Thread 149448764

Dana Terrace on animated book adaptations from Disney and other animation studios

i dont care what cunts on twitter are saying

>>149448764 (OP)
>animated book adaptations
she didn't say any of that on the twitter screencap you posted, you dishonest retard.

>>149448764 (OP)
....her point of reference for her show was Little Witch Academia and Akira...

>>149448764 (OP)
Sounds like the Knights of Guinevere writers room is going well

>>149448764 (OP)
People will say a bunch of shit like this but it's never 100% one way. I've seen good cartoons from people who like mostly cartoons, people who like mostly books, people who just have shitty lives, etc. You just need to be more balanced about it. If you're just trying to make the next show like the last show because you want to fit in or validate your fanfiction or some shit, that's retarded. If you're genuinely trying to make something new based on something you like, that's fine as long as you're not ripping it off. It's always about balancing your references and life experience. Books aren't even the best gauge either because most modern books are garbage. Read older literature if anything.

I love it when women pretend they've read anything besides Harry Potter and Twilight. And when they actually have read something beyond that, it's nothing but shitty novels. If you've never read Beowulf in Old English you don't even deserve the right to vote, not that any woman deserves that anyway.

>>149448764 (OP)
>implying literature isn’t dominated by the same breed of womanchildren who are ruining animation

>>149449079
I don’t trust anyone who only reads fiction.

She says this when no story she has told, college film, Disney work, indie or otherwise, is more-or-less the same as her peers.

Yeah, sure, her ART is good, and she is correct. But any short films, TV shows, scripts, and comics she's worked on is indistinguishable from anyone else in California. Her new show just looks like another "creepy DisneyLand" aesthetic with vapid commentary about how people get trapped in their escapist world.

Sometimes it feels like these artists are sharing thoughts they're just now having themselves, not because they're so experienced and want to pass wisdom onto a younger generation.

>READ. MORE. BOOKS.

That doesn't solve the problem lol. You need to go out and have more interests and experiences. Just reading books isn't doing shit. Stephen Hillenburg didn't make a funny show because he was an extremely well-read person with hundreds of books under his belt. It was because he had a deep passion for a very layered interest and wanted to translate it to funny cartoons.

Dana Terrace is the type to tell you "You need to read literature to get real influences!" then the only books she ever read outside of grade school is manga and Harry Potter (before going against the author for being anti-trans)

>>149449250
>Just reading books isn't doing shit
There’s a thing with autistics where they reenact movies and tv scenes thinking it’ll help them seem normal. Like a RomCom will make an autist think he’ll have girls licking his dick if he sings outside of their window.
Sort of the same with books where dummbos think they’ll be smart for reading.

>>149448764 (OP)
Dana Terrace can lick my nuts and die

>>149448764 (OP)
Disney do water down stuff they use such as mythology and fairy tales.

>>149449079
Women statistically read more books than men these days though.
I think Twilight's been replaced. Know a girl into that weird smutty shit which is how I know the current one is called Fourth Wing.
A big problem I've seen with women is the absolute angst addiction. And don't get me wrong I love some good complex psychological shit but it's basically that "make it angstier with more hurt/comfort scenes" is the female version of "make it darker, edgier and more violent"
That said, I'd say she has a point and you can also see it in how many people who haven't watched a lot of live-action classic movies are working in the industry. A small media palette leads to pretty uninspired stuff at times because eventually you're just gonna see the same tropes popping up over and over. See: what's happening with anime and the isekai genre

>>149449045
>life experience
But Anon what if my life isn't that interesting to tell stories from

>>149449476
you're either referring to romantasy or dark romance, both of which are basically smut novels that are viral popular because of booktok, which is the sewer of literary circles. however, yes, women do read more books than men and it isn't even close, and smut books are only a small fragment of what they read. men pretty much don't read anything, ever, while the average woman reads regularly. if you walk into a library it's 99% women (if you don't count the hobos.)

as far as angst addiction, A Little Life is basically the worst example of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpZF7O0jezg
Modern publishing is atrocious.

Anyone notice a lot of Dana's advice on social media seems to be, "I'm such a well-rounded and insightful person, people on the outside don't understand! And even people on the inside could be better!" and then in the same breath, she'll praise everything her friends are working on?

Great advice, Dana. Might I recommend to artists pic related as a starting book? Has some amazing tales in there with timeless struggles, great philosophical takes, and really pushes the reader to dissect and interpret each of the stories.

>>149448764 (OP)
Based

>>149449801
While writing TOH, which is just a blatant harry potter ripoff. She really has an undeserved ego.

>”read more books”
She’s not wrong though. Half the “artists” out there can’t write for shit and just trace anime frames and adapt anime tropes with a TWIST

Only /co/'s autists would get mad at someone suggesting young animators should read more books. Morons, even Chuck Jones gave the same exact advice and even gave us a reading recommendation list.
https://www.chuckjonescenter.org/essential-reading-list
>"Read everything. It doesn't do you much good to draw, unless you have something to draw. The only place you'll get anything to draw is out of that head. And the only way that you can exercise the mind is by bringing new ideas to it, so it'll be surprise. And say, 'god I didn't know that!' That's the greatest thing in the world, 'Gee, I didn't know that!' And there you are, you know?"

>>149449038
They're rebooting Jewel Riders?

>>149448764 (OP)
That's rich coming from her.

>>149450138
it's good advice. the issue is who is saying it. dana needs to take her own advice first.

>>149449788
>men pretty much don't read anything
Because we generally look to /v/, /co/, and /a/ shit before reading an actual book.

>>149450638
...Yeah. Yes. That was implied. Are you posting that in a self-aware way or a smug way?

>>149449875
>While writing TOH, which is just a blatant harry potter ripoff
It's confirmed Disney neutered the fuck out of her original vision though. They could've told her "make this more like Harry Potter and less dark academia occult school or it's not gonna be profitable"

I can't defend her Amity self insert though

>>149448764 (OP)
That's not what that post is about. TF are you talking about.

>>149448764 (OP)

The theory that she got blacklisted by Disney becomes more real

>>149449987
more important than fanfic "writers"

>>149449250
It certainly helps.

>>149448764 (OP)
Damn engagement bots can't even parse the tweets their reposting anymore.

>>149449343
>they hate her for speaking the truth
Many such cases.

>>149449296
Most people are dumbos and are illiterate. So, kill yourself.

>>149449833
Mildly interesting book but the fandom sucks.

>>149448764 (OP)
>S.o.y.sky

>>149448764 (OP)
Why doesn't she make a graphic novel series that completes the lore for The Owl House?

>>149448764 (OP)
It's fine advice but I worry for Dana if she has read books but can only write something on the level of Owl House.

>>149449801
This. She's always boasting about her growth since she started out, but she's still got the mentality of a teenager, and it shows in everything she's involved in. How could anyone take her seriously when she clearly doesn't practice what she preaches.

>>149449268
Do as she preaches, not as she practices. :^)

>>149448764 (OP)
>on animated book adaptations
learn to read

>>149449250
It would definitely help solve *a* problem. Most modern writers are complete shit at writing dialogue/humor/likable characters/etc. and should spend more time reading and taking influence from older authors than using social media as a basis for communicating ideas.
Real-world experience is important, but so is craft.

>>149448764 (OP)
did you not even read what she put there? entirely different to what you mention
and it's a good point to boot actually, that kind of incestuous "only learn and emulate from the media I make" is a real problem

>>149448764 (OP)
Press X to doubt.

>>149448764 (OP)
"professional"

>>149448764 (OP)
Her first point is right, though. Read books and watch classic movies or theater, all good cartoons rip off ideas from them.

>>149448764 (OP)
I can't take Dana too seriously when one of the crew working on TOH (either her or someone else) posted what books inspired part of S2 and it was just middle school/elementary trash from the 90s/2000s. Her advice is sound (read more books) but she needs to put her money where her mouth is because TOH didn't feel very inspired (in execution) and neither does her new show based on the premise alone.

>>149454051
The problem with "just read more books" is that American culture has a broken relationship with reading. Most people suck at reading because parents are too overworked or neglectful to sit down and get them interested, schools and teachers STILL teach children classics (when only the bright students will take an interest or actually learn something meaningful from them) and push books that don't fit their reading levels, and when reading as a activity is divorced from other lifestyles. On top of all that, in the modern era (past five hundred years, give or take), the vast majority of readers have been mostly women who read slop that inevitably gets forgotten and women are discouraged by other women from reading books that will get them thinking or be more creatively inspiring.

And trying to get artists to read is like pulling teeth. You can make artists out of readers, but too many artists fucking suck as scholars or critical readers. Making a well-read and clever reader out of an artist is something very rare.

>>149449218
>Sometimes it feels like these artists are sharing thoughts they're just now having themselves, not because they're so experienced and want to pass wisdom onto a younger generation.

When the qualifications for a career like hers are drawing really well and having animation experience at a young age, you select for people who have done that and little else their entire lives, so they can still really use the advice.

>>149454154
>what books inspired part of S2 and it was just middle school/elementary trash from the 90s/2000s
Why exactly is it bad for the inspiration for a piece of childrens' media to be books written for children?

>>149449343
She's right you know
When TGAMM came out we all loved Libby but she wasn't perfect so many artists decided to fix that by making her not jewish, perverted, into older men, and of course, having boobs
It doesn't make anything canon but its a hell of a lot better than bitching to the creators that 13yos should have boobs in cartoons

>>149448926
From what I can remember, TOH was inspired by:

games:
>Cave Story
>Hollow Knight (and Dark Souls by extension)
>Pokemon
>Witch Hat Atlier

books:
>Harry Potter

anime:
>Fullmetal Alchemist
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
>Tenchi Muyo

art:
>Hieroynomus Bosch

folklore/myth/religion:
>The Bible
>Russian tales and myth
>Greek, Egyptian, and Roman myth

That's all that I can remember, I recall having a larger list of influences/allusions.
>>149454206
Because there's WAY better books (for kids in elementary or middle school) available that can serve as influences. CS Lewis. Roahl Dahl. Anne of Green Gables. Redwall. The Mysterious Benedict Society. The Name of This Book is Secret. Animorphs. The Neverending Story. Animorphs. The Warriors series. On top of that, having BAD middle school/elem school books as influences doesn't really back up the whole premise of trying to tell "more mature stories" for kids thing that Dana and other DTVA push to make themselves feel better

Dana and the writing crew just had bad taste.

>>149454325
Okay so then why mention them being middle school/elementary books, when that part's not really relevant to what you're getting at? Just say they were shit.

>>149454325
Maybe she's trying to enter the publishing industry?

>>149448764 (OP)
I get where she's coming from

but it's all subjective

It depends on your preferences and what you want to be as an artist

besides, The Owl House is a yawn fest, watch Planet Sheen instead

>>149454528
Why?

>>149448764 (OP)
ill read dostoyevsky and make my characters dance naked to the sounds of pots clashing while crying and begging for food thanks dana

>>149456028
Which Dostoyevsky?

>>149456039
crime and punishment, the only dostoyevski book i read, he is a hack

>>149448764 (OP)
She's right but I still don't like her.

>>149449476
>>149449788
>>149450638
>>149450701
Why don't men read? Are they retarded?

>>149452181
Fandom just goes by the book retard-kun.

>>149456656
>Fandom just goes by the book
no, they really don't

>>149449105
>insist for most of a century that writing and art are pussy fag shit for women and pansy men
>get angry when those people are the ones who stick with the industry and end up the dominant population making those things

>>149448776
>Gets fired

>>149449343
Comicsgate destroyed.

>>149456647
I almost read a book the other day but then I remembered I could just play video games and watch porn.

>>149448764 (OP)
>read more books
>coming from Dana Turdrace
Words that come out of the same talentless faggot who doesn't have any legacy to her name besides being seen as a laughing stock by the world ever since Owl House flopped and got canceled are just as worthless as her failed career. Owl House is the worst dogshit series that shamelessly plagiarized Little Witch Academia. What a fucking delusional retard.

>>149448764 (OP)
Just be more aknowledgeable and open about every types of art, and have other interest that is not art. It's that simple. The american art world is way too incestuous.

There is always a popular artist that will give these kind of "advices" every 5 years and will be received as something never said before.

Imagine her putting your loser ass in an half nelson head lock. That would be awful. Ha ha.

>>149457007
Kys troon

>>149456049
Fag

>>149448776
She’s right and is literally saying in plain English that Disney products are off less artistic value because they are so deeply designed by committee

>>149449079
Why do you dumb fucks pretend nobody reads?

>>149449105
>I hate books when a woman says they have value
Get your shit straight

Why is this thread full of people trying to undermine or find some exception to this very sane and audience-supportive statement? Dana is right, just because there’s a romance genre of books doesn’t mean reading doesn’t give you something watching only cartoons does not

>>149451843
>>149454267
It'd be right if she weren't so wrong.
You don't get to engage in media cocksucking without also getting reamed. It's a double edge sword, so using social media to tell people to get over social media is about as toothless as McDonald's adding apples to their happy meals.

>>149457064
You can use social media without being a little addict who stabs at people all the time

Step on me mami.

>>149448764 (OP)
Owl House is fucking GARBAGE and deserved its cancelation. Fanboy and chum chum literally has better writing than Owlshit.

>>149449343

disagree because Fanon is often retarded and made by self obsessed teenagers who are actually pretty mediocre writers/designers themselves

>>149448764 (OP)
Amphibia won
Matt Braly won

Dykena Terrace lost

Jesus Christ, it's always this strange, irrational hatred for her with you guys, is it?

>>149448764 (OP)
Stop giving this tranny attention

>>149448776
She's on bsky

hmmmmmm grass taste so good. i just became eager to draw and write my short movie script and boards again.

>>149457706
Apparently

also i like her art a lot. her skill to draw human anatomy in semi realistic proportions still inspires me. anyone has her artwork archive by any chance? looking for stuff from her deviantart and tumblr back before she went to work in the own house.

I WANT TO EAT HER PUSSY FOR A JOB

>>149457072
Cute

>>149448856
>twitter
that's blusky, or pisskey, moron
Also:
>"I love this medium but I often find its finished products to be a far cry from any of my favorite books."
>"my favorite books"
lol, write your own book

>>149448764 (OP)
The actual takaways should not be about the medium, it should be that people going for Adaptions are settling to start with, Always, be it a Movie>Comic adaption, Comic>Movie Adaption, Movie>Book Adaption, Book>Movie Adaption, VN>Anime Adaption and the list goes on

Ones that are "upgrades" are VERY fucking rare.

And frankly the idea of Reading needs the Shilling because so fucking many people WON'T READ, juts look at how Vidya is plagued by Voice Acting beggars.

>>149456647
>Are they retarded?
Yes. They burned out their dopamine receptors with constant porn and video games and now they can't find reading rewarding. They are literally pudding brained.

>>149457706
Some people irrationally hate her. Personally, I liked TOH, but she's being arrogant and getting a bloated ego to be talking like this. She made a derivative cartoon that got marginal success before getting the axe. Now she thinks she's some big brain like Harold Bloom. It's cringe and un-self-aware. Dana needs to stay in her lane.

>>149456647
Woman take more from smut books than man. So it's an easier jump for them

>>149451351

I mean judging how Disney keeps giving Amphibia, Gravity Falls merchandise like vynils,books and graphic novels while The Owl House gets nothing is very clear she burned all bridges with Disney.

Heck even Disney is having talks with Daron Nefcy in having a Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil revival

>>149451351
She's basically seething at this point. Her whole new show is just that.

>>149458668
she just had to shove Luz being bisexual in there. them being obviously into each other was pushing the envelop but generally tolerable. but it's a kid's show, dana. look, i like lumity, but you can't push gay agenda in there hamfistedly. dana is the one who tanked the series and got it canceled, dana is the one who put political agiprop above the needs of her fans. she ruined toh.

>>149458594
Well, we'll see what happens in her sophomore production.

>>149449343
I don't like being condescend to but I would advocate the same for /co/ to just do it, deny canon and substitute your own. create your own things or appropriate them. stop consuming and start making.

>>149457224
its not about quality, its about being happy, live the cringe, become to cringe.

>>149457706
Her and Alex Hirsch famously attract a lot of seethe here, mostly because of how aggressively liberal they are on twitter. I wouldn't be surprised if they're also divisive within the industry itself due to their attitude (I've heard rumors). Even creators like Rebecca Sugar don't really get that much vitriol despite being as liberal if not more so since they don't come across as hostile.

>>149457706
>>149458968
Also let's be real it's probably Luke Weber samefagging the shit out of these threads, what a loser kek

>>149458788
I wonder why it's okay when it's a boy and girl but when it's a girl and girl it's suddenly political agitprop

>>149459134
No one wants to see boy/girl little kids making out on screen either.

>>149458594
>arrogant and bloated ego
She’s literally saying her show and most shows are industry slop. She’s recommending consuming media outside of her industry, she’s saying only watching the cartoons her industry makes, will make you stupid. She is also saying her show ended up stupid in this way. That’s not arrogant, man

>>149457706
I have irrational attraction towards Dana so no. The hatred is coming from tribefags.

>>149449343
She might be a cunty dyke that probably deserves to be blacklisted after shit talking and causing problems to the company she was working with, but even she makes a good point here.

You know how the saying goes, broken clocks and what not.

>>149458989
Rent free, bro.

>>149450701
self-aware

>>149459339
She truly is someone who will not settle for less. You have to respect that ambition.

>>149456647
Literacy crisis and high stimulation entertainment.
When you look at the kinds of genres guys typically like it's also genres that are typically for guys.

>>149456647
>Why don't men read? Are they retarded?
uh, yes! the fuck you think 4chan exist for? reading are for privileged fucks who dont have shit to do like shitposts about obsessive hobbies like cartoons, and toys while talking about boobs and ass
whose got time to READ?!

that is what audio books are for

>>149452502
A lot of people have read books but can't write worth a darn

>>149449788
Well, you remember when that whole controversy happened in the mid 10s where the big goal was to replace a lot of the more outdated books with more modern ones?
One of the reasons that failed was that "a young person having identity issues related to cultural background" were basically like 1/3rd to 1/2 of what was recommended.

>>149460165
Yeah I know it. I read regularly and frequent libraries and bookshelves, and all it is now is women whinging about feminism and POCmarks whinging about being brown. No one wants to read this shit. It isn't even the fault of the women and browns, either. they can't get published unless they write what agents want.

>>149449536
Then you'd be like all those rich suburban kids with pear shaped moms who use cartoons as an outlet instead of going to therapy

>>149449536
you should draw from things anyone deals with
body horror is very common for most

>>149449833
What is the canon version? The books been getting rewritten since forever ago.

>>149460531
And everyone keeps asking about which translation to use. It's ridiculous.

>>149460531
>most canon version
lol
lmao even

The King James Bible I was told is the most """"accurate""""

>>149460585
Not necessarily, but it is definitely literate.

>>149449343
So much of media is ruined because they’re letting in fan fic fags. These people aren’t creatives. They’re just able to memorize shit.

>>149448764 (OP)
I agree, reading stuff by authors like Edward Lee, JF Gonzalez, and and Jack Ketchum completely changed what i thought stories could and should be.

>>149460854
fanfiction is the starting point
but the risk of becoming a generative work producer is very easy
this is probably why hollywood is going in on ai script works
why pay real wages to recycle slop?
a computer does it for free

>people saying toh ripped off harry potter or lwa
Dumbasses didn't read the pitch/pilot leaks. It's actually a ripoff of hollow knight that got turned into HP by disney execs

Having read actual books I can say they still suck. Less broken english than fanfics, but the rest is about on par.

>>149457746
Even more reason to ignore her.

>>149461164
dont speak ill of my queen

>>149459862
Seems more like an inflated ego than anything else. And that's why her show got cancelled.
If she was really good as she thinks she is she would be able to send her "message" and have an third season.

>>149461407
who gives a FUCK what she did to Disney
suck that mouse cock faggot
you're mentally i'll to keep harping about what SHE did to Disney and not what Disney has done to animation in general

fuck off and kys

>>149461407
Whats inflated about this tweet?

>>149457007
Didn’t this dumb muscle head get roofied?

>>149457053
>immediately plays the oppression card

>>149448764 (OP)
Owl House is garbage. Her only shitty cartoon show got canceled because it got low ratings. And now she's desperately begging to work for a company that is infamous for not paying their employees standard industry-level wages. Matt Braly won in the end.

>>149450138
Really good list lol. Dadcore for a type of dad that no longer exists.

>>149448764 (OP)
So is her show going to be more yurishit or actually be something of substance?

Built to get Non-conned in Mexico

>>149448764 (OP)
Every year, an artist say the same thing.
>>149462364
>company that is infamous for not paying their employees standard industry-level wages
Australia's cost of life is lower than the US, on top of AUD being stronger than USD, to be honest.

>Make a cool, hard working hot female that needs no man to raise her kids
>Make her into an emotionally unstable, femcel, murder-suicide contemplating, selfish post-wall hag that's ready to settle down with a tranny
The lack of self awareness is crazy.

>>149462326
She did, she made a comic about it. Then later made a follow up where she's at a doctor's office and discovered she needed an emergency surgery for something, all of which happened while she was on vacation which she canceled so she could recover.
If anyone here has that comic, please post it.

I'M READING SWANN'S WAY IT'S PRETTY COOL. WHAT ARE YOUUUUU READING /CO/

>>149456647
Women read more but it's (I say this with no rancor) virtually all disposable trash, and there isn't currently a similar brainless content pipeline for guys in this specific medium. Though this might change in the next decade or so as RoyalRoad type webnovels continue picking up momentum. Isn't Dungeon Crawler Carl getting a tv show?

>>149462734
I do feel a bit more at ease missing out on the second season. I don't really want to see Eda broken down. Would just remind me how Ryoko got sidelined in the OVAs after the 2nd season.

>>149450613
>dana needs to take her own advice first
consider: dana does follow her own advice, she'd just be that much worse if she didn't

>Why are men not reading werewolf erotica like women do?
Maybe because the werewolves don't look like Holo?

>>149462821
Eda was willing to trap Luz and King in the Isles by killing herself to stop a plan Belos had that she didn't know what it actually was because she was sad they'll grow up and leave her one day. There's a reason why her popularity peaked by the end of S2A

>>149448764 (OP)
For anons in the thread:
Any /lit/ recommendations?

>>149462955
Werewolf women are not common in media. Women in general have more monster on woman media than men do in the west.

>>149460165
>outdated
They meant not black and gay, right?

>>149462967
I still need to finish the series, but you need to be in a good mood to watch disney slop. I still did not finish Amphibia and probably never will with how retarded the fanbase is.

>>149457706
r/cartoons is that way sister

>>149462968
Anything Warhammer 40k currently in the zeitgeist of pop culture. Audio books available to. This book specifically.

>>149456647
the junk smutty literature women are reading so much is the equivalent of male's porn and vidya

>>149462968
Walter Moers

>>149448764 (OP)
If you could develop a film or mini series based on one novel or story,beta would you do?
I'd like to be able to do an adaptation of the Rime of the Ancient Mariner

>>149463076
Doing a one to one adaption from books always seem to fail because readers who become watchers need to adapt their mental descriptions they get from the writer. So unless they have direct input from the writer, you will just get a lot of disappointed people.

>>149461450
Calm down little guy she won't let you hit

>>149463299
Oh course not, she smashing her real life Luz.

>>149449536
Literally anything you've done in your life can be inspiration, anon. SpongeBob came from a guy liking sea animals, Pokemon and Zelda happened because some Japanese boys liked playing in a forest and playing with bugs. Gravity Falls was just one guy's summer but spiced up.

Just be whimsical and be funny. That's really all that matters. Just don't make things from a shitty, cynical place or make it performative. People can feel it.

>>149448764 (OP)
Let's take a look at Dana Shitrace embrassing career flop shall we?
>Owl House got canceled
>No season 3
>No Journal
>No Artbook
>No Graphic Novel
>Low ratings and low viewership
Who let this ugly hack bitch have an opinion? No one cares what this retard has to say about anything. Dana can't even preach what she writes, her series is the epitome of shit writing and endless anime plagiarism but drawn in ugly tumblr tranny style.

>>149463441
>>Owl House got canceled
True
>>No season 3
False
>>No Journal
False
>>No Artbook
Double False as it sold out and another reprint on the way.
>>No Graphic Novel
New Animation project
>>Low ratings and low viewership
Ratings dont mater because TV is dead faggot. No one watches TV anymore because everyone wants to see pedophiles hang while both liberal/conservative media spaces try to slide the conversation away.

>>149448764 (OP)
this isnt about animated book adaptions, this is just telling you to read books.

>>149463492
>fals-ACKK!
This is the only thing a delusional low-IQ brown Owl House tranny can do: just deny reality as their world crumbles around them.

>>149463506
yeah
but idiots cant real past a title card
let alone a multi-paragraph media post

>>149460208
It isn't even the politics I was talking about.
The Joy Luck Club is basically essential 8th/9th grade reading and has been for decades.
Another good one is the Contender because it's about an impoverished black kid from the Bronx, but no one is gonna complain because it's also a Rocky style boxing underdog story.

But when you have nothing but this kind of stuff you're not really teaching as much. My teacher had plenty of these but we also had stuff like the use of satire and where it can be misconstrued, like they had us read a short paper from the 1800s that caused a stir in Britain where they thought the writer was unironically telling the Irish to eat their own babies to help with the famine as well as Mark Twain's famous "counter" to the theory of Evolution.
Shit gotta have variety

>>149462968
You Can't Win, by Jack Black (not the chicken jockey guy). I think ti would be amazing as a comic or an animated movie, but it's probably too obscure to ever be made.
Fearsome Creatures of the Lumberwoods, With a Few Desert and Mountain Beasts by William Cox is also a good one, nice survey of old American tall tales with good illustrations like pic rel.

>>149464499
Has a childlike design element like Suess going by that pic you posted

>>149464559
That's mostly because the fearsome critters themselves are supposed to be goofy fellas doing ridiculous things. The one above for example doesn't have any joints in his legs, hence the stiff-walk, and pic rel is so ugly and so ashamed of being ugly, that he'll dissolve into a puddle of tears if anyone ever saw him.

>>149462652
Ok but where is Dana living? If it’s still America didn’t you just prove she’s in an even worse position?

>>149448764 (OP)
She's just telling manchildren to stop watching cartoons made for 7 year olds all day and pick up a fucking book sometime. It's good advice.

>>149465554
No just man children, this applies to most of the Owlhouse fanbase as well.

>>149456647
>Why don't men read? Are they retarded?
Yes.

>>149462745
>If anyone here has that comic, please post it.
Okay but only because I want to, not because you told me to.

>>149465738
>>149465754
>>149465772
Damn! I guess it happens

>>149457007
I need her.

>>149465807
I know, right? And what a high powered woman to have her own show like that, even for just a while

>>149465807
Dana shouldn't be this hot. She pulls the butch look like a star.

>>149462758
>WHAT ARE YOUUUUU READING /CO/
I don't read literature I just download dozens of pdfs of history books. Right now I'm reading this. Internet schizos post about Gnosticism so much I might as well learn what it actually was.

>>149465738
>>149465754
>>149465772
Thank you anon
You don't also have that parody drawing of Dana looking at a cup with a roofie and diamond ring with heart eyes?

>>149462758
A family well balanced account of one of the most unique organizations in history.

>>149466401
Fairly*

>>149448764 (OP)
>bluesky

>>149462758
Clive Barker is an edgy cunt, but he spins a good yarn. I'd watch a Harry D'Amour show.

>>149451046
What the fuck was her vision? It sounded like she wanted to make Pokémon.

>>149468521
Too bad she got Rx'd

>>149456942
The Filipino remains broken

>>149456656
Then why are there a bunch of different headcanons that the fandom kills each other over?

>>149449801
I think she knows how to use social to boost her works and any work in general.
Social media is used more for signaling who you are rather than make people get news from you as an insider.
Also, if you tell people to check some friend work, you do it because you're their friend, and not because you think it's good. But, people who liked her work and followers will check out, and hopefully chose to keep consuming or not.
But then, social media is used to show yourself how you want to be looked at. If she wants to be looked at as an insider who don't agree with everything some corpo's institutional comm department says, it's in her right, and it wouldn't be inconsistent.
Tl;dr
If you don't agree with someone on something, that doesn't mean you won't help your friend because ... friends

>>149452454
cause she doesn't have the rights to Owl House. once a company buys the rights to your idea it's theirs now and theirs forever.

>>149466334
does Dana have a lot of self-hatred?

>>149466334
This woman has issues

>>149448764 (OP)
What do we expect from this?

>>149461322
You must be some kind of bridge troll or shit eating ogre to accept her as queen.

Genuine question, if you were to ask a bunch of CalArts people what their favorite film is, would they all just say Wall-E and Up or whatever? (Also taunting anons into naming their favorite films)

>>149477648
I like Terminator 2 and The Green Mile

>>149477648
Rango MOTHERFUCKER

>>149457049
Because they don’t. Half the board has a 4th grade reading level. That’s probably why comic threads on here are usually just about the pretty pictures.

>>149449343
Truth bomb, I kneel, the animation industry was basically destroyed by letting shippers and fanfic writers take control of established IPs instead of telling them to fuck off
>Teen Titans
>Arcane
>Tiny Toons Looniversity
>Adventure Time
>She-Ra
>etc

>>149456647
Women find it unattractive

>Hayao Miyazaki's 50 Favorite Children's Books

https://colehaddon.substack.com/p/inside-the-masters-imagination-hayao

How many do you know?

>>149478175
I don’t see it on the list but How Do You Live, the book he named Boy and the Heron after, is great too

>>149449801
She's just doing that thing a lot of artists do where they try to give all this unsolicited advice just because they had a chance to work on a project once
The real reason they do this is because they're coping with the fact that nothing they've made has had any real impact on the industry and they ultimately have no real substantial experience to speak of so they think having the status of some sage old wizard giving advice will somehow "elevate" what's essentially surface level wisdom

>>149448764 (OP)
Reasonable take that wouldn’t be contentious at all if it was coming from a man

>>149448764 (OP)
>see her art
>95% of it is just her
>bonus points if it's her looking angsty about her art
I understand that artists like to make self-portraits or something that reflects their current mental state but this is just narcissistic. There's nothing about her work that resonates with others unless you're just as vapid as her

>>149479522
Female artists are usually self absorbed, Dana is just more open about it.