Thread 149479691

>DC Studios’ co-chief James Gunn has said repeatedly that he will only greenlight projects that have a complete script. That is a pointed difference from Marvel Studios, which famously reworks movies throughout the filmmaking process. Feige took issue with both the comparison between Gunn’s mandate at DC and Marvel’s approach, and the idea that Marvel needed to radically alter how it makes its projects.

>"I know there are filmmakers — James in my experience isn’t one of them; maybe he is now — who say, ‘If you want to be a part of my movie, you just say the words and you stay here the entire schedule in case we need you.’ We have so many actors, we can’t do that. We don’t do that. Actors, both the ones that are playing these characters for the first or second time and the characters playing them for the 10th or 12th time, are the best in the world at it and know these characters so well,” Feige said. “If they have an idea, you want to listen to it and you want to adjust to it and you want to improve it. I wouldn’t want to change that.”

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-kevin-feige-robert-downey-jr-miles-morales-1236465488/

Who was in the wrong here?

Kevin Feige sucks donkey cock.

>>149479748
WBD Gunnshills have been working overtime since Superman released

>>149479758
Fantastic 4 won’t get half as many threads kek

>Have a script ready before we greenlight it

>Take actors’ ideas into consideration when filming

I don’t understand how those two things are mutually exclusive.

Didn't this fag rework his Superman script after 5 test screenings and it still ended up highly divisive?

>>149480271
No?

You're out, Kevin

>>149479691 (OP)
It's almost certainly not about taking suggestions from the actors.

Obvious example: Feige allowed Sam Raimi and the screenwriter to write a new story for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness when shooting was delayed due to the pandemic, which meant that the actors were given a different story from what they thought they were signing on for. They gave some suggestions on the set (I recall reading Cumberbatch suggesting they reference Strange's sister) because they weren't allowed to have any input into the actual story.

Feige doesn't care much about the shooting script because he depends so much on reshoots. His working process as described in articles is that they go and make the movie and then he orders what they need to fix in the reshoot stage.

The problem is that what gets fixed in reshoots is really very minor compared to the all-powerful importance of the basic story, which there simply isn't time to change.

To go back to Strange 2 just because the whole beat-by-beat plot leaked to Reddit before reshoots started, so outsiders got a chance to sort of understand what extensive reshoots change. And the answer was nothing very important. The movie played almost exactly like that story read, just with some different emphasis.

>>149481527
OUT AM I?

>>149481850
>entire plot leaks online
>It's awful
>please don't do this
>don't do any of this
>test audiences reportedly hated it
>extensive reshoots announced
>it's still the same story, nothing has really changed
And this keeps happening, because they can't manage anymore to clear the low bar of starting out with a good story fans will want to see.

>>149479691 (OP)
fuck Feige
he is a faggot who cannot control the egos of overpaid silver screen actors
movies are a visual medium and a director has a vision
input is fine, but proven directors have the final word and Gunn proved his meddle before taking the helm in capeshit

>>149481850
You know it's kind of odd you'd just plan for reshoots, why not plan things out in a way where you'd minimize the need?

>>149482181
>and a director has a vision
I know you like to think that every director is an auteur with a vision, but a lot of them are just doing a job, and sometimes it's a job they don't really have a 'vision' for, it's just for the money, and the studio is calling the shots.

And sometimes the person who's been playing a role for years might actually have a better idea of who the character is, what they would and wouldn't do, than the studio execs, a director who's just doing the job for the money, or an exec like Feige who appears to only care for Marvel Comics source material from the Quesada era onwards, which is terrible taste.

>>149482381
Because ever since Iron Man was a messy production that got saved in the editing room, Feige has got the idea that the best way to figure out what a movie needs is to see a rough cut first.

It's a process that happens to maximize his power. The writers don't know what's going on, the director doesn't have a finished script and barely has anything to do with the action sequences, and then this whole mess is sent to Hollywood where Feige, the King, decrees that must be done.

>>149482105
>test audiences reportedly hated it

Never happened.

>>149482381
He simply learned the wrong lessons from Iron Man 1 and 2

Iron Man 1 taught Feige they could do it live and make magic and Iron Man 2 taught him they could cut the movie up wholesale and be fine

Lose a director? Hire some other guy off of TV. He gets tired of you fucking him around the second time out, who cares there's always some new set of TV directors that you can push around

>>149482670
The person who leaked the plot to Reddit said they had heard the internal screening didn't go well.

Maybe not but is it really so implausible that a divisive movie would have been divisive?