Thread 149423032

>most promising and popular series since the Simpsons
>destroyed beyond repair in ten years

>>149423032 (OP)
the jerry episiode was good doe

>>149423032 (OP)
>ten
five

>>149423054
I feel the same way but it just showed how mid everything else had been.

S1 was a surprise then S2 dropped and blew everyone away...then everything got fucked, at least the Simpsons gave us 9 seasons of quality

>>149423032 (OP)
It was never good

>>149423032 (OP)
So you've had 10 years to provide constructive criticism.

>>149423032 (OP)
it went bad pretty early on

>>149423163
Fag

>>149423163
why lie?

>>149423032 (OP)
>"destroyed"
>still massive viewerbase
>still profitable
>merch sales still flying off the shelves
>majority of viewers are happy with it
you live in an echo chamber where 10% of viewers are posting over and over about how horrible it's gotten whereas the other 90% are perfectly happy and enjoy it.

>>149423163
The first two seasons were good. Like many shows it went to shit in season 3

>>149423428
>still massive viewerbase
Nope, ratings have been falling since season 2.
>still profitable
Nope
>merch sales still flying off the shelves
There's barely any merch to begin with. This is a general Adult Swim problem though
>majority of viewers are happy with it
Maybe the redditor secondaries but original fans and normies are not happy

>>149423449
Season 3 maybe tried to get a little too experimental for its own good in some episodes, but overall I liked it a lot. Same for Season 4. S5 is where it all went to shit.

>>149423032 (OP)
>ten years
But it only took 3 years for season 3 to drop though.

>>149423474
Dumb retard

>>149423428
Bro still thinks it's 2017

>>149423163
SCHEZUAN SAUCE WUBBA DUBBA DUB DUB XDDD VOMIT BURP
oh and all girls want to fuck morty of course

>>149423163
it had SOME good in the first 2 seasond

>>149423163
The butthurt pasta about how Rick and Morty is smart made me think it'd really be something special. I thought it'd have a plot at least; Venture Bros has continuity.

>>149423163
truth nuke

grass tastes bad

>>149423078

>five

two

>>149423905
Retard

>>149423163
prove it then, what *is* good?

>>149423643
Filtered

>>149423032 (OP)
Shit was inevitable, really. It couldn't help but destroy itself when the writers couldn't commit to dropping the story arc shit like they said and tried to constantly flipflop between standalones and story shit without any sense of flow. And then when they punted Roiland to the curb to avoid controversy, meaning that they only had that fat fuck Dan Harmon to rely on, who then drove it further into the ground like he always does with his projects once he decides he needs to be more hands on, it only hit rock bottom and started digging.

No series should last ten years. is too much, no matter how good a series is, anything past 5 seasons it will start getting bad eventually.

Six seasons and a movie. that's it. That's what rick morty should have been.

It was always reddit the animated series never did it have any promises

>>149423523
Exactly. The only people genuinely still into Rick and Morty are all the same uncs who still buy Bethesda games and stoners who buy Rick and Morty rolling trays most normies have already moved on to new shit

>>149425124
Rick and Morty's mistake wasn't balancing one-offs with plot progression. The writers never fully abandoned one for the other; even Season 4 after going back to basics still continued the Beth clone and Tammy plot threads by the end.

Rick and Morty's mistake was the mishandling of its main cast and core character dynamics. They can claim "character development" all they want, but it's still a sitcom before anything else, which they fumbled by making the family more and more insufferable with each year. Now Morty feels directionless, and the comedy also took a hit for the same reason. If you can't craft funny jokes that flow naturally and instead resort to awkward sex jokes and over-the-top action scenes majority of the time, you've lost me.

>>149423032 (OP)
ten years is a pretty long time

>>149425163
Shut up you Mexican. ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS LET JUSTIN ROILAND IN CHARGE, CJ. FOLLOW THE GODDAMN TRAIN NEXT TIME, CJ.

>>149423032 (OP)
>destroyed beyond repair
If we're talking the show's popularity, then yeah, that's fucking over. But the show's quality? It actually feels like things are slowly improving. The latest episode with Jerry was GREAT believe it or not

>>149423110
>S2 dropped and blew everyone away
S2 wasn't as good as S1 and introduced Science-God Wank Rick.

>>149424920
this

>>149423449
Many such cases

(Seriously though most things have a good 2 MAYBE 3 seasons this goes for music albums too, is there a name for this phenomenon?)

>>149425375
The series was already bad in season three.

>>149424920
/thread

>>149423163
Reddit is mad at your post but this is the truth.
In retrospect most episodes were one offs fans got too invested in.
The writing is doing more of what they want now but the time is too late because they already got mad by season 4.

>>149425688
>muh Reddit!

>>149423481
The problem wasn't that is was "experimental".
The problem is that the only person with a sense of humour left the writing team to make VR games, leaving Dan Harmon to turn the show into a massive cope for his failed marriage.
Years on and Harmon and his writers still can't write an episode that's half as good as Roiland's.

>>149425183
Says who?

>>149425478
You're thinking of Season 3. Season 2 had Rick sacrifice himself after getting himself and the kids trapped in an endless string of alt timelines, it had Rick butting heads with his intellectual equal inside his car battery, and it had Rick improvise after getting shot on Purge Planet until his backup plan went into place, a backup plan that only happened thanks to Summer's help and because he didn't have cybernetic enhancements at the time.

Season 2 was an AMAZING continuation of what the first season set up.

>>149423032 (OP)
>>destroyed beyond repair in ten years
Just like the Simpsons

>>149423110
>at least the Simpsons gave us 9 seasons of quality
11

>>149423481
saying the show 'experimented' is still being too generous. Despite getting a sweetheart season deal early on, the show and GPP never 'experimented' much in terms of presentation or production beyond Totall Rickall. Rick and Morty never has its "Music Maestro", "Vomiting Point" or "Primal Factor" equivalent.

>>149426217
God you people will just say anything to shit on the series. Sorry to inform you but most people enjoy it.

>>149427008
>Sorry to inform you but most people enjoy it.
Most people don't even know it exists.

>>149425806
Guys like you keep giving Roiland way more credit than is deserved. Yes, his checking out creatively played a role in the show losing its spark, but it's that coupled with ALL the original writers leaving after Season 3. Dan Harmon being given full creative control from then on was sure to end in disaster, with all the new writers being mentored by him alone and working toward whatever his vision would then become for the show.

Scott Marder was later appointed to fix Harmon's mess, and while some of his ideas might've helped course-correct the series, others led to some of the show's lowest points yet. Personally I feel Albro Lundy's had a solid track record so far and if anyone should be in charge, it's him.

>>149427995
There is nothing wrong with the show.

It all went back when they took Beth seriously and Rick felt "bad" for cloning her or something even though it's what she wanted. For the life of me I still don't know why this is supposed to weigh heavily on Rick. I just don't. It makes no sense. So I never felt like Rick had to apologize or make up anything to Beth this entire time. She's just been this huge unlikable character all this time until splitting into Space Beth who took on the more reviling aspects of her personality. Beth insists upon herself. And I hate Wong.

>>149428090
I didn't get that either. She acts like she hates Rick for forcing her to get cloned when she literally asked for it and he provided for her. They even played the forced sad indie song over it while he drinks and looks sad like they always do. I'll be honest it was sad the first few times that happened but by S4 it started feeling like a parody of itself, why the fuck is he sad about this at all?

I wish Mooch Jerry was actually allowed to move on from his own family as they still seem like they are not worth it in the end. It's actually kind of nice seeing Jerry and Rick warm up to each other overtime now, though I still want to see our Jerry occasionally hang out with other friendly Ricks and possible alternate Behts/Summers/Mortys.

>>149423110
>>149425478
>>149425890
S3E1 really was the beginning of the end. It also started that trend where too many episodes need some big battle or fight, The cybernetics in season 3 would've been real cool if it was more of an inspector gadget deal.

>>149425890
Purge planet is wank Rick, if not as bad as later on. Considering that in season 1 he is barely solving problems he created (or not, as in the love potion episode) it's a big step to have him putting on a robot suit and killing le ebil richmen and dancing in their blood.

I've seen every episode and the only real complaints off the top of my head that I have is that Morty's new voice is weird still, Summer's face just being Jerry's is annoying to look at, and anything to do with that alphabet universe thing they spent a whole fucking episode on.

>>149428090
Actually I looked that one up and the reason beth was mad at Rick for it was that she asked him to choose, and instead of choosing he not only had his cake and ate it, too (both space beth and domestic beth) but then did the switch-around so he wouldn't even know which one was which.

I think it's bullshit but that is the explanation. I'm not neurotypical enough to understand why it's supposedly so wrong of him but whatever.

>>149428499
>hat alphabet universe thing they spent a whole fucking episode on.
I still don't know what the fuck they were thinking with that one. Maybe Ice t wanted to attention whore more and begged them for another appearance so they threw him a bone. I guess I can't be racist on a blue board but I assure you I am thinking of a terrible word.

>>149423032 (OP)
Pineapple Rick

Was kinda hoping that Mooch would stick around for a couple episodes and be a way to get rid of Space Beth for good. Like have the two of them go to a new universe with an orphaned Morty and Summer. He did spend presumably years exploring other universes so imagine Space Beth might respect him a little bit more than our Jerry.

Its ultra-good youre just mad for people liking stuff, the money shows how right i am

Only good thing about it was Bushland Adventures.

>>149423163
It was good only once.

When I found out that /co/ and 4chan in general hated it because "It ruined the character development of season 1-2" I basically disregarded it completely.

It's like in an effort to spite reddit for liking it, they ended up becoming more reddit than reddit.

Rick is at his funniest as a 4th wall breaker that constantly kicks the audience in the nuts in an almost satirical take on nihilism and I'm tired of pretending this was some sort of insult towards the writing.

>>149430263
>"It ruined the character development of season 1-2"
Nigga, that's reddit retardation. We just don't think it's funny.

>>149423032 (OP)
Ten years?
Shit sucked by season 3

>>149427995
No idea about Ridley but McMahon is a total hack

>>149423523
Mentally I'm still living in the late 2010s. All my pop culture references and ideas of "new" music predate the wufIu

>>149430263
Thank you. Christ the hate train here is ridiculous.

>>149423032 (OP)
>destroyed beyond repair in ten years
Just like the simpsons.

>>149423032 (OP)
Beach house was /comfy/.

>>149423032 (OP)
>destroyed beyond repair in ten years

Why mention the time frame? It's not like it's short or notable. Maybe television series or people's expectations for them shouldn't last an entire literal decade

They should've given us Morticia. And I should've given Morticia her first of many children.

>>149430684
How?? Solar Opposites is literally better than current Rick & Morty

>>149428308
>I wish Mooch Jerry was actually allowed to move on from his own family
Isn't that... exactly what ended up happening? And it's not that they "weren't worth it," but rather it taught Mooch that there are consequences to his actions, and both parties made a mutual separation since the family was in a good place with their version of Paul. Did we watch the same episode?

>>149423032 (OP)
>>149423110
I didn't like S2 all that much going through it because it was too much drama
now looking back on it I'll rewatch any of those episodes 100 times over any of the space beth bullshit or IC2 or the numericon episode or the citadel trash

>>149423032 (OP)
>forced female writers,not even once!!

>>149430062
>>149430159
I still find it hilarious how Cusack outdid the ENTIRE new writing team with his one 11-minute shitpost

>>149432402
He saw what worked best with Rick and Morty's personalities and decided to expand on it, simple as that. But apparently, that's a job too difficult for an entire writing team.

>>149432402
Cusack was having fun. Commiefornian writers were pushing agenda.

>>149423032 (OP)
Rick's hair is weird..

>>149424845
FUCKING GRASS! IT'S THE GLIP-GLOPS, I KNOW IT!

>>149425503
in music it's the Sophmore Slump where their first album(s) are the good material and now they have to wrack their brains to make more, it's the #1 cause of one-hit wonders tied or just barely better/worse than music trends changing on a whim (Nirvana killed my career!) while being unable to adapt
rock/metal bands that have survived the test of time are an exception, usually bands don't have that much genuine passion to keep going

>>149423182
the 3th season specifically

>>149430263
It's not that Rick is a nearly-omniscient god that has more prep time and contingency than Batman, it's that it's not actually in service of telling a funny and/or absurd story. It's just posturing from the writers to the audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkkGvMSjTIk
>4chan chuds like Jerry because of the last episode? QUICK, ADD BUTT STUFF!!!

>>149433404
>Jerry is too human and relatable now? MAKE HIM SAY FUUUUUUUCK WHILE HE TALKS ABOUT HIS VIBRATOR!
Does/did the writing staff even HAVE a sense of humor?

>>149433387
There is literally one episode I can think of that was just Dan jerking himself off and even that one was entertaining with a few good jokes (The meta reality one).

If there are any else, I failed to notice because it wasn't relevant enough to notice.
I don't care enough about how much of a colossal fag Harmon is to incorporate that into my ability to enjoy it.

>>149423054
sure

>>149423481
Are you a brony? only a brony uses "experimental" when a show does generic shitty plots.

You know what was kinda experimental? S1 doing the compilation show/multiverse TV.
Sheep in the Big City also did that, but it would have been neat if Roiland actually managed to evolve the concept just like they kinda did by watching AU Jerry & Beth on TV.

>>149423163
>I say this multiple times in R&M threads
>no replies
>some rando says it
>FOURTH POST BEST POST TRUTH NUKE LOL FAX MACHINE
fuck you /co/

>>149435189
>Why won't anyone give me attention for being an edgy iconoclast?
kill yourself.

>>149435498
Because I always was an iconoclast way before it was cool. Now everybody under the sun thinks hating le popular thing is le based and cool and stealing my thunder!

>>149435531
Hipsters

>>149423032 (OP)
What was the song they played in this episode?

>>149433404
>bringing morty's son back
Wonder if they'll bring up Naruto since that's his half-brother cousin

Season 1 was the only good one

>>149435809
they seem to be repeating content, they've done it a few times where they brought something back. like, are they out of content and just wasting episodes now? what? come the fuck on.

It amuses me how American Dad has constant female nudity but we've only gotten Beth and Summer once. I won't complain too much since it's something but why does it have to be like that? I wish more shows would follow their lead.

>show gets more boring the less Rick burptalks
they got a real simple answer right in front of them.

>>149437021
You're right. I miss the sex appeal that Rick and Morty use to bring

>>149437149
>reptile with boobs
truly the show for people with an IQ over 130.

>>149435891
incorrect

>>149423032 (OP)
Smiling Friends wins

There's nothing much this episode to discuss so I'm going to bitch about 4.10 (Space Beth's intro and the clone reveal.) Why the fuck did the Beths suddenly go straight into trying to kill Rick? Like, jesus fuck that's still your father. It's hard to rewatch this ep. I feel like half the series does nothing but shit on Rick. He's not even that bad of a father, like, he's always making shit the family wants and helping them with their problems. What is the worst thing he does, really, that everyone shits on him constantly? He drinks? Makes fart jokes? Fucking hell. Beth is the worst.

>>149437021
Rick and Morty is all bark and no bite. It tries to act extreme or edgy, but can never commit.

With every season that passes since Roliand left, I'm getting more and more convinced they either flat out lied or exaggerated him not contributing much to the story. Even the drunk improv shit he does and those stupid little characters like Poopybutthole and Garbage Goober go a long way.

Do you guys think High on Life 2 has been affected as well? It kind of felt that way with the DLC, they straight up tossed the gun with his voice away.

>>149429908
>and be a way to get rid of Space Beth for good
I actually really like everything about your idea except for the "never seeing them again" part. Fuck it, why not just make the show about them from now on and have every episode be a Sliders-esque trip to a new reality?

>>149433404
>>149433703
I don't even get it. Is it in like his pocket or something? Why isn't it muffled from inside his ass? Why is it buzzing now?

Yeah this joke is literally just an excuse to make a joke about femdom/pegging.

>>149429908
Space Beth exist to give Beth a character now that they dumped the divorce/marriage plots with Jerry. She's not going anywhere.

>>149437883
Roiland probably didn't contribute beyond coming in to voice the characters where he would add things while he was there before leaving. He likely wasn't in the writers' room often or at all.

>>149423032 (OP)
>destroyed beyond repair in ten years
>ten years

Motherfucker if you didn't see the writing on the wall after the third season then you're just plain retarded.

>>149423032 (OP)
>>149423110
Television series aren't supposed to go on for decades. They're supposed to go on for a couple seasons until they start running out of steam, and then conclude to make way for new ideas and talent. Any series, no matter how good, loses steam sooner or later. Better to be short and sweet.

>>149437931
didn't he phone in the voice acting remotely? in one of the interviews they were talking about almost never seeing him in the office.

like, i support work from home just fyi but yeah, bro phoning it in a long time. sweet gig, get drunk at home, do funny voices and burp in front of a mic, snort coke, text underage girls and get them to hook up with you.