Thread 149448864

>>149448864 (OP)
>all those fun adventures
Your fag shit isn't fun adventures steven universe is garbage for the gayest retards to ever exist

Imagine a world where Sugar just put a leash on her boarders and didn't let them do so much dillydallying with townie episodes so the series was actually able to progress and end in a satisfying way and it answered most/all of the lingering questions and there wasn't an need for Future or Lars of the Stars.

>>149448889
You should like it then

>>149448864 (OP)
They were already traumatic at the time.

Steven was showing clear signs of trauma from Steven and the Stevens

>>149448959
>clear signs of trauma
They played it for laughs in that episode

>>149448864 (OP)
isn't that exactly how cPTSD works though? in the moment you're alright but then it all comes crashing down later in life

>>149448864 (OP)
steven universe is made for and by arrested development adults

>>149448864 (OP)
I gonna kill that Fat Crybaby faggot.

>>149448924
More like Stupid.

>>149449071
Even before Homeworld came into the picture, there were episodes that were framed like horror movies. SU was never just a comfy show where the hero has low-stakes adventures.

>>149448894
I hate most of the townie episodes too but the reason Sugar couldn't end the show in a satisfying way is because it was cut short by CN. There was supposed a whole extra season

>>149448864 (OP)
But don't you know, the modern American middle-class lifestyle is completely ideal and perfect! If something deviates you from its expectations, you need to purge its influence so you can return to enlightenment!

I swear, it's as bad as anime's 'return from fantasy adventure to be a salaryman' meme.

>>149449012
And?

>>149448924
His face looks so punchable

>>149448864 (OP)
Did Connie's mom ever get punished for letting her daughter be a child soldier, even after she broke a child's arm? Since a lot of stuff that was simply passed as cartoon logic is now being taken seriously.

>>149449192
How much did Connie ever tell her mother about that?

Pink Diamond was such a scumbag holy shit. I wasn't expecting Sugar to really shit on the "motherly" figure archetype that everyone loved and remembers fondly like that. Her voice is sexy tho

>>149448889
Fpbp

>>149449138
Salaryman job isn't that dangerous

>>149448924
this episode ends with Steven making cat puns about the whole situation by the next day

>>149448889
fpbp

>>149449258
Dear Cartoon Network, you missed your appointment today.

>>149449192
It is crazy how after she shows her mom that she can fight in "Nightmare Hospital" her parents are completely okay with her fucking going to space and fighting in a war

>>149449258
>ze/zir
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>149449258
>ze/zir
Are they really this out of touch? Fucking nobody uses those, the only time I've seen those in use was for furry herm shit.

Stealthy /pol/faggotry thread

>>149449332
OP here. Don't ever fucking insult me like that

No they weren't fun. That's the fucking point.
Remember when Steven almost got trapped alone in space? Remember when he was beaten to unconsciousness and imprisoned? In one of the episodes Steven literally died so that an alternate timeline version of him could go on.

That shit is not normal. Steven accepting that as being normal is why he's so agitated. Because nothing in normal lives compares to the shit that he's gone through. He can't relate to anyone. Normal days don't feel like anything special. He's been constantly on edge for at least 3/4ths of his life. Steven doesn't even realize he's not normal until he's told.

God I know people like to shit on Steven Universe Future but the epilogue is exploring a character after happily ever after. When your whole identity is made up of solving other peoples' problems and fixing a universe because of your cowardly mother, where do you go from there?

Steven doesn't have that answer and everyone is so used to him being the one to solve everything so they don't have the right answers and give him really shitty advice. But Steven being so impressionable since he was a child is the thing that caused his childish outlook and is now causing him his main conflict.

That's the point of the entire epilogue.
That's the POINT. No one can TELL Steven where to go next. That's his decision. Everyone else is FUCKING WRONG.

>>149449299
Why wouldn't they be? Steven is Jesus. He literally brought Lars back from the dead. If anything happened to Connie he could just fix it.

>Yeah but she'd be a different color

Sounds like an upgrade.

>>149449255
And? It was clearly deeply upsetting and scary to him at the time. And the point is shit like that kept happening throughout his childhood.

>>149448864 (OP)
Steven's childhood was traumatic as fuck. But everything kept moving so fast he didn't have time to dwell on it. He was always focused on the next battle or helping everyone else. He never stopped to deal with his own shit, until the war ended.

>>149450040
The thing is the show doesn't visualize that these are traumatic or anyway moments where we should be thinking "Damn that's upsetting". The few story based shows at the time did this better. Clone Wars for example showed Obi-wan and Anakin seeing things that drastically affect them, Satine dying, Ahsoka leaving the order, we see that these moments affected the characters and how those moments change them. SU would show Steven get set on fire and extinguished by getting beaten with metal baseball bats and the show makes it out like he's genuinely okay with it. Imagine if Uncle Grandpa suddenly had Pizza Steve talking about how hard it is being sentient food, how everyday someone tries to eat him, how he can feel his body slowly spoil whenever he's out. It'd feel out of nowhere.

>>149448864 (OP)
>Well they were actually HECKIN' TRAUMATIC and now he has PTSD!!!
Been awhile since I watched this episode but they flat out showed Steven's body having multiple microfractures because of all the punishment his body took. If you want a more fucked up reaching analogy, this is like someone learning that what they did with their uncle was actually wrong.

>>149448864 (OP)
He cried in almost every single fucking episode. You're an idiot if you didn't see his trauma coming.

>>149448864 (OP)
The show was always about characters talking about their feelings and dealing with trauma.
The gems trauma from losing Rose and all their friends in the war.
The diamonds trauma from losing Pink.
Lapis and Spinel were traumatized as fuck.
In the end Steven wins every battle by talking to people and helping them through their pain.
That's what I like about Steven Universe. He doesn't defeat his enemies, he heals them.

>>149448889
This. I would also be traumatized if I had to live through all those shitty, boring gay "adventures" Steven went through. Instead of something cool like Biker Mice from Mars you get faggots rocks crying over their faggots issues. That can brake anyone

>>149449130
This bitch got FIVE FUCKING SEASONS. FIVE! 160 episodes and 80 half hours worth of animation. That's not even counting the spinoff games, the comics, the goddamn MOVIE. What fucking story couldn't be told with that much content?

Most showrunners would KILL for that amount of time. The fact that Sugar wasted ALL of that, only to have the GALL to ask for more, should be more than enough evidence that she shouldn't be trusted with a directorial role EVER again. She was given the chance of a lifetime and thoroughly sqandered it.

Wasn't most of Steven's trauma because he was afraid he wasn't actually a real person but just his mom pretending?

>>149450933
>SU is care bears with more crying
huh

>>149448864 (OP)
Well Steve, maybe if you killed the genocidal space aliens like someone with common sense would, then you wouldn't have PTSD.

>>149450994
You are the fag

>>149448864 (OP)
Secretly based.
>single parent household wouldn't have produced a functioning adult
>lesbians guardians can't deal with their own baggage, put too much of their emotional burden on child
>entire EMPIRE of women are emotionally stunted, cannot help a young man
>only fixed by getting away from their bullshit

>>149449012
Still trauma

>>149448864 (OP)
>tourist
>media illiterate post
Every. Single. Time.

>>149449140
It's like trying to portray The Three Stooges as a heartbreaking portrayal of domestic violence.

>>149451949
>single parent household
Dude, Steven has so many parents.

>dude what if my cartoon was a couch-trip and all the characters were head cases?
TADC is bad

>>149448959
What were the signs?

>>149452065
Retard

>>149450578
>Uncle Grandpa suddenly had Pizza Steve talking about how hard it is being sentient food, how everyday someone tries to eat him, how he can feel his body slowly spoil whenever he's out
Sounds like a bit that would happen.

>>149452142
Pizza Steve got eaten in that episode.

>>149452110
no u

>>149448864 (OP)
What fun adventures? His caretakers weren't on adventures. He was left behind unsupervised to wander the town and mingle with the dull and inane townsfolk. The gems wouldn't even call Greg to tell him to look after his own son.

>>149451769
Yeah 40 hours is more than enough for a story like SU

>>149450578
Steven Universe was a COMEDY-drama that had to cater to a 6-11 demographic. That meant striking the perfect balance of perilous situations with moments of levity. As the dependably bright-eyed protagonist, Steven was the go-to for comedic moments, but the OG series still made it clear he was regularly thrust into some fucked up scenarios and would feel pressured to walk out of each one masking his growing list of traumatic experiences.

SU Future's recontextualizing of Steven's childhood did not come out of nowhere.

>>149452050
Note that I said "Wouldn't have." If the gems weren't involved.
Instead, he got a bunch of de facto children with issues.

>>149452142
As a dark humor joke, not as a genuine tragic plot point

>>149450103
yup...and in fact, thats what should have happened in the final season.

>>149451769
While i kind of agree the point isnt how much time she got, its how much time she thought she would have vs how much she got. She paced the show to have 6 seasons, it ended up getting 5, and that fucked up the pacing. 5 seasons was plenty of time and it could have easily been utilized a little more carefully if the show was always gonna be 5 seasons.

>>149452990
you know, connie being pink'd may had been for the best.

>>149448864 (OP)
Yeah, that was a disappointing plot turn.

>>149452019
Three stooges bits are comedic the whole way through. Many of those events were portrayed as tense and disturbing at the time. And the idea that this was getting to Steven did not start in future, it was present as early as full disclosure. It was still present by Mindful Education. Steven was continually put in situations no child should be in, it’s not surprising he had some issues from it.

>>149450578
the thing about trauma is that you often glaze over it until years later when you wonder why you're affected by something that happened years ago, because part of the trauma is accepting things as normal and part of your life when they're not and shouldn't be, at least not for someone that age.
The usual formula of Steven being afraid of something or panicking as it's happening and then the next day acting like it's fine is typical of someone who will have to deal with trauma from their childhood in the future.

>>149450994
this

>>149450994
if anyone ever gets isekai'd into this show then go absolutely wild with no hesistation.
do not even question the why just go full zim on that planet.

>>149449255
Comedy is a very common strategy for coping with trauma.

>>149451865
Killing yyour familiy generally gives people MORE PTSD than less.

>>149453386
is bullshit

>>149452065
Agreed. It's especially irritating that the "I'm super silly but actually SUPER DUPER SAD :(" formula is especially appealing to gen z/alpha, both in official works and a metric shitton of fanfic.

>>149449258
>>149449307
>>149449321
>ZE/ZIR/ZOE/ZUM I SMELL THE BLOOD OF ALPHABET SCUM!

>>149454330
I want a silly character with a sad backstory who is still genuinely silly.

>>149448864 (OP)
This plot twist says more about the writers and Sugar than it does the actual show itself. Steven didn't have PTSD because that wasn't the point of the fucking show. Steven didn't need to get in a fucking van and run away from everyone because that wasn't the point of the fucking show. Steven didn't sustain real injuries and deal with the lasting effects of several physical trauma because he's not even human and he has fucking healing powers.

What this shit really says is that everyone who worked on this show had a miserable fucking time, grew to hate everyone they worked with, has minimal fond memories, but lots of lingering self-doubt and insecurity because they KNOW FOR A FUCKING FACT THAT THEY FUCKED UP AND BOTCHED EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING ABOUT THIS SHOW, and now they're all feeling like finally getting away from working on Steven Universe is a good thing that will improve their mental health and allow them to move on and become the more mature, experienced people they pretended to be when they started making this pile of festering shit.

>>149449120
The highest stakes I remember from that era was when Steven was about to croak from getting too old.

>>149452730
>but the OG series still made it clear he was regularly thrust into some fucked up scenarios and would feel pressured to walk out of each one masking his growing list of traumatic experiences.
OG series had Steven constantly and obnoxiously demanding to go on adventures, go to dangerous places, fight dangerous monsters, and demand that his friends use their cool fusion powers for his amusement to get them out of danger. He never learned the lesson that he shouldn't want of that because it's dangerous and traumatic. He just kept doing it more until everyone else stopped caring as much that he was constantly throwing himself into danger

>>149454572
He almost died in a bunch of ways in the first episode with Connie. Like getting trapped at the bottom of the ocean or fighting the gem monster by himself.

>>149454559
What's really bothering you?

>>149448864 (OP)
>>149448889
The climax of the Cluster arc being a complete nothingburger was the true sign that SU was never going to be good. All of the slightly eerie intrigue of the earlier seasons that were building up to it disappeared afterwards and we eventually got to the point where the Diamonds ended up being mentally ill aunts. I can still remember when fans were excited about the cluster and everything leading up to it.

>>149449299
They should've just gone the Digimon route where the parents simply didn't have a choice once they found out their kids were battling monsters. They're clearly upset when the kids are being sent back to the Digimon World but have to suck it up.

>>149455049
What else could they have done with the cluster?

>>149454871
Bad writers using children's cartoons as a replacement for therapy to try to score some last ditch pathos points, in an attempt to make their retarded decisions seem deeper and beyond legitimate criticism, because they made some vague, poorly informed statement about mental health.

>>149450040
Are the wrong if they tell Steven to go do it himself?

>>149448864 (OP)
I want to impregnate rose.

>>149448864 (OP)
I mean that could be effective...
...if only it wasn't told by an emotionally stunted adult who got all their writing experience from making fanfiction.
It doesn't come off as mature story telling, it comes off as cringey self-congratulating garbage.
These are the kind of people who make tweets like "making cartoons on TV is great because that's YOUR ocs you get to see on the screen! YOURS!".
I shouldn't have to explain why this is unfathomably gay and will only lead towards bad mastabatory writing. It's not about passing on a good message to people its about "look at my OCs! LOOK LOOK!!!"

>>149455267
Not have what's supposed to be an eldritch piecemeal of 1000s of consciousnesses in a goofy multicolor arm that arm wrestles one of the Diamond's ships, for one.

>>149448889
Fippy bippy

>>149455372
It says a lot that fans of this type of media still think of these types of creators' characters as OCs because the stories they fit within are so weak. Happens to Vivziepop's works and Alien Stage as well because those works are clearly made by creators where playing with and shipping their OCs takes precedent over writing an actual story.

>>149454523
You’re not getting that from TADC, Undertale of Deltarune.

>>149448864 (OP)
Venture Bros owns but Rusty was a lot more of a chad than this faget

>>149448864 (OP)
I could've bought this if ever single conflict he faced hadn't been resolved by saying: "hey, this is just a misunderstanding. We can be friends!"

Like of he had had ONE "Finn and the ghost girl" moment that would've at least made some sense.

>>149450040
Anon, you know up until like a couple decades ago it used to be extremely common for all children to watch one of their friends accidentally die at some point in their childhood? Like, people used to love through extremely traumatic shit and be just fine. It's just that now people live cushy lives and are fags about everything.

Do you ever hear people in Africa having emotional breakdowns from seeing people get burned alive or eaten by cannibals? No. You know what you do hear though? People from families that make six figures out more saying they have trauma from daydreaming too much as a child.

>>149449220
>Pink Diamond was such a scumbag
Why do people say this? The only shitty thing she did was abandon Spinel, and she probably didn't know Spinel would stay put for thousands of years.

>>149451865
Not everything can be solved with violence, Luthor.

>>149453511
mother pearl sex

>>149448864 (OP)
It would be worth it to get your cock drained by the Crystal Gems every day

>>149456935
real

it's like rebecca thought that it would've been more deep and matire that a shonen main character became self-aware of what he went through. it's like Gohan having otsd for all the times he was forced to fight as a child

>>149457711
It's a dogshit lesson. Not every single bad thing that happens to us needs to be 'trauma'. If it didn't bother you until someone told you it did, then it didn't bother you. Gohan didn't give a shit. He had some bad times, some scary fights, but he emerged a heroic and kind warrior because he didn't have some little bitch in his ear going "you're BROKEN, you're TRAUMATIZED".

>>149457711
A hero dealing with PTSD after saving the world is not a novel concept and can be done well. The problem is Sugar was likely pulling from therapy sessions as she was having them which led to the embarrassing execution of Steven's PTSD arc. Him being calmed down by a giant group hug of everyone including his genocidal aunts that he barely tolerates was just retarded. The characters all taking turns to apologize to him was also the most juvenile execution of his loved ones owning up to their mistakes since it was all spurred by his meltdown and they were saying it in panic trying to calm him down, not because any of them had an actual moment of self-reflection. It was the equivalent of therapy speak in cartoon form - it was patronizing to the viewers and a sign that the writer didn't know how to deliver a message without resorting to a script handed to them by their therapist.

why do they have genitals if they don't have sex?

>>149458501
I always assumed that they don't have them unless they shapeshift

>>149448864 (OP)
But how though?

>>149452730
>Steven Universe was a COMEDY
where were the jokes, then?

>>149453009
No I think Steven would be so guilty over it their relationship wouldn't work anymore

>>149448864 (OP)
One of the only parts in the entire steven universe franchise that was good. You should give credit where credit is due.

Also they weren't even portrayed as fun in the beginning, we just didn't know just how bad it was until this episode. Like Steven was actually sustaining lethal wounds this whole time. I think it was a good twist. It was kind of metal.

This thread has been making me go on a nostalgic trip to find all the fanfic and fan art over the course of the show's life, and looking back at how amazing it was and (back then) thinking the show would do even better, it now all seems so surreal how little of a shit Sugar and her crew gave about anything besides the main gems and those annoying ass townies.

I fully believe that the gem lore was just Rebecca Sugar's bait and switch to get people to watch her androgynous, colorful blobs dick around in le comfy beach town

>>149462212
Forgot my image

>>149456701
I think being fucking kidnapped and beat to unconsciousness while you're a preteen is a little different from witnessing a child die before even pre-adolescence.

People in Africa don't usually have the luxury of processing their trauma like 1st world countries do. Like Steven didn't have the time to process what he was going too while he was in danger. This is not a fair comparison.

>>149448864 (OP)
>Yeah remember all those fun adventures our plucky young protagonist went on? Well they were actually HECKIN' TRAUMATIC and now he has PTSD!!!
What does it says to our Finn boy here?

I fucking love Bees

>>149457601
qt 3.14

I want the Gems to give me PTSD by raping me

>>149448864 (OP)
To be fair i actually liked that those memories had repercussions on Steven, for once there were consequences in this show even though it was quickly fixed a couple episodes later.

>>149463935
That he deserves this thick noblewoman

>>149456935
Future all but confirmed that those corrupted gems were basically chronic human fuckers being punished

>>149451949
He also fixes his trauma after his brown girlfriend breaks up with him

>>149448924
Yeah, season 1 was great. It's such a shame they changed directions so hard with the show. The Steven after this episode is an alternate timeline Steven, not the original.

>>149466007
Oh, so that's why he became so retarded

>>149465953
Orange Spodumene, my beloved~

>>149448924
Beat it, Lethal Company style.

>Le pastel and loud quirky chunguns was actually grim dark and edgy the entire time!
Millennials needs to be gased. NOW!

>>149463935
The latter seasons were trash but i don't remember Finn ever getting PTSD.

>>149466007
Why is Stephen such a fat ass?

>>149468445
He eats nothing but goyslop all day and doesn't exercise

>>149467448
Canon whore. She likes the cum splattering on her gem during penetration because that's where she feels the most sensation by default, and the location is ideal for missionary. She's a slut and wears her low-rise micro skirt between her legs at all times

>>149453005
>. She paced the show to have 6 seasons, it ended up getting 5, and that fucked up the pacing
No, she paced it to milk as many seasons as she can milk from the network. There are entire seasons worth of worthless padding that genuinely contributes nothing to the show. That's not the kind of shit you pull if you have an actual story in mind. She would've made this show last forever if she could.

>>149455049
I agree. It was such a fucking letdown. A complete surrender. And thats the problem with modern shows now. When they dont want to resolve things properly, they resort to just giving up. I cant stand it anymore, because not only is it lazy writing, but it feels like a complete waste of time for the viewer. The diamonds not being the final villains was also a huge letdown.

>>149455267
>The Cluster
Steven destroys the cluster. Or else it will destroy the earth. This traumatizes steven(really trauma not the gay kind of trauma). He wants to give up, but knows he cant because the stakes are real.

>The Diamonds
First of all. Rose/Steven is/are not pink diamond. Yes, pink diamond was destroyed by rose. The first diamond to be destroyed in a long while. Steven is taken to homeworld and forced to pay for the crimes of his mother. Yellow, Blue and White all want steven dead. The final season involves steven shattering the three diamonds wirh the help of homeworld rebels. Steven comes home a hero knowing earth is safe.

>Steven Universe Future
Steven is in college back on earth. He gets kidnapped by homeworld gems. Turns out that after steven shattered the diamonds. Gemworld became unstable and a civil war kicked off. Leading to fighting between many factions. Main two factions are Former Rebels who want to install steven as leader of homeworld. The Diamond Loyalists; former nobility who lost their privileges and power and want to execute Steven for his crimes against the diamonds and gemkind.

In the end steven takes the reins of power, because he is the only one who can.

Also it turns out that there were once 12 diamonds total. Green, Red, Black, Orange, Purple, Golden, Silver and Grey. All were shattered in the past by prior rebels.

And gems origins are once sentient computer programs that built themselves bodies out of stones to inhabit the real world.

Steven felt like he had several moments in the show that concluded his character arc and the focus on, "HE'S ANGSTY NOW" honestly felt like fan fic. Yeah, I know there were spooky elements to his adventures early on, and it felt like we had a conclusion in the original series. To bring it up now after a couple of years of peace and justify it narratively with, "THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE" doesn't negate how we had a decent book end for Steven's character. SU ended with a hug and SUF ended with another fucking hug.

>>149457601
nursing handjobs form Pearl

overrated cartoon show

The problem with Future is that they tried to make it seem like no one was noticing Steven's problems, but half the episodes ended with everyone around him looking super concerned. But then the next episode had it all return to zero as if everyone just left the room the second the credits rolled.

>>149448864 (OP)
Reminder that Zach admitted to essentially ghostwriting SU:F when that show was first announced

>>149468445
He lives with three lesbians who don't understand nutrition. The only one that eats is basically a living garbage can and eats everything because she thinks pooping a peeing feels cool. So Steven only knows how to heat up previously prepared food.

>>149450040
Yeah. The actual execution was pretty mid, but the theme made total goddamn sense. It'd be weird if that kid DIDN'T have problems!

>>149456701
Why in the fuck do you think they aren't traumatized? Plenty of people function through trauma, especially when you are still in a situation (like Steven himself tries to put himself back into, or why several really fucked up vets desperately wish they could get back in the service). They just drank too much and beat their wives instead. We don't have more trauma and PTSD now, we probably even have less, we just actually talk about it.

As to Africa, not an coincidence they have a massive substance abuse problem skyrocketing right now.

>>149448864 (OP)
That might have been my fault. I remember a thread when the series was ending, asking for how the show should end. I didnt know they would use it, I was just shit posting.
My bad.
How did (You) want it to end?

>>149471491
His dad wouldn't help either. Greg was a fat highschool dropout that lived his life on the road. He'd unironically think onion rings count as a vegetable

Future felt like a fanfic.
I would have taken more towny episodes over it.

>>149472051
Retard.

>>149460613
>It existing in the first place.

>>149448864 (OP)
worst part for me is they set up lots of shit that didn't resolve
like why make an episode on bluebird just for it to never return?
or what happened to the other lapis who stayed on that planet?
what was the point of showing gregs family if you aren't going to explore it further?

>>149448889
fpbp

>>149472123
also jasper's arc is a mess.
She dissaperas for like 2 seasons, appears in future, does some fights, and it just ends.
Very anticlimactic.

We're getting a fucking Lars spinoff now kek
Fuck Sugar

>>149456709
She broke Volleyball in a analogy for lesbian domestic abuse.

>>149469705
I can fix her.

>>149448864 (OP)
This show is weird. Steven is a BOY...but thr writers treat him as if he's a girl. Normal boy emotions turn him into an out of control, tocix monsters. The piddling crap he went through, where he didn't actually injure or kill anyone gave him ptsd...like he's a 7 year old girl with no built-in coping mechanisms or the quite frankly super-drug of testosterone, as well as thousands of years of masculine instinct making him mentally suited for combat and aggression. All his mental problems are what you'd get if you put a GIRL through those incidents instead of a boy,

>>149472794
It probably had something to do with him being raised by 3 feminine space rocks. His dad was absolutely no help in raising him.

>>149472794
It's because he's half-gem. Gems are meant to be the most perfectly feminine creations, but if you put that into a human man, you get Steven.

>>149472794
They should've just made Steven a girl. It would've made more sense storywise imo

>>149466007
Okay seeing yourself die in front of you might be traumatizing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2KOFyWaQoLI
They should have made lazuli the protagonist
she has the real trauma

>>149472819
Nobody would've watched it in the first place if Steven wasn't a boy.
The show's viewership at first mostly consisted of boys who wanted to see a boy go on adventures.

>>149472911
lol

>>149472911
yo a lapis pov spinoff would be fire

>>149472985
too bad, you're getting gay ass lars pov spinoff and you're going to LIKE IT!

>>149473003
larp of the stars

>>149473003
>>149473178
Can't wait for it to be mostly unfunny pararacha jokes, fluorite taking 5 minutes to say anything , and bingo bongo every second.

>>149449321
>sperging this much about a picture from 2016
>Are they really this out of touch?
Well, you certainly are, because no one nowadays is this woke anymore.
2016 mindbroke this place.

>>149473204
LMAO