Thread 149436250

>Is from the very same universe where Joker only gets a slap on the wrist after murdering millions of gothamites after breaking out for the gorillionth time
Hypocritical fuck has NO right to shit talk the CHADvel universe

Joker has only killed 3000 people total in main universe.
That sounds like a lot but if I said 3000 mutants suddenly it's a statistic

>>149436250 (OP)
Marvel civilians would probably gang rape the Joker now that I think about it.

>>149436250 (OP)
Gotham is a literal hellhole. The people in Metropolis stay chilling. So yeah, he does have the right to shit talk CRAPvel

>>149436250 (OP)
Avengers vs JLA mmm. Was not bad.

>>149436250 (OP)
Oh hey, I also saw that one tweet!
https://twitter.com/Yoboiknux05/status/1945628428855542113

>>149436920
Since when?

The hero that the DC Universe needs.

>>149436376
If you think Gotham is bad, Hub City is cartoonishly evil to the point of almost being grimdark. There's homeless men using dead babies they dig up from dumpsters to beg for money and like everyone is a pedophile

>>149436281
It's a comic book, 3000 people doesn't even crack the Top 100.

>>149436989
You're right, it was terrible! dohohohohohoho

>>149436376
>Gotham is a literal hellhole.

It's safer than like half of cities irl.

>>149436996
Do you ever wonder if some of these twitter accounts belong to people who post here

For every criminal Punisher puts down, another pops up in their place immediately after. And he's unable to do anything about the really big villains. His most consistent enemy is the Kingpin, but since Kingpin is a major character in the Marvel universe, Frank will never be allowed to actually kill him.

That's the sad joke that is Frank Castle's life. He kills and kills and kills and nothing actually changes. His just as ineffectual as Batman.

The real issue is that the Marvel heroes are character assassinated far worse and more often than DC. The worst example of it in DC was Hal Jordan (who has since been completely redeemed). Meanwhile every notable "hero" in the Marvel Universe was turned evil or compromised in some way at some point for cheap sales.

The Marvel Universe is like an edgy tryhard knockoff of the DCU and it has been ever since they moved away from the F4 being the focal point.

>>149436250 (OP)
It was explained in the comic that something was messing with Superman ( and Cap's ) minds to make them more paranoid. Also Superman's first encounter with the Marvel Universe was seeing people about to lynch a mutant.

Cap meanwhile thought all the DC heroes were fascist dictators because the civilians in their universe didn't hate them.

>>149436250 (OP)
Yeah, lets ignore half the of the marvel superheroes heroes turned evil at some point and how 90% are not heroes but gray assholes with superpowers.
Gotham was a shithole even before joker and half the batman cast of villians was even a thing, not because of batman.
Important fact to know, marvel civilians hate 90% of his heroes because those civilians know all of them bring collateral damage, heck marvel had a corporation that clean superhero damage to cities.
While dc heroes are loved because 90% of them, don't bring as much destrucion, and all of them care about their civilians and while they try to be an actual superhero archetype with good ethic and morals, heck flash is so loved his own city made a museum not for one but all the flashs and speedsters that helped the city.

That phrase about marvel being humans trying to be gods while dc comics are gods trying to be humans exist for a reason.

>>149436250 (OP)
I like when Superman wears his cape over his shoulders. He doesn't do it enough.

>>149437016
>>149437616
>What If: Batman met the Punisher?

>>149438066
While I think batman is morally and ethically right about heroes not killing because they are not the judge, jury and executors. Is pretty stupid to defend drug dealers that are being executed by someone else, someone who's not even a hero.
If I was a hero, i wouldn't kill at all, but if some dude have the guts to deal with all the legal trouble, moral and ethics. To do it facing the consequences of it, i wouldn't give a damn. But killing on a group is stupid too, because i cant tell someone can be just collateral damage who did nothing wrong, even if they are technically living a goon life, just have goon friends or are dicks, but never killing anyone.

Started reading this last night. It's been pretty good, kind of makes me want to start getting into some DC

>>149438670
What was the reason marvel heroes lost their shit when superman defeated thor?
What so special about him, he's just another hero, maybe a god. But he wasn't an important hero at the time.

>>149437028
>There's homeless men using dead babies they dig up from dumpsters to beg for money
It's bleak, but I've always loved that bit because it solidifies the divide of evil people often fail to recognize, active and passive, as well as the fact a city of mostly amoral civilians can be worse than a city of a few immoral criminals, you can't punch away indifference.

There's even an interesting question pun intended of whether one should help such a place. True or exaggerated it's like tales of Carthage practicing child sacrifice and how many believed their destruction was due for that and other consequences. If you could defend them against that; should you?

Batman Begins sort of dipped its toe into that but Gotham wasn't as vile to make it uncertain if Bruce did the wrong thing.

>>149438704
Yeah, it seems like that kind of sentiment would be reserved for Cap, but a fight between those two wouldn't work.

>>149437028
>>149438729
How come no one talks shit about the question, besides him being an actual awesome character.
The question too doesn't have the same level of resources batman have too.

>>149438670
All marvel lost their shit for thor on the 90's
This makes no sense, even hulk was more important than thor at the time.

>>149438797
>>149438833
>>149438704
At least it made sense for marvel heroes to hit superman at the same time.
I always hated how in dragon ball everyone waited his turn to fight a villian that could potentially kill not only earth but the whole universe. Ridiculous.

>>149438797
I guess Busiek already did a scene like that for Cap anyway

>>149438977
I love when cap is the marvel equivalent of superman, for how heroic and goody two shoes he is.
It makes sense heroes are enraged when something happens to him and spider-man.

>>149437616
Comic stories don't end. they're ongoing, so yes, nothing changes

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR A DOIIIIIIIIIIII

>>149439079
A lot of heroes hate Spider-Man. It's kinda the funny thing about him, as a reader who knows Peter, his upbringing, and beliefs we know he's usually a good egg, but to others he's just a creepy guy with a secret identity, somewhat evil looking outfit, and talks a whole lot of shit to everyone

It's a shame to me that he kinda lost a bit of that role as Douchepool became more mainstream in universe as an actual hero and kinda stole that role

>>149436250 (OP)
If you actually read the book you'd understand why he was saying such out of character things

>>149439253
>A lot of heroes hate Spider-Man
A lie pedaled by hacks and frauds

>>149436989
I've been meaning to reread this for years, I should go ahead and do that. It is pretty short too.

>>149439253
In an x-men book, where spidey hate is the worst, cable mentions he was destined be the greatest hero of all in the future. While is common spider-man hate in other books. I agree with this anon, hack writers like to flanderize Spiderman hate to comical and stupid levels.

>>149439584
Hope summers was such a bitch at the time, until spider-man make her more humble.

>>149439253
>>149439318
>>149439584
The thing to note is that the Spider-Man hate was something that happened when Peter was young and angry and talked shit to the others before thinking.
Then around the time he finished college he mellowed out and started integrating himself with other heroes in a more respectful manner with guys like Johnny, Logan, and even Steve championing him to the others.
Now were trapped in the eternal stagnancy era where the books will warp whatever character traits the author perceives the to of had when it his "turn with the toy" instead of a strong unbiased editorial moving things forward consistently.

>>149439798
*perceives the character to of had

>>149439584
Anything overdone can be bad but I kind of like the dynamic, it emphasizes that Peter IS a secret identity character in a world where many heroes are more public. And that while out of universe, he's Marvels golden boy, but in the comics universe itself he's not, The Avengers are closest to such a thing

>>149436250 (OP)
How many innocent people has Magneto killed today for the sake of making his "master race" kings of the earth?

>>149436250 (OP)
Marvel is anything but chad lad, specially talking about heroics.

>>149437016
this could've been Red Hood but DC are cowards

>>149442203
Jason wasn't even a thing in that time, he was still death for another 7 years.

>>149442308
I know, I'm just lamenting on how poorly DC treat Red Hood as a concept

>>149438797
>>149436250 (OP)
reminder that Psycho Pirate was manipulating their emotions, kinda like what Grodd did in the JL ep

>>149436250 (OP)
Based Superman

>>149436354
No they would start throwing dildos at Batman

>>149439318
What did Hellcat forget here

Has anything like this ever happened in DC? Like somebody got their shop destroyed by Superman as collateral damage and let him have an earful?

>>149436250 (OP)
>CHADvel
Stay in the DB thread, tard.

>>149444347
It might have happened in thr Eighties when DC hired a bunch of Marvel writers and killed Pre-Crisis DCU. But marvel civvies are pretty unique to marvel.

>>149436250 (OP)
Marvel civilians are notoriously retarded