Thread 149383513

Looks like the DCU is gonna move ahead, Zaslav considers Superman a big success.
They must literally only care about domestic gross

>>149383513 (OP)
>They must literally only care about domestic gross
Good will can go a long way as well, it's oddly forward thinking for a CEO but seems like he's banking on public perception for DC films going up so turn out will continue to rise with each project.

>>149383513 (OP)
Domestic gross is more important, they get a greater share of the total box office from domestic ticket sales. Looking at worldwide numbers to determine if a movie is successful obscures a lot of factors.

>>149383538
Iirc they make 75% dom 25% international

>>149383689
Same anon and I’ll be honest, that’s more extreme than I thought.

>>149383513 (OP)
Gunn has to be put on a leash if they insist on following through with him

>>149383513 (OP)
Does he really believe that or is he just saying that to save face and look good for potential buyers?

>>149383689
>>149383707
They get 50-55% of domestic box office, 40-45% of international box office (except China's), 25% of China box office

>>149383765
China has started to close themselves off to a lot of Western movies lately, too, I'm not sure how much longer the Chinese market is even going to matter for Hollywoood.

>>149383744
Well, I kinda hope it's true that he feels that way and that it isn't a front he is putting on for buyers. I liked the new Superman movie and I want this new DCU to continue.

>>149383513 (OP)
>studio says movie is doing great

Are you retards seriously falling for this shit? What else do you expect him to say?

>>149383513 (OP)
>domestic gross
>>149383513 (OP)
>They must literally only care about domestic gross
You are all brain rotted, what with saying that Jurassic World Rebirth, which barely hit below $580 million worldwide this weekend being 'close to' or 'almost at billion' and totally 'ass blasting' (or words to that effect) DC/WB and Superman. There's over $400M before JWR hits a billion. And if it doubles what it's made international so far, that only takes it up to about $800M.

Yes, it's a success, yes it will gross more in China than Superman. But other than China, the markets where JWR made money, it's not making it at the same level as opening, adding for example, only a few million to the $10M plus it made opening weekend in the UK, and likewise similar situations in Mexico and other markets where it pulled really well opening.

Lilo will likely end up as the biggest film and possibly the only one to cross $1B in 2025, that is not animated (Zootopia) and is not a Avatar sequel - and Avatar will likely make all it's money in 2026, so it won't count as a $1B movie in calendar 2025.

WB cares about worldwide grosses, and probably expects Superman to make more than MoS made overseas and either match or beat what The Batman did, which will be considered a success given that even the movie they are releasing for Apple (F1) is still doing decent business overseas and the competition overseas being brisker.

Some idiots have been saying that people didn't go see Superman overseas because they spent their money seeing JWR - that's idiotic and stupid, since they are buying tickets this weekend to see F1, to still see Lilo and, yes, to see Superman.

>>149383513 (OP)
I get it looks good domestically so far but maybe he shouldn't count his chickens before they hatch

>>149384053
That's not the American Way, anon.

>>149384018
tl;dr

>>149383513 (OP)
I figured you faggots would have some cope about this movie being successful but I’ll admit I didn’t see “international gross is more important than domestic” coming.

>>149383899
It's Zaslav so it's expected for him to cut more cartoons from HBO Max and add more realityslop.

>>149384152
It always happens with a DC movie.

>>149383513 (OP)
>only care about domestic gross
They should.

>>149383513 (OP)
>They must literally only care about domestic gross
>Get the biggest revenue from the domestic gross
No shit.

>>149383513 (OP)
>They must literally only care about domestic gross
But that’s what they used to justify rebooting with DCU to begin with.

>NO NO NO NO IT'S FAILING! I JUST KNOW IT MUST BE FAILING! I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, IT'S FAILING! I REFUSE TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE IT ISN'T FAILING! SAVE ME, SNYDER!
pathetic

>>149383534
LOL he's insane, all it takes for that "good will" to turn sour is just one flop (which this movie already is but Zazlav is ignoring reality)

>>149383513 (OP)
From the start, this movie was aimed mostly at the domestic market. It's fucking Superman, he's more directly associated with America than any other hero who doesn't have "America" in his damn name.

Betting on the domestic gross was always the plan, and the plan worked.

>>149384684
Snyderfags trying to redefine the meaning of "flop" is one of the more predictable forms of cope I've seen today.

Now that we know the DCU isn't being deleted as a tax write-off, what do you think this was about? They give a flippant line that Luthor wants to be a king, but a king of some Eastern European rump-state?

We're pretty sure there's a macguffin there, right?

>>149383899
>>149384684
Sure niggas, Zaslav is gonna spend hundreds of millions of dollars just to throw you off because you see through his charade.

>>149384918
Not really. Not in terms of tickets sold.

>>149383765
It's way more than 55% I used to work in a theater

>all of these faggots LARPing as Entourage hot shots with their box office meme accounting/nerd fantasy football bullshit.
Cuh-FUCKING-ringe my dudes.

>>149383513 (OP)
>the DCU is gonna move ahead
AGAIN?!

wtf I like zaslav now?
ok then, death to the coyote movie

>>149383725
The big worry if this movie did well enough for Gunn to keep running the movies was always that we'd have years of him pushing some really stupid or niche characters, as well as more GoTG-tier comedy with characters where it doesn't fit.

>>149384952
I think they also explained that he mainly wanted the country for it's natural resources as it would triple his investments.

>>149384918
captain america does well overseas their is no excuse for this the movie is just bad and cringe

>>149384684
>it's a flop because a fat shouty man on the Internet told me it was
lol get some original opinions would ya.

>>149384918
>Movie is about a war in some shithole
>Extremely diverse, some Indian is the killed civilian
>Totally about the domestic, anon

>>149384952
Unsure about him wanting the country just to drill it dry when he named it Luthoria. I figure it was to drill it, yes, but also to settle there? He can make it legal whatever he's doing. Like Doom

>>149383513 (OP)
He said the same thing about Black Adam before doing a 180.

Even if this movie isn't considered a flop, it's not a success.

Furthermore, Supergirl WILL flop. She's literally just a C-list version of Superman.

>>149383513 (OP)
>They must literally only care about domestic gross
Oh no, how terrible. How will they ever live without China pandering?

>>149387051
It's not just China, it's flopping everywhere except in the US/Canada and Brazil.

>>149387017
>Even if this movie isn't considered a flop, it's not a success.
Depends on their goals. Going by Gunn and Zaslav's comments, it seems like they always knew $1 billion was never going to be able achievable with how the DC brand was in the toilet. That the movie has a positive reception at all is an achievement considering how the last few DC movies were received. So they're prioritizing goodwill and rebuilding the franchise for the longterm, it'll be fine for Superman to just at least make $500 million when they could get the other momey back via home media, syndication rights, streaming, and merchandise.

>>149387017
>Snyderfags are ESL subhumans that use their phones in theaters
Lol

>>149387106
Gunnjeets said it'd make over $2B a year ago, some still think it will break a billion if you go with that Indian Pepe meme thry've made.

>>149383534
this. dc brand is in the toilet after snyder. this is a great first step

>>149383513 (OP)
reminder that they all celebrated MoS and then tripped into a huge vat of shite and tried to eat their way out for the next 12 years

>>149387106
>That the movie has a positive reception at all is an achievement
It doesnt. All paid advertisement. The only metric you can really rely on these days are toys and costumes sold. Its the only one not compromised since you pay for it, unlike comments which are free.

If by Halloween you see a lot of Hawkgirls and Supermen, yes, it got a good reception. If you dont then it didnt.

By the way McFarlane figures are already on clearance. Meanwhile I shit you not, the BvS wave they did in fucking 2025 sold out. Alfred sold fucking out. 7 years after the movie was released.

>>149383513 (OP)
I think the big thing that guarantees Gunn's universe surviving after this is his fiscal conservatism when it comes to making movies. Superman's production mostly went off without a hitch. No big emergency reshoots that added another 200 mill to an over-bloated budget, at most just getting the film re-edited after some critique with test screenings. There isnt a "This movie needed to make 800 milly to make its money back" reports for this film coming out, what you see is what you get. There was no drama on set, no in fighting, no reshoots that are actually just CGI animators working overtime, just a solid production in terms of just getting shit done.
With that into account with what anon said here >>149387106 it making 500-600 mill by the end of its cycle will actually be huge for them cause it probably made a higher percentage in profit then the previous films(especially Justice League by god that was a mess)

>>149387502
Plus don’t forget boutique brands continue to make new Snyderverse figures and they’re always popular

>>149383513 (OP)
Real question, why does /tv/ love Zaslav? Do they hate animation that much they'll support /co/'s biggest villain?

>>149383513 (OP)
>>149383775
With the rise of the New Nationalism globalism is fading and international trade will become less and less important. Pity nations like China that depend upon it and can't close themselves off entirely like we can.

>>149387682
>be huge for them cause it probably made a higher percentage in profit then the previous films
Nice try. but marketing was huge. Once you factor the theater cut, which you are also forgetting on purpose, its not making any profit at 600m.

>>149387911
>With the rise of the New Nationalism, globalism is fading
Nice moment to go for gigawoke shit. I wonder if this new world will happily accept Gunn's message of "if you dont want uncontrolled immigration you are a jerk, screw yourself"

>>149388045
Gunn wrote a movie where the immigrant rejects his roots in favor of the nation he adopted, it's actually surprisingly based.

>>149388045
Have you watched the movie? It has nothing about immigrants. In any case it's more about American exceptionalism

>>149387502
>It doesnt. All paid advertisement.
Where was this paid advertising when Joker 2 came out last year?

>>149387770
Because we recognize that movies are a business and sometimes bad ideas don't make money

>>149388028
It came out today that the marketing budget was around $100 million, isn't that the standard for any blockbuster?

>>149388218
yes but anons presented with a simple business case that doesn't favor their narrative will always pretend that any movie they don't like spent billions in marketing...somewhere you just didn't see.

>>149384684
better opening weekend than Man of Steel btw, including previews

>>149388373
Actually MoS beat Superman 2025 both in preview sales and opening week (even without accounting for inflation).

>>149388028
Maybe, but the fact that they skipped the Superbowl means they didn't go all out .

>>149384114
>too stupid; can't read
YES, YES, YES
EXACTLY

>>149388398
>facts are
>stupid
>thing delusional
>cult minions
>don't worry about

>>149387770
/tv/ just hates nice things.

>>149387770
/tv/ is just a bunch of contrarian faggots, I'd say that /film/ is the only good thread on that board

>>149388067
Gunn seems even handed about stuff even though he's a Hollywood lib. He made the High evolutionary irredeemably evil. That's usually verboten for Hollywood when it comes to black villains

>>149384684
>one flop (which this movie already is but Zazlav is ignoring reality)
compared to joker 2? justice league? the flash? birds of prey? ww 1984? basically every single film that isn't the batman?
dc has been in the shitter for years now so a film that breaks even and gets the public even cautiously optimistic for the future of the franchise is a huge win

>>149388086
You're retarded.

>>149390781
>so a film that breaks even and gets the public even cautiously optimistic for the future of the franchise is a huge win
It hasn't broken even yet.

Superman's ubiquity doesn't reach the heights outside of the US compared to domestically so what else can you hope for?

>>149383513 (OP)
DC Gunniverse going on ahead?

Will Zaslav say the same when Supergirl flops? Zaslav says the Gunn DC universe will be around for a decade but i don't see it around surviving for the next 3 years. Gunn is giving too many nobodies too much screen time: Peacemaker? Clayface? etc. These are characters nobody will give a fuck about. Gunn thinks because he made guardians popular he can make anyone popular but it does not work like that. Gunn's DC will be DOA in 3 years.

>>149391183
holy cope

>>149391183
If it has a small enough budget it won't flop

>>149387770
You do realize that the majority of 4chan has historically been ideologically opposite to /co/ right?

>>149391343
>>149391389
Like usual dumbass Gunnshills don't know what they are talking about. Gunn's future DC projects don't look good at all and you can see how Gunn is trying to generate hype for failures like Peacemaker with botted comments and putting the show on network TV. He knows his current work is trash.
> If it has a small enough budget it won't flop
Superhero movies with small budgets don't do well. People only watch superhero movies for the spectacle of it. Once people see the DC logo and see the film was made with a shoestring budget it will turn people off.

>>149391420
As someone who's a /co/ main, I don't blame them.

>>149391564
>Once people see the DC logo and see the film was made with a shoestring budget it will turn people off.
Joker made a billion, though that's the power of the clown. And then the director fucked up the sequel.

>>149383513 (OP)
If any of you itt are opposed to this new direction for DC movies, don't worry. WB will fuck this up later on.
I expect that Supergirl and Clayface won't make much money, meaning WB will force Batman: The Brave and the Bold into World's Finest and spend like 600 million on that movie when accounting for advertising and reshoots, and then once it underperforms they'll reboot the whole line again.
Screencap this.