Thread 149402505

>make a book with Spider-Man married to Mary Jane Watson
>breaks sales records
>outsells ASM almost every month outside of #1's, scheduling shenanigans where USM comes out on the 30th, and anniversary issues
>first marvel book since *checks notes* Slott's ASM that could go to triple digits
>sorry, you only get 24 issues, I guess nobody wants Spider-Man married to Mary Jane Watson

>>149402505 (OP)
Did they ever actually confirm it was only going for 24 issues or was that just rumor?

>>149402527
OP is baiting, the 24 issues are to chronicle the 24 months left before the Maker breaks out of containment, the books will continue past that but drop the real-time gimmick which is good news

>>149402505 (OP)
Too bad it's completely boring. ASM must be absolutely horrendous.

>>149402505 (OP)
Good, it doesn't deserve to continue. Even Bendis had more restrain before introducing more spider-men

/co/ shows how bad taste it has by once again falling for Hickman slop

>>149402505 (OP)
They're not going to fridge the entire Ultimate line after 24 issues, retard. It's a renumbering or similar gimmick for post-Maker Ultimate U.

>>149403078
It's just kind of meh. Not the worst thing ever, but fan trust is basically ashes after Wells run.
Basically the opposite of Ultimate, which is mostly just okay but people are so burned out of Amazing that a kind of okay Spidey is automatically a best seller.

>>149403512
I don't know. To me, boring is as bad as it gets. If it's really bad, it's easy to drop or laugh at.

>>149402984
I actually liked the real time gimmick..... Felt like the world outside my window.

>>149402505 (OP)
Spider-Man is barely even in it.

>>149402527
Literally just a rumor spread by Zack Davisson, which a Polish pedophile has been obsessing over. It's already confirmed continuing past 24 issues months ago.

>>149404335
Nah, at max I see a relaunch. As much Mary Jane can carry the book, people still wanted to see spider-man fight villains in a new setting but it's all amounts to boring speeches, which is typical for hickman I guess. And no one wanted to see his kid become spider-man and steal the book too

>>149404683
was it ever uploaded

>>149404141
it wasn't used well, a lot of times the storylines felt unfinished and in the next issue they'd be offscreened or whatever. Ultimates used it best but it wasn't enough
>>149404367
Mary Jane is barely in the book, the marriage angle is appealing and all but USM is clearly less about Spider-Man and more about New York and Harry's actions, Peter is just our POV for it all

>>149404842
>USM is clearly less about Spider-Man and more about New York and Harry's actions, Peter is just our POV for it all
It works though because Peter doesn't seem ready to topple the S.S

>>149402505 (OP)
Incursion ruined it
Miles will infest the series after #24

>>149404946
Its funny how the last issue had Miles being a little bitch that kept whining to the people who were helping him.
Lets not forget it was more about Hank than Miles too.

>>149404683
>skim issue on RCO
>every single page is just Peter narrating that his powers are making him grow or something
>that's literally the entire comic
>also there's a celebrity cameo with Jonah for some reason or something
I knew the digital only comics were shit but I didn't expect something that bad

>>149404915
correct, and I'm not exactly bothered by that, but I can understand if people are disappointed and feel like it's a Green Lantern book. because of decompression and the real-time gimmick every issue does capitalize on the storyline enough and always ends up feeling inadequate unless read in trade

>USM flops
>See, nobody wants to see married Peter Parker
>USM is mediocre
>See, barely anyone wants to see married Peter Parker
>USM succeeds
>See, you got your married Peter Parker. No changes needed

>>149402984
>>149404141
My guess is they want it to lead to an event where Maker tries corralling the Ultimate universe together to fight against the One World Under Doom universe

>>149405300
>Secret Wars... which one are we on now?

Hickman wasn't going to stay on the book forever, and the last time they ran a story of his into the ground long past when he wanted to end it, a lot of people were disappointed.

>>149405455
yeah, that's how I feel this is going to go too. he set up a new world with a clean slate where they could do a lot of new and unique things but they'll just end up shitting on everything.
likely have some event where they go back to 1610 since that seems to be the next stop in a few years.

>>149404809
this is what i want to know

>>149405968
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Astonishing-Spider-Man-Infinity-Comic/Issue-34?id=239960#1

>>149405968
yes, mj panel is not even addressed so not even worth a download. And spider-man ask who eternity and infinity is? Didn't he already met them? Been a while since I read infinity saga

>>149405269
This. They've stood by OMD for this damn long, they're not going to be giving it up with an entire shift in editorial

>>149402505 (OP)
>>sorry, you only get 24 issues
And Spider-man will be in about 60% of them.

>>149404946
>>149404995
Miles is fucking off back to 616 after Incursion.

>>149406142
>an issue with Ben and Jonah screwing around is still better than anything Nick Lowe could ever fart out
>it sells better too

>>149406154
No you can keep him and spider-gwen too. 616 bros suffer enough

>thinking they’re going to stop at 24 when every issue that’s a multiple of 25 automatically sells better because of the retarded speculators
That’s how you know Gwenschizo isn’t just a liar… he’s also a huge retard…

>>149405416
>Implying they wouldn't call it "World War III"

>>149406198
Anyone who’s still reading 616 gets what they deserve. You guys already have a True and Honest Gwen Stacy from now on: Spider-Gwen!

>>149406253
I'm not reading it currently but hearing this kinda news still hurts

>>149406253
>>149402505 (OP)
A Polish child molester scratches his ear with his hind leg like a dog in confusion while going “HURR! A DURR DURR! WHY DA HICKMAN COMIC SELL BETTER? WHY 616 A FAILURE? WHY PAUL RABIN NOT RAPE DYLAN BROCK?”

>>149406333
can you and gwenschizo go date already and leave us the hell alone?

>>149406580
>um sweetie don’t you realize that if you make fun of him, you’re actually just as bad as him???
No, for some reason that never occurred to me at all.

>>149406333
Well, honestly, I prefer "boring comics" over "Pathetic comics".

By the way, can you please post spoilers about the whole issue?

>>149406333
What happened in this comic, please?

>>149406333
>Yeah, you settling down with a girl is boring
>Putting you into gimmick suits, have you go through shitty story arcs without consequences and then relearning all you already know. All of that for 20 years.
>Now, that's the shit!

>>149407474
it’s totally way more exciting and interesting to see Peter with Shay and MJ with Paul! Just pair up your actually interesting people with the most dull and tedious motherfuckers on earth! That’s how you keep it fresh!

>>149407880
Tbh quite honest, I feel like the seed were sown when Spider-man got the suit in secret wars.
But goddamn, the editorial team just went and stopped giving a fuck about quality. We need the Gordon Ramsay of comic book to unfuck this situation, but alas he doesn't exist.

>>149402505 (OP)
>>outsells ASM almost every month
Didn't do it last month.

>>149403078
For ASM they have already confirmed that they are going to split Peter into two guys because they want to do cosmic Spider-Man adventures but also have so little confidence in the idea that they feel the need to still have city level stories.

Just incredibly bad as multiple level right out of the gate.

>>149402984
>OP is baiting, the 24 issues are to chronicle the 24 months left before the Maker breaks out of containment, the books will continue past that but drop the real-time gimmick which is good news
Wrong dead wrong retard the book wil end with number 24 and then get restarted and in this new series you wil get a new version of spider-man with no ties to the previous one.

>>149406098
Well that's coming down the line whether they want to or not

Iger's been hinting that he's folding Marvel more into Disney, which is both good and bad

>>149408228
In addition to this the release date of issue 19 has been delayed to July 30, 2025 orginally it was planned to come out on July 23, 2025. why delay it unless sales of it are beginning to drop?

>>149402505 (OP)
Spencer's asm also got really strong sales, 6 printings.

>>149408528
If this doesn't happen are you going to livestream your suicide from the Polish steppes?

>>149408677
it was the run that gave people some hope

>>149408694
Reminder that spam only gets one in trouble that means you wiseguy.

>>149408641
You really can't think of other reasons why a book would be delayed, huh

>>149408716
Go ahead and report me for spam, since you apparently don't know the meaning of the word. You didn't answer my question though, when the thing you said would happen doesn't actually happen, what are you going to do?

>>149408764
Being off topic AND spamming makes you look twice as dumb GET THE FUCK OFF THIS BOARD.

>>149408788
Who do you think is better, Larsen or Bagley? I'm a Larsen guy myself, I'm really fond of his anatomy.

>>149408875
I don't care for either and I stopped carring about spider-man when OMD. happened And speaking of mephisto the day may come when he offers USM a deal also.

>>149408966
I don't think you read Spider-Man comics in general to begin with

>>149402984
That would mean usm ends first and ultimates end last?

>>149408228
>>149408641
It came out in the last week of July, the ICV2 monthly lists look only at total sales for that window. ASM coming out three weeks earlier means it had an additional three weeks of sales on the chart.

Look at the Bleeding Cool weekly charts. Any time ASM and USM comes out the same week, USM never fails to outrank it.

>>149408993
My dear anon just because you have not seen mephisto yet that does not mean he will not show up at some point. You seem to forget that marvel hates spider-man and thus they are hellbent on destroying him. Once hickman leaves the book they will begin to crap on him hard. So yeah I have no doubt mephisto will eventually show up. But here is the catch the deal he will make will be with richard not peter.

>>149409148
And when that doesn't happen in the comic what will you do?

How the fuck do I get banned for retarded reasons like the mod not thinking that a Spider-Man 2 plot point is "of western origin", but the Polish fucking faggot is still melting down?
Fucking how?

>>149409244
He's their pet.

>>149409120
There was also a second ASM issue out that month, that was out a week before USM, that USM did better than.

>>149409092
If you believe his bullshit line that means Ultimate Wolverine is continuing a year and a half to finally also hit issue 24, by itself, supposedly after every other ultimate book ends.

He’s retarded and he can’t count. Polish people still burn mathematicians as sorcerers and witches.

>>149409148
They already mentioned in Ultimates that Mephisto was vaporized out of that reality by the Ultimate Nullifier. You’d know this if you read comics, but all you do is stare at the pretty pictures!

>>149402984
I really hope they do drop the real-time gimmick
Feels like an active detriment to the story telling.

>>149408277
So Clone Saga...like, 4 or 5?

>>149409277
I’m pretty sure he just ban evades via a paid VPN. He’s been banned before and then just shows up 45 minutes later acting as if nothing happened.

This Polish guy pays actual money to post here.

>>149409409
NTA but that's from the now destroyed future, we have no idea of how timelines that phase in and out of potentiality affect demons.

>>149409409
I Meant the 616 mephisto also it hardly matters the ultimate version was vaporized they are OTHER verions of him at any rate one of them is bound to show up.

>>149409431
They’re dropping it after the crossover event, yeah. And given they announced that, it means the current creative teams are continuing past the 24 issues.

The Polish guy doesn’t get that because he can’t count to 24. Not enough fingers or toes. 23 is the best that centuries if sustained inbreeding in his home country can get him to.

>>149409160
Oh But he will anon marvel just can't stop destroying spider-man they get so much joy out of it. So it really is a matter of time,

>>149402505 (OP)
Dang

>>149409454
You didn’t mean that at all, I tricked you, as this anon points out >>149409450

You could have just as easily said “that’s from a destroyed future” and made me look stupid, but you didn’t do that. Because you don’t read the comics and you have no idea what’s going on. You never have anything to discuss. You’re going to pretend that you always knew this and that you were “only trolling” when you got it wrong the first time because that’s the only trick you have left. You’re retarded and that’s very funny to me.

>>149402505 (OP)
So you are saying ASM should get more #1 and anniversary issues?

>>149409496
>You could have just as easily said “that’s from a destroyed future” a
Oh and tell how do you know that's not what I meant maybe I am the one testing you.

>>149409496
>>149409454

Why does Gwenschizo post on an English speaking comics board when he doesn’t speak English?

Why does Gwenschizo post on an English speaking comics board when he can’t even read the comics?

He throws away hours of his life and pays money for a VPN subscription to come here despite having no idea what we’re saying, having no idea what he’s saying, and hoping his translation app doesn’t post another confession that he’s a pedophile. Friend of the moderators or not, I think he should be banned on sight and have all his posts deleted every time he posts just as a form of euthanasia. This Polish child rape guy will have a healthier and happier life because of it. I think the admins should do the needful.

>>149409589
How does your translation app not know what a period is? How do YOU not know what a period is? A period works the same way in both english and polish, you utter chode.

>>149409589
Why do you come here when you don’t speak English and never read or talk about the comics?

>>149409589
The fact that he keeps on mangling people’s quotes whenever he greentexts is funny to me because it’s more proof he doesn’t speak English, but he isn’t smart enough to understand that his app is also trying to correct any real or imagined grammar errors, so he always ends up quoting stuff that his app just never bothers translating to him. So it always just looks like he copies two thirds of your argument verbatim and then stops right there.

>>149409610
>>149409628
This conversation is now terminated I have no more time to waste on the likes of such a idiot like you goodbye.

Honestly I don't give a fuck whether Peter is married or not. All the alternate spider-people running around and constantly making Spider-man into a retarded pussy in his own book is more damaging to the character than his love life being written by balding fat men.
Don't get me wrong I think OMD is retarded but current year Spider-man would actually be good if it was written and drawn by the USM team, even with most of the same story beats. USM Peter actually feels like the same character as '60s Peter, just a bit more mellowed and a bit dumber out since he's gotten a lot of redhead pussy.

>>149409679
Ah, the Polish pedophile loses and I win yet again.

>>149409713
No you don't.

>>149409679
Damn, Gwenschizo’s a real bitchmade faggot.

>>149409724
Przestań tu przychodzić. Oni tylko się z ciebie śmieją i nazywają pedofilem.

>>149409724
I tricked you again! You replied to me even though you said you were done with this, making you look like an even bigger and easily trolled moron!

>>149409760
Sorry bro, he’s never going to leave. He has nothing else going on in his life. Condolences for having to put up with this stain on your country. I don’t actually hate Polish people, I just like saying awful things in general.

>>149409689
I liked that scene where he almost KO Kraven and he is like "You thought you could defeat me? With guns?". Also, raptor riding.

>>149409850
It was really funny to me that “your Spider-Sense didn’t go off because I was aiming at Harry!” thing was total bullshit, and actually Gwen just wanted to fake Harry’s death and then kill Kraven herself. Also that, apparently, Kraven is so bitchmade that even when he’s armed with a gun Peter’s Chad Spider-Sense can’t register the nigga as a threat.

Pretty much the only guy to fall for it and buy the whole thing hook, line, and sinker here was that “Gwenschizo” guy, come to think of it…

>>149409689
The marriage being gone would have gone a lot smoother if it wasn’t followed by humiliation to the character and editors ridiculing people

>>149409917
*yawn* That doesn't even looks and feel like kraven, we used to laugh at Bendis' parodies of villains why is it okay now? I feel like the standards are going down and down

>>149409917
The fact that he was trolled by a Mysterio that is also Gwen was really great too. It’s like Hickman wanted to remind him of his past sins. His “sins past” as it were.

I have no idea how funny that joke will read in Polish after his app mangles it, and that’s the really tragic thing about him. He’ll never truly understand how much he’s being made fun of.

>>149409985
>Bendis Kraven
At least the death of Hickman’s Kraven had pathos and he actually killed him off once he served his purpose. That takes actual balls.

Bendis Kraven lingered like a bad smell. Same with his Shocker. If he doesn’t like them and thinks they’re useless, then why keep them around?

>>149410057
>>149409985
It’s like the dudes who wax nostalgic over Bendis never actually read any of it. Not reading comics but still trying and failing to talk about them is very Polish behavior…

>>149410057
On one hand, I really like the post-Raimi glass lenses on any Spider-Man mask. I just think they're cool.
But holy shit, that's one derpy-looking Spider-Man. No wonder he spends most of that story out of the mask, lmao.
t. read Ultimate War decades ago, mostly forgotten about it.

>>149410057
>>149409917
Honestly making Kraven’s first hunt his last was a pretty good “shock value” death, and definitely more believable than just killing off Harry without warning while his arc was still ongoing. Honestly the guy should have stayed dead after Kraven’s Last Hunt. I think 616 Kraven is a clone now, but nobody acknowledges that because they want to pretend?

>>149410164
Grim Hunt was a mistake

>>149409917
Apparently, Chechetto envisioned Kraven as a junkie addict to the potion that give him his superhuman abilities. It sadly didn't make it in the story.

>>149409713
>>149409738
>>149409781
>>149409760
>>149409781
к чёpтy!

>>149410183
くたばれ

>>149402505 (OP)
Хyй тeбe!

>>149410186
Kraven has an extended family in 616, and unlike 616 Kraven the 6160 version isn’t weighed down by MUH LEGACY because we barely knew the guy, so replacing him with Ana or Vladimir Kravinoff is actually doable.

Or bring him back as a zombie or something with the Savage Land as a justification. You know, whatever!

>>149410183
Lost Hunt can stay, though. The key there is that they didn’t resurrect Kraven in that one and left him as a legacy villain instead. It’s what ought to have happened to Norman Osborn too, and honestly I’m all for STARTING the story with Stormin’ Norman as a digital ghost haunting Harry.

>>149410086
I hated when it swapped to that art style. Everyone looked awful

>>149410191
>>149410214
>>149410268
Careful, Gwenschizo. You’re now posting in languages that actual humans speak, now, and mangling them too.

>>149410271
Making Felicia a half-black gender swapped legacy villain for Walter Hardy was actually a really funny idea, it worked out well with her being a love interest/nemesis for Peter’s son, and was pretty much 4D chess and also resulted in a really funny copypasta.

That was extremely based!

>>149410096
The art for Ultimate Six was really bad and I vaguely recall that Quesada ended up apologizing for it.
>>149410271
Lost Hunt was terrible, JMD completely forgot what Gregor was like as a character.

>>149410330
>Careful, Gwenschizo. You’re now posting in languages that actual humans speak, now, and mangling them too.
地獄に堕ちろ"

>>149410330
>…That was EXTREMELY based!

>>149410364
>Paul WILL rape Dylan Brock
What the hell, Gwenschizo. Why would you even say that?

>>149410271
Lost Hunt can stay. Grim Hunt is such a fuckup that I can't believe there were people praising it back in the day. Gets rid of a lot of characters to fucking resurrect Kraven and not really use him in anything that justifies it subsequently after

>>149410421
But what else can we expect from an illiterate like Joe Kelly, am I right folks?

>>149410364
>>149410409
Damn, why are Paul fans so obsessed with having Eddie Brock’s son raped? And why by Paul specifically? Sick, strange people.

Imagine if Ultimate Felicia become Scorpion while Richard become frogman

>>149410462
maldito idiota

What's with gwenpedo spamming in faggy languages?
I had bans on /a/ for meme thread where I used K-On's images with lyrics of German bands because it wasn't "English language".
Fuck these two-faced mods, seriously.

>>149410448
Kelly's a fine writer. Grim Hunt was editorially mandated, nothing you do with event stories like those.

>>149410543
He fucked up and posted a single " which means he's copypasting this from a chatgpt answer. He's so incompetent that he can't even use basic google translate, he has to ask a robot to do it for him.

>>149405079
>his powers are making him grow or something
His dick is getting bigger?

>>149409432
People assume that they aren't actually "splitting Peter" but instead the Spider-Man left on earth will be Ben trying to take over Peter's life, just to rub salt in that particular wound

>>149411918
Yeah I figure its Ben or Kaine since it said he was being more violent so the Avengers want to find out who he is(thank you Marble for the 13yrs too late overcorrection)

>>149410506
Ah, past kiddo’s bedtime. See you tomorrow, Gwenschizo. Not like you’ve got anything else going on.

>>149406677
Actually yeah you are as bad as him. You keep fucking baiting the freak even when he's not around because at the end of the day you're the same type, you LOVE the attention then you get even if it's just from Gwenschizo then you have the unmitigated gall to pissy when others hate you as much as him