are western cartoons completely dead?? the creators always get caught doing weird shit, tweening seems to be normalized, & virtue signaling is an all time high in them.

>>149459202 (OP)
Been dead since Power Rangers, Pokemon, and Dragon Ball Z killed them.

>>149459211
Nope

>>149459211
Those things were around when cartoons were still good.

Social media and streaming ruined it. it was a mistake

>>149459202 (OP)
No and it has nothing to do with creators

>>149459202 (OP)
isnt there like a new controversy with a jap creator like once a month?

>>149459202 (OP)
im glad im a fan of 90s/00s cartoons and anime. I cant with these 2deep4u uwu wholesome cartoons

>>149459202 (OP)
Western cartoons died the instant anime truly became mainstream with...

Pokemon
Dragon Ball
And other lesser examples like Full Metal Alchemist

That was the end of western animation. Anime has better art styles for starters. Anime can deliver on the violence like Outlaw Star or Cowboy Bebop. Western cartoons at the time were still stuck with censored trite like Samurai Jack which could only kill robots and it had a wonky unfitting art style for drama.

This ended up making a lot of networks invest into comedies like Regular Show instead but that was the end very much. There is no returning enjoy the reboot of Phineas and Ferb because once that runs its course its truly game over for good. You're not going to get the interest of young people with ugly ass series like Stugo or as I like to call it STUPID. Why would you name your damn series Stugo, it does indeed read like the word stupid. And other newer series like Wylde Pak are just knock offs of things like Loud House and Casagrandes.

Cartoons are dead until gen x goes back to making them

>>149459202 (OP)
What killed western animation for me was thinking it through and realizing that the DCAU is horrible trash. Hey you like Batman right? He grows old into a shut in LOSER who allows a little child, Robin, to get tortured because he can't bring himself to kill a psycho. And if you like Superman the entire Superman series has a central story about how humanity hates Superman because he gets mind controlled and how is this resolved? Superman's main villain Luthor rescues the Earth from Darkseid meaning Superman is useless.

I honestly find the DCAU unwatchable nowadays because the major heroes, Superman and Batman end up depicted as failures at life. And the lesser heroes get portrayed even worse. And don't get me started on how the DCAU invented that horrible character Harley Quinn. That shitty character has poisoned DC entirely.

>>149462036
What makes wholesome cartoons so annoying is how insulting they are. Real life is not wholesome at all ESPECIALLY now with the current lousy economy. You can't live in a delusion bubble or reality will kill you.

>>149459202 (OP)
You need to make your own bro.

>another "Western animation is dead because I don't like what's on Disney Channel" thread
Your reasons for thinking Western cartoons are dead are incredibly retarded btw

>>149462072
>Cartoons are dead until gen x goes back to making them.
Those Gen X cartoon creators are only a few of them.
They are either getting into retirement or dying.
And creatives are more interested in new talent or what IP makes more money.

>>149460088
Explain.

>>149463666
Grim

>>149459202 (OP)
New Smilingfriends is coming later this year, so no.

>>149459202 (OP)
>Because he's the hero /co/ deserves, but not the one it need right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
Seriously though, we need more people working with a John K level of obsessive passion and knowledge about cartoons. Just ones that can meet deadlines and not groom teenage girls. People like that exist, and sometimes they'll get work on shows, but the current industry isn't helping them thrive. The whole landscape is a mess though, television is basically dead.

>Because he's the hero /co/ deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight.
Seriously though, we need more people working with a John K level of obsessive passion and knowledge about cartoons. Just ones that can meet deadlines and not groom teenage girls. People like that exist, and sometimes they'll get work on shows, but the current industry isn't helping them thrive. The whole landscape is a mess though, television is basically dead.

>>149465479
Adventures of Billy & Mandy

>>149459202 (OP)
thats because in japan, you can get away with the weird stuff. hence every anime now is just sexy teenagers.

>>149469184
It's actually fucked up how easily Nobuhiro Watsuki, the Rurouni Kenshin guy, got off. He was caught with 100 DVDs of child porn and didn't even get jail time. He only paid a 200,000 yen ($1,900 at the time) fine. And Rurouni Kenshin went back into publication not too long after.

So yeah, I guess you can get away with anything there.

>>149469184
japan also makes anime, while the western network have abandoned everything. Look how many new shows CN has, it's extremely grim.

>>149462403
Literally this. Glitch is showing out all of Hollywood rn

>>149459211
>are western cartoons completely dead
2003 TMNT was the last really good western cartoon, so I would say yes

>>149459202 (OP)
>>149459211
>>149471026
2003 was the last time cartoonist were able to outshine something from the 80s

>>149462517
Nobody likes what's on Disney Channel

*improves your show with a variety of zany sound effects*