Thread 149401367

Superman is a refugee not an immigrant. Stop forcing him into this weird box to fit with your narrative.

>>149401367 (OP)
Why is Lois poop-faced?

>>149401367 (OP)
>refugee not an immigrant.
Literally what's the difference.

>>149401444
An immigrant has a country to go back to.

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>>149401429
Sorry shitlibs, no amount of BUT MUH SUPERMAN'S A REFUGEE TOO is ever going to make us hand our country over wholesale to worthless illegals.

>>149401367 (OP)
A refugee is an immigrant you bald monkey.

>>149401442
Sorry Lois is asian now. Haven't you seen MAWS?

>>149401470
an immigrant can be a refugee
a refugee doesn't need to be an immigrant

>>149401442
Lois Lane is a black woman.

>>149401470
No. A person seeking refuge in the US isn't just an immigrant. These people cannot return and trying to send them back is a crime against humanity. Thats why asylum laws exist.

>>149401466
That's fair.

>>149401367 (OP)
you mean a rapefugee

>>149401515
Nope

>>149401524
Fuck me that new movie is so bad
>Lex admits to breaking and entering the Fortress
>comes with some retarded "message" with a language nobody has ever heard
>everyone INSTANTLY believes him including Superman
>Superman never once considers asking the FUCKING INTERGALACTIC SPACE COP to translate the message
>US government puts the man who injects people with nanomachines for fun and has ahabit of kidnapping ex gurlfriends in charge of catching and jailing Superman based on nothing whatsoever
Damn. This was such a shit shit shit movie.

>>149401598
>Intergalactic Space Cop
A real movie would've had the Guardians ask Gardner to bring in Superman for questioning if that message was true. But then this isn't a real Superman movie. Its a Superman parody.

>>149401466
>An immigrant has a country to go back to.
And you want to send them back to crime ridden shitholes?

>>149401725
How else are those shitholes going to improve otherwise if the so called "Hard working honest people" fucking leave, dipshit?

Either they're not that and obviously shouldn't be here or they are that and that means the best place they could make a difference is that country.

>>149401725
America is a crime ridden shithole.

>>149401725
They are bringing the crime here and doing nothing to assimilate.

>>149401374
Why is that white lady doing the distracted boyfriend meme?

>>149401367 (OP)
Lois Loan (20% APR on a used Altima)

Man of Steel
>I grew up in Kansas general. I'm as American as it gets
Superman Legacy
>I must turn myself in because my biological parents were criminals or something

Yeah. Great movie.

If refugees and immigrants are so good why not send them to israel?

>>149401367 (OP)
Those are not mutually exclusive categories, Superman is a refugee because he can't go back to his home country, he's an immigrant because he's established permanent residence on Earth. Earth is his home, specifically America, even if he protects the world. He's a Kryptonian-American immigrant.

>>149401972
Israel is not a place for people who are good.

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>>149402008
Doesn't this nigga live in the North Pole anyway?

>>149402029
It's where he keeps his Superman stuff, but he usually has a home with Lois in the US.

>>149402053
Do they own/rent a home together? Because it feels like Superman has the excuse of not technically living IN America and only visiting. And when you also take in the fact he can go to the Watchtower in space doesn't seem like he has residency anywhere on Earth.

>>149401367 (OP)
I don't mind Lois being not white, but I find this art style repulsive and Lois' outfit choice to be terrible. Hate this phenomenon of liberal artists wanting to make white characters dark-skinned but then don't account for the color values of the outfit.

I didn't mind Scarlet Witch being dark skinned in Marvel Rivals because the color values of her costume were adjusted to match, so it looks pleasing. This comic looks terrible. Lois looks like a clown.

>>149402109
I mean he resided in the US continuously for his entire childhood, so he's not trying to establish residence for immigration at this point. He's just a US resident who happens to have a house at the north pole as well. The Watchtower seems more like visiting.

>>149401725
I thought we weren't allowed to call those places shitholes.

>>149401725
they can always come the legal way

like the other legal immigrants did, who by the way, usually can't stand illegal aliens.

>>149401516
Too bad the current regime does differentiate and is deporting both.

>>149402163
wasn't he legally adopted by the Kents?

>>149402163
This. Also he probably had to put down an address when he applied to work at the Planet/Galaxy News. Although I think some stories have him just coming in with a banger story and Perry hiring him on the spot. And Superman the movie has him send his checks to Kansas so who knows how that works.

>>149402201
can you legally adopt a baby you just find

>>149402216
did the comics ever explain it?

>>149402216
Well you can just turn one in to the fire department. Early comics they did try to give Kal-El to an orphanage but either the orphanage couldn't handle a Superbaby or they missed him so badly they ebded up taking him back.

>>149402190
maybe because breaking into another country is illegal and screeching asylum when they nab you doesn't automatically change that.
There's still a legal process for this shit and that's the thing they keep avoiding for some reason.

>>149402216
I had the weirdest discussion in another thread. Sone anon was convinced that you can somehow tell an abandoned baby is foreign and therefore KalEl should have been deported. A baby cannot be an illegal immigrant especially if its parents aren't around.

>>149402225
they either placed him in an orphanage and then returned later to adopt him or say that Martha gave birth to him at home during a harsh winter

>>149402211
I'm remembering a comic I read about Superman paying his taxes, and I'm pretty sure it's adressed that he has already paid his taxes as Clark Kent, which means he has some kind of residence on the books for his secret identity.

>>149401516
It is a specific kind of immigrant just like tomato is a kind of fruit

>>149402216
Bruce Wayne did it three times

>>149402248
>There's still a legal process for this shit that we ignore at will whenever we want to put a few hundred thousand people on a plane to a torture prison or medical experimentation camp

>>149402327
>which we didn't complain about when Obama and Biden were doing the same shit.
stop pretending you actually give a shit

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>>149401429
Well, their interaction with each other was cute.

>>149402327
Are you saying that if someone comes here legally through the long but accepted process, they just, on the flip of a dime, get deported anyway?

>>149402381
Since you seem to care. It is cute and tgis guy acts more like Superman than the rat in the movie.

>>149401367 (OP)
he's not even human, he's an invasive species and doesn't count as an immigrant because he's NOT human, he should be called superkriptonian not superman for he's not a man, it's like calling a male dog or cat a man.

>>149402441
Wait. He flies her here and just leaves her?

>>149402473
Thanks Lex. But ironically when you were the president your stance on border control was so flimsy, that the foreigners just walked in that first year.

>>149402211
He does have an apartment as Clark Kent usually, if not a house.

>>149401466
Yeah you can't exactly say "Well Superman we've decided you don't qualify so we're deporting you."

To fucking where the void where a PLANET was? This isn't like earth and trying to correlate it to them is stupid. Even if a refugee's country get's overthrown and replaced, there's a new country there they probably have some residency claims to that you can put them there. The planet is fucking gone. There's not even chunks to stand on because the chunks somehow turned into super poison for him. He didn't
"Immigrate" as a baby he dodged a goddamn cataclysm.

>>149402571
you know, another good thing to remember is
HE'S NOT FUCKING REAL!

This is stupid. If we saw a guy just flying around and using eyebeams there's be a LOT of interest in who and what he is. people wouldn't just shrug it off because he stopped a bank robber. why are we discussing this shit. We don't use the Giger Alien as a counterpoint do we?

>>149402441
Yeah that's pretty good. I really appreciate those moments of interaction between Superman and Lois. Him showing his humanity and kindness are a key point for the character.

I dunno man, nowadays I am being a sucker for heartwarming scenes more than action ones.

>>149402610
It may not be real but it is fun to speculate on if he was. However this particular talking point is so fucking dumb yet people insist upon it. Keep in mind this same universe has Wonder Woman automatically brush away the immigration talk, by making her the ambassader of the Amazons.

>>149401429
>getting rejected because of a surname
Actually never happened

>>149402571
hypothetically speaking does that mean if someone's whole country gets nuked would that remove their immigrant status?

>>149401725
In the case at hand the safety of other countries is irrelevant. Superman quite literally cannot return to his country. I don't even think any country's immigration laws account for extraterrestrial beings. Do they address that in any of the funny books?

>>149402785
Makes sense to me.

>>149402862
Superman is adopted by Earth. Thats why he gets to live in Antartica

>>149401742
Their governments failed them and there's nothing they could do to improve it on their own. Those countries really don't deserve them. Besides some do come back when they have enough wealth built up in the states.

>>149402690
its fun to speculate, but people acting like its some kind of gotcha are retarded.
>You hate when people break the law, but Batman breaks the law all the time to catch the Joker, Checkmate!

>>149402953
Insert quote from Spider-Man. Literally come here the right way if its that damn important.

>>149402919
So here's a hypothetical situation. Suppose El SuperHombre (secret identity José Rodriguez) came from Juan Kryptonio in a pod with his multiple brothers and sisters. Juan Kryptonio no longer exists, it was blown up. Unlike Superman, El SuperHombre is a bad dude: he rapes and murders women and always has temporary tags on his car. He's a danger to society and would not be accepted like Superman, in fact most people would want him out. Where do you send him? If he's not technically a citizen, can they trap him in one of those floating squares or is that a cruel and unusual punishment?

>>149402996
Nta
>rapes, murders, boosts cars
>where can you send him
To fucking jail?! Another thing is America has a "You don't have to go home but you can't stay here" policy as well, now. So the guy saying Superman can't be booted is wrong.

>>149402785
Nuked as in old-style radioactive ground "Can't walk here without poisoning" nuked? Like, the whole thing, government included?

Well what the fuck else are you going to do to them, huh? Tell them to go home? How? They can't land the fucking planes there. Of course in that case the host country would just keep them because there's literally nothing else they can do. If they had a secondary citizenship, sure, send them elsewhere. If it's just their city that got nuked but there's other chunks of country left? You can send them to the part that isn't just gone. If California gets nuked an american in england can still go to Florida. But if the whole thing is gone end to end? Fucking yeah, guess you live here now because there's literally no alternative and we have no legal means to deal with it.

>>149401367 (OP)
I don't even get why people are trying to push the immigran/refugee narrative when he has no actual memories of Krypton and is just an adopted kid. My Asian friends who were adopted as infants don't go around constantly using the "immigrant" or "refugee" label even if they're objectively applicable to them because they weren't raisedby immigrants/refugees and didn't make a conscious decision to leave their old country.

>>149403008
>boosts cars
No he doesn't steal them, it'a his car. He just never goes to the DMV to register his plate.

>>149402983
To be fair that example is what made Death Note and the Punisher so good. Batman is deputized by GCPD so he can do whatever is necessary to catch the bad guy. But calling Superman an Immigrant for political gotchas is insane to me.

>>149403008
I think Australia just did this with Kanye West. I heard he's not able to stay there with his wife so he's forced to find somewhere else to go.

>>149401367 (OP)
Even if he was an immigrant it wouldn't realy matter because he's a fictional character so if there are real life drawbacks to immigrants or refugees you can just go: "Those didn't happen." and it will work out anyways because it's a made up story. In fact, as long as it doesn't occur to the author that something would happen it just won't happen in the story because that's how fiction works.

>>149402785
We aren't talking about a country. We're talking an entire planet.

>>149402348
ICE has always been a racist paramilitary organization. It was literally created by Jim Crow Laws.

>>149403076
Oh no, don't kick people who broke in back out. That'll break my heart

>>149403100
Nobody "broke in". They returned to their land that the US occupied. This is their native soil, not yours.

>>149403120
If anything, it's wh*toids that should be deported.

>>149403126
yeah, good luck with that.

>>149403126
>lose your land to another country
>lose more and more land until you're nearly genocided
>complain like babies that its still your land despite everyone bending over backwards to make make happy
Fuck em.

>>149401403
>Call me Kal El
Oh fuck off with that shit. He was born and raised as Clark Fucking Kent. The man has no ties to his Kryptonian heritage, sonwhoncares what was carved onto his nuclear powered basinet.

>>149403126
>deport the whites
>nothing left but the brown people who make a place a shithole to begin with
>we gotta refugee ourself to where da white people at

Technically he's an invasive species.

>>149403106
See, this is why they need to be forced out. This isn't theirs, it's ours, and letting them in will just result in them trying to kick us out.

>>149401367 (OP)
>Indian self inserting as the love interest of a buff white himbo
Why is this like the 3rd time this has happened?

>>149401367 (OP)
He's more of a refugee than an immigrant, but in practice he's really neither. He's more like if an American white couple adopted a Polish baby who passes as their biological son and only gets curious about his Polish ascendency once he becomes a teenager. That's completely different to the average refugee experience in America, even those who came here as babies, as they almost always look like foreigners and were raised by other refugees or at the very least by someone from that culture.

>>149401972
Israel was literally founded by immigrants and refugees.

>>149401367 (OP)
wormbrains are really reeing over this, huh? kek

>>149401442
Lois was always supposed to be BIPOC, but a print error made her white passing and Americans internalized white supremacism made them never question it. This little comic is just being truth to the original intent while expanding a bit on it. It's crazy how mfs who cry the most about "wokeness" in comics never know anything about comics.

>>149402225
Superman was from a time and place when a lot of people had kids at home and the government didn't really have any to keep track of you. Hell, you didn't automatically get your SSN at birth until 1987.

>>149401725
The Mexican frontier with America is indeed a crime ridden shit hole, but, while I get that you're joking here, it's frankly funny how so many Americans are convinced the entirety of Mexico is some Mad Max wasteland. Most of Mexico is perfectly fine. Plenty of Mexican cities are safer than American cities. And the Mexicans who move from those cities to the frontier do it precisely because in the frontier there's money to be made from crime. And those who live in the frontier and escape to America instead of a safer Mexican city do it because they openly think Americans are rich retards that deserve to be taken advantage of. They fucking hate you and it's bizarre how Americans worship them and all illegal immigrants.

t. Spic

>>149404277
Uh huh

>>149401367 (OP)
>Superman is a refugee not an immigrant
I mean... aren't refugees immigrants?

>>149401466
And refugees usually also have them too, it's just that they're in war or some shit.

>>149402996
>SuperHombre
Isn't that jus Zod? Someone should make a run where Zod gets depowered and becomes a thug with a pimped car and everything.

>>149404287
Yes, it's just the lex monkeys working overtime

>>149401367 (OP)
>refugee not an immigrant
They're the same thing, dumbass.

>>149402773
Literally happens every job application

>>149401429
Indonesian women are built for Big Mexican Cock.

>>149403024
Plenty of adopted kids will return to their country of origin to seek out their relatives and potentially their birth mother and get more familiar with the culture.

>>149402571
We’re currently deporting people to other countries that are not where they originate from or where they have any relatives and have a language they don’t speak.

>>149404328
That's not even deportation anymore, it's outright human trafficking.

>>149402475
He really is an accurate Superman.

>>149404042
I get the joke but feels odd to have Brainiac there in that context. Superman is already fighting Brainiac and is in full agreement he's a menace, so his camaraderie here feels out of place. Would have been better with some other alien hero in Brainiac's place.

HE'S NOT AN IMMIGRANT HE'S A SETTLER

>>149401442
It bothers me more that she looks like an old woman.

>>149401367 (OP)
>Superman is a refugee not an immigrant.

He's whichever one triggers you the most.

>>149401367 (OP)
Immigrants are people that move from one place to another permanently. That’s the literal definition.

>>149401466
Not always. Immigrant is a larger umbrella term that covers everyone that moves from one country to another. What you’re doing is like saying that the difference between a mammal and a cat is that one often has retractable claws.

Immigration is moving from one country to another. Being a refugee is fleeing from your country to seek refuge someplace else. Also, a LOT of “illegals” are literally refugees in the real world.
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Deportation means to remove someone from your country or territory. It doesn’t specify sending them back to their own country or place of origin.

>>149404622
Setters and colonists are immigrants.

>>149402127
>I didn't mind Scarlet Witch being dark skinned in Marvel Rivals
People like you are the reason they can keep getting away with atrocities like this. Stop making excuses for them or justifying it.

>>149404137
They yearn to be bleached.

>>149401367 (OP)
White liberals think that brown people are like gods coming to save them.

>>149404429
That's not an immigrant/refugee issue, that's an adopted kid issue. A black kid adopted by white parents who does the same thing looking for their birth oarents and trying to fit in with the balck kids isn't an immigrant or a refugee.

>>149401367 (OP)
All Kryptonians should be imprisoned and deported!
Those damn terrorists have attacked our world multiple times!

>>149404578
Brainiac is Kryptonian technology, so he will be deported along with Superman.

>>149404277
>Most of Mexico is perfectly fine
That's a lie! 80% of the candidates die every time there are elections.

>>149401429
So her real name isn't even Liando?

>>149404756
They push the choco brown Jesus myth

>>149401713
Realistically since Superman has no where else to go, if the US wanted to deport him they would just turn him in to the guardians/Lantern Corp since they're the police of the Solar System.

>>149404993
The popular image of Jesus is based on some royal that wanted his own image immortalized and I’m going to point out that how people in a region look today is likely very different from how they looked over 2000 years ago for a variety of very obvious reasons.

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This dreadful, sententious fan comic is actually in continuity. Happens off panel in this issue

>>149405075
In that comic, Superman pointed out that he’s literally an alien and is far beyond human racial BS

>>149402268
>Very white baby. Middle of Kansas (not the US border)
>"Must be some illegal immigrant, I tell you what!"
I'd be more inclined to think it's an after prom mistake.

>>149402348
How dare them take away their tin foil and give them bunk beds. The monsters.

>>149401367 (OP)
Why is superman acting so ....
Zesty
Has he been hitting the pink kypronite

>>149405163
This was written by a poojeeta self inserting as Lois

>>149405139
It doesn't matter if the baby looks white. Its not as if black babies cry in ebonics or Mexican babies cry in Spanish.

>>149401367 (OP)

A refugee is just an immigrant that gets to cut the queue.

>>149404852
But it applies to Superman who had to flee a dying planet and arrived to Earth as a refugee and only was able to learn about his birth of origin culture when he was older

>>149401725
Yes.

>>149401725
Yes, because if we dont thryll turn this country into a crime-ridden shithole, too..

Infact, I'd prefer that they are euthanized rather than deported, since illegals tend to try and re-enter multiple times.

There has never been any controversy over foundlings. Abandoned babies are always assumed to be US citizens, no one has ever had an issue with that.

One of Superman's creators was an immigrant. The connection was always there and always obvious. If you're actually surprised by this then you must be new as fuck.

>But refugees

A refugee is a kind of immigrant. Are you simple?

>>149405566
You're new if you think Siegel and Shuster held the exact same opinions as the Democratic party today.

>>149405071
>The popular image of Jesus is based on some royal that wanted his own image immortalized
No it isn't, that myth refers to Cesare Borgia who lived centuries after the depictions from antiquity where Jesus already pretty much looks the same

>>149405223
Superman didn't flee anything. He was a fucking toddler. He was sent here, without having any input on it himself.
He's a basket bay.

>>149401367 (OP)
Anyone looking at him could sensibly have the impression that he's not a nigger.

Which is what it comes down to, in the end and ultimately.

Don't be not white.

>>149405753
What an odd image. Indians and middle easterners are Caucasian too, but barely anyone would call them white.

>>149401442
Specifically to piss you off. They will continue to do this until you stop giving them the reaction they want.

>>149405693
Semantic little dipshit, aren’t you?

>>149405817
>OMG, cucumbers and bananas has a similar shape, so they're still the same fruit. Stop being so semantic.

>>149405071
Prove it.

>>149402953
>Their governments failed them
That's true about almost every country in the entire world. I don't buy it as an excuse for them bringing their problems somewhere else.

>>149405879
Came to me in a dream

>>149401725
I'd probably just have them liquidated, honestly.

>>149404756
Half the time.
The rest of the time, they think they're pets. Anytime a brown person says something offscript, watch how fast liberals go into racist mode, call them Uncle Toms, House Niggers....

>>149405476
Technically a foundling is only a American citizen till their proved to be from another country.

When Superman was first written there was an exception for people who found out after they were 21 so they were still citizens but that was changed in the 50's or 60's.

>>149405071
Nah, Jesus looks consistently like Jesus.

>>149401367 (OP)
>Superman is a refugee not an immigrant.
What's the diff? /pol/ hates either one.

>Stop forcing him into this weird box to fit with your narrative.
Irony, thy name is OP.

>>149401598
>Lex admits to breaking and entering the Fortress
They let you do it if you're a wealthy CEO.

>Superman never once considers asking the FUCKING INTERGALACTIC SPACE COP to translate the message
Kryptonian is a dead language. Guy doesn't speak Kryptonian. Why would they ask him?

>US government puts the man who injects people with nanomachines for fun and has ahabit of kidnapping ex gurlfriends in charge of catching and jailing Superman based on nothing whatsoever
Again, wealthy CEO.

>>149404287
No. There's overlap though. You can be a refugee without leaving your country of origin. This is mostly a linguistic game, trying to conflate legal immigration, illegal immigration, temporary visitor status, people moving for economic advantages.

Immigrant covers the state of moving, generally for a long period, regardless of status or purpose. It covers Superman who involuntarily was launched here on a rocket as well as people trafficed by criminals, drug mules, and child prostitutes.


>>149406916
Why do you give a fuck what pol thinks?

>>149405817
Intent matters anon.

>>149404437
Yes. Most countries will do this.

>>149406781
Which has resulted in a LOT of abandoned babies at safe surrender sites near the US mexico border. Field goal anchor babies.

>>149402175
Their shrodinger's shithole.

>>149407211
>Why do you give a fuck what pol thinks?

I don't, but they'll always be trolling the next Superman thread posting VERY LOUDLY what they think.

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>>149406215
You're black and this is the cope blacks use to cope with the fact that caucasoids dominated at least in fairly large numbers all the way down to the Egyptian kingdoms especially by the time of Christs birth, meaning he was undeniably white/caucasoid.

>>149407099
>Cope
>his Ring translates alien languages all the time
>Again, cope

>>149401367 (OP)
>Ms. Lane
Stopped reading right there

>>149407268
An anchor baby is them saying the baby was born here.

A Foundling has no parents claiming them.

>>149402571
There's really only two responses if they try it.
1) "Good luck with that. Feel free to try and stop me doing whatever I want."
2) UN Bidding War spontaneously occurs as countries offer Superman anything they think he might want to move to them and be the greatest deterrent the world has ever seen.

>>149407329
You're fucking a white male

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>>149401442
that's Lois? What the fuck?

>>149401466
I dont think the people marching through streets and chanting
>WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK
Care much

>>149404993
Those all look the same

>>149408124
No usually gay people slide towards being pro Black Jesus.