DCEU recap - /co/ (#149439683) [Archived: 192 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:20:13 AM No.149439683
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Looking back, the DCEU/Snyderverse is one of the weirdest and funniest things to ever happen in pop culture history. Let's recap this hilarious mess.
>Man of Steel
A movie that was never intended to start a shared universe, pissing everyone off with its bleak tone and questionable narrative decisions like "stop, my invincible son" and having a depressed sociopathic Superman kill more people than he saves, including Zod. It's a hilarious mess that still has people mad to this day.
>Batman v Superman
One of the strangest big budget blockbusters ever made. An absolute fever dream; a strange self-indulgent arthouse flick masquerading as a big budget superhero blockbuster that focuses on the human response to Superman's existence. Produced hilarious memes like Jesse Eisenberg's ridiculous performance as Lex Luthor, Superman's weird Dr Manhattan arc, Batman acting like the Punisher, Granny's peach tea and of course MARTHA! One of the most divisive, talked about movies ever.
>Suicide Squad
Quite simply one of the worst movies ever made, bolstered only by Jared Leto's cringe inducingly hilarious turn as the Joker and the awful songs they commissioned for it, including Rick Ross' "Purple Lamborghini" which gave us a hilarious music video featuring even more Jared Leto Joker cringe. Ruined Halloween costumes forever and spawned the embarrassing failed "Release the Ayer cut" movement.
>Wonder Woman
A film that everyone loved at the time. Hailed as groundbreaking due to its depiction of a powerful female superhero and praised for its performances and poignant tone. Now loathed because its lead actor is a Zionist war criminal.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:21:03 AM No.149439695
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>Justice League
A commercial and critical disaster that was the result of the literal personification of Reddit stepping in to direct after Snyder's daughter ACK!-ed herself. An ugly eysore of a movie and a complete tonal mess that is only remembered for Henry Cavill's CGI upper lip. A failure so big that it forced WB to change the creative trajectory of the DCEU and completely remove Snyder and Cavill from the DCEU equation. Caused Ray Fisher to chimp out and get blacklisted by the studio.
>Aquaman
Released over a year after Justice League. An unironic comedy featuring CGI fish men riding giant seahorses and Jason Mamoa and Amber Heard walking through a desert while Pitbull's cover of Toto's "Africa" plays in the background. Somehow grossed over 1.3 billion dollars. The most successful DCEU movie.
>Shazam
A fun little movie and one of the better entries in the DCEU. Barely made any money due to being overshadowed by Marvel. Featured a body double with his head obscured stepping in for Henry Cavill's Superman in a post-credit scene.
>Birds of Prey
Feminist girlboss movie that barely anyone saw (largely due to COVID) and yet triggered an online culture war all the same.
>Wonder Woman 1984
An embarrassing disaster of a film that completely shat all over the previous one. Wonder Woman rapes a guy in it. Used as an example of Gal Gadot's acting inability.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:22:04 AM No.149439707
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>Zack Snyder's Justice League
The result of an extremely obnoxious years long online fan campaign that waged cyber war against those who denied its existence and forced WB to give Snyder 70 million dollars to make it. Dropped on HBO Max and Sky Cinema (in the UK/Europe). 4 hours long and claimed to be a restoration of Snyder's original vision, even though it features a bunch of new scenes like Swanwick being revealed as Martian Manhunter and a bunch of shitty post-credit stuff baiting sequels that never happened. Not a terrible film and fixed most of the problems of the original. Not good or successful enough to save the DCEU. Triggered the ongoing "Restore the Snyderverse" movement.
>The Suicide Squad
James Gunn's first foray into the DCEU. A soft reboot of the original and a much better film. However, it bombed at the post-Covid box office and laid the seeds for a complete universal reboot.
>Black Adam
A film that The Rock campaigned to make for years. Stuck in development hell for a long time until it finally entered production. The Rock hailed it as the film that would "change the hierarchy of the DC Universe forever" and pulled strings to bring Cavill back as Superman. Ended up being (unsurprisingly) a forgettable ugly mess of a movie that failed at the box office and was lampooned by critics as a massive piece of shit. The Rock continued to defend it after release and made up a bunch of lies claiming that it generated a profit before both he and Cavill were fired (again for Cavill).
>Shazam! Fury of the Gods
Forgettable sequel that absolutely no one saw or cared about. Its failure caused Zachary Levi to become a right-wing schizo.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:23:06 AM No.149439720
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>The Flash
Stuck in development hell for years. Originally intended to be a part of the original DCEU slate before the failure of Justice League (2017) forced WB to change its structure. Numerous directors were hired and then fired by WB. Eventually entered production under Andy Muschetti. Intended to completely reboot the DCEU through a story inspired by Flashpoint. A bunch of famous shills, including Tom Cruise, praised it as one of the greatest superhero films ever. Marred by pre-release controversy surrounding Ezra Miller assaulting people and kidnapping an autistic girl from her family. Opened to complete failure at the box office and mediocre reviews. Featured a tired old Michael Keaton becoming the real-life version of his character from Birdman and the Flash rescuing a bunch of flying CGI babies. Its story wasn't an adaptation of Flashpoint but just some shitty random bullshit and its weird meta ending didn't reboot the DCEU in any way. Instead, it simply confused matters even further with George Clooney showing up as Batman for some reason. What the fuck was this movie!?
>Blue Beetle
No one saw this.
>Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
The final entry in the DCEU. A sad wet fart of a movie. Very clear that no one wanted to be involved in this. Not James Wan, not Jason Mamoa, not Amber Heard (whose presence in it was surrounded by controversy due to the Depp trial). Completely forgettable schlock that barely generated a profit at the box office despite being a Christmas season release. Final scene is Patrick Wilson eating a cockroach burger. A fitting end to the DCEU.

So there we have it. The DCEU (2013-2023). 10 years of hilarious bullshit. What a fucking ride it was. I can't even say I hated it. I'm kinda glad it happened. It generated a bunch of fond memories, funny memes, hilarious moments, heated discussions and earned its place in the annals of pop culture history. What are your thoughts about this mess?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:24:34 AM No.149439742
>>149439695
>>Birds of Prey
>Feminist girlboss movie that barely anyone saw (largely due to COVID) and yet triggered an online culture war all the same.
>Wonder Woman 1984
And lost to Sonic the Hedgehog.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:29:03 AM No.149439805
>>149439683 (OP)
Warner was and still is incredibly retarded.
They are gonna keep ruining this licence no matter what.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:33:55 AM No.149439877
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>>149439683 (OP)
>its lead actor is a Zionist war criminal.
She was a fucking PT instructor.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:50:01 AM No.149440076
>>149439805
This. WB has shown the depths that nepotism Hollywood can fall to, and continues to shock us with its level of failure, inexplicably held up by willing creditors. If it makes it to 2030 without a huge crash, it is an indictment of both Hollywood and the free market as a whole.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:54:41 AM No.149440139
>>149439683 (OP)
>>149439695
>>149439707
>>149439720
Unfunny cringe.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:54:59 AM No.149440144
>>149440076
Didn't WB get screwed over by AT&T?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:56:33 AM No.149440159
>>149439877
Who trained Israeli soldiers to shoot kids in Gaza
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:00:58 AM No.149440207
>>149440159
With what, cardio exercises?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:02:53 AM No.149440229
>>149440139
True, but he's also largely correct
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:03:11 AM No.149440233
>>149440144
Did AT&T force them to fail to make money with Batman, Harry Potter, and Looney Toons?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:03:19 AM No.149440237
>>149439695
>ACK!-ed herself
you're so edgy and cool never stop making threads like this
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:04:15 AM No.149440250
black people
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>>149440159
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:08:58 AM No.149440304
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>>149440237
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:11:54 AM No.149440339
Warner was impatient about catching up to Marvel so they wanted the shared universe and team up as soon as possible. Snyder is a mega Batman fan so I'm sure he was all too eager to go along with it. But yeah, MoS probably should have been the start of a standalone series, not a shared universe. I didn't think it was great but I wasn't upset by it. The big problem with a shared universe is that it needs a house style like the MCU. Snyder has a very unique style that other directors and writers wouldn't be able to effectively ape for their movies and characters. Ayer couldn't. Jenkins had Snyder on board and came pretty close. And then with everything after they stopped trying so the universe now felt schizophrenic going from MoS having extreme destruction to Shazam doing TikTok dances.

The Gunnverse may have this problem too. Superman was a very Gunn movie. He became a household name while working within Marvel's style so it may translate a bit easier but other directors may not have the eyes or ears to match what Superman started.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:12:50 AM No.149440351
>>149439720
Well I laughed OP, what an absolute clusterfuck it was, but it looks like the thread is going to belong to people who zero in on single statements they take super cereal and drain the thread of any humor. At least you tried.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:18:26 AM No.149440417
>>149440339
>The Gunnverse may have this problem too. Superman was a very Gunn movie. He became a household name while working within Marvel's style so it may translate a bit easier but other directors may not have the eyes or ears to match what Superman started.
There's going to be a lot of creative variety in the DCU. Clayface will be a full on R-rated body horror. It will be interesting to see how all of this pans out. Can't be any worse than the DCEU.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:22:48 AM No.149440459
>>149439683 (OP)
>Now loathed because its lead actor is a Zionist war criminal.
>Zionist war criminal.
In what war Gal Gadot took part?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:25:56 AM No.149440486
>>149439695
>Talking shit about Aquakino
Ok faggot
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:29:10 AM No.149440534
>>149440459
She's Israeli and joined the IDF. Joining is mandatory for citizens but she actually had permission to have that waived. She joined anyway because she wanted to.
And there's no, like, innocent fun jobs the IDF has for you it's basically all just killing Palestinian children.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:29:17 AM No.149440535
>>149440486
OP didn't talk shit about it. He called it an unironic comedy which it is.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:29:55 AM No.149440542
The early snyderverse stuff makes a lot more sense when you realize they wanted to get bale back and have the dark knight trilogy retroactively be ironman 1 and 2 for the DCEU. This didn't end up happening obviously(mostly due to Bale wanting RDJ levels for money to have to deal with all that shit) but having 3 batman movies followed up by a superman movie and then having BvS makes a lot more sense than having just a superman movie and then by BvS
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:32:13 AM No.149440564
>>149440534
>>149440207
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:37:08 AM No.149440621
>>149440542
How would they have explained Bale's Batman coming back after his identity was revealed? Also, I seriously doubt Nolan would have been okay with this.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:49:50 AM No.149440746
>>149439683 (OP)
Batman v Superman is still the most confusing superhero movie ever made to me. I can't imagine what the thought process was when they made that movie, or how they decided to continue on after making a movie that was so laughably bad
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:51:21 AM No.149440759
Nothing to proof
Nothing to proof
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Reminder that the DCEU faced the most blatant hate campaign in recent history
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:52:26 AM No.149440769
Trump movies
Trump movies
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>>149440746
Shill
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:54:13 AM No.149440780
>>149439683 (OP)
>Batman v Superman
>arthouse
Bait
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:56:29 AM No.149440802
>>149440339
Gunn's DC movies will have to be low-budget. Superman was great, but it doesn't look like it'll do all that well overseas. There's no room for big budget capeshit flicks anymore, not even in the MCU.
>Nostalgia for the Fox movies (and Deadpool being the main character) is the only reason Deadpool and Wolverine did well, and you can only do that once.

I really hope Gunn does the smart thing and makes low-budget capeshit geared towards demos that WILL show up to the movies rather than go down the death spiral that Feige is tunneling out for himself.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:56:32 AM No.149440803
>>149440759
Those are two different writers anon
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:59:44 AM No.149440829
>>149440621
>How would they have explained Bale's Batman coming back after his identity was revealed?
No idea.
>Also, I seriously doubt Nolan would have been okay with this.
Nolan pitched in a little for MoS. Once he heard about what the execs had planned he fucked off. They then went after Bale and they offered a shit ton of money. He counter offered with an even bigger number and they backed out. In retrospect they can say all they want about what they wanted their vision to be but there were a lot talks about combining everything at the time.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:02:22 AM No.149440850
>>149440746
The thought process was Marvel had Avengers so they needed to rush out a crossover movie too
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:05:37 AM No.149440878
and that's a good thing
and that's a good thing
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>>149440803
>Implying individuals matter in le current year
Only corporations matter and Disney was at the peak of its power. And that's a good thing
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:08:43 AM No.149440906
>>149439683 (OP)
I could have sworn this exact thread with these exact talking points has been posted before.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:10:33 AM No.149440918
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>>149440906
Gunn learned a thing of two on social media manipulation after his time working for Disney
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:11:16 AM No.149440924
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>>149439683 (OP)
>>149439695
>meme arguments
learn media literacy.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:12:25 AM No.149440935
>>149440906
Search the archive and prove it then
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:12:51 AM No.149440941
>>149440918
>Gunn
Ah, so you're Indian
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:14:44 AM No.149440963
>>149440924
I don't mean to be "that guy" but people really are and were too stupid to appreciate what Snyder was trying to do here. The response to his DC work genuinely makes me lose faith in humanity. People can't possibly be that stupid.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:15:09 AM No.149440966
I still remember Man of Murder, and BvS getting mocked to high hell on /tv/, so the existence of Synderbros is absolutely baffling to me. Like, I enjoyed the Synder cut of the Justice League more than the theatrical release, but to think he managed a gathering before that is insane. Is it his works prior to the cinematic DC shit?
Out of all of those - ZSJL aside - the only movies I enjoyed were probably TSS, and Shazam 1.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:18:01 AM No.149440999
>>149440941
Snyderfags aren't Indian only. They're also East Asians and latinos
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:18:01 AM No.149441000
>>149440935
Now why would I spend my evening doing that?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:19:14 AM No.149441011
>>149440878
How many of those articles are still up today?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:19:21 AM No.149441013
>>149439683 (OP)
most of this is just your dumbfuck opinions, go start a blog, dipshit
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:19:32 AM No.149441014
disney la times
disney la times
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>>149440963
It was the Disney media empire. People think what Disney tell them to think. Its power is decaying but back then it was at its peak. If America was a real democracy, Disney would be stopped years ago
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:19:45 AM No.149441015
>>149441000
Well you're here posting on 4chin so what not?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:23:28 AM No.149441051
>>149440966
Snyder's vision was a bold take on the DC mythology that totally deserved support but because the MCU was king and WB approached this project from a reactionary standpoint, they course corrected hard as soon as the first dissenting opinions were shown. Warner wanted another perpetual money maker, another Harry Potter to coast by for years and when that didn't happen they started pretending to be in on the joke with Martha jokes in TTGO and Snydercut jabs in Harley Quinn.
now we have Gunn's Superman and we're all poorer for it.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:25:07 AM No.149441066
>>149441051
>now we have Gunn's Superman and we're all poorer for it.
Especially WB
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:26:00 AM No.149441076
>>149441051
Snyder vision was empty
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:27:24 AM No.149441085
>>149441051
Why would I support a "bold" take that completely fucking sucks compared to literally every other DC project in existence?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:28:15 AM No.149441097
BoP fan
BoP fan
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>>149441085
Because BoP was so great, right?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:33:42 AM No.149441155
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>>149441076
>>149441085
his vision was epic. dark and gritty, yes, it's all true but saying that it's the wrong take is just feeding the incorrect narrative that the superhero genre has to be pigeonholed into nothing more than children's entertainment.
>>149441097
yes, even BoP is a valid take on DC characters and what was wrong with it comes down on the course-correction by WB post BvS and the eternal Batwank.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:40:00 AM No.149441221
>>149441155
BoP is unironically one of the worst movies I've ever seen but that's the vision Geoff Johns had for the DCEU. Obviously critics loved it but not the general audience. For some reason WB is very fixated on reviews rather than making money
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:40:52 AM No.149441228
>>149439695
Wasn't Birds of Prey also hastily renamed while it was still in theaters to play up the "Harley Quinn" aspect?
I think they started calling it "Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey" in a panic to get more people to actually see it. Might be the first time I've ever heard of something like that happening.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:47:48 AM No.149441286
>>149440924
No matter how you try to spin it, Pa is here weighing the lives of a busload of kids against some idealized conception of how important Clark is going to be when he's older. He's not coming right out and saying it's worth letting them die in service of this, but he's treating these things as comparable and worth considering. It's an anti-human message that treats the exceptional as inherently more worthy of protection than innocent lives, when his greater ability to save innocent lives and help people is what makes Superman "exceptional" in the first place.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:51:26 AM No.149441318
>>149440746
I haven't watched that movie. What's so bad about it? Shouldn't Batman and Superman fighting by considered hype?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:52:23 AM No.149441329
>>149441286
Honestly, Pa could have just told him to wear a mask kek
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:53:43 AM No.149441349
>>149441155
Their take on Cassandra Cain was horrid, in what world was that version a valid take on her?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:54:49 AM No.149441359
>>149440534
Jeez, how many fucking kids do the Palestinians have that an entire army can devote its existence to killing them and still not run out?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:56:35 AM No.149441372
>>149441097
Compared to fucking BvS, yeah. Biggest problem I had with it is that it used Cassandra Cain's name for some grubby little street kid who just happened to be Asian.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:59:26 AM No.149441395
>>149441329
It could have just been a set up for this universe's version of Superboy, but what Snyder was going for instead was this tension between the lessons that Superman's two fathers had for him. I haven't seen the Gunn movie yet, but I'm a little worried that this idea seems to be sticking around, that there needs to be a big discrepancy of values there.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:05:26 AM No.149441446
Not funny. Go start a blog, OP.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:11:29 AM No.149441509
>>149439683 (OP)
>A movie that was never intended to start a shared universe
I don't understand why everyone keeps saying this, didn't Snyder explicitly say he always had a five-film saga plan or whatever
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:22:14 AM No.149441596
>>149441509
I'm pretty sure WB forced him to make a shared universe out of it in an effort to capitalise on Disney's success with Marvel. It was originally supposed to be a self-contained trilogy in the same vain as Nolan's Batman.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:26:47 AM No.149441638
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>>149441349
if WB wasn't so scared of Man of Murder memes then maybe you would've gotten your latex doll version of Batwoman.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:30:16 AM No.149441673
>>149441318
It was explored once in The Dark Knight Returns, which happened over 50 years ago. In the timeframe it was out, the hypest superhero fights were in Captain America: Civil War which was based on a comic that was barely 10 years old, but still having MCU favorites squaring off against each other. Storyline divergences aside, DCU is settling a decades old question about two heroes nobody bothered asking while hot MCU characters (and special guest Spider-Man) are going head-to-head in a metaphorical six-man Hell-In-A-Cell match.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:33:54 AM No.149441706
>>149441286
>idealized conception of how important Clark is going to be when he's older
in the end he was right.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:45:53 AM No.149441809
>>149441596
no WB forced him to make more movies into a shared universe which is what ended up happening with all the solo WW, Aquaman, Shazam films. Snyder's plan was Man of Steel, then BvS, then a two-parter Justice League, and a final fifth film we don't know yet, but people think it's one of those reality-wiping storylines like Crisis or Flashpoint. His five-film saga was about Kal-El resisting temptation to turn evil and his personal fight against Darkseid
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:48:56 AM No.149441835
>>149441329
It basically is, but because this was conceived as a standalone universe without any existing heroes it's not an immediate answer in this universe. Superman is basically meant to be the answer to this vague concept of how to save people without compromising his identity. BvS frames Superman as a dream of Jonathan kent. He wanted Clark to help people but had no idea how he could do that- Superman is a vague idea he couldn't quite comprehend in his life.
The execution is of course dubious
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:52:08 AM No.149441853
>>149441706
maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but in his daydreams about Clark fundamentally changing human history once his existence is made public he's unwittingly blurting out the wrong words to comfort his son's qualms in the present moment. Snyder making Jor-El the compassionate "be their hero my son" MORE than Jonathan is a weird choice, because the movie makes it feel like Clark's decision to be a hero and save people only came after interacting with Jor-El and learning about his Kryptonian ancestry. And while I'm not a fan of it, this puts better context on why Gunn decided to subert that and make Jonathan the driving force and not Jor-El. Ideally their should be in tandem, Superman is a product of both his Kryptonian and his human parents, but I can't fault Gunn for choosing Pa Kent over the House of El because it makes for interesting plots in future installments about the truth of Krypton, and I'm sure the Supergirl film is already gonna tackle that.
Replies: >>149441875
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:55:14 AM No.149441875
>>149441853
Speaking of Supergirl...is she a hero or just a party girl? Cuz lex doesn't seem to think there is more then one alien. That all the other heroes are just metas.

And how is they gonna deal with Supergirl with the "whole rule them" shit introduced
Replies: >>149441965
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:55:38 AM No.149441881
1740760976371325
1740760976371325
md5: 2e55553474d653c88725f00aa404eef8๐Ÿ”
>>149441359
There's not much entertainment out there with all the bombing so them fucking is basically all they got.
It's actually quite interesting if you've ever looked at the studies of what happened to the birthrates in rural India after television was introduced out there.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:05:12 AM No.149441965
>>149441875
I'm assuming Supergirl is either oblivious to it or doesnt know the full picture, and her drinking is a way to drown her sorrows about her home and her people. not sure what Gunn is going for, but I will say I'm excited because the new film was great, felt nice having a big-screen Superman film again that isn't ashamed of being one.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:19:53 AM No.149442135
>>149439720
>Featured a tired old Michael Keaton becoming the real-life version of his character from Birdman
and dying a pointless death, don't forget
Honestly, the stuff of nightmares, i expect a real truman show to get made at some point.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:22:29 AM No.149442167
>>149441318
First of all it's just weird to do a movie like that without a proper build, but even without the meta perspective, the plot of the movie is really fucking retarded and requires Batman to act wildly out of character (as a complete retard) for the two of them to fight. In how many incarnations would he just take at face value what some random guy tells him that someone is evil
Replies: >>149442348
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:26:12 AM No.149442210
>>149440878
>Slopwars fanboy
That explains it. We got a lot of your kind of people coming out of the woodworks and attacking Marvel around this time. It was all motivated from Disney fucking up Star Wars and it became a โ€œOh they ruined my franchise, now Iโ€™m gonna spread propaganda and ruin yours, too, because if I canโ€™t enjoy my stuff then no one gets to enjoy anything ever againโ€.
Geeks + Gamers is a prime example. They sucked off Marvel until TLJ came out, so they decided โ€œDown with literally anything Disney is involved in. Oh, Marvelโ€™s doing well? Time to shit on that.โ€
Replies: >>149442530
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:42:43 AM No.149442348
>>149442167
eh because batman has never acted retarded before
Replies: >>149442382
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:49:15 AM No.149442382
>>149442348
How many incarnations of Batman would you be able to go up to and tell him that Superman is evil and his first reaction would be to murder him?
Replies: >>149442395
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:51:08 AM No.149442395
>>149442382
All of them from TDKR onwards.
Replies: >>149444462
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:59:27 AM No.149442440
>>149440339
>Snyder is a mega Batman fan

Pretty sure the most common thing people know about Batman is that he doesn't kill under any circumstance
Replies: >>149442492 >>149442568
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:04:22 AM No.149442474
Aquaman was a much better movie than The Suicide Squad
Replies: >>149442482
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:05:48 AM No.149442482
>>149442474
Suicide Squad is one of the darkest films I've ever watched. Literally, I couldn't see shit. That was the worst era of comic book movies trying to be dark and gritty to the point where it became a detriment, especially with something like Suicide Squad that was a comedic story
Replies: >>149442501
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:07:21 AM No.149442492
1ac
1ac
md5: 19d3c36b594659e7b32f47640c73f34b๐Ÿ”
>>149442440

>In a 2019 Q&A, Snyder was questioned about the backlash towards his decision to have Batman kill. Snyder responded by saying that fans who were still under the misconception that Batman and Superman don't kill are "living in a dreamland" and need to "wake the fuck up."
Replies: >>149442645 >>149443682
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:09:34 AM No.149442501
>>149442482
I'm talking about Gunn's SS, the original was abysmal yet still seen by more people than either Spiderverse
Replies: >>149442513
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:11:57 AM No.149442513
>>149442501
I did not see that one but I'll take your word that Aquaman was better because that was a movie that knew it was a comic book movie.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:15:38 AM No.149442530
>>149442210
lmao, the mcu never did a better film than blade. Stay mad
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:16:31 AM No.149442536
>>149440339
>Snyder has a very unique style that other directors and writers wouldn't be able to effectively ape for their movies and characters. Ayer couldn't. Jenkins had Snyder on board and came pretty close
Thatโ€™s a good thing though. Aquaman, WW, and BvS all feeling different from each other is great.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:17:39 AM No.149442543
>>149440746
The name โ€œdawn of justiceโ€ sums up the goal pretty clearly
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:21:25 AM No.149442568
1716294490523148
1716294490523148
md5: e6ae60bfed64bce4273dd2cbde60890a๐Ÿ”
>>149442440

>make a batman who isn't afraid to kill

>somehow joker is still alive
Replies: >>149442677
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:23:03 AM No.149442578
>>149439683 (OP)
The only reason it's not more hilarious is because Zaslav fired Walter Hamada before he could implement his plan to replace Cavill's Superman and Affleck's Batman with Supergirl and a 73-year old Michael Keaton as Batman.

I honestly don't understand why Hamada convoluted everything so much instead of smoothing things with Cavill and Affleck and doing another JL movie that acted as a soft reboot with another director.

There is a puff piece in the NYT where Hamada says that their plan was to release 6 DC movies per year (4 theatrical and 2 on HBO Max) and not only that, but also that's very movie will have its own TV spin-off. The only ones that ended up getting made were The Penguin and Peacemaker.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:25:44 AM No.149442591
>The movie and show with John fucking Cena are arguably the most enjoyed parts of a multi million dollar cinematic universe with A-list celebrities in the roles of some of the most popular superheroes in the world
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:28:21 AM No.149442608
>>149441286
The crux is that Pa Kent himself doesnโ€™t know what to say. He knows Clark is right for saving the kids but he wants Clark to remember the fragility of his position, Peteโ€™s mom being the example. The problem is that Nolan/Snyder/Goyer/Terrio expected too much from the audience too much when most people just want capeshit in the most straightforward form so relying on deconstructionist subtext ends up being a recipe for disaster.
Replies: >>149442799 >>149442871
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:32:47 AM No.149442625
>>149440966
>Like, I enjoyed the Synder cut of the Justice League more than the theatrical release, but to think he managed a gathering before that is insane. Is it his works prior to the

I'm convinced the reason why Snyder has so many hardcore fans is due to his directors of photography. Larry Fong in particular, who did Watchmen, 300 and BVS with him.

Most people who aren't super into movies tend to confuse the role of the director with the role of the cinematographer. Which is ironic because Snyder himself is a terrible cinematographer (as evidenced by Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon).
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:33:32 AM No.149442627
>>149439683 (OP)
>war criminal.
nah
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:36:49 AM No.149442638
>>149439720
>>149439707
>>149439695
>>149439683 (OP)
It's weird that I haven't seen any of the movies, but I know what happens in all of them because people keep complaining about this.
Replies: >>149442877
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:38:14 AM No.149442645
>>149442492
>Snyder responded by saying that fans who were still under the misconception that Batman and Superman don't kill are "living in a dreamland" and need to "wake the fuck up."
My sides!
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:41:59 AM No.149442661
>>149440144
yes
>>149440233
also yes
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:44:23 AM No.149442675
>>149440769
>/co/pe
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:44:25 AM No.149442677
666
666
md5: d7ac658c3f38370a04fd437514ebccf9๐Ÿ”
>>149442568
MOM'S GONNA FREAK
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:47:15 AM No.149442696
>>149440878
>Only corporations matter and Disney was at the peak of its power.
If you think Disney is the most powerful, it's because you spend a lot of time on the Internet. They lost to Florida.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:48:28 AM No.149442701
>>149440963
>>149441014
You guys are midwit.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:57:40 AM No.149442740
>>149439683 (OP)
>>Wonder Woman
WW2017 was always a dogshit movie, ita was always a dogshit adaptation and Gal was always shit cast
Replies: >>149442760 >>149442835
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:01:42 AM No.149442760
>>149442740
>Gal was always shit cast
but I love mannequins and skeletons
Replies: >>149442809
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:02:14 AM No.149442763
>>149440963
>>149440924
No, the movies is jsut shit, with shit characters written like shit.

No amount of backflips will mad it misunderstood
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:07:02 AM No.149442777
>>149441051
No it was shit and it deserved its fate and derision.
We are all poorer becauuse snyder was allowed to drive the IP into the ground and because you didn't shut up, bad movie apologist
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:08:09 AM No.149442782
>>149441155
>epic
You mispelled empty
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:13:28 AM No.149442799
Implying
Implying
md5: 0c346f8071137840555a4704726c4064๐Ÿ”
>>149442608
>Expect too much
implying snydershit wasn't just a low brow circus with nothing to say
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:15:40 AM No.149442809
>>149442760
Then watch Jason and the Argonauts (1963)
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:16:52 AM No.149442816
>>149439683 (OP)
>and having a depressed sociopathic Superman kill more people than he saves
Not to deter your point, But Superman doesn't kill anyone, he is simply unable to save everyone from Zod's attack.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:21:04 AM No.149442835
>>149442740
It's an okay movie. Gadot is shit but the film doesn't ask much of her. It was definitely overglazed at the time because people really wanted to give the DCEU a win. Same with Shazam.
Replies: >>149442913
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:25:07 AM No.149442855
>>149439720
I liked Supergirl, in the Flash.
Replies: >>149442923
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:26:21 AM No.149442864
>>149439720
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom is good, if only for Black Manta.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:28:22 AM No.149442869
>>149440759
Most critics were positive for Aquaman, though.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:28:40 AM No.149442871
>>149442608
I hate the Snyder cope of "he was too complicated for the audience to follow" when the real culprit is just inconsistent writing/dialogue. There are better ways to portray Pa Kent's dilemma between wanting Clark to do great things and wanting Clark to stay silent in fear of how the world will react to his abilities than just "Maybe". It's the same thing with BvS, there's so many better ways to remind Bruce about the monster he's become than just "Save Martha". It comes off as excusing Snyder's mistakes by blaming the audience rather than owning up to it.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:29:40 AM No.149442876
>>149440534
>and joined the IDF.
Military service is mandatory in Israel, even for women.
Replies: >>149442927
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:29:41 AM No.149442877
>>149442638
>I haven't seen any of the movies, but I know what happens in all of them
maybe it's because you read four posts that provide brief summaries for all of them, dumbass
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:38:30 AM No.149442913
>>149442835
>It's an okay movie.
I found it unwatchable. Not hatefiction like snyder flicks, but still down there in incompetence
And not asking much was aparently way too much for zoolander tier acting
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:38:45 AM No.149442916
>>149439683 (OP)
>>149439695
>>149439707
>>149439720
This is depressing to read.

Zack Snyder must have compromising photos of WB execs if this was allowed to even exist in the first place.
Replies: >>149442936
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:39:39 AM No.149442923
>>149442855
>Supergirl
That was just lame genderswapped flashpoint superman
Replies: >>149442931
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:40:45 AM No.149442927
>>149442876
there are so many ways to waive it off, but Gal willingly chose to enlist and continue beyond mandatory minimum
Replies: >>149442969
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:41:46 AM No.149442931
>>149442923
but she looked good honestly
Replies: >>149442943
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:42:39 AM No.149442936
>>149442916
>compromising photos of WB execs
or his wife is Dobrah Snyder, his producer
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:43:40 AM No.149442943
>>149442931
Eh
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:45:38 AM No.149442949
Hiring Whedon so they can turn JL into The Avengers is still the most funniest part of the DCEU and really showed how despair they were getting.
Replies: >>149443131
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:51:25 AM No.149442969
>>149442927
It's still technically mandatory and, at the time, it wasn't October 7th yet.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:32:07 AM No.149443131
>>149442949
Not even kubrick would have salvaged what WB sarved him, even with 10 times te time to do it.
Reminder that it was considered "unwatchable". Their fault for not firing Snyder way earlier. bad decision after bad decision since Nolan left
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:01:23 PM No.149443252
snyder
snyder
md5: de603caccce3f41fb2c83ad211d56de2๐Ÿ”
>kills Pa Kent in the dumbest way possible
>was gonna kill Krypto off-screen as a way to teach young Clark the fragility of life
>makes Superman snap Zod's neck, his reasoning is "this is why he hates killing from now on"
>kills Jimmy Olsen in the first 5 minutes of BvS
>kills asian Mercy Graves just for lulz
>makes Batman murder hundreds of goons

I'm convinced this guy is a pscyhopath
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:10:21 PM No.149443275
Reminder: it's okay to kill if the person is mentally deficient.
Replies: >>149444755
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:13:52 PM No.149443283
Batman more like Fatman.
Seriously he was FAT as fuck.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:38:20 PM No.149443377
>>149440159
man it's funny when you read something like this and you can tell the anon didnt care about geopolitics until a couple years ago
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:35:25 PM No.149443682
michael bordan
michael bordan
md5: 1a8d8844f912a9a8d180c096686b27be๐Ÿ”
>>149442492
>>Snyder responded by saying that fans who were still under the misconception that Batman and Superman don't kill are "living in a dreamland" and need to "wake the fuck up."
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:36:47 PM No.149443688
>>149439877
Retard.
Replies: >>149443853
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:45:19 PM No.149443740
>>149439720
You're not gonna comment on Blue Beetle being an extremely transparent attempt to pander to the latino audience?
Replies: >>149443747 >>149444447
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:46:51 PM No.149443747
>>149443740
>movie with a latino protagonist has a focus on latino poeple
The word "pandering" has lost any kind of meaning.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:47:12 PM No.149443748
>>149440759
True, there was an observable phenomenon of MCU dickriding by critics, but that doesn't mean DCEU wasn't hot garbage.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:51:18 PM No.149443776
>>149440534
>Joining is mandatory for citizens
Except for orthodox jews for some reason... weird that
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:04:17 PM No.149443853
>>149443688
nigger faggot
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:41:35 PM No.149444046
F5Fa9vkX0AA3eTO
F5Fa9vkX0AA3eTO
md5: 4d5727c9e530527227889d912976463b๐Ÿ”
>>149439695
>Aquaman the most profitable DCEU movie
And one of the movies I'll be sad didn't make the DCEU transition, for just thisbastard alone. That opening scene perfectly encapsulatedManta's hate, and hope we see his actor again in the role
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:41:46 PM No.149444048
>>149439707
>>Zack Snyder's Justice League
>The result of an extremely obnoxious years long online fan campaign
I never understood this. Being passionate about creative works is fine. Supporting creators who get screwed over through no fault of their own is fine. Fans organizing to support artistic freedom is fine. But out of all the people to support, all the causes to support, why on God's green Earth would so many thousands of people the world over commit themselves to Zack Snyder's Justice League? It's utterly bizarre.
Replies: >>149444557
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:42:47 PM No.149444056
>>149439720
What the hell is going on in that image?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:36:17 PM No.149444392
>>149441097
Is that a real human being?
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:43:08 PM No.149444447
>>149443740
>latino hero with latino family as prominent supporting characters gets a movie with the same
>why are they pandering this is woke reeeeeeee
Replies: >>149444521
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:44:51 PM No.149444462
>>149442395
That isn't even what fucking happened in DKR you maniac.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:53:27 PM No.149444521
>>149444447
no get for u
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:54:01 PM No.149444531
>>149439720
You forgot Peacemaker
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 3:58:10 PM No.149444557
>>149444048
It was a wb owned bot farm, manufacturing consent.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:25:48 PM No.149444755
>>149443275
Why are you still alive then?
Replies: >>149444816
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:32:36 PM No.149444797
>>149439683 (OP)
Take it to reddit, chief.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:34:39 PM No.149444816
>>149444755
Cause I don't exist in the universe of the last Superman movie.