>This will never be released with the Skydance/Paramount mergers

Robyn Bird won

Is it lost media then? How many episodes were finished?

Not that I'm interested in actually watching them.

>>149409095 (OP)
>Robyn Bird
literally who?

>>149409095 (OP)

>Ordered in 2020
>The entire animation industry tells Paramount that this is a shitty idea
>Spumtards seethe at the animators and creators bashing the reboot
>reboot gets a whole creative overhaul by firing Bob Camp and his team and hiring writters for a art-driven show
>release gets halted due strikes
>reboot leaks in 4chan and surprise is shit
>release date still on the air despite the show being finished for a year

Honestly this is funny

>>149409095 (OP)
Who cares, this reboot is shit, the expressions and animation looks fine, but that’s just the problem, the characters expressions don’t look pushed enough. Of all the shows to have an animation downgrade in their reboots/revivals Ren & Stimpy is the one that needs it the least seeing how its whole identity was how it made its characters extremely expressive. They turned the show into pure writer driven slop, worse than Adult Party Cartoon.

>>149409095 (OP)
>Be Robin Byrd.
>Join this reboot to get back at your monstrous and evil ex.
>The show gets leaked and everyone even animation Twitter hates it.
>Show only aired in France and nobody cared.
>Thrown under the rug and canceled and only is being used for gifs.
All that for nothing.

>>149409119

The first half i think

>>149409095 (OP)
>terrible dogshit reboot gets leaked and barely makes a splash
>at the very least it isn’t lost media
>we are all spared of having to pay attention to this reboot with the added benefit of it still being available for those curious enough to see it
We all win, I wish this is what happened with Coyote v Acme

>>149409255
>says the pedo tranny who avatarfags as little girls from toddler anime

>>149409315
It's just a normal reaction image, doesn't mean he's a pedo or a tranny just because he used a little girl for it. Do you recognize the filename or something? Is he a known poster on /co/? I don't get why you'd make a big deal out of it.

>>149409357
>Birchy includes reaction image of his boyfriend Famicoms favorite anime child that he likes to rape

We know it’s you, faggot

>>149409453
So now I'm someone named Birchy because I used a reaction image. Anon, you need to chill out.

>>149409478
Hey Birchy didn’t you once spam CP on Discord? No wonder your homosexual lover Famicom loves you, it’s only a matter of time before the FBI comes after you for CP ownership, the only person you’re gonna be dickriding there is a big black man in the prison shower.

>>149409453
Anon are you gonna talk about the Ren and Stimpy reboot or is this gonna be the "Spumschizo funny hour" all I'm gonna ask is keep your retarded autism out of the thread.

>>149409517
Homophobia isn't cool. I have a boyfriend but he's not "Famicom."
>Hey Birchy didn’t you once spam CP on Discord?
I never did that because I'm not Birchy. If this Birchy guy did do that, he should be locked away.

>>149409517
Anon if he did then report it instead of talking about it online, if not then shut up. You're just as bad as the people you cry about.
Everytime I come in these threads it's either people complaining about Guy or complaining about Beanmouth or faggots like you crying about namefags who I'm 99 percent you made up for autism reasons.
Stay on topic for once and leave the autism outside.

>>149409528
lol you’re a faggot

>>149409566
Yes, and I'm not ashamed of it. My boyfriend loves me deeply.

>>149409453
>>149409517
People like you are the reason I regret ever being spumpilled because you can't make one thread without something going wrong. Who cares about a namefag and if they avatarfagged or not, Hitler isn't coming back because 2 autists dared to use random anime girls as avatars, piss off you genuine schizo. At least tell us your thoughts on the reboot before you throw your brain directly into the garbage disposal.

>>149409592
I already said my thoughts, retard
>>149409238

Also lmao at >>149409576
imagine saying "homophobia isn’t cool" on 4Chan of all places, keep making yourself look like a retard Birchy. Oh well it’s better to be gay than a chomo

>>149409592
Not him (I'm >>149409357), but I tried watching the first leaked episodes of the reboot and it was genuinely hard to sit through them. The one where Ren becomes the devil was better but still weak.

Nicest thing I can say about the show is that some of the artists clearly have some talent and worked hard, even if the art was ultimately boring in the final production compared to the original show and Adult Party Cartoon.

>>149409613
>imagine saying "homophobia isn’t cool" on 4Chan of all places
I can imagine it easily. You realize this place is anonymous, right? Why would I be uncomfortable saying literally anything?

You worry too much about peer pressure and what people think, even in anonymous imageboards. Perhaps this is why you're obsessed with meaningless drama over namefags. I suggest you chill out and be more confident in your own skin.

>>149409621
Finally and actual conversation, and it's from Famicom of all people, but I'll take what I can get.

>Nicest thing I can say about the show is that some of the artists clearly have some talent and worked hard
Dylan King pretty much carried the whole shows artstyle.
>>149409636
He could've at least used Birchy's signature Doremi avatarfagging or the "like damn" bit in >>149409576 and good luck trying it now because now I'm on alert. I'm still friends with Birchy for some reason so all I'll have to do is send a screenshot of this thread and ask him if what this guy is saying about him is true lol
Anyways just shut up about it in the future, I don't mind you doing it in the Tiny Toons threads but leave the Ren and Stimpy threads alone.

>>149409687
I hope Dylan gets somewhere after this. He didn't deserve to work on this piece of shit. Also do you think Robyn was exclusively to blame for the reboot sucking?

>>149409687
>I’m still friends with Birchy

Imagine being friends with a pedo who sent CP on Discord, retard

>>149409095 (OP)
The least they could’ve done was bring Jim Smith back, and now he’s dead

>>149409717
Did you report him on discord?

>>149409749
Its a well-known fact among Birchy detractors on /co/, according to them Birchy openly admitted to doing it

>>149409739
I didn't know Jim Smith died, that sucks. Rest in peace.

>>149409453
Drawings aren't people

>>149409717
You got proof he did? Because I can say Birchy fucked all of the sheep in Pakistan.
Birchy caused the great 2002 Dongting flood which caused the death of 600k people.
Seems like you just don't like the guy and are just saying awful things about him that probably aren't true.
>>149409764
And where are these detractors?

>>149409766
RIP.
He was a good one.
>>149409783
Birchy caused the 2011 Tohoku earthquake.

>>149409783
> you just don't like the guy and are just saying awful things about him that probably aren't true
Why are you defending Birchy?

>>149409783
>>149409797
birchy caused the 2007 shanghai stock crash

>>149409778
Oh here we go with this shit argument again, I’m not even gonna repeat myself I’m just gonna copy paste why this argument is retarded

Jerking off to cartoon kiddie porn makes you a pedo, same way that jerking off to cartoon gay porn makes you gay, it doesn’t matter that they’re drawings, it matters what you’re attracted to. You retards claim that "duhhh that’s like saying video games cause violence" but here’s the thing, the difference is that most people who play violent games don’t want to kill irl and just do it for fun or gameplay purposes, porn is an arousing experience that shows one’s sexual preference, I jerk off to chubby cartoon milfs cause I want to fuck one irl, I jerk off to face sitting cause I want to experience it irl, if you jerk off to cartoon kids you want to fuck kids irl, pedo.

Need I also repeat a list of some of the open lolicons on the internet?

TheWhiteBowser, defended Lolicon on stream, revealed to be a groomer who groped an underage coworker

Thaddeus McMichael, admitted to liking lolis and shotas, caught with real child porn

YandereDev, had tons of loli-loving tendencies and made a game sexualizing high schoolers, revealed to be a groomer

Need I also bring up Shadman? The most well known Lolicon on the internet, who has sexualized and drew porn of real life children on various occasions, if you don’t see a problem with that you’re a retard.

You retards claim that they’re just a "few bad apples in the bunch", really? Name one well-known person on the internet who gets off to loli porn, not a lolcow, a normal fucking person, exactly, they’re all degenerate low IQ pedos.

>>149409823
I'm not and I don't care. I came here to talk about a cartoon with a retarded cat and a Mexican chihuahua.

It should be no surprise to my more-informed viewers that the topic of my discussions would eventually fall to the well-established artform of eroge (known to laymen as "hentai vidcons", though this is a false moniker as the vidcons deal with far more than mere hentai). Much-beloved in the East, these games are sadly, and one might even say expectedly, decried in the West as bastions of perversion and pedophilia for portraying extremely young girls in erotic situations. A person who looks at pictures of fictional little girls isn't necessarily sexually attracted to them. What if (s)he finds them cute? Despite the obvious flaws in the anti-eroge constituency, they continue to claim that eroge are sad, cartoon versions of sex for manchildren that promote rape, pedophilia, and abuse towards women. The logic used seems quite silly, because then people who enjoy killing or raping in games would be classified as murderers/rapists in real life. Come on. It's a fantasy, it's inside your head. Get educated. I recommend Kana: Little Sister, Rape Academy 2, or Crescendo to start with.

>>149409856
You're not wrong about lolicon being creepy and the people into it being suspect, but let's drop it and talk R&S.

>>149409856
>He says this while in a John K thread.
>But but you see these other people who liked Loli where freaks too
So you're gonna classify 10s if not 100s of millions of people as pedos because of what 5 or 6 people did? Well with that logic everyone on your side are pedos too because Diddy and EDP445 are free and out on the streets not to mention the DR Pizza and the countless of people who've spoken out against loli and have been outed as freaks themselves.
And also you're a Ren and Stimpy fan so your point has no standing because you're supporting groomers.
>But the Bob Camp episodes.
Still supporting grooming, you might as well go punch Katie Rice in her face and tell her she deserved it and that she deserves to get groped like a slut.

>>149409903
What would APC have been like if Bob Camp was in charge?
>>149409921
>you might as well go punch Katie Rice in her face and tell her she deserved it and that she deserves to get groped like a slut
Fucking hate myself for laughing and imagining that in the Spumco artstyle, some artist out there should unironically draw that for funzies

Birchy did 9/11 and raped my mailman

>>149409856
Nobody cares bout your faggotry

>>149409903
Fag

>>149409921
Why can’t Spumco seethers learn how to separate art from the artist? You’re shitting on one of the most influential cartoons of the 90’s that was loved by everyone. Mind as well claim that loving Disney is supporting anti-semitism cause Walt Disney was an anti-Semite.

The truth is that many talented animators in the animation industry unfortunately have skeletons in their closet and it’s important to view one’s work as its own thing.

>>149409951
>What would APC have been like if Bob Camp was in charge?
The episodes probably would've been games quality, and it probably would've had cheaper animation, probably just last season Ren and Stimpy but even more stiff and it would've had a full season too.
>>149409989
Birchy caused the 1965 Communist purge in Indonesia.

>>149409989
Based

>>149410034
>You’re shitting on one of the most influential cartoons of the 90’s that was loved by everyone.
You're starting to sound like Famicom oh no Anon, also newsflash dipshit normies don't remember Ren and Stimpy, if they did this mediocre reboot would've done numbers and it didn't even get to air due to the negative backlash.
Are you Guy by any chance because you're giving me similar vibes.
I'm not saying it wasn't influential, but there were a bajillion other factors too.

>>149410079
I don't agree with you, but I'll overlook it.

Okay now back on topic if they had kept the original plans for the reboot and never hired Robyn would the reboot have been good or would've it been the same?

All those deleted posts, lmao.

>>149409095 (OP)

>>149409951
>What would APC have been like if Bob Camp was in charge?
Basically just the Games episodes with the S&P restrictions lifted. Though I'm sure the actual jokes would be more substantial than just Ren and Stimpy having sex or eating shit.

Now what would APC have been like if it was done at Nickelodeon instead?

>>149409710
Robin literally joined the reboot just so she could ruin it, typical woman activities.
Exactly like I said in >>149409255
>>149409300
Crazy people cried enough to get it released on streaming.
>>149409710
Dylan's that one guy with the Stimpy OC right? I always liked his work. Him and Pinkie Davis are the only ones carrying cartoony animation on their backs.
>>149410130
I don't even wanna know, these threads usually get very spicy. I just refreshed the page and seen a lot of people replying to dead replies and I don't wanna know what that was about.

>>149410181
>>149410181
>Now what would APC have been like if it was done at Nickelodeon instead?
I think it would've been completely different if the show were revived on Nick. Spike TV was pushing things to be "adult" and it was for the worst. They wanted to compete with Adult Swim but didn't understand why people liked Adult Swim humor.

A nick revival might've been more like the original seasons, just with the early 2000s Spumco style.

>>149410224
>Crazy people cried enough to get it released on streaming
Crazy how that's worked a few times, didn't Deadpool get uncanceled because people saw leaked footage?
>Him and Pinkie Davis are the only ones carrying cartoony animation on their backs.
Any updates on that adult show she's doing for FOX?

>>149410267
>A nick revival might've been more like the original seasons, just with the early 2000s Spumco style.
So instead of Ripping Friends there would've been another Ren and Stimpy season in an alternate universe with John back in charge. That would've been interesting.

>>149409095 (OP)
I keep forgetting the reboot even exists

>>149410224
>I don't wanna know what that was about.
I'll spare you the horror.
>>149410321
A lot of people do Anon, I only remember whenever Spumdonor brings it up. It's a poorly written and mostly poorly animated attempt at a revival, not to mention the entire thing just feels like it was meant to piss the audience off as humanly possible. You can see heart and soul shine through but it's held back by the writing and the mediocre animation.
It's a case of "why did they even bother"

>>149410267
It still gets canned after three episodes because John can't meet a deadline with his life.

>>149410375
Yeah it would've been handed off to Butch Hartman or some artist that could replicate the style in the 2000s.

>>149410386
>Butch Hartman Ren and Stimpy
>Ren: This day couldn't get any worse
>Giant cow falls on top of Ren

>>149410386
>>149410441
Butch would've wrote an episode about a Yak razor or some shit.

>>149410386
>>149410441
>>149410486
I don't know how I would feel if Butch did Ren and Stimpy in the 2000s maybe if this was 90s Butch when he was at HB then maybe?

>>149409095 (OP)
>The reboot might be the last Ren and Stimpy series we're getting.

>>149410634
They should just never release it in the US so that when the animation industry eventually gets out of its current slump they can give the show a proper reboot with a proper budget and just ignore this ones existence.

>>149410663
Thing is I don't think Paramount is willing to risk it again, they're already bleeding heavily with debt and with them also being sued it's gonna be uncertain what the franchise will be. They should just sell it back to John at this point, or do a joint custody thing with him and Bob Camp. Where both can make their own versions but only with certain characters. John's version can have Mr Horse and George Liquor in them and Bob's version can have Powdered Toast Man and the others.

>>149410663
>They should just never release it in the US
If I remember correctly that was close to their actual plan, they were going to release it worldwide and the US was going to be one of the last countries to get it aired. But when the episodes were leaked and pretty much everyone shat on them, Paramout pulled the plug. I think Latin America already had announced it and they even scheduled it on Comedy Central like 2 weeks before it was shelved.

>>149410783
Man you know it's bad when even the Hispanics don't want it. And they had the superior dub of APC.

>>149409095 (OP)
>Skydance/Paramount merger
So all the entertainment industry will just marry each other and then go "YOU LIED ABOUT HAVING MONEY TO PAY MY DEBT!""NO! YOU LIED ABOUT HAVING MONEY TO PAY BY DEBT!" five years later and divorce?

>>149410828
>>149410783
France aired it IIRC.

>>149410861
Yeah I know and that was it. It didn't do well over there either. They should've just dumped it on streaming because this was embarrassing.

>>149409095 (OP)

>>149410717
I doubt John even has that much years left in him, he’s almost 70 and is suffering from health problems, we can no longer rely on the OG Spumco crew, at this point, why not just put Newgrounds animators in charge? Theres people like Dorkymations and LotusBandicoot directly influenced by John Ks work that I can see running a reboot rather smoothly.

>>149409127
She deserved to be raped

>>149410999
>Dorkymations
>Had Kyle Carrozza on Scoop D'Teat.
I was devastated when I discovered that, sucks because Dorky is a fantastic artists. He just made a dumb decision that's gonna haunt him forever now.
>>149411041
Nah that's too far, the show failing is humiliation enough for her. She'll probably never get another job in animation again.

>>149410999
We just need to forget California all together and just return to the East Coast. Stop going to California to talent and look at other states.

>>149410999
Is that a real photo of him?

>>149411155
Nah it’s edited I just think it’s very funny for some reason

The manboobs are 100% real though

>>149411155
Yes.
Robyn and Katie used their magical witch powers to suck the life out of him. But nah for real he's just really old and anon wanted to take the piss outta him.

>>149411091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3nL6cC9NBI

The reboot was written off as a tax write off. And Robyn happened to throw a majority of the Ogs who worked on the original(like Bob Camp and Bill Wray) under a bus because they were 'too old and male'. Bill Wray even called out on this BS right after the leak happened.

Am I the only one who thinks that John K is kinda hot? He’s such a gilf, definitely sexier than that ugly loser Kyle Carrozza.

>>149411451
Kyle can only make love to his hand. If he can find it that is.

>>149410999

>Dorkymations

His indie studio Sick Mutt shut down after the arrest of Kyle IIRC

apparently nobody wanted to work there after the arrest

>>149411737
>Sick Mutt
Damn, he even named his studio after Kyle

>>149411451
He was able to date some really attractive adult women, before he started going after teen girls. Briefly dated April March/Elinor Blake while she worked at Spumco. Lynne Naylor was good looking too. So attractive women were interested in him for a while at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDeoYk7oxN4
She also did the IM Weasel theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvLV3OZAcyg

>>149411737
>Spend a long time setting up a studio.
>Finally get some recognition and make some good cartoons.
>Everyone quits in shame because of Kyle's involvement and killed the studio as a result.
Anything Kyle or John touches becomes poison.
>>149411748
Lol.

>>149411311
>too old and male
Yeah fuck those guys
>>149411942
>Anything Kyle or John touches becomes poison.
Watching Magiswords has been awkward now, but unlike watching John's seasons of Ren & Stimpy I don't have the fantastic animation to distract me as Magiswords animation is mediocre at best

>>149411750
I wonder what happened to John for him to change his "tastes"

>>149412063
He grew up in a time where that wasn't seen as life ruining for doing, and there's good chances a lot of other professionals from the time pulled similar shit but didn't have big enough fame for people to care to take notice.

>>149412103
Another Canada blunder.

Millennial here
>Loved Ren & Stimpy on Nickelodeon
>Early 2000's, this brand new channel called "SpikeTV" came out and gave us Stan Lee's Stripperella (about a crime fighting stripper) and the Adult reboot of Ren & Stimpy
At the time, all of the overt gay innuendo was just too weird for me. I assume it was too much for most people because it was quickly cancelled. It's one of those things where I had to warm up to it overtime because gay shit in Helluva Boss, and similar, doesn't bother me anymore.
Also, I haven't seen Stripperella since then, but I had fond memories of it.

>>149412187
>At the time, all of the overt gay innuendo was just too weird for me. I assume it was too much for most people because it was quickly cancelled
Yeah, opening the series with Ren buttfucking Stimpy was a very poor move. A lot of people were extremely turned off by Onward and Upward.

>>149412187
>>149412274
Adult Party Cartoons biggest flaw was less the gross stuff and more the writing, the episodes are loaded with filler, Altruists was particularly egregious because it’s 40 minutes of a stretched out plot that could barely fit 10 minutes. I found Ren Seeks Help to be a good episode because it actually has a damn story.

Regardless of what you think about APC you can’t deny the fact that the animation is fantastic, the characters are even more expressive than in the original series, not a big fan of their more "realistic" designs though, I liked the more cartoony designs of the original series

>>149412513
That duck scene didn't need to be 4 minutes.

My main issue with the reboot is that it wasn't even last season Games mediocre it was just bad

>>149409095 (OP)
This franchise is the most cursed.

I've genuinely run out of stuff to even talk about at this point, I'm just waiting for John to finally kick the bucket
Spumdonor is the only reason I keep up with this show, I'll go rewatch season one again and see if it changes my mind maybe I'm just over reacting

>>149409127
>Robyn Bird goes off on twitter how no one should work on this because it supports rapist John K, who also genocides trans people and puppies on his downtime while hunting for jailbait on IG
>People say that is stupid and the show has nothing to do with him and animators need work
>NO THAT'S BEING A RAPE APOLOGIST
>Months later when it stops being news
>Anways I work on the new Ren and Stimpy show now, the one I just said anyone else working on is a rape apologist for!

>>149413127
The Games crew still gave a shit, mostly trying to pick up the pieces after John got fired. The reboot reeks of apathy and possibly even contempt

>>149413127
I never really got the hate for the Games Era, sure it’s kinda missing the chaotic energy of the Spumco Era but its only really a slight downgrade.

Regardless of what you think of the games era and APC you can’t deny the fact that they had great animation, same can’t be said about this shit reboot

>>149413550
She only bitched about the reboot to just scare twitter thinking John K would be on it. And SOMEHOW they were stupid enough to believe her. She later became the producer(which NOBODY batted an eye on) and gets the revival in the shitter for just throwing out the original crew artists who wanted in on the reboot.

>>149413588
As anon said, only the last Games season was mediocre
3 had a few holdover ideas from Spumco and 4 had great episodes

Didn't like the reboot at all

>>149411979
So you'd rather throw people like Bob camp who had to put up with John's BS under a bus?

>>149409095 (OP)
>There are people who watched Inbēdājimu and Raudohausu over ecchi shotacon animus like Suponjibobu, Roko Gendai Raifu and Ren to sutinpī

>>149413609

>the original crew artists who wanted in on the reboot.

IIRC i think a Nu-Spongebob alumni wanted to be in the reboot only for production of the show to move to Awesome Inc instead of Nickelodeon Animation as it was originally planned.

>>149409201
>Spumtards seethe at the animators and creators bashing the reboot
No, reboot was expected to be crap right from the first reveal when it was immediately made clear that John wouldn’t be on it.
What really happened was that the Spum crowd and this board had a fun time mocking the bettercartoon hashtag that industry artists started using to show off their ideas that should’ve been picked up instead. And every other, if not most of the cartoons pitched looked to be some lame-looking slop derivative of SU, TOH and COTC.
The one with the COTC-reject children who cry in the woods and get magic powers is a certified hood classic.

>>149410999
A few years ago John met a dude in Japan who’s a huge R&S fan and made some pretty sweet fanart. Maybe they should hire him.

>>149415163
Good luck.

>>149415116
Crazy to think about we could've had Pinkie Davis around to at least save it.

>>149409095 (OP)
That's a good thing

>>149415122
This looks retarded and gay

>>149416446
It was apart of that cringey #bettercartoon line up made by people who only watched Steven Universe and Adventure Time and with weird gimmicks.

>>149409095 (OP)
Didn't Robyn Byrd WORK on this reboot?

>>149417966

>Implying she liked working on it

>>149409127
it's not a mighty loss. It's absolute shit and it makes me want to apologize to APC

>>149418993
shit I meant reply to >>149409095 (OP)