Thread 149378179

Is Superman an isolated incident, or so overseas markets no longer care about superheroes at all?
I suppose we'll know in a couple weeks when Fantastic Four comes out. I could see superheroes becoming just an American thing.

Superman finds himself on the dunny but notices too late there isn't any toilet paper.

>>149378199
Seppos won't understand this you poof.

He contacts his friend & arch nemesis LOOther to request some bowel-evacuating assistance

The movie looked awful it's not our fault we don't want to watch movies that look like a credit card commercial

It's why the Snyder Era of DC actually made money

Heroes are supposed to mythic and something to aspire to

Why would I want to aspire to be a ugly Jewish zoomer?

>>149378211
Nobody seriously thinks that cyborg turd is something to aspire to

>>149378179 (OP)
nah it's just only Americans are dumb enough to like a movie this bad

>>149378179 (OP)
I don't care about any capeslop made after the 00s.

What the fuck is this thread

>>149378179 (OP)
>Is Superman an isolated incident, or so overseas markets no longer care about superheroes at all?
The rest of the world stands behind Mr Snyder, saar.

>>149378211
SAAR

>>149378211
>Superheroes must be mythical
Lmao no they don't. Wrong medium wrong characters. Comics are inherently campy

>>149378179 (OP)
D&W is swan song of Superheroes movie

>>149378179 (OP)
Capeshit movies are extremely overused at this point.

>>149378179 (OP)
maybe James Gunn should've made actual trailers instead of ragebaiting and making puppybowl ads.

Superman is called the "Man of Steel," not the "Man of Sóy."

>>149378179 (OP)
I think international audiences did not find this new version exciting. All the B list character references probably scared them away as it eels unfamiliar to them.

>>149378179 (OP)
The view from bongland: I think general audiences here are just done with capes. My screening was like 3/4 empty on the second day of release, a Saturday as well, when you’d expect families and wagies to show up. There’s also the fact everybody is fucking skint right now, but that shouldn’t even have affected my cinema because it’s a Vue where you can get tickets for £4.99. Not even the value seats were filled.

>>149378772
>Not even the value seats were filled.
Damn, get fucked Supernerd.

>>149378707
I just don’t like the tone of the movie. It’s a bit too childish for me.

>>149378458
>muh snyder muh jeets
pathetic imagine being this much of a dick sucker for some corpo slop movie

>>149379149
hi good morning

>>149379162
> jeet jeet jeet

Fuck America, fuck Trump, boycott all American product you can.

It's a SUCCESS, you mean me you dirty little incels!?! A SUCCESS! A SUCCESS!! TEN BILLION OPENING DAY!!!

>>149378330
Anon, India is one of the foreign markets where Superman actually took #1 at the box office.

I think it speaks to how hard it is for solo CBM projects to light up the sky these days.

And by solo I mean as solo as you can conceivably get these days. Deadpool & Wolverine is a team-up movie, Spidey only got to a billion finally due to a contractual clause that requires another major established character in his movies and the multiverse latches like a leach to almost everything.

Despite all the buzz about "people aren't sick of superhero movies, they're just sick of bad superhero movies", in actuality what they really want are hype moments and aura, whether that enriches or gets in the way of actual storytelling (typically the latter).

Ironically Clayface of all things is probably the only project in the current DC film slate that might knock it out of the park at the box office, since it will only cost $40 million and is marketing itself as a stand-alone horror movie.

>>149378179 (OP)
Superman and FF are antiquated relics. FF might have worked if people hadn’t gotten sick of multiverse shit being shoved in every movie, but that shit has flopped every ten years when they try make it a thing

>>149378211
>Heroes are supposed to mythic and something to aspire to
>Why would I want to aspire to be a ugly Jewish zoomer?
But enough about Gal Gadot...

>>149379612
FF hasn't even released yet so its a bit too soon to say if this is superhero fatigue or just unique to Superman.

>>149379612
People love the multiverse shit in Marvel tho, Deadpool & Wolverine made over a billion dollars. Meanwhile, Brave New World and Thunderbolts, "grounded" MCU films, only made around $300-400 million.

>>149379634
Deadpool and Wolverine was a nostalgia fest that baked on 25 years of build up and even called out how over used and tired out multiverse shit is
Nobody likes it except the biggest fucking retard in the crowd

>>149379645
>Nobody likes it except the biggest fucking retard in the crowd
So a billion people?

>>149379630
>Flopped in 05
>Flopped in 15
>Will flop in 2 weeks
>Will flop again in 10 years
Nobody likes them

>>149379682
Marvel Rivals actually made them popular for once.

>>149379682
t. Victor

>>149379210
>Politics out of nowhere
You commies are just as bad as rightards.

>>149379700
Superman is in Fortnite, in the current season's Battle Pass even. That game has more players than Rivals and it didn't help.

Gunn's style is just very American for foreign markets. Referencing music only Gen X Americans really care about, really overwrought appeals to emotion, everyone is always snarky or sarcastic instead of acting like sincere human beings.
It just must seem bizarre. The kind of American films that resonate with foreign audiences are pretty cut and dried and don't try to put too much of the director's own tastes into it. Guardians is an exception because the whole identity of those films revolves around the lead character beign some Gen Xer who got sent to outer space and how it shapes his world view, butno one expects a similar tone from a regular superhero movie.

>>149378281
Didney shill thread. Saars are desperate now that Superman is cleaning house at the box office and F4 is on track to flop.

>>149379630
"Good opening, horrible legs" is the MO for capeshit this year. FF will open big and then only gross like 444.4 million.

>>149378179 (OP)
How about you make them good movies. Ever thought of that, Shekelstein?

>>149380000
It's more than that, Superman's whole thing is that he's the quintessential american superhero who embodied american values. "Truth, justice, and the american way" was basically his motto for a long time in the comics.

To most other countries, that's makes him boring at best and sus at worst because being quintessentially american is construed as a negative quality nowadays.

>>149380000
Literally all of that shit is in every MCU film x10 so thats some straight up bullshit foreigners just don't care about Superman especially with Trump pissing everyone off at the moment souring the world on anything too America coded.

>>149378211
>The movie looked awful it's not our fault we don't want to watch movies that look like a credit card commercial
The movie had plenty of style though.
>Heroes are supposed to mythic and something to aspire to
I hate how people keep saying this when the Snyder heroes DIDN'T REALLY STAND FOR ANYTHING beyond a generic 'do good'.

Superman looked depressed and morose 90% of the time and looked inconvenienced while he was saving people. He never specifically said what his ideology was.

Batman's ideology if anything was, "Let criminals get murdered for all I care."

Wonder Woman fucked off for an entire century because her boyfriend died.

The only exception is Aquaman, who was pretty adamant on protecting the ocean and seeking good relations between Atlantis and the surface world.

>>149378179 (OP)
the rest of the world is poor. They already used their money to watch a movie (Jurassic World) and don't have enough money to watch another movie

>>149380593
the movie looks like shit. poor lighting, terrible cgi, bad cinematography. don't even get me started on the plot. just because synder's movies sucked ass doesn't mean this one is good by default.

It's probably going to do $650m+ which will probably be a modest profit overall. The days of Superhero films comfortably getting $800m+ are done, shit has to really make people want to open their wallets now.

Hollywood needs to get their budgets under control, Need to keep things way south of $200m.

>>149380627
>the movie looks like shit. poor lighting, terrible cgi, bad cinematography.
Considering one of the more consistent praises for the movie is how good it looks, most would disagree with you.

>don't even get me started on the plot.
Plot is mostly good though.

>>149378211
>>149380627
>>149378305

>>149378772
I think it's also just. This is Mr. "Truth, Justice, and the American way", he's Americana no matter how hard they try to divorce him from it. And given everyone's less than amicable relationship with the US right now as the tariff gun keeps firing? That's gonna damage foreign box office something fierce

>>149380000
>everyone is always snarky or sarcastic instead of acting like sincere human beings.
But thats every movie in the last 10 years.

>>149379682
>Nobody likes them
Only Doom's good. And Silver Surfer.

>>149378179 (OP)
The only superhero that foreigners care about is Spider-Man

>>149378772
I wouldn't say the problem is capes. I'd say the problem is that people don't want to watch a Superman movie where he's a bitch that keeps getting pummeled all movie long.
I get it, I get it. You feminists need to have the symbol of the patriarchy pummeled or else you have your periods. But don't expect that garbage to sell to the general audience.

>>149380000
Can confirm, anon, that I hated how the movie didn't have an original soundtrack, and instead played that animated series intro song on a loop. CONSTANTLY. I got so fed up with it just 10 minutes in.

>>149381035
And Deadpool.
And Wolverine.
And Batman.
And X-Men.
And Iron Man.
And Captain America.
And even Guardians of the Reddit.

Clearly they just have a conspiracy against Supes and this movie doesn't suck.

>>149380593
>The movie had plenty of style though.
Where?
Everybody wears the same jacket. And the villain is "uhh uhhh what if Superman but evil? I'm a genius, that's never been done before!!"

>>149381368
You gotta bait harder next time.

Did Trump's Superman poster hurt the sales internationally or what?

>>149382126
Latin America and China are fans of the Snyderverse

>>149382126
Nobody outside burgerland pays attention to that dumb shit. Well except maybe to point and laugh and say
>the absolute fucking state(s)

>>149382126
Considering there are people that blamed Gal Gadot for Snow White failing then yes, there are people that will blame Trump if Warner is disappointed with Superman’s box office.

>>149382126
there is a big anti ameriturd sentiment yes

So if global politics are hurting Superman's international box office, then the Fantastic Four are doomed? You can't get more American than the Fantastic Four; they embody the Space Age dream, and the new movie's aesthetic is Americana but retrofuturistic.

>>149382663
Yes, of course, anything but addressing the real problem.

>>149382663
>So if global politics are hurting Superman's international box office
that's just a cope from Gunn jeets

>>149378179 (OP)
Nobody likes a loser.

>>149382663
I think FF is fucked yeah

>>149378179 (OP)
>Is Superman an isolated incident, or so overseas markets no longer care about superheroes at all?
I don't give a shit what turd worlders have to say about my American heroes

>>149382918
Really? Because this thread sounds like a lot of cope from OP and his Snydercult

>>149380593
It gets worse when Snider went full Scheherazade "superman wasn't superman yet, he needed 5 movies to become himself!!!"

>>149382663
there's nothing to look forward to in Superman just from reviews, just a bunch of spiel about politics and muh auturds.

FF has Galactus and Silver Surfer. that's all you need.

>>149380160
It's pretty odd, the people most critical of it are the people who it tries to represent, leaving ... who exactly to sell it to? Everywhere else doesn't care, they're looking at it the same way we see samurai porn or king arthur slop.

>>149385469
>FF has Silver Surfer.
No it doesn't

>>149378179 (OP)
Okay I’m not like all these industry-insiders who know all about the ins and outs of movie making and how much money they need to turn a profit but I’m seeing a lot of talk on /co/ about how horrible Superman’s doing overseas…it’s made roughly the same as the domestic, is it normal for a movie to make, like, double overseas as domestic?

>>149382170
>Latin America
OP's image is old, already.
Latin America repped 50 of the foreign gross and Superman was the top movie in those markets, it was considered 'soft' in Asia. JWR will beat it in China but no one, either at WB/DISCO or even other studios, expected otherwise. Japan will probably be a disappointment if those numbers don't improve.

>>149382663
Yes, global politics will also hurt First Step, especially since it has other problems. Idiots here might be happy that the main cast are all very white, but that won't play in say China. Idiots here may complain that Pascal is Mexican, but that won't help FF in Latin America. Marvel remains popular in LA but Latin America only contributed about $24-25M to Thunderbolts worldwide BO, and most of the $10M+ was Mexico. Superman already made $8.8M in Mexico this weekend and will probably end up with more than $10M easily by mid-August when it stops playing in theaters, as just one example. And that was with a more diverse cast than First Steps.

>>149385859
people are being idiots, arm chair insiders when they aren't - it's like trusting randos on a YT channel or the comment section for fantasy football leagues

studios prefer it be 50/50. the movies that make a billion tend to make more overseas but it's never two to one unless we're talking major over a billion

lilo is almost a billy but that's $400+ local, $500+ foreign - minecraft is almost the same, just under but it's not really in theaters so lilo will go over a billy and minecraft won't

last year, inside out 2 made almost 1.7B, and almost a billy was foreign, despicable me 2 only got slightly past $950M and it was also 1/2 getting not quite twice as much foreign as dom
but the other two movies that a billy/billy+ (moana and deadpool/wolvie) were both 50/50

so it's stupid people talking out of their asses
superman should easily clear $550-600M and about another $180-220M will be foreign - we will know next Saturday how well it might actually end up

>>149381362
>Clearly they just have a conspiracy against Supes and this movie doesn't suck.
There is one

>>149387053
Yeah okay, Gunn.

>>149386211
>Latin America repped 50 of the foreign gross
How bad is that you depend exclusively of them

>>149378211
>not a single white person in that photo
Yeah, nah.

>>149378179 (OP)
People will watch good movies, and despite all the fake hype Superman 2025 is not a good movie. It's made clear from the trailers and the mixes reviews.

>>149387140
>and the mixes reviews.
such as?

>>149387068
Not as bad as the people who were totally convinced that they could rely on China box office in the 2010s even though even back then it was known that studios only got 25% of the money from China's box office

>>149385780
>It's pretty odd, the people most critical of it are the people who it tries to represent, leaving ... who exactly to sell it to?
Americans obviously. The movie is doing well domestically, it's overseas where it's struggling

>>149380000
>music only Gen X Americans really care about
?
There weren't any Gen X people at the World Inferno shows I used to go to. What are you on about?
Also, Gunn is not a music supervisor. He's not the one who picks the songs.

>>149378281
The effects of the industrial revolution

>>149378179 (OP)
>and the human way
Fucking blasphemy

>>149387234
Superman helping to deport all the aliens who don't accept the human way

>>149378179 (OP)
DC brand is in the mud after the snyder years. Gonna take a few hits in a row to build it up. Even Superman who hasn't had a good movie in like 50 years. Should be more compared to the phase 1 marvel movies

>>149387234
>muh anticommunist propaganda from the 50s
Superman renounced his American citizenship in the 60s

>>149378211
Everyone in that pic looks like a crossplayer painted onto velvet by an Elvis impersonator.
Cinematography is the only thing Snyder is actually good at and you picked a pic that makes him look like he takes boudoir shots in a Reno strip mall.

>>149387324
More like fatfleck

>>149380051
>lower box office than man of steel