Thread 149377179

Apperantly Elio was originally going to be "queer coded".

How do you think this would have gone? Giving him an alien boyfriend? Or just subtext?

bumpu

an insider talked about it. he was supposed to openly have a male crush and there were scenes where he'd make a fashion show out of clothes found on the beach including a pink tank top showing the belly, for example.

>>149377179 (OP)
they didnt like it, apparently the audience on the test screening gave the guy responsible for this shit the death glare.

>>149377179 (OP)
They already talked about it. It was just going to be "minor" stuff like him having a picture of his male crush in his room and at one point there was going to be a fashion show scene.
>>149377401
The test screening didn't have the gay shit in it but the audience still hated it anyway.

>>149377369
This looks more pedo coded than queer coded.

>>149377179 (OP)
Yidsney be like
>We must make this underage boy look like he sucks dick

>>149377179 (OP)
if the actual movie was supposed to not be gay then they failed because that little nigga looks gay as fuck

>>149377179 (OP)
Movie starts with a scene of him jerking off to gay cartoon alien rule34

>>149377257

bumpu

>>149377179 (OP)
Diddled by his uncle

>>149377179 (OP)
Why does every kid-main-charactered movie need a relationship plot now? Isn't he like autistic anyways? Most of those people are too busy with hyperfixations to care about a guy or a girl.

Turning Red had the kid with a crush, so did Luca, I don't remember Pixar movies caring THIS much about love before. It had emotional relationships but not "crushes" or "love."

I bet that beaver movie that's coming out has the kid with a crush on some hot guy in her school.

>>149377179 (OP)
>gets censored over woke content
>worst opening in Pixar history
Anti woke shitters are fucking stupid lmao

>>149377369
They just said "pink tank top", you headcanon'd it showing belly

>>149378121
>Woody and Bo Beep
>Jessie and Buzz
>Flick and Atta
>Mike Wazowski and Celia
>Bob and Helen
>Violet and her crush
>McQueen and Sally
>Carl and Ellie
>Wall-E and Eve
You're right anon, Pixar movies never had crushes or romantic love before

>>149378121
There was no relationship plot in Elio though, just "queer coding" since it draws autobiographical aspects from Molinas life like their past few movies have with their directors.
>Luca
Had no romantic subplot, when it did it was still early in production and it was between Luca and the human girl. Luca having a crush on her despite her wanting to hunt seamonsters for money.

>>149378218
He didn't say pixar movie you retard, he said kid-main-character movie. Sure do love kid main characters like Buzz, Woody, Mike, Sully, Flick oh wait none of the characters you listed are kids or even supposed to resemble actual kids except Violet and her crush was not a plot line, it was a story device just used to show her character growth by the end of the film. Fucking idiot. It's real easy to argue with people when you just make up what they said.

>>149378427
Nta but what movies with kid main characters have had romance? I think very few kid's movies have kids as protagonists anyway and only romance ones were the older disney ones.

>>149377179 (OP)
This film would've failed regardless, if they kept all that in there would be 100s of grifting channels telling people to not see it and it would've failed harder.
That's what happens when you anger both sides and become neutral because one side doesn't trust you and the other side has a literal meltdown because a scene was cut and will rile themselves up.
We're in a weird cultural transition, people are more offensive and racist and avoid stuff like this because they see it and go "looks too progressive I'll avoid it"

>>149377179 (OP)
it was a picture on a nightstand.

>>149378457
I don't know and I don't care. I wasn't defending the other person's point. I am just so sick and tired of retards arguing like this. Putting words in people's mouth because if you make up a fake version of someone that said something stupid they are easier to argue with. It's becoming impossible to have discussions with human beings online and, increasingly the real world, because people are becoming so fucking illiterate and incoherent.

>>149377179 (OP)
>coded
I hate this retarded phrase. It was obviously made up to give a more "legitimate" term for people's retarded head canon.

>>149378483
>Putting words in people's mouth because if you make up a fake version of someone that said something stupid they are easier to argue with
Tbh he did also mention pixar movies as an example
>I don't remember Pixar movies caring THIS much about love before. It had emotional relationships but not "crushes" or "love
>I don't know and I don't care
Real shit honestly

>>149378121
>Why does every kid-main-charactered movie need a relationship plot now? I
What are you talking about. If anything people have been complaining about the lack of MC romances, even for kids.
Luca didn't have a romance. They didn't give one for Mei.

>>149377179 (OP)
If I remember correctly the movie was going to have him have a male crush.
Pixar made a good move on this cuz they trying to reach wide net across the world other than america, if they made him out gay this movie would be a blunder.

>>149378715
The article with the pixar employee explained it as Elio having a picture of his crush on his wall somewhere in his room.
>a blunder
Implying it isn't already despite the delays and rewrites(definitely inflated the budget). It seemed like something that could be edited out or cut out entirely fairly easy as it wasn't a major or integral part of the movie. The movie definitely failed for other reasons, it's genuinely interesting.

>>149377179 (OP)
You mean it’s not already

>>149377369
>pink tank top showing the belly
drawfag when?

>>149378137
>Assuming the movie would not do even worse if they kept the gay slop in this movie
Not the gacha you think it is retarded tranny. Having woke shit is only one of the many problems something could have.

>>149377179 (OP)
>How do you think this would have gone?

The fuck do you mean, "how would it have gone?" Literally the entire reason they did the rewrite is because the test screenings of the queer-coded version were so bad that not a single person told the producers they'd pay to see the film in theaters.

>>149377179 (OP)
Why do they want children to be gay? They shouldn’t worry about that shit until they’re teens.

>>149379861
Queer doesn't mean gay. It means outside or alien. Nick in zootopia is also queer coded as a predator.

>>149380159
You need to get burned at the stake

>>149377179 (OP)
>fags in the industry pretending that if they made the kid a homo it would be successful
Their logic really is limited to their sexuality.

>>149378964
>they did the rewrite is because the test screenings of the queer-coded version were so bad that not a single person told the producers they'd pay to see the film in theaters
Wait really?

>>149377369
>make a fashion show out of clothes found on the beach including a pink tank top showing the belly, for example.
Implied people funking on the beach?

>>149380159
>Nick in zootopia is also queer coded as a predator
Top kek

>>149379861
>They shouldn’t worry about that shit until they’re teens.
Not even then. A massive component is enviromental exposure so ideally it should be case by case when it is clear that a teenager has those impulses. If you don't you may end up leading adolscents developing to be homosexual when they otherwise wouldn't be without exposure. Not even being chuddy or controversial here it's a matter of fact.

>>149377481
Typical

>>149377481
Same thing.

Three weeks and this film only made $110 million, this ain’t making that Elemental comeback

>>149380307
No the fashion show was an arts and crafts tier thing with Elio incorporating junk into a sandcastle he made to give it stuff like flags and decorating a crabs shell.
>>149380441
Of course not, the budget is listed as 150 million but it's definitely higher besides the additional anount spent on marketing. I think the rumor of it being closer 200 million is probably true.

>>149380212
LGBT narratives love queer narratives because it's all about identity politics. Mostly just trans people that seek external validation and recognition.

It was more relatable to gays in 90s when their friends would just abandon them over public perceptions. But today people are more aware of parasocial relationships thanks to the internet. And the growing awareness that if your country has conformity laws, you're not a citizen, you're cattle.

>>149380212
>stake
>steka
>steak

>>149380159
It’s gay. Don’t try to back out it.

>>149381507
Mmmhm. A fish out of water story isn't literally about a fish out of water. And a movie about aliens can't be about alienation.