Thread 149413551 - /co/ [Archived: 290 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:01:39 AM No.149413551
Warren Ellis's run ONLY
Warren Ellis's run ONLY
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Comics that have gotten a bad reputation in recent years, but are actually really good?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:37:21 AM No.149414523
>>149413551 (OP)
Eh, not really.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:54:49 AM No.149414693
>>149413551 (OP)
The Dark Knight Returns gets shit on pretty evenly on Reddit and here >>149414200, but it's just magnificent.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:46:55 AM No.149415220
>>149413551 (OP)
It doesn't really happen like that. If anything, people still hype bad comics like Bendis' Daredevil.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:48:00 AM No.149415230
>>149413551 (OP)
Annihilation. Admittedly the art can be inconsistent. Still great though
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:48:08 AM No.149415233
>>149413551 (OP)
i will die loving the authority/midnighter
but its not that good, its less than mediocre.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:52:00 AM No.149415279
>>149414523
>>149415233
Ellis's run is actually pretty fucking good. You just have to ignore everything that came after it. I think its reputation has soured not because of the comic itself, but because of people associating it with all the shitty comics that it influenced.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:52:52 AM No.149415291
>>149415220
I can't stand whenever I see people try to upsell Bendis crap
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:53:33 AM No.149415300
>>149414693
pretty sure Reddit loves TDKR more than /co/ does
>>149413551 (OP)
Sandman because of Gaiman's shit, it's still a great comic
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:53:37 AM No.149415301
>>149415279
ive read every issue about 3 times, i kinda liked some of the post ellis stuff and even the dc vampire shit with jenny and apollo
but the full run (i think i own 2/3s of it) is pretty shitty at time but at good times the highs are fucking really high
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:53:56 AM No.149416405
>>149415220
>>149415291
Some of Bendis's early work is readable, but /co/ will never admit it.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:22:35 AM No.149416688
daredevil-80-2
daredevil-80-2
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>>149416405
It's terrible. I don't understand how people who claim to love comics praise the writing and art of this awfulness.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:23:40 AM No.149416700
>>149416405
>readable, but /co/ will never admit it.
because were not usually in the habit of lying, only when it comes to tards posting preposterous ideas
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:29:23 AM No.149416756
>>149416688
That's not even especially egregious. You're allowing the fact that Bendis wrote it to distort your judgement.

>>149416700
You're in denial. He may have never been great, but he has been "not bad" on a small few occasions.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:31:01 AM No.149416771
>>149416756
>You're in denial
i wish i was because i dont want to hate him, but hes never really ever been "good"
at best hes like a meal you eat when drunk and its good, but when youre sober you think to yourself "how did i consume that and think it was good?"
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:36:59 AM No.149416818
>>149415220
>>149416688
Bendis' Daredevil is still leagues better than Alias.
Fucking awful book, but every single time people bring it up as an example of "good Bendis" or "good comics every newbie needs to read". Fucking hate it.
Still somehow better than the live-action adaptation
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:38:29 AM No.149416831
>>149416756
All I know of Bendis is USM, Daredevil, and Alias. My judgment of him is based solely on these works. They're mediocre at their absolute best, and considering that these are his most lauded comics, so is he.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:38:39 AM No.149416834
>>149415300
>pretty sure Reddit loves TDKR more than /co/ does

Hard to say. But on Twitter there's quite a bunch of people who don't like it for the shallowest reasons
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 9:57:05 AM No.149416928
>>149415300
>pretty sure Reddit loves TDKR more than /co/ does
This is the opposite of reality.
>Sandman because of Gaiman's shit, it's still a great comic
It was never good. Just goth faggotry for goth faggots.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:05:33 AM No.149416980
>>149416405
youre right on both fronts, and the seething replies only prove it further. there's a reason why his early Daredevil run or the entirety of USM is so beloved and popular virtually everywhere except /co/ because... it just isn't good, okay?!
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:09:54 AM No.149417006
>>149416980
>entry-level Spider-Man book at the height of Raimi
>HURR IT'S SO POPULAR
That reason it's popular is nostalgiafaggotry, but you won't admit that and will make another bitchy passive-aggressive post instead.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 10:33:33 AM No.149417136
>>149416980
>the entirety of USM is so beloved and popular virtually everywhere

Okay, you're just being ridiculous now.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:24:28 AM No.149417424
>>149416980
The sort of people who love Bendis's Daredevil and Spider-Man are the sort of people who balk at reading any comics older than 1999 because they're too "wordy" and "dated". Therefore, their opinion doesn't count. Q.E.D.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:31:44 AM No.149417460
1734722347984557
1734722347984557
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>>149416980
lol
yeah
okay?
i guess?
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 11:37:47 AM No.149417501
>>149416980
USM shows Bendis can't write any of Spidey's extended cast or villains more then anything.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:32:59 PM No.149418441
All the good stuff that Loeb did back in the day. /co/ decided a long time ago to retroactively hate everything he did before.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:36:44 PM No.149418479
>>149415230
Since when does Annihilation have a bad reputation?
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 2:49:46 PM No.149418586
>>149418479
I've seen unkind words here pretty consistently
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:30:48 PM No.149418893
>>149413551 (OP)
I still think Authority is a good comis series. But i agree that the later ones got weaker.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:31:52 PM No.149418899
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>>149413551 (OP)
Before Watchmen is a mixed bag, but not as bad as people make it.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 3:58:03 PM No.149419180
>>149418586
This is the last place you should be listening to.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:00:44 PM No.149419207
>>149418899
That was never well received. If anything, it's less hated now than when it came out. At the time /co/ was calling it one of the worst comics ever.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:07:52 PM No.149419264
>>149419180
I don't. This is legitimately the only place to get good criticisms of comics even if it skews negative. Reddit glazes everything they read and doesn't even touch older stuff so it's this place or nothing sadly
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 4:15:01 PM No.149419345
You could just pick any comic that was popular in the 2000s. The 2000s has become the new 90s for comics. /co/ absolutely refuses to accept that anything good came out during that decade and even goes as far as making the objectively false claim that the 2010s and 2020s are both better.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:03:06 PM No.149419762
>>149415230
>>149418479
It's probably just me. I don't like it at all.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:13:18 PM No.149419875
>>149419762
What don't you like about it? Is it Moondragon getting sidelined as a hostage by Thanos? I don't like that either. I want Moondragon to do cool shit, then act smug about it. I love Moondragon!
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:19:36 PM No.149419959
>>149413551 (OP)
Not recent years but I've never met anybody but me that likes John Byrne's Doom Patrol reboot.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 5:27:20 PM No.149420059
>>149417501
The supporting cast was okay-ish, with some decent interactions here and there.
The villains were absolutely fucking atrocious: generic punching bags at best, total jokes at worst. Bendis was too preocuppied with "modernizing" them and forgot to actually make them interesting.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 6:33:47 PM No.149420799
>>149419875
Right from the beginning, I don't like any of the characters. Annihilus is a garbage villain, and Richard is not a very compelling hero, considering all that's happened.
It doesn't feel epic, grandiose, thrilling, fun, or anything aside from disappointing and a little boring. The art is also subpar.
Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:29:52 PM No.149422233
>>149418899
It's horrid.
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Anonymous
7/16/2025, 8:53:51 PM No.149422536
>>149419207
OP said it got bad reputation over the years, i didnt thought that it mean the comic need to be once well recieved.

>>149422233
Only the Crimson Corsair is horrid.