Thread 149455756

Old timers really saw this shit on the shelves and were like, "Holy molly, I gotta read the adventures of Captain Bowl on Head and Mr Gas Chamber"

>>149455756 (OP)
It must've been really easy to be a comic book writer back in the day where you could just come up with whatever bullshit and people would buy it. Random retard with metal salad bowl on his head, sure, the kids will love it.

>>149455756 (OP)
Explain how any of this is more ridiculous than Batman

Look up public domain superheroes
>No one escapes The Farter!
>Evildoers beware when Hamster Wheel-Man is on the 'run'!
>Crime has no place to hide when Flam-buoyant Man is around!

>>149455756 (OP)
Help me understand why people pretend to like these old comics. I guess they have some charm, but they're really not very good.

>>149455756 (OP)
Yes, and it was awesome.

>>149455983
It’s just a ragebait thread

>>149456033
I just find this vintage stuff very comfy.
But some of Golden Age is unironically good, Captain Marvel for exampe

>>149455876
>you could just come up with whatever bullshit and people would buy it.
considering how many failed superheroes there were, no, not really.

>>149455756 (OP)
Let's be honest with ourselves: Watchmen utterly destroyed the very fundamental image of Golden Age superhero teams. Whenever you see all the old art of them posing and smiling your mind immediately springs to which one is a closeted homosexual (ended up being Alan), who's a rapist, who killed a pregnant woman, who became a tool of the government going on black ops, who can't sexually function outside their costume etc. It's a shame but you know I'm right.

>>149455756 (OP)
OP real looked at this picture and was like, "Holy molly! I better let everyone on 4chan know what an unfunny faggot I am!"

>>149457817
Nah. I just didn't read Watchmen, Alan Moore is a gay casual who tried to say the Prankster was harmless.

>>149456033
As opppsed to modern comics with zero charm and still not being very good?

>>149457817
Moore got outdone by Morrison and Quietly a la Pax Americana.

>>149457817
Not really.

>>149457817
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>>149457817
Not at all.
>>149457889
>Moore got outdone by Morrison and Quietly a la Pax Americana.
No.

>>149458403
>No.
Yep. Writing is tight, art is phenominal, the theming of the comic has an excellent payoff. Doesn't need to be a pointless 12-ish mini to get the point across. If you lile meandering crap, Moore is for you.

>>149455983
Jay Garrick is the stupidest looking design a successful superhero has ever had, how is he even remotely comparable to Batman

>>149458828
Moore's one-shots are also better than Morrison's.

>>149456974
Not even that, likely some zoomie's favorite youchewber said something like this and he decided he needed to run to /co/ and parrot it.

>>149458828
It's a good attempt, but it's not nearly as good. If you think it's a pointless 12 issues, you didn't get it at all. Watchmen doesn't really have any fat, so Pax Americana had to cut out tissue, organs, blood, and sovl. Pax is pretty much just bones and brain.

>>149457817
Whenever I see that JSA cover in the OP, all I can think of is the gag from Marshal Law about why Hawkman looks so uncomfortable about the other guys all having a hand under the table.

>>149458986
He's a visual reference to Hermes/Mercury, the messenger and swiftest of the Olympian gods. That's not a stupid design.

>>149459136
Plus a a degree of militaristic imagery, but the zoomer OP wouldn't know that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodie_helmet

>>149455876
Or you could just make a character that's just an excuse fo have a girl in bondage. Like Phantom Lady, Wonder Woman, or any of the dozens of jungle girl characters. Well until Wertham came around and ruined things for all the teenage boys.

>>149457513
>>149455998
I wish mainstream comics would do more with old public domain superhero characters. Some of those characters have potential.

>>149459136
And how many people look at him and understand that versus how many people just see some guy that looks like a senile man with a pot on his head. When I saw him in a cartoon as a kid I thought he was a made up "old timey" superhero because I couldn't imagine someone would create such a lame looking design without irony

>>149457817
Ironic considering Alan Moore's favorite hero is superman and none of his superman stories are really that dark or depressing at all.
Even Dr Manhattan his 'deconstruction' of Superman moreso became detached from humanity than becoming evil like homelander or plutonian.

>>149455876
Its mercury's helmet, you retard.

(I know you're baiting)

Honestly it's crazy how the most iconic DC heroes were not even by DC. Also how different and unique they looked. Those guys really knew about color choice for the limited printing methods they had. Really, I don't think anything can top Golden Age DC.

>>149459418
>none of his superman stories are really that dark or depressing at all.
Whatever Happened was pretty damn dark.

>>149456033
Pick up a facsimile copy of Whiz Comics #1 or find it online. I know the art isn't as detailed or anatomically correct as modern stuff but pay attention how artists back then framed images and speech bubbles. Also how they would actually draw a variety of figures and poses. Most artists today just draw the face or from the neck up to avoid drawing full bodies.

>>149459449
Forgot the pic. Basically an anthology of different stories and artists, so it's not just Shazam.

>>149455756 (OP)
>>149455876
>>149455998
>>149456033

>>149459492
Yeah, but only Captain Marvel is actually good.

>>149459531
Yes, Carol is great

>>149457817
I swear this is like the fourth time I've seen this exact post.
It's still wrong.

>>149455756 (OP)
The guy on the bottom right is called Hour Man and his superpower is he takes a pill and he's powerful for an hour.

They literally wrote a viagra joke as a superhero

>>149459531
Uhhhh, no you retard. Golden Arrow and Ibis are kino.

>>149459443
>Whatever Happened was pretty damn dark.
Well we can give him a pass for that because it's both his take on the last Superman story, and two it still has a somewhat happy ending for Clark and Lois, and their kid will likely grow up to be the next Superman.

>>149459565
Ibis had a decent start but every issue is just muh stick, gets boring quick. Didn't like anything else.

>>149459556
Yeah but it's kinda funky to think like... Back then pharmaceutical science wasn't as advanced as today. Its kinda like a guy making a robot back in the day was a huge fucking genius but a guy making a robot in 2025 is like more common than you think now.

>>149459556
They later replaced the pill with a magic hour glass to avoid that reference.

>>149459565
Someone should do something with all these old public domain cowboy characters. Sadly there isn't really a market for westerns these days. Too problematic.

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Check my dubs NIGGERS

Why can't /co/ collectively make a comic about some random public domain superhero?

>>149459600
>>149459588

>>149459618
There's no money to be made in it.

>>149459652
The coomer part of /co/ does shit for free all the time.
Are you telling me that honest endeavors are more worthless than shitty porn art?

>>149459618
>about some random public domain superhero
Like who?

>>149459618
To be honest there is a reason why these superheroes ere public domain. Most of them are super generic in story and design and had like 5 issues before cancellation, so there is not much to work with.

>>149457817
>Watchmen utterly destroyed the very fundamental image of Golden Age superhero teams.

If you believe that, then Morrison and Quitely really did outdoor Moore and Gibbons with Pax Americana.

>>149455756 (OP)
If you don't like it that's fine but some people do.

>>149455998
I hope you're being ironic because at most THE FARTER is just silly. Though I think it's hilarious.

>>149459829
A few of them lasted a lot longer though. Rulah The Jungle Goddess lasted for almost 50 issues, only getting cancelled because of Frederick Werthams nonsense.

>>149459907
Howso?

>>149459931
>Rulah The Jungle Goddess
Let's reimagine this title as a softcore porn.

>>149460044
Because it's just as shallow a way of looking at things. Moore isn't the be-all, end-all on the subject of superheroes. He and Gibbons created a world that uses realism and some logical conclusions to make a believable world but also only works in its own universe, where the central idea is that the vigilantes and the atomic superhero made things worse for their world.

Where the problem lies is trying to apply it to other things that don't need it. Saying that you can't look at a superhero team the same way after Watchmen is like saying you can't look at an old cartoon the same way after The Unfunnies or Drawn Together or Family Guy or something.

>>149459618
>Why can't /co/ collectively
Because /co/ is incapable of collectively doing anything.

>>149459710
>Are you telling me that honest endeavors are more worthless than shitty porn art?
Yes.

>>149459755
>Like who?
Stardust The Superwizard might actually be best option if not the worst. Best case scenario it would create something incoherent like a fever-dream, fitting of the original comic, while the worst case scenario it'd be boring because of design by committee.

>>149459565
I really like Everett's Namor. I get the impression that out of Timely's stuff it was Stan's favorite because the '60s Marvel style feels like an evolution of the moodier style of Everett's comics starring a dysfunctional or flawed character (not to mention Stan constantly giving him jobs).

>>149459618
Because we already have the precedent with the countless failed /co/ projects
>Go to the public domain superhero wiki and hit random
>Let's see... Jack, the guy with a towel for cape that control bees!
>Idea guys flood the area, throwing around shit without elaboration, expecting to be picked by someone that actually writes/draw, so they can pat themselves on the back and say "I made this"
>It becomes an unwieldy mess as anons are seemingly entitled to have drawfags/writefags make their "brilliant" ideas a reality and get mad when they don't get their way.
>Then comes the niggers whose brains are directly plugged to their dicks who try to derail the whole thing so it becomes another outlet for gooning
>Now Jack is anon's blatant self-insert who goes into lewd escapades with anon's waifu. He also has a female sidekick with huge curves whose power is sitting on Jack's face ha-ha...™
>Shit dies as nothing but a second thread to beg for free porn drawings
Years ago, anons tried to make their own OC capeshit universe. It went just as you would expect. Not a single panel was drawn and people were already plotting entire crossover crisis events between superheroes that only had a concept art at best

>>149460153
>reimagine
It's wall to wall bikini titties, anon.

>>149460153
Please don't.

>>149460891
Ok we need some Black Venus por--Err, comics.

>>149461289
Well it's set in the congo. It's not like she's going to be wearing a sweater.

>>149459409
>And how many people look at him and understand that
When he was created? Everybody.
Now? It depends on how knowledgeable you are and what symbols you've been exposed to and understand. If your point is that he should have a redesign, that's the point of legacy characters. The Flash's redesign was Barry Allen. Jay won't be changed because the JSA's whole point now is to be a legacy act, and a radical change in wardrobe wouldn't make sense.

>>149457817
Think it's just cause the comic still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get more poc characters soon enough

>>149460891
I'll probably have a few of these public domain guys show up in my comic.

>>149461491
Why not just create your own character even if it’s just a rip off? Genuine question.

>>149455756 (OP)
I would 100% read the adventures of Mr. Gas Chamber, are you kidding me?

>>149461502
Sometimes playing with other people's toys is fun. Trying to reimagine them and so on.

>>149457817
Why isn't there a deconstruction manga like there have been with comic books? There was one planned about isekais but it got cancelled because all of the villains were blatant ripoffs of existing characters

>>149460891
>>149460674
Why don't we try again? It could be fun.

>>149461289
And bondage/torture galore.

>>149461574
Probably because manga isn't dominated by a single genre in the same way western comics have been.
And there's been plenty of deconstructions within manga tackling various genres already.

>>149460674
>Stardust The Superwizard
You've intrigued me, anon. I've never even heard of him.

>>149455756 (OP)
New timers really saw this shit on the shelves and were like, "Holy molly, I gotta read the lesbian adventures of Shaniqua and Goblina"

>>149461727
Stardust threads were always fun. His powers seem completely random because he was written by a raging alcoholic.

>>149461574
Franken Fran was a massive deconstructive seethe of tokusatsu. Kamen Rider still exists but nobody gives a shit about Franken Fran anymore. Deconstructions are bound to be forgotten because they have nothing to them but bitterness and hatred.

>>149461727
>>149461738
Stardust is fascinating, because you can both easily see many of the usual superhero tropes, but there's also something about the way it written that makes it feel almost alien.

>>149460674
I've been wanting to do something with Magician from Mars in the style of the trippier, moodier and more cosmic Doctor Strange stories of Ditko and Englehart. Maybe an expanded remake of the story from Amazing Man #9.

It's kind of a shame because the character is cool on its base but the actual stories were dull and trite, the art wasn't that great and she doesn't even get her actual cool look until the end of her final story.

>>149461793
How does Franken Fran have anything to do with Kamen Rider? It's some shit about hospitals

I long for the simpler days when people would actually get excited for stuff. Now we can have the most cataclysmic earth shattering events filled with death violence sex and everything turned up to 11 and people are bored by it

>>149461959
Normalcy isn't interesting. The more normal you make something the less interesting it is.

>>149461574
There have been a few. ZETMan is a deconstruction of superhero/shonen tropes.

>>149461842
>>149461738
He also showed up in the last volume of League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

>>149461842
He reminds me of the Specter.

>>149461733
What still gets me to this day is that these hacks, in their alleged infinite knowledge about spic culture, depicts Korra chicana here wearing a Puerto Rico jersey with four stars, yet the stars in a country's football uniform are meant to represent the number of World Cups won and Puerto Rico has NEVER qualified for a World Cup.

>>149461935
Are you stupid? There's several blatant Kamen Rider characters she builds.

>>149462957
It may be referring to the 1993 4 game winning streak that FIFA declared "Doesn't count" because of reasons.

>>149462957
What gets me is that Yoshida is bringing some of these losers back. Right now it's mostly been worthless writers like Charles Soule, Cullen Bunn and Sam Humphries but just watch, eventually a Marguerite Bennet or Gabby Rivera or Chelsea Cain will slip back in.

>>149455756 (OP)
Man I feel sorry for zoomers

>>149461935
One of her recurring requests was making a given person into a Kamen Rider pastiche. It went wrong and people died. This always happens because it's a Monkey's Paw/Needful Things style anthology series, but Tokufags are bitches, so we always hear about it when it happens and not the other dumb requests she gets.

>>149463105
This nigga LARPing pretending he's 100 years old and was there when this was in circulation

>>149463410
desperate

>>149463410
I mean he might be sorry because their day one internet access means they think trivia like these guys is relevant in any way.

>>149464104
Bot

>>149457817
I think it's more because the costumes look silly by our standards, but that's a very interesting thought process you've basically admitted to.

>>149464309
How is he bot the only I'm seeing is you for an opinion.
>Facepalm

>>149461727
This Anon is in the power of Stardust . . .

How cool were they back then?

>>149455756 (OP)
I still say that

>>149465050
ROPEMAN! With the power of having a rope!

>>149465082
Don't ask him what he was doing in Alabama in the 1930s

>>149455756 (OP)
And?

>>149458504

No one has attempted to explain this.

>>149455756 (OP)
>im do anything magic ring man
>im do anything wizard man
>im god
>and we’re going to fight some jewel thieves or Japanese spies
Huh? Shouldn't they have greater threats to fight?

>>149466700
What's to explain about two completely different characters from two completely different countries who exist 40 years apart?

>>149458504
>>149466700
He had to flee to Japan and get a job after getting kicked out of the Justice League

>>149459565
I've been meaning to read this for a while. Does he ever use trick arrows?

>>149461574
The problem with your sentence is Watchmen is a deconstruction of SUPERHERO comics. It does not deconstruct other genres like horror, romance, etc.

Manga DOES have series that deconstruct various genres. Puella Magi Madoka Magica popularized deconstruction magical girl manga/anime.

>>149460891
/m/ here, I've thought of writing a book of a multiverse story involving public domain characters like these guys, no idea how to go about it though.

>>149461980
Normalcy is important. You need a sense of normal if you expect anyone to think your hype events have any meaning. If all you do is big thing after big thing, that becomes the normal and you made stuff that should be massive dull.

>>149467286
What's that hot squirrel?

>>149467286
>/m/ here,
YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR /m/! EVERYONE THERE HATES YOU! Fuck you and fuck off!

>>149467321
>If all you do is big thing after big thing, that becomes the normal and you made stuff that should be massive dull.
That's exactly my point. People have been bombarded with stuff that should normally be extraordinary, but these days it's become normal.
When the original Star Wars came out it was partially criticized for being too fast paced, with little room for breathing. These days the movie is practically quaint.

>>149467340
t. An automated bot that found its way off Twitter

>>149467351
>De ya fer takin pichure
This is why I prefer super villains to mobsters in these old comics, they talk normally.

>>149461738
Post more start dust. Kek

>>149462094
He might as well be western Saitama

>>149461916
>I've been wanting to do something with Magician from Mars in the style of the trippier, moodier and more cosmic Doctor Strange stories of Ditko and Englehart
Do it, anon.

>>149461935
A group of recurring characters are Kamen Rider parodies

>>149468710
Can't draw. I've got a buddy who can who said they'd might be interested but they've also got actual real art stuff to worry about. Part of our reasoning is spite towards the local comic scene.

Also, my biggest problem is just scripting. I never feel comfortable writing full scripts i.e. deciding how many panels a page needs and such, but I feel like something closer to Marvel method really only works with more experienced comic artists.

>>149461793
>Deconstructions are bound to be forgotten
Watchmen is still remembered though

>>149468984
For being shit

>>149455876
I would've made L-Man who would've fought criminals with the power of the letter L

>>149455756 (OP)
We really don't talk about these old superheroes, huh?

>>149470125
We should tho

>>149455876
it was even easier in the 50's and 60's.
Just make up a new superpower for superman every issue.
Have silly Batman stories where he is turned into a baby.
Have silly villains like polka dot man or crazy quilt. having a hard tine figuring out new villains?
just throw in an evil sentient gorilla or some aliens

>>149470173
The 1950s was the easiest time to be a comic writer ever in the sense of not having to have good ideas. All you had to do was pitch a monster story about Grozax and then repurpose it for new monsters called Zogmar and Regma and Xaxaflan. Then when you were bored you can make up the same couple of generic gorilla stories.