149387216
Ruined. Fatfags always have to take things too far.

>>149387265
idk what else you were expecting

>>149387216
Not big enough

Flora the rock

>>149370659
Just did, made a template for it too so you can fuck around with it in Photoshop or Photopea.
Ominous 8TB dolphin porn and PSD link below
https://limewire.
com/d/AnrDZ#c84Lo7H9Hl

>>149380993
I also think that the juxtaposition of Sonic Underground's cozy lower-middle-class suburbia setting and aesthetic and the sheer batshit insanity of what happened just made it funnier. the new series' setting is ironically less interesting specifically because it's more fantastical.

I love the /mlp/ stuff. He continues to make more because his new fanbase actually care about him and the stuff he creates. From creating significantly more fan art (Mostly normal but some coomerslop), supporting him financially much more (In a trying economic time), Discussing the episodes much more deeply and being ws less demanding.
I mean look at the faggots in this thread demanding what he should do, despite havng a decade of content. Most of you faggots didn't even bother subscribing to his Patreon

>>149389760

Man, watching this shit going down as an outsider is hilarious. But I feel for you guys. have a fallen idol is never easy.

>>149389699
Nah. It's because there's less sideway butts. Fact.

>>149389699
>cozy lower-middle-class suburbia setting
Yeah that was a big part of the soul of SU. Almost makes me want to move to the Midwest.

Uncle Chuck being a Wild Manes enjoyer was a surprise, but a welcome one

>>149389760
Post your Patreon subscription receipt to Tamers12345 for the month of July 2025.

SU was funny, but the formula was getting stale and you can tell Tamers was phoning it in ever since WW3. If it wasn't ponies he'd insert more and more melodrama and fanservice into SU, you can see he was even starting to do so with Flora and shit. Be lucky he has MLP to do that stuff with, so SU can remain his wacky South Park esque series.

>>149390776
I picked the 5 pound option since i'm between jobs rn. Once I get secure im gonna go to the next one

>>149368467 (OP)
It peaked with the school field trip episode, i lose my shit everytime the music starts playing st the end

>>149391723
>TommieMC

>>149391759
Tis OGRE

>>149391759
It may be over and I may be retarded. But I am rdy to go down as a fan of tamers.

>>149391809
Don't worry about it, TommieMC. Here's mine. Bitches can't and won't do shit to Tamers fans, we're too powerful.

>>149391716
>Tamers was phoning it in ever since WW3
No he wasn’t. Dr Robotnik’s had ENOUGH, the school bus episode, and the Goodwill video are arguably some of the greatest videos he ever made.

I notice this is a trend from the pony part of his fanbase. You drag all of pre-MLP Tamers through the mud. You greatly exaggerate the flaws of some of the mediocre at worst episodes like WW3 to prop up the shitty pony movies. You aren’t real fans of his, you only care about your chosen pony ship getting content. The second Tamers stops making content of your waifu or husbando you will abandon him.

>>149392592
SU is good, MLP is also good. What now, bitch?

>>149385182
The adult content in MLP is just gooner shit. That’s not edgy, that’s just horny.
SU has Bartleby doing a mass shooting, Sonia and Robotnik having Nazi iconography in their rooms, and calling Ben Hurst a dead bitch who deserves to rot in hell for not liking writing for Sonic Underground. Nothing he did in MLP even comes close to the shit he did in SU.

>>149392592
Do you not see the irony in your post, that you criticise the fans of the /mlp/ stuff for not being fans of the SU stuff. While you describe it as "shitty pony movies"

>>149392766
I like some of his MLP stuff. The bowling episode or RD’s birthday bash are classic Tamers. The movies are indeed shitty and where he loses me. They’re long, humorless, and boring.

>>149389901
I think part of the fuss is because pony newfags will constantly chide SU fans for not supporting Tamers enough, as if there weren't maybe a few hundred diehard SU Tamers fans at most compared to thousands of pony ones.
Tamers has gained about 4.5x as many paid patreon members as he had before he started doing MLP, but does anyone really think the brony fandom, even all this time later, is only 5x bigger than the Sonic Underground fandom? Of course not. SU fans were putting out WAY more support than any fandom their size ever could reasonably be expected to, because they were Tamers fans first and SU ones second, but horsefuckers constantly come to the thread (or complain in theirs) about SU fags like:
>Well that's what you get for not being popular enough, you deserve to be replaced
As if that's not what killed the sequel generation of their show prematurely and has left them with no ongoing media for the next year.

>>149392904
>I think part of the fuss is because pony newfags will constantly chide SU fans for not supporting Tamers enough
Don't act like you don't chide us by saying our shit is trash and should be dropped so he can focus solely on SU stuff. Plus it's mostly us having fun and ofc those stoking the flames
>Of course not. SU fans were putting out WAY more support than any fandom their size ever could reasonably be expected to, because they were Tamers fans first and SU ones second, but horsefuckers constantly come to the thread (or complain in theirs) about SU fags like:
that is the biggest crock of shite, i've heard yet. Most of the consistent artists (There was like 5 at most lmao) mainly made waifu/coomerslop. Not saying it isn't prevalent in the MLP stuff but the most "popular" artists mostly focused on coomer art of the main 3 simped girls (Flora, Aleena, Sonia) with a lesser extent Mindee
>As if that's not what killed the sequel generation of their show prematurely and has left them with no ongoing media for the next year.
G5 was god-awful and a soulless cash grab, with the characters raging from at best slightly entertaining and at worst annoying compared to the G4 cast.

>>149391723
Okay, so you aren't just another false flagger trying to stir more shit into these threads. Alright, props on ya. I'll give you a proper argument.

Your whole post still reads like someone who's looked at his SU fanbase at surface level and is trying to spread some retarded notion that said audience never gave an actual fuck about him.

>SU fans never give him that much fanart
The archive exists and is readily available. This was never remotely true.
>SU fans never supported him financially.
We're a small niche and can only provide so much. 160 patreon members wasn't a lot compared to what he has now, but it was relative to the size of his audience at the time.
>MLP fans discuss their episodes with more nuance
>The series that's actually trying to be more plot-driven in nature has more depth discussion than the series that is primarily a SOL series primarily focuses on gags.
What a shocker. Also, don't talk about being demanding as if there aren't a couple of retards complaining about gay stallions or an episode not being SOL in the /mlp/ threads recently. Neither side is totally innocent in that regard.

Not saying there isn't a bunch of whiny faggots within the SU fanbase like >>149379827, but this belief that we all only leeched off of Tamers is some of the most disingenuous shit I've seen in a while and I'm getting tired of people trying to spread all over the place. I've even seen a couple of people try to claim that the dox that was placed on him was a collective effort by a bunch of SU fans. What a fucking insult.

>>149393678
I'll be honest with you sis I like stirring up arguments. Arguing with ppl is fuuny. But I would wish he'd mix it up a bit between SU and MLP stuff. I think there is something for everyone that he can make. Even if both parties aren't getting what they want to see every fortnight.

I still believe.

>>149393775
So, you really were falseflagging after all. Quite the cunty move, but I can't deny that was clever tactic to get me.

>But I would wish he'd mix it up a bit between SU and MLP stuff.
Even as someone who prefers SU over MLP, I'd actually be happier if he completely ditched the former for the latter if he was completely upfront about it. That's really my big issue here. After 9 months of extremely vague notions about the state of SU, some transparency would be nice, y'know?

>>149394263
I'm only playing with ya. Falseflagging is bad when its done on a negative purpose. Like flinging insults I feel. I feel like tamers is stuck between a rcok and a hard (cock) place here.
With two communities with varying fanbases and not always overlapping communites.
While the MLP brings more eyes and more money while his SU fanbase is much older. I feel the best is either cycling between SoL and more dramatic films/episodes. Or maybe like developing a protoge I feel to continue on where he left off. The main problem would be replicating his style in comedy. But idk maybe one day AI will be capable of that. So all that is required is an artist.
>Quite the cunty move
Hopefully the cunty gurlboss type

We used to be so obsessed with gatekeeping Tamers' Sonic Underground, but it turns out that Tamers became the ultimate gatekeeper by not making anymore...

>>149368467 (OP)
i still enjoy the ponyshit well enough, but it doesn't strike near the higher highs that SU had, and the lows are much worse

>>149380678
>WE THROW MORE MONEY AT HIM SO WE'RE MORE DESERVING
reinforcing tamers being pony's whore, good for you if that's how you appreciate his work but i can't say's his pony shit has ever pass the bare minimum level of a SU episode in writing ever.

>>149368467 (OP)
have you seen the episodes lately? is full on melodrama with no jokes

>>149394813
I think some of the writing in the pony episodes has been dogshit but I'm not against it, I would rather he just mix or alternate between the two.

>>149393392
>Don't act like you don't chide us by saying our shit is trash and should be dropped so he can focus solely on SU stuff. Plus it's mostly us having fun and ofc those stoking the flames
AKA "We do the same thing but it doesn't count!"
>that is the biggest crock of shite, i've heard yet. Most of the consistent artists (There was like 5 at most lmao) mainly made waifu/coomerslop. Not saying it isn't prevalent in the MLP stuff but the most "popular" artists mostly focused on coomer art of the main 3 simped girls (Flora, Aleena, Sonia) with a lesser extent Mindee
A lot of SU fans aren't artists, with the exception of people like RickSteubens you had fanartists that were novices. Ponyfags have had fans that started learning how to draw to do pony art 15 years ago, of course it was easier for an existing fanbase with THOUSANDS of artists that have been drawing for more than 5 years to churn out fanart.
>G5 was god-awful and a soulless cash grab, with the characters raging from at best slightly entertaining and at worst annoying compared to the G4 cast.
I could say the same for G12345 (Tamers content)

>>149394492
Tamers' style is really hard for people to replicate from my experience. One might think it'd be piss easy since on surface, it's just MS Paint drawings with poop and fart jokes everywhere, but everyone I've seen try to do Tamers' style falls flat one way or another, and if human beings can't do it, AI definitely couldn't. Really makes the divide harsher.

>>149382436
This, I actually hate his nu-mlp episodes. My brain shuts off every time its a gay stallion or drama episode. Doesn't matter if there's some funny bits in it, the whole episode gets dragged down. I miss the time when drama made up only <10% of screen time, not >50%.

>>149392694
Most of the pony movies are awful dogshit

>>149395028
The hotel one was funny and the first half of the fart portal movie was very tamers-kino (and not just because it was SU)

>>149382485
>>149382789
This, it really feels like he's being forced to do drama these days because that's what the brainrot patreon supporters want. The execution was way better when videos were filled with unserious funny content then surprises you with a serious scene, it makes for a better impact.

>>149382823
No doubt his fights has greatly improved, unfortunately the straight play story/drama with characters I don't care/hate makes them forgettable for me. I still prefer his early mlp videos fights like the Flawless movie since it's not so "artistically overdone".

Am I the only person who actually liked WW3?

>>149368467 (OP)
mans gotta eat

>>149395743
>ponyfags acts like that when an episode doesn't have their fuckas dogshit oc
no wonder he's no making SU episode, these niggas would jump his ass if he didn't

>>149395830
>SUfans threaten to dox him if he doesn't go back to making SU
>MLPfans threaten to kill themselves if he decides to drop pony
There is no winning

>>149395743
unverifiable "evidence" from kiwifarms

>>149396101
>SUfans threaten to dox him if he doesn't go back to making SU
the only doxxer are basedteens, nice try nigger

>>149395743
>these are the creatures tamers is kowtowing to

>>149395743
Someone post that catbox where derpy explains the current problem with tamers.

>>149396175
Sharty doxxed him but you guys did it first

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/143595099/#143596946

>>149396270
WTF???? SUFAGS EXPLAIN YOURSELVES RIGHT FUCKING NOW
t. MLPGOD

>>149395743
>she
>her
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. as if there's a shadow of a doubt that they are a loonytroon.

>>149396270
>>149396289
>samefagging + falseflagg thread
nigga... i was there

>>149396270
zamn what a proof

>>149396303
Explain yourselves SU faggots right fucking now

>>149396344
you're really slow at editing

>>149396136
too bad you can't use the flag here

>>149396376
I'm genuinely not. mHand on heart.

>>149396270
>Not an official address whatsoever, just the area's name.
Oh wow, so shocking.

>>149396406
Read the rest of the thread, retard

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/143595099#143602749

>>149394108
my faith is waning, these new episodes are too emo and gay
but it was pretty funny when he brought back SU just to make fun of the fact that they're not popular enough

>>149396427
>a sole nigger that schizo'd out, could be a shartyfag falseflagging

keep the proof coming buddy, sure isn't some troony from the sharty :)

>>149394528
I hate you falseflagging poniggers

>>149396498
Remember that Tamers thinks you /co/fags are whiny bitches, as he stated in his interview with Purp.

You are not convincing anyone but yourselves of anything.

>>149396534
Sorry but nobody has out whined the literal suicidal teen whores who threaten to kill themselves every time their favorite OC doesn't show up. Like, you just can't live that down when it comes to whining.

i miss chuck/mark

>>149396534
>poniggers tries to act like he's not on the side of the one pissing themselves at the though of an episode not being about pony for once
okay buddy

>>149396577
Your only proof of this is from a kiwitard, who says he was given those screncaps anonymous(convenient) and that said source wishes to remain anonymous(also very convenient).

All you fags have is fake Discord screenshots, a literal /v/ and sharty shitpost tactic. But unlike /v/ and the sharty you fags are trying to use said fake Discord screenshot unironically.

>>149396611
they're not subtle about it

>>149396625
>>149396625
>Your only proof of this-
And your only proof is an unverifiable 4chan thread. In fact I'd say that's not proof at all. You tried man, but everyone on the internet knows bronies are unhinged as fuck.

Before hand yes there were 'serious' episodes, and just before Marionette's debut was Apple Bottom and Care Package- who were fucking annoying in thier own right, and maybe the 'HH-ification' of Tamers truly begins with them, but one cannot deny that Marionette took the lead with having her debut be less focused on jokes and absurdity and more on a 'down-to-earth' tragedy, something that is wholly incompatiable with Tamers' worlds and his style.

TLDR: Marionette in any other setting would probably be fine, but she isn't. And thats the problem. If Marionette was as brazenly sexist as Uncle Chuck, we probably wouldn't have as many problems with her, but she isn't. If Marionette was in a different show more focused on drama like a proper soap opera or anywhere that isn't MLP Tamers, she'd be fine. And it's from Marionette we get the start of 'Nu-Tamers'. A show that's dipped in quality that has broken the proverbial red curtain for many, a show that focuses not on making people laugh but on shipfaggotry, a show that seems to revel in cringe but with all the tact and grace of previous works seemingly sapped out. Marionette isn't a character, she's an embodiment of nearly everything wrong with Tamers work now, perhaps only seconded by Apple Bottom and Care Package.

>>149396625
oh you wish these discord where fake

>>149396662
You kiwifags are losing the plot.

Marionette is one of the worst characters to've ever been put to paper and I'll explain as best as I can. Marionette's introduction first of all does not paint a good picture. Starting us off on lecture about 'sexism' and some sort of 'stallion privilege', something completely lopsided to Tamers' world(s) that was never established anytime before. This isn't to say women couldn't take on a more aggressive or front-and-center role, but Marionette makes little sense from Tamers or MLP's point of view. In MLP we follow the exploits of majority female characters, the rulers of many important nations are female, I cannot say how 'pony society' is structured in MLP because I've never watched it beyond what colleagues blab about, but frankly it doesn't appear to be a patriarchal society hidden in the wings of Canterlot. Meanwhile in Tamers' MLP we don't see the pro-male sexism present in Tamers SU property, if anything we see it balanced between the sexes if not slightly more 'matriarchal' given Celestia's homophobia which seems to lessen in the face of lesbian couples she likes. Marionette quickly establishes herself as a mouthpiece for an ideology that does not belong in Tamers' work.

Marionette also resets the tone forever from her presence. Again, this isn't to say Tamers MLP didn't do 'serious' before, but as said; "the parts we were asked to take seriously weren't overdone at the time." Marionette sets the scene for a new more 'dark' and 'serious' MLP that isn't possible (without becoming infinitely cringe) and shouldn't happen in the first place. Back to her debut episode, the last 20 minutes or so is literally nothing but a serious episode whinging about her sad upbringing and now she's 'finally' found a family or some shit.

>>149396664
i saw that, bitch

In the next episode we see her, which is the SU-MLP crossover, she once again comes out full force with 'my tragic sad life' and it eats away at the episode like whatever cancer she's implied to have. Frankly if this were a different show, a different author, a different topic, I would probably care about Marionette struggling to find herself and trying so hard to not be a literal puppet. But that's the problem, this is Tamers MLP, written by a guy who does not do serious drama well, Marionette thankfully tones down the annoying sexism, but it seems to just spread to other characters like Glimmer. Again, we can appreciate a character who's horribly sexist, like Uncle Chuck and Mindy's dad because the sexism they have is hilarious. Uncle Chuck and Mindy's dad don't halfway lecture the audience; they turn up their actions to 11. Despite this being the second episode we watch with Marionette in it, it seems like her character has already encompassed Glimmer, making any discussion of Marionette require talking about Glimmer. Glimmer would require another essay, so on we go.

TPD
https://files.catbox.moe/ou3e9p.mp4

The most recent episode meanwhile tries to paint Marionette as a caring and thoughtful 'parent'? The relationship dynamics of how Marionette, Glimmer, Twilight, Flawless, and Trixie are never actually explained thoroughly and frankly I wouldn't care in the slightest, but Marionette is presented as someone who cares about Flawless. And hey the annoying no-jokes sexism is back with Glimmer and Marionette. Yay. She's boring, brings nothing to the table, and seems to exist solely to get people's attention. She's there because people see the burned pony and go 'OMG MAI WAIFU, TANK YEW TAMERZ!!1!' Despite everything she protests against about 'getting dick-havers hard' she exists to get dick-havers hard. Notably in both episodes previously she doesn't play as big a role as her debut episode, where she ate up half the run-time with her presence, but this could also be due to the fact we're having to juggle 5 or so protagonists at once. But it's about what Marionette 'releases' that I want to tackle for a bit more on this long-winded journey.

>>149396685
Sorry dude, but you never even had a plot. I know you have a victim complex over permanently being a tamers secondary, but you gotta stop. Go watch some SU, because clearly you need it. For the record I don't hate his MLP but the fans are horrible.

After Marionette's episode we get two very infamous episodes- even without her presence. Arenos's debut episode and the Infection movie. More heavy-handed drama, more attention-grabbing of 'LOOK THESE ARE YOU WAIFUS/FAVS, DON'T YOU LIKE YOUR WAIFUS/FAVS? LOOK AT THEM!' with sexually charged shots, with attention on their boring relationships, on their 'tragic backstories' I don't give a shit about, and I assume many of us don't either. The famed 'Hazbin-Hotel-ification' of Tamers begins with Marionette's introduction. Before hand yes there were 'serious' episodes, and just before Marionette's debut was Apple Bottom and Care Package- who were fucking annoying in thier own right, and maybe the 'HH-ification' of Tamers truly begins with them, but one cannot deny that Marionette took the lead with having her debut be less focused on jokes and absurdity and more on a 'down-to-earth' tragedy, something that is wholly incompatiable with Tamers' worlds and his style.

TLDR: Marionette in any other setting would probably be fine, but she isn't. And thats the problem. If Marionette was as brazenly sexist as Uncle Chuck, we probably wouldn't have as many problems with her, but she isn't. If Marionette was in a different show more focused on drama like a proper soap opera or anywhere that isn't MLP Tamers, she'd be fine. And it's from Marionette we get the start of 'Nu-Tamers'. A show that's dipped in quality that has broken the proverbial red curtain for many, a show that focuses not on making people laugh but on shipfaggotry, a show that seems to revel in cringe but with all the tact and grace of previous works seemingly sapped out. Marionette isn't a character, she's an embodiment of nearly everything wrong with Tamers work now, perhaps only seconded by Apple Bottom and Care Package.

>>149396625
go back to your containment thread

https://youtu.be/_PVDf5NQefA?si=EGg1F_3n-d8Znpew&t=1500

LOOOOOOOLLLLL TAMERS HATES YOU FAGS

>>149396498
The Sharty only got involved in July of 2024

>>149396739
oh great, the fandom is imploding

>>149396788
i remember tamers sharty thread being much older, but the pony shit did put them on turbo mode

>>149396763
that's a lot of text to just say that sonic underground is superior

>>149396788
>secondary knows nothing
Shocking. Carlos has been seething and reporting tamers videos as far back as the flora bakery episode. He's been trying to get the sharty on him forever, and succeeded with the third strike last december. The first one was the sleepover video I believe, long before 2024.

>>149396771
if he hate us for the whining from SU, DEAR lord he's not prepared for what the mlp fandom has in their sleeves if they feel slighted for the most inane shit

>>149396841
Because it is.

>>149380678
After tamers12345 I'm convinced I have a genuine curse. Everytime I actually start to donate money to a creator, they either slow down to almost stop entirely or complete change their content.

>>149397037
the midas touch but as mid-ass and it make everything mid and ass

>>149396739
damn derpy I knew you were el basado but I didn't realize you were hiding such a huge power level

>>149396933
nice chuck

>>149396678
You can literally join that discord and see the messages yourself the stupid symphony faggot has links to it on their twitter. You really wish these were fake. Pick any message in particular and I'll screenshot it in that server right now. That stupid tranny is insane.

>>149397037
I have the same curse. HunterXHunter also stopped updating as soon as I caught up, and Homestuck took a hard swerve into shipville once I got into it. There are others but I've genuinely lost count.

>>149397116
nigga that's what i was saying... they wish those screens where fake nigga.

>>149397144
I know I replied to the wrong post. Sigh...

>>149396293
first thought that popped into my head lmao

>>149397158
np nigga

>>149397116
Where's the link?

>>149396223
https://files.catbox.moe/xp6vt0.mp4

>>149397188
Check their history dumb nigga

>>149397188
I used to be in it but I must've gotten kicked out for some odd reason, maybe because I was inactive. But yeah, I can vouch that they actually said this shit. Nigga could use some mental help.

>>149397300
This was a trap, I actually did check their history and the only link they have doesn't work. It's expired... how utterly convenient that no one else can check this discord and has to take a kiwifags word as gospel.

>>149397337
>feb 25th invite expired
>people got in when it wasn't
imagine my surprise

>>149397359
>guise this person is saying this on their discord their discord link is plastered all over their profile you can check it yourself I'll go in there and screncap shit as proof oh wait I get kicked darn oh wait the only links are expired guess we have to trust some faggot from kiwi who has screencaos provided to him via an anonymous source that wishes to remain anonymous

>>149397337
I was in it but like I said I got kicked out because I was not even active most of the time. But SymphonyDawn would always usually have meltdowns everytime when her server wasn't being active or nobody would want to discuss about her upcoming projects featuring Flawless. They would usually also try to stream what they were playing too on the discord but barely anyone would ever participate lol. But I do know that one of the brony artists that does music that Tamers uses is in that server. Princewhatever I believe.

>>149397337 >>149397400
>how utterly convenient that no one else can check this discord and has to take a kiwifags word as gospel.

Except I said here >>149397116
>Pick any message in particular and I'll screenshot it in that server right now.
That I'm still in there and will gladly prove any of these are real. Again, you really wish this was fake don't you? Go ahead, pick a message.

tbqh tamers always had the option to just tell her to get help or to ignore her even if the situation is true
you can argue back and forth about if it's real or not but the bottom line is it's actually a cope for people who want to believe that tamers didn't want to take the story in the direction he did, it's one of the myriad copes and paragraphs of crying between two websites full of it
i'm pretty sure the suicide threatener in question has done more for genuinely supporting tamers in doing what he likes at this point than the "true old fans" who collectively only got close to making OC when they made one of their rants about gay people talking too much for their tastes into voiceover and then spend all day arguing over the fact tamers isn't making what they like anymore

>>149397457
Post the one where he's blackmailing Tamers, like you guys claim is happening.

And post an invite link here so we can check it out ourselves.

>>149397507
The tranny killed the invite after kiwi posted about them. >>149397507
>Post the one where he's blackmailing Tamers, like you guys claim is happening
Oh no no you don't get to get out of this that easy. You were claiming all of the messages posted in >>149395743
were 100% fake. Nice attempt to move away from that when you're instantly proven wrong.

>>149397563
So they're real, i will admit i was wrong. But The screencaps posted earlier show them hounding Tamers and him saying that he's going his own direction.

So where is Tamers being blackmailed at? What influence do these people have over Tamers. Every fanbase has their weirdos. Tamers SU had Carlos, Tamers MLP has these fucks.

>>149397563
Ponybros....?????????

>>149397642
That's a good point. Why didn't Tamers capitulate to Carlos's demands to add his OC? Carlos has threatened suicide and doxxed him with the help of the Sharty even yet he still hasn't gotten what he wanted. Why would Tamers suddenly cave in to these gooners? He has had death threats sent to him during his deviantart days and was endlessly harassed by modern sonic fans, like that In a Dark Place incident, over wanting to him to add in Shadow or Amy or just because they hate him (pic semi-related) WHY would he cave in all of a sudden? It doesn't add up.

all you fake bardonic fans need to leave the thread NOW

or else.

>>149396739
Trvthnuke. At first I welcomed the mlp content from tamers, but then it has become a mess, to put it lighty, and the mlp threads are complete cancer from the influx of fags.

>>149396763
I'd say the introduction of bottom apple and care package would be the start of "nu-tamers". I absolutely hate them and the most importantly the story writing. But I agree with you with Marionette, the gay stallion drama at least stay in their own bubble, easy skip, but she was when the mare story got "infected" with gay drama. Such an unnecessary character.

>>149397813
Both the SU side and MLP side are insistent that the only reason that Tamers is doing what they don't want him to do is because he's being manipulated, the SU side thinks he's being coerced by an autistic child threatening suicide, and the MLP side thinks that he's being blackmailed by two gay bronies into putting the blackmailer's OCs into the show

>>149396763
We need based derpy to speak these wise words.

>>149398017
I know some people have said that some of his best talents have been put into these MLP vids than SU ones and I can see it but my main problem is why the fuck does keep pushing for more focus on fucking Braeburn/Soarin and Apple Bottom & Care Package? Like who honestly enjoys watching these other than the usual horsefuckers and discord trannies. We get it, they're gay so fucking what and I feel like their stories have already been told, no need to make extra content about love triangle insecurity or duo serial killer couple. I tolerate his SOL ones more than the faggy ones because it feels like watching an actual SU episode. So he has to be getting these ideas somewhere because he's never done any surplus amount of focus for gay couples in SU like Sleet & Dingo or Trevor & Cyrus.

>>149398187
While the serial killer couple complete miss their mark, at least they were new characters with new stories. I have no clue why he keeps bringing the previous love triangle along especially after their movie concluded. Feels like a chore seeing all the characters build up in the background. I'd prefer if he starts killing off characters, for good. Starting with the serial killer couple.

Patreon this, Patreon that. You faggots clearly haven't watched Episode 7 of Sonic Underground.

>>149398187
His new couples feel so much more shallow than his old ones. I think it’s because all their relationships revolve around sex. Despite Underground being very crass sex talk never usually went beyond talking of sucking people’s balls or smacking someone’s ass. Only if the situation was really dire Bartleby would bang Sonic’s fat ass. Even the notorious town slut Mindy only sucked balls and never went further. The couples gay or not would bond with each other by just hanging out. Sleet and Dingo never even kissed but you can tell they truly loved eachother.
I dropped the pony stuff when Tamers’s original channel went down but the gay couples there only have explicit casual sex. There was detailed BDSM lessons. Brayburn’s an abusive piece of shit but he’s good in bed so there’s a love triangle. The new Sonic Underground crossover episode had Twixie having long casual sex at the beginning and in the Hedgehog home. Admittedly I’m not super familiar with the horse episodes but do these gay ponies ever just hang out or go on dates? All they ever seem to do is lust. It’s like what a homophobic person thinks gay people do all day.

Bump for more kiwifag devastation lol

me watching the new episodes

>>149399828
i tapped out after the first gay horse love triangle

>>149396597
>>149396739
>>149397037
Die out

Tamers had to stop doing sonic underground because of a faggot Brazilian kid and the sharty

>>149391939
>>149391723
based life enjoyer

>>149393678
cringe crying stomping basedjak

Please recommend me a
Email provider that doesn't need phone number that works for making Patreon accounts
and a virtual credit card service

>>149396763
This, Death of Trixie was absolute bottom of the dumpster tier, iredeemable shite. Not one (1) singular good moment, and indicative of the general direction the series has gone. People like to blame the gay apples, but they only obnoxiously stick out because of their conspicuous nature, but there were at least attempts at jokes early on. The Marionette ep hit the ground shitting its pants, or rather it didn't, as it was the first real tamers video without his iconic over-the-top toilet humor, that trash is legit written like a bad MLP fanfic, which sadly I guess it is.

>>149397275
>mfw agreeing with all of this

>>149392592
>You aren’t real fans of his, you only care about your chosen pony ship getting content
Yeah. So what? Tamers is my bitch and makes me the content I want. You wait a year for scraps. You know its funny and ironic that you watch a show where little whiny bitches get their asshole kicked back in by strong manly characters who are badass enough to do whatever they want. Then you get the same thing done to you by bronies. Anyway Tamers is our bitch now and he will make what we want, you can go re-watch old episodes and cry in your bed.

>>149400734
i was giddy as a toddler seeing bartleby again

>>149401010
shame he looks like he hasn't improved at all artstyle-wise

>all these whining faggots
Have patience and get under the SU meditation tree with me.

Reminder that the crossover episode was Tamers letting 4chan know that he feels like we betrayed him. He's an old man, he knows the memes of yesteryear. Jackie Chan betraying Bardonic is analogous to 4chan betraying Tamers.

Hate him all you want, you threw the first stone. Talk shit, get hit, bitches.

>>149401375
No, we aren’t trvsting the plan anymore. Underground is dead.

>>149400005
I had a bit more patience than that. I was willing to chalk Soarin and Brayburn up as a rare Tamers miss and he would be back to his usual self later. Then I watched Shattered Harmony and it became clear that hyper serious drama videos with no humor would be the new Tamers and I dropped him. From the sound of this thread it seems I made the right call.

I mean if Infection isn't terrible and there is another SU episode after wouldn't that do pretty well to heal the bad feels?

>>149402126
Infection features the two retarded fags people who aren't also retarded fags frequently cringe at. It's definitely not going to be funny since the trailer paints it as a very straightforward horror episode. And he clearly doesn't want to do any more SU nor would his audience stick around if he produced a string of it. Which is another issue in itself since Tamers has always painted his persona as a guy who loves what he does and would do it even if nobody watched but then sells out immediately the second bronies offer a living wage for softcore porn.

>>149402126
There's no mending fences here. Most of 4chan is very done with Tamers, and Tamers is very done with most of his old audience. He wasn't being ironic when he titled his last Zatch Bell episode "Zatch Bell 2020 Series Is Cancelled Because You Don't Care". He wants to do more, and most of his old audience wanted him to be a one-trick pony (heh!) instead of growing and developing.

>>149402821
The Zatch Bell series was a mediocre store-brand Sonic Underground. I watched them after finishing the last of his SU content and was sorely disappointed

>>149402850
Cool, I'm sure plenty of people felt the same way about Great Cereal Crisis, but look what happened with that.
>great cereal crisis was actually good--
So were the Zatch Bell episodes, you just couldn't handle someone who made Sonic videos suddenly not make Sonic videos because you have the 'tism.
>ad hom--
Yeah, what are you going to do about it, faggot? Bitch some more? Get a new mixtape retard, you've been playing the same shit on repeat.

>>149402871
>So were the Zatch Bell episodes
Not according to Tamers

>>149402871
I was typing an argument to that post but yeah, you just reminded me that Tamers himself openly stated that his Zatch Bell episodes sucked. They were boring and nothing we hadn't seen before from SU, plus he didn't have the excuse of just starting out like he did with Great Cereal Crisis where he was just finding his footing. Only difference now is that he's accidentally found an audience of people motivated by their hard dicks instead of actually liking the humor.

>>149402970
>>149402998
>Not according to Tamers
>Tamers himself openly stated that his Zatch Bell episodes sucked
Right. I'm being aggressive but I'm not mad at you dudes. I'm just really, really tired of people who don't recognize just how bad his SU stuff was right out of the gate. Too many people retroactively elevate his older videos when they're just not good. If Great Cereal Crisis is "good", what's the rating of the basketball episode, or Knuckles' birthday party (the first one)?

Even his miniature horse videos have horrible trip-ups as he tries to figure out what to do with the setting and characters. I'm tired of reading a majority of people say, "Tamers should be free to do what he wants," but then he makes OC donut steels or he makes turbo-faggots and suddenly /mlp/ and /co/ are in full CRUISE CONTROL "NO NOT LIKE THAT" mode.

>>149403051
Bro there's a difference between going in a new direction and shitting in your hands and clapping. As Derpy says above, he's proven he can be funny with MLP in a way that's distinct from SU, but has instead opted to court tumblr homos with generic softcore yaoi/yuri, I'd go on but now I'M saying nothing you haven't heard before. And for the record, I like Knuckle's Birthday but don't remember the Basketball ep too well.

>>149403051
The early episodes are my favorites. His first July 4th episode and haunted house one are some of my favorites.

>>149403114
You may not realize this, but you're just as bad as Carlos was when he had a mental breakdown over Tamers brutalizing and deconstructing Flora in the Suspension episode. Just because things aren't going the way you want them to doesn't mean he's betrayed you. He's doing something different and dangerous: Collaborating with Discord faggots.

To anyone reading this who thinks Tamers "sold out" to the Discord faggot and troon paypiggies: Why aren't you paying him more than they are so he has to make more yuri content? After all, if he only cares about money, then all you have to do is pay him more than them. It's really that simple.
>well I don't have enough--
Then shut the fuck up. Even if bitching is free, shut the fuck up about how he's a sell-out if you're not going to take advantage of his bank-broke(back mountain-sized) ass.

>>149368467 (OP)
I like ponies and I hope he dies in fucking cancer because his 14 year old dickriding fags are insufferable. He also doesn't know shit about ponies or their lore, revealing that he does not actually care about the material as a fan, just sees it as a grift he has to attach to, after losing his channel. He keeps seething about our prophet Lauren Faust(pbuh*)too, how she made it big and he doesn't despite all his desperate attempts to mingle with people in the industry.

His ponies are also fucking ugly and not cute at all, which is absolutely unforgivable. May he step on a lego and get raped to death by feral niggers.

*pony be upon her

>>149403317
>He keeps seething about our prophet Lauren Faust
Why would he seethe about someone he let voice her own character on his show?
This sounds like some "Miyamoto HATES DKC"-level unsubstantiated rumor.

The horsefuckers are laughing at us bros; they think we're butthurt....

Has a single one of you DMed Tamers on Twitter and told him how you feel?
And if you have, did you do it in a calm, polite way, so as to not make him go "man fuck this shit" and either ignore you or block you?

>>149403405
someone in my discord sent him a box of bugs lol

>>149403405
I asked him more bluntly but politely if he was just honestly going to give up on SU and he said he never would. It might have just been him lying though.

>>149403405
>>149403658
You can message Tamers directly but he's not going to be honest because of the private message leaks that a wanna-be horse interviewer made public and violated Tamers' trust in strangers. It's the same reason he closed his PO box after someone >>149403414 kept sending him horrendous things in the mail. Tamers can't trust the audience anymore unless they were in his inner circle before he started circling the wagons. If you're not already inside, you're just not going to be getting in.

webm unrelated

>>149403840
best part of the episode

>>149403317
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>>149403840
My message when I asked him when he was going to give up SU was earlier this year before those leaks I think, but idk, time will tell.

From an extremely autistic artistic dude perspective, I kinda get Tamers point of view on trying to make what makes him more money. But at the same time I really don't approve how he basically turned his back on the fans who have been supporting him for god damn 10 years. Is like I'm missing some context here.

I only create things for the joy of creating, I don't have social media or crap like that, but I can't say I would not be extremely tempted if a bunch of people started waving around bags of cash for me to keep creating the autistic shit I like.

At same time it really doesn't feel like that for him, reading the thread feels like the guy got almost stolen by another fanbase and he has no choice but to keep making the new pony stuff because otherwise shit is going to hit the fan because his new fans are sociopaths that would try to destroy his life if he stopped and his old fans are almost there too, all of that for literal big butt internet cartoon.

What I don't understand is why he decided to erase all his sonic stuff and not make both in parallel? Why the dichotomy here? Why you people need to be enemies to begin with?

I don't care about his stuff but really feels like a problem all of you created together. Tamers for selling out, you guys for the emotional reaction and the ponyfaggots for being such massive faggots and clearly enjoying trash to begin with. From an outside perspective the solution for this problem is so simple. Tamers will be making both at same time, one for the ponies and other for his original fans. He can sell out and keep some of his integrity all the same, and both would still be equally unhappy. But somehow is like he needs to chose who is more worth of his love like he is a kid in a divorce. is pretty wild.

Personally, in this guy position I would find a way of having a fan battle royal, allowing only the most powerful and vicious fanbase be the winner. I don't have fans anyway so whatever.

>>149383913
>Realize Tamers might actually be gay and just making gay jokes
Hasn't this been obvious the whole time?
>Suddenly all the domestic abuse jokes make sense
At least Tamers is honest about how homosexual relationships actually work.

>>149403900
Did he erase it to spite us or because the channel was deleted and he's just not sure of putting it back up? I think a lot of people jump to conclusions and I agree that we also are being the problem and making it harder for SU to come back.

>>149403900
You have very interesting opinions for someone who is totally uninformed about the situation. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain everything to you as succinctly as possible.

1. /co/ turned on Tamers first by doxing him. /co/ threw the first punch. Yes, KF and the sharty have doxed him, but so too did /co/. Tamers has no obligation to his "old fanbase", which was a decentralized confederacy with only KF, /co/, and r/ recognizing him, after so many tried to discover his identity and use that against him.

2. Hating on /mlp/ is board culture because of what bronies did when the show first aired. If you think 'jaks, AI, gacha, and Indians are spammed on 4chan now, then you have no idea how bad the brony cancer was back in the day. That causes deep-seated resentment that still lingers in oldfags (read: newfags) today.

3. /mlp/ is what killed /qa/ after /qa/ targeted /lgbt/ and /soc/. The only reason the sharty (which is what became of /qa/) went after Tamers was because he started making MLP videos, because /mlp/ BTFO their 'jak spam on 4chan. In their mind, Tamers is a major enemy because he's pandering to /mlp/.

4. Tamers arrived just at the right time in the MLP fandom when G5 was floundering and rumors of an abysmal G6 were looming. The fanbase was on its last legs, there wasn't anything to look forward to, and then he showed up. He made Tw*l*ght a un*corn instead of an al*corn. He used Woo*a instead of Lu*a. He knew about magical rainbow sparkledogs and shit. For the MLP fandom, he was a time traveler from the first season of MLP, and that's a breath of fresh air for them. Except /mlp/ hates him because he's NOT from genwun. He's from /co/. He's a Sonic autist. He has a poop fetish. He's a fucking degenerate.

The majority of 4chan and KF where most of his "old fans" gathered hate him. The sharty hates him. r/ doesn't know how to deal with his racist and sexist jokes, so they hate him.

Is it any wonder he likes the MLP fandom?

>>149403941
If is the second is 100% his fault for being so vague and quiet about it. Is probably the second, he could always make a second channel just for SU, just one for mlp, just make a comment calling youtube censorship faggot tier and rallying up even more support for him.

What is really wild to me is how he went as far as to delete his old stuff. That is really not okay. Why not even end the series in a high note and try to start something new? I don't know, you guys emotional reaction is pretty high but I would not say is 100% not justifiable. is more like 70% justifiable if I'm not missing a lot of context here.

You guys always been so cutely passionate about this trash, enjoying so sincerely his output, making silly fan art and just enjoying his stuff for what it was. How someone can be so bastardy against people who enjoyed his stuff for so long I'm not sure. Did any of you tried to go to his house and molest him or something?

>>149403978
He didn't delete his stuff you retarded nigger, the sharty mass-reported his channel which is why it got taken down. Stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about, it makes you look like a faggot or, heaven forbid, a woman.

>>149403974
>>149403992
Okay, thanks for the context. I need to ruminate on it now and come back with more shitty opinions.

Still, all this drama for big butt chubby sonic is pretty funny. It just upset me a bit the idea of a guy bitch slapping his fans like that. I would sometimes see some of the old Su fans go to /ic/ and other boards and ask questions about his new art, or just actually enjoy something so autistic. I thought it was cute, specially because I don't care much about any other board, just /co/. So yeah, I was somewhat upset about him saying all the autistic faggots here to fuck off.

>>149403978
He didn't delete his old stuff, the channel was deleted for community guideline violations and the new channel will probably be taken down too for ban evasion at the least.

>>149403978
Youtube are assholes about that shit and there was plenty of stuff in the old SU episodes they can still report too and/or it would also be ban evasion. I'll give him the benefit of trying to be careful since keeping the channel is his main support.

>>149404014
Since /co/ is anonymous, the entire board is culpable for the mistakes of a single individual. The reason /b/ specifically has the disclaimer, "The works posted here are stories of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact," is because of this generally understood concept. One (1) person on /co/ doxed Tamers, which means the entire board can be considered a threat to him.

Unfortunately narcissistic twats think that Tamers hates them, specifically, when he doesn't know who the fuck each individual person browsing /co/ is. All he knows is that an anonymous person on /co/ doxed him. Since EVERYONE on /co/ is anonymous, EVERYONE on /co/ is culpable. That further means that /co/ attacked him first, which means any perceived "attacks" by Tamers against /co/ are ones of retaliation, not instigation.

Stop being such a bitch and get over yourself. Tamers didn't bitch slap you, he threw a fucking punch after you, "anonymous", slapped him in the back of the head.

>>149403974
This is all true but I don't see why he can't just go back to SU as well, except that the pandering makes him money.

>>149404055
Definitely not me, I can't get past two minutes of this thing. I was thinking more on the fans he has here.

I do care about the anons here, I don't have any real other friends.

>>149404055
>the entire board is culpable for the mistakes of a single individual
While I get what you are saying that is still retarded.

>>149404072
Sonic from the second crossover episode (paraphrased):
"I really do like Season 3 of Jackie Chan Adventures, but watching it 13 times gets a little boring." That's it. He's bored of Sonic Underground.

>>149404082
No, it's retarded to hate all women because you got turned down by one girl in high school. That one girl has an identity that separates her from all other girls.

>>149404082
whats co done to let tamers think we still like him
we dont make fanart
we dont make music
we just complain about gay horses and eat member berries

>>149404092
I feel the Jackie Chan thing is jumping to conclusions, even if it is a dig that he was tired of the formula, it may just be a comment on that and maybe why he wanted to change it up with the tournament of power idea. We won't know until we know if he's truly done or not.

>>149404072
He lived in squalor for decades. Then he tries something new and not only do people give him tons of money for it but they also genuinely love it and let him know. Bronies have been making tons of fan music, art, clothing, plushies, cosplays for him. They have watch party events at cons.

His old fans doxxed him and got his channel fucking deleted. No wonder he's all in on ponies.

>>149404105
We made plenty of SU stuff, but we obviously can't do that for ponies when it's bannable.

>>149404110
Then you're delusional and this discussion is over because you're unwilling or unable to see reason.

>>149404118
What the fuck is stopping you from making Aleena artwork right now? What the fuck is stopping you from making a song using Flora's TTS right now? What the fuck is stopping you from making any fanwork related to Sonic Underground right now?

This is all rhetorical. I don't want you to answer, both because I don't care and because I know you're full of shit and you're looking for excuses as to justify your (read: /co/'s) awful behavior. If you truly loved Sonic Undergound, then you would make works showing that OR you would donate as much as possible to an artist, not just Tamers, to create something related to it. If you truly want to support Tamers, then you wouldn't go into a thread about a dead series just to piss and moan about how he's not making content for you anymore. You would instead be supporting him and be sharing him everywhere so his channel gets bigger.

You seriously need to check your headspace because you're lost in your own dream world.

>>149404112
Still the old SU fans supported him through that squalor to last enough for years. It's not like he got nothing from the SU fans.

>>149404167
>What the fuck is stopping you from making a song using Flora's TTS right now?
SOMEONE really liked that Flora 'Little Person' cover. I do too.

>>149404167
No I've given up on supporting him and dropped my patreon support this month after being on there for years. But I won't just say a throw away gag is proof it's all dead forever. If it is he should just admit he's not going to make SU ever again or not for years.

>>149404112
>His old fans doxxed him and got his channel fucking deleted.
Are dumb faggots still repeating this lie when we know it was sharts?? The complaining about gay horses and melodrama on /mlp/ probably outnumbers the entirety of his "old fanbase."

>>149404310
It's a /mlp/ fag falseflagging hard and then having a giggle about in their thread.

>>149404271
He was banned from Twitter when the threads here made the most art too. Kind of sad we always got punished. The only option will be to make our own Sonic Underground and take it away from him.

>>149404333
why would a guy that made a cover of a song be banned

>>149404340
No I meant Tamers was banned from twitter back then.

>>149369322
I still have faith but won't trust it until I see it, and I'm not watching horse show.

>>149394108
Do you think Tamers has gone glooby?

>>149404491
IT'S TAMERS TIME!!!

>>149403363
>Why would he seethe about someone he let voice her own character on his show?

Because he is stupid. There it is, the mystery has been cracked.

I didn't read all the posts but this is confusing me because I read in the pony board months ago they were upset because tamers was gonna return to sonic videos because the pony ones didn't get enough views.

>>149404975
No? Besides the initial crossover, the Pony stuff was doing better view-wise than SU on average

It was actually because Tamers kept saying that the MLP stuff was only supposed to be a mini series and would return to SU after the first wave was finished (which obviously didn’t end up being the case)

i mean it still hasn't been that long really, doing pony stuff is just smart financially, then he'll be set to animate su for the rest of his career
i still miss his old su stuff with chat tho, pic related

>>149380993
>I think that's kinda what cemented the pony shit as boring and mediocre.
Yeah, I actually consume pastel horses yet I don't find his content for that IP even a fraction as funny or interesting. It's all played way too straight.

>>149368467 (OP)
Oh hey did he finally take up a job offer to make his own Angela Anaconda tier show? Or draw for South Park like I told him to?

>>149403941
>He deleted his old SU videos that means he sold out to ponies!!!
>he wants that Patreon money !!(a whooping $1000, that's 100 times than my gen-alpha lunch money my brown divorced father gives my 12 year old ass >:O )
Ooohhh gen-alpha .... Come here ;)) come here.... come to papa ... come to dada .... come to papa .....
>wraps his genuine leather belt around him with an expertise that would make Harrison Ford blush
WHY YOU LITTLE FUCKIN-
>NO dada!!
*Whipcrack*
>No Vogelsir!!
>*Epic whipcrack SFX*
>AAAHH AHHHH OOWW AHHH OH MY GOSH HECK*God* & *Hell* you fucking 12 year old retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEA4I433Pfo&ab_channel=Lit-UP

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE WHINING ABOUT? YOU CALL THAT MAKING MONEY? YOU CALL THAT SELLING OUT?
>Gen-alpha faggot starts running away
My response: GET OVER HERE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksKhszIVVgI&ab_channel=AdamCWM

YOU CALL THIS SELLING OUT? Oh I got something for you alright:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Br0h1kSa-TU

>But muh Steven Universe tranny fat lgbt jewish female to male tranvestite show :O how dare Tamers betray my impressionable mind like this
*Whips the vape from his mouth*
No emulating smoking
>But it's just like you millenials with your chewing gum shaped like cigarettes
It's nothing like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0xtZTqaKcQ&ab_channel=SolarPOint%E2%9C%8F


What do your parents have to say about (You)?

does this retard really think we're talking about Steven Universe when we say SU?

>>149405938
The same retard gets pissy over people not wanting to edit Tamers’ Pony videos to replace the TTS voices with show-accurate AI ones. Thinking isn’t something he’s capable of.

>>149405938
I have no idea but the schizo is embarrassing.

>>149403185
>To anyone reading this who thinks Tamers "sold out" to the Discord faggot and troon paypiggies: Why aren't you paying him more than they are so he has to make more yuri content?
Yeah I dont think so cunt, Tamers content never had stipulations in the past. He made stuff I liked so I watched it. I'm not going to participate in some auction with faggots, trannies and bronies. This also seems like astroturfing by you alone, but if Tamers were to be as much of a fag as you are and try to create a bidding war between SU and ponies then I hope he enjoys drawing Pinky Pie forever because I'm not giving him a dime more than I did beforehand out of good faith. If anything I'd just stop giving him any money at all. But again, this seems like you trying to set up false equivalency because you need to kill yourself.

>>149404271
>SOMEONE really liked that Flora 'Little Person' cover
post it

>>149406296
The false equivalency was established by detractors who believe that Tamers is only making tiny horse content because of his new income. You’re feeling personally attacked over a discussion that doesn't include you. Be more humble.

>>149406487
You just decided his post meant something different entirely lol

>>149406494
You should also learn to be humble because you’re using one pronoun when there are two subjects. You’re not clever enough to enter this discussion.

>>149406296
i really like that image

>>149406560
me to haha

>>149406816
juicy..

>we never got to see mark grow up from a boy into a red-blooded God-fearing flag-saluting AMERICAN man

>>149406816

Lemme ask the SU niggers since I've already asked the MLP niggers: How many of you guys are coprophiles?
>inb4 it's not a sexual thing they're just funny jokes I swear
Come on, now.

>>149406999
Not me, but I am an eproctophile, and yet these farts don't do anything for me sexually, probably because the only character whose farts I should enjoy has only farted twice, and it's been a shart both times.

>>149406975
only if tamers made more sonic underground origins episodes (theres only two)

>>149407014
Glimmernigger...

>>149401045
How can you improve upon perfection?

>>149407041
That's not me, bitch. I would never say marefarts don't turn me on, ever. Also I won bigly with Glimmy passing gas like a machine gun during the movie and don't ever forget it.

>>149406975
kino..

>>149407041
Ain't that guy also into the poop, alongside the farting? I just said I wasn't into that, plus I don't think a horse character that has farted has only farted two times, but I don't really keep track of them as I am not into them that way
Plus, Glimmer's a girl, no thanks, Cody Banks

>>149406509
>you’re using one pronoun when there are two subjects
Anon, you fucked up.

>i can't remember all the names of the su videos and now they're spread out across a bunch of reuploads on different channels
>no more chat replay for my zoom zoom brain
i hate diggers

>>149407201
https://archive.org/details/tamers12345-sonic-underground
https://www.tamersarchive.com/
Here you go. Everything in one place.

>>149407225
i didn't pay too much attention to this the last time i saw it but after reading more if pic rel is true then i'm going to shit my pants in joy thanks

it's simple, you're either ~《€lassic Tamers》~ fan, or a m*dern tamers fan

>>149406999
Not really a fart guy, but I do enjoy gigantic asses unironically

>>149408152
How do you feel about Tamers' side butts?

>>149408186
Like them too, but for an entirely different reason. They're so fucking goofy looking. Reminds me of Dickbutt from like nearly 2 decades ago.

>>149403051
>I'm just really, really tired of people who don't recognize just how bad his SU stuff was right out of the gate.
I only recently acquired the fortitude to sit through and watch entire SU episodes without cringing, but I thought this stuff was supposed to be bad on purpose?

>>149408460
i miss that big orange retard so much

>>149408760
If nothing else, I’m glad his MLP equivalent got revived.

>>149408485

>>149409033
So his stuff sucks because he's talentless? Got it.

>>149409033
This is why kiwi can't stand Tamer's mlp vids. They can't handle the fact that the man they worshipped as some sort of troll god actually was just a self-aware autistic man, who is very much in touch with his autism even when he's making fun of it or playing it up for laughs.

Tamers' existence goes against everything their site is built around, making fun of autistic people who aren't self aware like Chris Chan and JustinRPG.

>>149408485
The first videos are literally the most raw, authentic ones. Just a teen who has a shitty life and draws/self inserts into his created world for escapism. I don't know what's up with retarded zoomers today and thinking everything is ironic.

>>149405938
>>149406229
>>149406237
*WHIPCRACK*
>AWWWW MY BUTT, MY BUTT, Vogel-sama !!!!

You clearly need a parent, gen-alpha. You are embarrasing and incompetent. You need a parent cause clearly you didn't have one.

>>149409187
Put your name back on, spineless namenigger

>>149409196
*Breaks your spine* put your spine back if you can, underageb&

>>149409223
Like you'd know where to find a spine, wannabe schizo gimmick nigger

>>149409178
I got into tamers because I was a poor midwest faggot well, and the hedgehog family reminded me a lot of my own. Everything he put out felt relatable, and that's part of the reason I don't like the MLP stuff as much. Episodes like the hometown buffet come out though and remind me he's still there, somewhere.

>>149409223
*rapes you*
not so tough now old man?
your geriatric reflexes are fucking pathetic
oh damn, you look like you enjoyed that!

>>149409313
>>149409310
*Rips your spine upwards straight from the coccyx*
*Slaps you with my massive dong*
*Handcuffs you to the boiler*
*Masturbates in front of you and jizzes all over you*
You will never have this white 8inch cock inside of you, brown woman. -_- NEVER.
White cock is for white women. You latinas need to go back to India.

i thought rp was banned

>>149409700
Only cringe RP. This is kino.

>>149369322
I can't wait to see the episode this frame is from. God I miss su

>>149401775
Your funeral.

Anywhere to watch the episodes in order?
i was like 7 episodes behind when his youtube channel got taken down
very annoying

>>149410773
this
>>149407225

>>149410797
cool

>>149397188
I think they disabled invitations for the Flawless Project discord server because some retards joined and started spamming

>>149410022
Sorry /mlp/ won

Reminder that Tamers is holding back his true artistic talent and power because he's a really cool dude and doesn't want to force everyone else out of the industry.

EVERYONE, SHUT THE FUCK UP! WE GOT LONG LOST TAMERS VIDEOS!
https://app.koofr.net/links/44472ace-b0c8-4961-9beb-2de804c01e30?path=%2FTamers%20Videos%2FUNKNOWN%20UPLOAD%20DATES

>>149411783
>video from the fake Tamers12345 channel
yare yare...

>>149368467 (OP)
I prefer the SU stuff but he was pretty obviously getting burnt out on those. The earlier pony stuff was way better than the SU episodes he was putting out right before, so i think it was the right thing for him to focus on that. Its about time to get back to SU though, the pony stuff has been pretty weak lately.

>>149411759
/mlp/ is constantly seething when they aren't getting their yuri waifus, meanwhile I'll be at the premier and beyond when flora returns.

>>149411833
Fake Tamers didn’t start posting until 2016 and the new years video in that link was from 2012 at the very least

Nice a tamers thread, did that one video of sonic underground get taken down originally? The one where manic hugs sonic seductively at their sleepover? I seem to remember it did. Well anyway I saved that original video before it got taken down in case anyone needs it. Pretty sure it got re-uploaded with a different song or something. I could be thinking of another video entirely though but if anyone needs that video let me know so I can catbox it or something.

>>149412877
see
>>149407225

>>149412732
Nah you /co/ fags been seething a lot more than /mlp/ has
t. been in both threads, allegiance to neither

>>149412732
/mlp/:
>stallions are better
>no, mares are better haha
>but I like the stallions
>but I like the mares
>I really really like this one specific stallion
>I really really like this one specific mare
/co/ threads:
>concern trolling
>'farms screenshots
>concern trolling
>20 paragraphs that could be summarized as "the MLP movies aren't focused on comedy"
>dox drama

>>149368467 (OP)
I'm starting to think that a good amount of this outrage is manufactured by the various schizos that hate Tamers. I get being frustrated at him especially with the teasing of SU fans, but some of the shit I've read in this thread and the MLP ones is either bait or extremely potent mental illness. For the sane in this thread, give Tamers12345 the time to do what he wants to do instead of instantley jumping to conclusions. Patience greatly rewards those who are most faithful.

>>149413402
will always be faithful to tamers

>>149410022
Between the abundance of incest jokes in SU like that scene and that overly elaborate incest love triangle in the horse stuff, I’m beginning to have a lot of questions about the nature of Tamers’ relationship with his mom and bro

>>149413395
/thread

>>149413395
>20 paragraphs that could be summarized "the MLP movies aren't focused on comedy"
they're only 20 paragraphs because somehow there are still dumbasses that reply "NAAHHH you're just mad that it's not Sonic Underground" to that criticism

>flora
>aleena
>flora
>flora
>aleena
>flora
>where's flora
>this episode doesn't have flora
>i'll still only post about flora though
>i don't care about any characters other than flora and aleena when she's grooming flora
>token mention of bardonic

In the end they weren't Tamers fans, they were Sonic fans

>>149413851
I'd ask for more Manic but he actually got a pretty funny moment in the crossover segment so I can't complain

>>149413888
>Sonic fans
Femhog worshipers

i miss summer camp era threads

>>149413958
we can never go back...

>>149413395
LOL That dude in the /mlp/ thread is SEETHING at this post right now, you totally fucked him right up the ASS bro!

Didn't think the thread would be up this long so have this thing I doodled a bout a week or so ago
I still can't stop thinking about her...

>Single mother of 3
>Child abuser
>Poor
>Racist
>50+
>Closet lesbian
>Hypocrite
>Molester
>Murderer
>Nazi
>Illegal alien
>Victim of abuse
>Suicidal
>Smoker
>Drinker
>Drunk driver
>Into incest
>Purple
>Verbal abuser
>Bad parent
>Violent
>Short

What's the appeal?

>>149414324
man, at least when the horse fuckers are swooning over their waifus they're typing up new stuff and not just copypasting the same ol' same ol'

>>149412986
Me too, and /co/ doesn't have threads 90% of the time. Meanwhile mlp always has seethers and schizos.
>you /co/ fags
Nice try, you're not fooling anyone though.

>why is everyone selling out?!
Society is collapsing and the autists are the only ones who see this, aside from the nihilistic businessmen who engineered this collapse in the first place.

Obviously you should accumulate as much fucking money as possible while you can and turn it into hard value rather than fiat.

>>149403405
I privately messaged Tamers on Patreon about SU returning and I was told months ago that he was going to bring it back once he wrapped up MLP's plotlines. That's completely fair even if MLP has started to drag on to a point solely to reap in Patreon money and views from chronically online shippers. What I do have a problem with that made me stop financially supporting him is that 2 weeks ago I sent him a message very bluntly, but not rudely, asking for him to start age restricting his videos because at this point they've basically devolved into softcore porn with certain scenes and now I can very noticeably see his new audience is flooded with children and that makes me uncomfortable that he has yet to respond to the issue. I get they were always somewhat sexual but back in older videos before MLP, they weren't nearly drawn as well and largely played for jokes, at least until that Aleena spanking scene so it did also happen in SU, just is more prominent now in pony videos too. Along with that, the previous audience didn't consist of a large amount of children like these pony videos do now in the live chats etc. I don't care if i'm moral fagging, it just rubs me the wrong way that he's just letting it slide that he has a new influx of children in his audience and seemingly doesn't want to do the bare minimum of age restricting his videos. I still read threads like this one on him but i've entirely stopped supporting him on all avenues because of this.

>>149415210
I didn't think there is a single moment in tamers entire career where he put any effort into age restriction
If you go by the titles of his videos, it's like he's trying to get into YouTube kids

>>149415210
Also to add on to this before anyone says anything, I know he's not responsible for children interacting with his content. I was just asking for him to do the bare minimum since his videos have clearly garnered a new, younger audience and again that would be the minimum effort to deter his content getting to children or being fed in the algorithm and wouldn't hurt him financially now that he has a new influx of Patreon supporters.
>>149415244
Yeah, and granted I feel that was due to back in the day he had a very niche audience and most people who knew of his were adults. It's a personal thing that just doesn't sit right with me.

>>149415265
The moralfags on 'farms will claim that exposing this stuff to kids is why they took down his channel

>>149415210
This you? Regardless, this screenshot was the only thing giving me SU hope for a while, but after the last movie I'm not so sure he still feels the same way.

>>149415339
>I'll probably just make whichever I'm feeling
He's drawing pastel ponies for 10 hours a day. I think he just likes it

>>149415339
Without revealing too much or stirring any drama from either side, yes that was me who asked him and received that response. I genuinely did like the first few pony videos but like I said, they slowly got more sexual in nature and the characters became so shallow to just saying "I want to have buttsex" every few minutes that it was just boring. I feel like at this point everything is up for speculation but it's best to assume SU is just not the core audience anymore and move on. I know it sucks but i'd rather exit amicably if this is the way he wants to proceed with his channel and just move onto other things.
>>149415332
As of recent I came to the realization that Tamers is the maker of his own undoing for his channel going down. He's constantly been limit testing to see what he can get away with on Youtube. Part of me still wants to think he just forgot and never read the message and that this is just one big misunderstanding but part of me honestly does feel he just doesn't care. It sucks because he was genuinely my all time favorite creator and it hurts to realize this.

>>149415441
>he was genuinely my all time favorite creator and it hurts to realize this.
Anon, I really need to ask how many SU episodes you watched without seeing all the pedo hints and nods... Like I'm not accusing tamers of anything directly, but I'm just saying that people who hate pedos don't go out of their way to include pedo stuff in their content... jokes or not.

Oh my fucking god, are you a literal infant or mrenter level puritan?
Mspaint drawings of sideways asses and raunchy humor are nothing compared to how offensive and raw the internet was even five years ago. If you experienced a second of the pre-2015 internet or god forbid the 2000s internet you'd actually kill yourself in a screaming meltdown at the sight of something that dares to be mildly offensive

>>149415498
lmao what a crock of shit. He makes all sorts of edgy jokes, and pedo jokes happen to be a subgenre of that. Genocide, dead baby, scatological, pedo etc have always been a staple of edgy humor and were even more rife in the 2000's than they are today. Are you actually underage or just that much of a pearl-clutcher?

HE DELETED LMAO

>>149415551
Why? it's not like it reveals anything or is very scathing

>>149415523
Are you one of those retards who believes everything tamers does is ironic? Uh huh, and he doesn't get off on farts or poop either. You need to go rewatch SU.

>>149415523
>Guys, Tamers isn't gay! It's just a joke!

I feel like I'm not allowed to like either. I was disappointed with the pony shit at first, but I actually watched the recent Tamers videos and its pretty damn good. I wouldnt mind more of either.

>>149415332
Tbf, Youtube was on his ass for a good while before the takedown. I noticed a lot the Pony videos were getting forced age-restricted not long after they were uploaded and of course, there was that one episode that got him a strike and had to be censored later. I’m pretty sure Youtube just wanted an excuse to ban him completely by that point, even if it involved a mass flagging by shartyfags with plenty of evidence of it.

>>149415572
Unironic moralfagging over Tamers of all people is a pretty embarrassing act. Can’t really blame him for wanting to go back on it, even if it’s a fruitless endeavor, lol

To the moralfag who got mass deleted: Go watch something genuinely transgressive like The Sergio Show so you can have a near fatal indignance induced stroke that gives you enough damage to improve your posts

>>149415680
Yeah it's like people just ignore the fact that Tamers' content has basically only ever been allowed because he's too small for Youtube to notice. Eventually his pony stuff will get his channel struck down too (ignoring the fact you can't just make a new account after a ban) and everyone will blame SU fags when he has to start uploading as a Newgrounds exclusive or something despite the constant warning that Tamers is getting by on Youtube due to obscurity and not in spite of it.

>>149416033
>Eventually his pony stuff will get his channel struck down too
I mean, it did. Shattered harmony's rape scene was the nail in the coffin. He did make a new account with no problem though.

>>149387216
MEIN GOTT MUSS DAS SEIN!?!?

>>149416070
Oh yeah, you're right. And while it did get mass reported by the Sharty, ponyfags very much did as I said in the above post and blame SU for his channel getting deleted and not an on-screen rape in the MLP content.
Honestly the fact that Tamers' secondaries will sit and watch their own movie with super immediately obviously bannable content that they actively promoted get his channel nuked and then blame SU fans for being why he has problems is part of what makes them so irritating.

>>149416161
Only retarded newfags think SU fans got his channel shut down, as if that even makes sense. Everyone else knows it was carlos and the sharts. /mlp/ is just in a constant state of victimhood (as they always have been since being exiled) and will create enemies and rivalries from nothing.

>>149413402
no lies detected

>>149407225
>it actually has the premiere chat
god bless you anon

>>149414324
she is sex, and fluffy hair

>>149377807
Indeed...

>>149416070
His new account is actually an older alt he had that he just didn't use until after his account was deleted. I think he just had the foresight that his account was gonna get taken down someday, so hopefully he still has backups with the current ones goes under too.

>>149413888
Pretty obvious by their low-IQ responses

>>149395595
yeah but the problem is that the portal movie turned into more melodrama and dare i say even character assassination

>>149415551
>Future Sonic Underground videos
Lol

>>149414488
No they dont you lying bitch. Whenever the is a SU thread there is a guarantee there is seething at /mlp/ meanwhile most of the /mlp/ threads either dont talk about it or tell people off for talking about it

>>149419174
Second half had the Character assassination of who?
>Mary
Had like 3 minutes of screentime before this, and she just had a traumatic event. Not much character to assassinate
>Glim
I get the vibe that glim fans like this interpretation of the character
>Twi
Far from the first time she's been less bitchy just because she was in a great and powerful presence
>Flawless
The "manipulative ghost" to "baby" transition already started in the AJ western episode
>Bulk
Still a retard

>horsie show completely transplants Dingo's character into it
>doesnt have him do much
Whats the point?

>>149420225
Hes leading the /mlp/ version of the boys

>>149420225
I was pretty happy to hear dingo again and then he died like a bitch

>>149421359
Bulk came back in the portal movie, he faked his death

>>149421654
I'm glad he came back, it felt like a waste of a character to have him die like that

It makes me sad to know even my fellow autists can be complete sellouts.

>>149419874
Factually untrue, I lurk their threads because it's the only place to talk about tamers most of the time. There's literally ritual seething over gay stallions, sonic underground, or engaging in sharty/kiwi bait.
I mean the only reason we're even talking in the first place is because a horsefucker took punches at the innocent sonia post, you're not fooling anyone.