Today is July 20th, Obsidian and Jade's birthday.

Say something nice about DC's twins with the most incest subtext!

>>149470901 (OP)
Facts about Obsidian!

>he is catholic
>he is gay
>he is cute
>he has schizophrenia and depression
>worked as a radio host at Alan's company during Infinity Inc and social worker in Manhunter, and he worked as a mechanic as a teenager
>he doesn't know who Chloe Sevigny is
>he likes musical theater, Stephen Sondheim being his favorite
>he successfully killed his adoptive dad (and he deserved it)
>he's tried to kill Alan twice (and Alan deserved it)

>>149470906
Facts about Jade!

>she can turn herself back to being a normal white girl, she just chooses not to because she is an attention whore
>she tried to be an actress but failed, states she quit because the industry was sleazy
>she tried to be a model but kinda failed at that too
>she became a photographer instead
>she is straight and her taste in men is questionable
>she is right handed despite her power pulse being on her left hand
>she likes baseball
>she is cute

>>149470901 (OP)
Does anybody have the Scott family copypasta?

>>149470901 (OP)
I don't know how I would react if my father turned out to be gay who never loved my mother. Honestly, I would feel sick.

He's gay and she's a slut who openly cheated on Kyle and didn't even feel any guilt.

>>149471659
Kyle deserved that and worse for his crimes against female characters.

>>149470901 (OP)
I hate Obsidian's costume.

>>149470906
I read Obsidian with Shadow the Hedgehog's voice
>>149470911
For Jade I read her with a cute southern drawl

>>149472023
Filtered

>>149471659
Perfect for a sibling ntr doujin.

>>149472023
Shit taste

Looks cool when in shadow form and looks like a slut when normal

Win/win

>>149472079
His costume is super faggy tho

>>149472593
most hero costumes are

>>149470901 (OP)
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>>149470911
Are they even alive anymore? I don't think I've seen them in years, decades maybe.

>>149475444
They're in the new JSA book

>>149470901 (OP)
Happy birthday

>>149471619
He never loved her or else he would’ve tried to at least find her.

>>149472061
They’re from Wisconsin

>>149470911
>she is straight and her taste in men is questionable

Jade's bi now.

>>149479875
I wish, they shoved her in an unnecessary situationship with Sandy

>>149480380
Explain

>>149471619
To be fair to him not reaching out to Rose he had no memory of fucking her so there’s that. Alan being gay is an absolutely shit take though and was one of the absolute worst tone deaf takes DC has ever made

>>149480472
Also entirely unnecessary since Obsidean exists.

>>149480407
No.

>>149480512
Definitely the father son dynamic was better when Alan was straight like there was tension but you could tell Alan was trying his best to be a good understanding dad. Now they barely interact and when they do it’s just so Todd can say how brave Alan is for coming out

>>149472023
lies

They should've made Todd/Al canon instead of giving him a literally who cares civilian boyfriend.

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>>149470901 (OP)
Blue Beetle

>>149471252
>Todd and Jennie were oddly incestuous in Infinity Inc
>like mutual cuddling all the time
>Jennie made him his gothic space hooker outfit
>Jennie didn’t tell her friends and family Todd was her brother and they all thought they were dating to the point of them getting engaged
>Todd went along with it
>Todd cockblocking her all the time
>his girlfriend pretending to be Jennie and tried to kiss him while they were in their underwear and in bed
>Todd had no issues with merging bodies and minds with Jennie
>Jennie also initially had no issues with it either despite not having the starheart influencing her like it was Todd
>that time Jennie and Alan hugged in bed after Todd went nuts in JSA
>right before this Jennie told Alan she and Todd shared dreams and shit and Alan was just like "cool I guess wow I miss my son, let's cuddle daughter"
>Todd's bf looks like Alan and just like Alan is also cool with sticking his dick in crazy
>Alan pops up in Todd's room after Todd and his bf had sex to tell him Jennie is dead
>Todd doesn't even bother denying having daddy issues
>Jennie's ex boyfriend Brainwave ended up similar to Todd where his powers drove him nuts and evil for a few stories and she still loves about him
>Jennie dated a guy with Alan’s powers, cheated on him with a guy that looks like Alan, and fucked Sandy who looks like Alan
>In Infinity Inc Alan heard Jennie talking about Rose but because she used a fake identity with him (and not Rose) he thought she was Todd’s girlfriend

They need to let Rose be alive again so she can get in on it too.

>>149470901 (OP)
>incest
>both are only interested in dick
They were sisters but one was a guy.

>>149472593
Is that why it makes me wanna suck his cock?

>>149484169
Yes

>>149480512
It exists because they erased Obsidian during the N52

>>149479875
Since when?

>>149484589
Never, the dude is ragebaiting

They should've killed Obsidian off in the first arc he went evil. He never really contributed to anything after that and writers never seemed to like him anyway, as even when Jade was dead she was used more than him in JSA titles.

And Jade just should've stayed dead, her character never recovered from her cheating on Kyle.

Who's the best at sucking cock?

>>149486940
Todd > Jade > Alan

>>149487896
Idk they kept Alan having been repressed I’d agree but they seemed to have walked back on it and made him a slut when he was younger and guys are usually better at bjs than girls are
Todd tho is definitely the best, once he likes you he’ll do anything

>>149487952
Yeah but I doubt Alan performs as well nowadays

>>149470906
>he's tried to kill Alan twice (and Alan deserved it)
why

>>149480688
Yeah he was a conservative type and hes just trying to understand him

>>149470906
>>he is catholic
>>he is gay
Well that goes without saying!

>>149470911
She was also an agent deeply embedded in that 'sleazy industry'. See Blood Pack.

>>149470901 (OP)
>Obsidian and Jade's birthday.
I literally don't know who are those two are, but okey then.
Happy Birthday to them.

>>149470901 (OP)
Love them

>>149489181
Alan is a horrible dad who plays favorites.

Their entire relationship is summed up in one panel in early Infinity Inc where, after their team beats Ultra Humanite, he tells Jade he would be proud if she were his daughter while ignoring Obsidian despite him standing right next to her. And in general it took him until COIE (which was a few months in universe) to finally relent and admit they probably were his kids.

And writers continued that trend. In Heart of Darkness where both of them were being controlled by the Starheart he basically called Obsidian a lost cause and didn’t really care that he was being controlled and only tried to stop/bargain the Starheart for Jade.

Robinson was originally going to use that for the Darkness Falls storyline. It's why in the first issue Robinson had Alan literally just not know what Obsidian was up to for the past few months, which was something Ian was going to use to manipulate him with, that his dad just didn't care enough about him to drop in despite him openly being a depressed mess in JLA. Whereas Johns changed it to a less-shitty-of-Alan "Todd is more mad that Alan just didn't know Todd existed" and then changed it AGAIN when he realized that made no sense and implied in Princes of Darkness that Alan could've followed or found their mom cause he's GL but he didn't.

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>>149470911
Wait, what's the story with him being Catholic and his twin sister not?

>>149494056
They’re were adopted to different families.

>>149493969
And found the original rumor of what the storyline was supposed to be about, from a google group in 2000 as it was coming out.

>>149493969
I find it funny how Obsidian was the first of Johns' "ackstually he was being controlled by something else and that's why he was evil" retcons.
Obsidian was controlled by the Shadowlands and not even a year later Brainwave Jr was controlled by Mr. Mind and Hal was controlled by a yellow space bug.

>>149486940
Gay/bi guys are waaaay better at sucking dick than women.

>>149470901 (OP)
I prefer Obsidian before he was gay, all of the stories that resulted from that change aren'twell thought out.

>>149492570
How much so?

>>149498082
Very much so

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>>149494164
I kinda doubt Robinson would’ve actually gone there. Alan is one of his husbandos. Probably would’ve had Obsidian tell him to fuck off and that be why Alan didn’t bother with him.

>>149496910
His storylines prior to that were following his sister around like a puppy, trying to kill himself, and being evil for flimsy reasons. Him being Will and Grace esque with Kate in Manhunter is why better than that shit.

>>149500219
*way better

>>149499453
Fair Enough.

>>149470901 (OP)
Why are their powers so different?

>>149502009
Out of story wise, Roy thought twins with opposite powers was cute.

In story, Jade just got Alan's powers and Obsidian's just kinda went unanswered beyond implying it was the dark part of the starheart. In early 00s Robinson/Johns retconned/answered it by stating Obsidian got Ian Karkull's because in All Star Squadron Annual #3 Alan and Dr Fate made him explode XX years ago and absorbed everything. Ian exploding is also one reason why the JSA was younger.

>>149472023
Todd would look cool as a suit, hat and cloak guy.

>>149502339
go away ross

>>149502113
I see

Who is older twin?

>>149504333
What Older Twin?

>>149505352
Of the two

>>149504333
They’ve never said
Dc would probably make Jade the older one though since editors and writers usually like her better though

>>149470911
I thought Jade was her real name

>>149471619
>would react if my father turned out to be gay who never loved my mother. Honestly, I would feel sick.
He can still have loved her just not been sexually attracted to her.

>>149504333
Alan

>>149470911
>she can turn herself back to being a normal white girl, she just chooses not to because she is an attention whore
She can?

>>149470901 (OP)
how do they know each other

One thing I find interesting is Obsidian originally was going to be like Jade and be a shadow all the time but had to will himself into looking like a normal guy. They should’ve kept that because it would say more about their character, as Jade likes being a hero and loves attention where’s Obsidian hates his powers and is really shy.

>>149511264
Yes

>>149513733
I don't think I've seen her as a regular human before unless I forgot

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>>149514119
Don’t worry, writers also forgot. She lost her starheart powers for like 4 years in universe but they still had her be green.

>>149479875
Who isn’t at this point?

>>149508692
Even the writers sometimes get confused about what her name is.
>>149511264
Yeppers, though now a days it’s basically unheard of for her actual appearance to be relevant. Nowadays she’s been reduced to “That one hot girl who kinda of looks like She-Hulk right?” Which is a shame but at least she has been butchered like the rest of her family.
Really it’s surprising any of them are still relevant considering how outside of the Gawks basically every JSA associated character has fallen in unimportance.

>>149515475
>at least she has been butchered like the rest of her family
She was butchered first during Marz and Winick’s GL runs and Winick’s Outsiders.
She was a somewhat self absorbed sweetheart and the window character/self insert in Infinity Inc but since Kyle was also relatively nice and the self insert of his book they decided to make her a bitch. She went from entertaining Grundy’s nonsense to refusing to believe Killer Frost would attempt to go good and attacking her under them.

>>149515475
>Even the writers sometimes get confused about what her name is.
Lol

>>149515734
>She was butchered first
Tbh I’d say Obsidian was. His entire JLA era was him wanting to kill himself. Like yeah he was depressed and angry in Infinity Inc but what the hell was that. Then he had his first bout of going evil in that shitty mini where Jade got her powers taken away.

>>149515734
Kyle has a poisoned dick

>>149516739
Todd is such a sad character. Him being gay in Katehunter is the only happy storyline/appearances he's ever had lmao.

>>149470906
he deserves the world

>>149519828
Anon you've been bumping this thread for two days now, you gotta let it go.

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>>149470911
I'm glad that we have those two.

>>149519875
two days for two birthdays

>>149470901 (OP)
Happy Birthday to them at least.