Thread 149481372

I didn't understand how people could over the weird basketball alien suit to the Superman suit

>>149481372 (OP)
nobody does. they just prefer the classic S symbol. the nu woke-media diagonal-stripe S is not only terrible, it (or a very similar variant) has been used previously to represent "Superman has massively lost his way" like in weird alternate dark future stuff. it is not the logo. Put it back
and while we're at it, stop making batman's chest-bat into a brick. it's supposed to be cool curves.

also Superman is not meant to have a collar. he has to show some clavicle.

basically no live action Superman has ever gotten it right, except maybe Lois and Clark. Because usually they make the blue far too cyan, especially Returns which darkened the red but not the blue. very odd choice.

>>149481896
>basically no live action Superman has ever gotten it right,

hard disagree

>>149481372 (OP)
The granny panties look far worse than the basketball skin.

>>149481930
Perfection.

>>149481930
The problem with a lot of simple costumes like this is that they really don't look all that great if they're too true to the source material. As much as you don't want to hear it, Reeve looks like he just walked out of a Halloween store. Superman really does benefit from alterations like making the material from thicker, fire retardant materials like pilot uniforms and parachute fabrics, which is what they claimed in the animated movie with Parasyte and Lobo. His outfit in the new movie looks like it can handle his flight speeds and the arctic weather of the Fortress.

>>149481930
Christ grandpa give it a rest.

Just give him a normal S

>>149481372 (OP)
Corenswet is the best live action suit we've ever gotten. It's so good.

>>149483708
I also saved these from that other thread because I missed that whole discussion and I'd like to point out that the MoS suit really does look so much better with brighter colors and 'trunks'.

>>149483724
I actually don't hate the Gunnman suit without the trunks but it does look like it's sorely missing something.

>>149481372 (OP)
the lines on the new one look terrible, given that it's otherwise pretty comic book like

>>149483724
The suit just looks worse without trunks. I don’t understand the preference for the onesie look

>>149483835
It's mostly people who don't read comics who think the trunks aren't 'realistic' enough or something.

Like with Batman it makes sense I guess. But with Superman, it's like, fuck off. He's literally a flying alien from outer space. let him look fantastical.

>>149481930
I'm a zoomer and concede THIS is superman

>>149481896
>kingdom come
>new woke media

>>149481930
This is literally just Superman in real life.

>>149483724
>>149484012

Look at that bulge on Cavil.

I prefer the Cavil look without the red underwear. It looks more modern, more alien and less 40's and 50s.

It's the suit I found at a thrift store and I wear it for Halloween and conventions.

>>149481372 (OP)
The issues with Corenswet's are the "S", the collar, and worse of all the retarded lines.

>>149481896
>nu woke-media

>>149482621
>The problem with a lot of simple costumes like this is that they really don't look all that great if they're too true to the source material

First off, you're an idiot. Secondly they look bad in real life because they're trying too hard to be taken seriously. Even in the comics they're meant to look a little silly. Superman's costume doesn't not look like a costume to the people inside the comic. This isn't fucking complicated but you dullards lack so much imagination and have such a stick up your ass you can't understand something this simple. People are trying too hard to not look a little goofy that they wind up looking like complete morons. lastly, you're an idiot.

>>149485677
>its supposed to be le silly
Hey retard, that's not the tone of the movie. You are a fucking moron for complaining that the serious Superman doesn't have a funny costume. Let the comedy Superman wear the funny costume.
Lastly, you're a fossil.

>>149481896
so many words just to say "I'm a retard parroting bullshit just to sound intelligent"

>>149485778
I didn't say LE SILLY you fucking illiterate. You know you can be kind of goofy without being LOLSOWACKY. But a super hero costume should look a bit hocky. Especially a character like Superman who leans into the home spun sincerity side of things. They're meant to convey the idea of the strong man. The grant theatrics side of things. You're an idiot.

>>149481372 (OP)
I love how primary colored it is and how he's in it 90% of the movie. Its got some weird modern day choices, and I know the kingdom come 'S' is so they can fight public domain down the line. But all in all I love how unashamed they were of the classic Superman look.

>>149486166
the Kingdom Come logo is because A) they can have it double as the House of El logo which resembles an S but not exactly (just like how MAWS did it), and more importantly B) Gunn described the film as a reverse-KC scenario where the established heroes/metahumans are kinda immoral or reckless in their actions and along comes Superman who sets an example for an ideal superhero, ushering in a new age of heroes that differ from previous generations in their ability to inspire hope and courage.

>>149481372 (OP)
I like the current suit, it's certainly 100% better than the one on the left but there is really no reason at all to try an improve upon this >>149481930. It's perfect. There is no reason to mess with it. You can mess with the Bat-suit or Spider-man's getup but trying to fix Superman's costume is just a waste of time.

>>149486437
Spider-Man's suit should be tampered with even less than Superman. there's a reason the Ditko design from the 60s has remained virtually unchanged, save for the black/dark blue secondary becoming lighter bule

>>149481372 (OP)
Aesthetic?

>>149485677
Lighting of harsh daylight makes everything look cheap

>>149481372 (OP)
The new Superman suit is crap. Maybe I'll get used to it over time, but right now it looks awful.
And no, I'm not a fan of Snyder or a fan of Superman. I actually want to see the movie, and I'll do it soon. But I can't lie. So far, the costume looks really awful.

>>149483708
>>149483724
Damn, the Synder suit looks so much better. Superman actually looks tough instead of like some dork in a goofy suit.

>>149481372 (OP)
The new Superman suit is crap. Maybe I'll get used to it over time, but right now it looks awful.
And no, I'm not a fan of Snyderfag or any kind of hater. I actually want to see the movie, and I'll do it soon. But I can't lie. So far, the new costume looks really awful.

>>149481372 (OP)
>how people could
Henry Cavill. He is a hot and charismatic actor and is generally well-liked by people.

>>149481372 (OP)
Gunn and Corenswet said that their version of Superman intentionally made his costume look silly so people aren't afraid of him. I think they dropped the ball because Reeveman suit is still perfect for that intent. Superman's suit as a concept is a timeless design that is impossible to look cool unless the man in it is doing something awesome.
Routhman's suit, even if it is supposed to be the same as Reeveman's despite the microscopic S insignia, looks goofy by default. But it looks cool when he is lifting an entire continent made of Kryptonite and chucking it into outer space.

>>149487835
But the problem, at least for me, is that the baggy leather suit looks silly... and ugly, plus they added those ugly New 52 lines.
they should have gone with something more like the Routh Superman suit, which looks silly but good. Again, for me at least.

I prefer the new one generally. I like that it seems real and tangible. A flight suit you can actually handle, take on and off, a true irl article of clothing. But the MOS is cool too for being so alien and stylized, a sci-fi like impossible suit.

>>149487885
>Routh Superman suit, which looks silly but good
Only after making the S larger and making the blue less garish

>>149482656
I could see Superman replacing his House of El shield for a more traditional S after the Jor-El message.

>>149485677
Loud and wrong, people like this make this kinda thing thier personality
The 2D page and what is captured in 3D on celluloid are obviously, of course, no duh two very different things. The insistence on The Flash wearing a Party City outfit for example would look AWFUL. I think you know that though and it's like a gate keepy notion. "What you think he looks silly? Yeah, you're not a *real* comic fan like me, normie casual. He's supposed to look bad!" Besides human physiology does not work like an Alex Ross painting. Actors, with few exceptions, are not this hale and hearty, can not fill these suits out. There's a reason both Pattinson and Corenswet have collars. While controversial, it does make them appear stronger and more substantial than naked traps in spandex. Obv there's a perfect medium, retaining the classic iconography and staying somewhat as close to the original as possible, but of course they need to be reimagined for live action, it's just a reality.

>>149487932
These, the tiny blue shield is awful but I'd also add that ugly deep maroon red

>>149485589
>I prefer the Cavil look without the red underwear. It looks more modern, more alien and less 40's and 50s.
I don't know what 'modern' even really means and Superman shouldn't look 'alien', he should look like a fucking superhero.

I was honestly against the trunks and bummed Gunn said he went with them, favoring the look of the final Gleason suit instead, but to my surprise they wound up looking really good in the movie. I'm not sure why or how, maybe bc the more square look, anyway I'm a fan.

Corenswet suit looks so good now, it looked weird in the first pics but after seeing the movie, it just feels right. Maybe the crest could a bit bigger but overall, looks great.

Cavill suit in other hand is starting to look weirder and weirder as time goes on, like some odd swimsuit

>>149486166
>But all in all I love how unashamed they were of the classic Superman look.

It isn't the classic look though. It's the Fortnite Superman look, which is basically just the New 52 suit with trunks.

>>149488125
Collar nowhere near that pronounced, no weird hand things, different belt, different trunks, different boots, lines that make some kind of aesthetic sense as opposed to that, longer cape, different S...

>>149487932
fair enough

>>149485677
Love Ross, but he makes the heroes look like they’re wearing Halloween costumes. Green Lantern is an official space cop, his costume shouldn’t look like spandex in my opinion. But Superman to basically wear a luchador costume, because he wears it for a similar purpose. But still, it shouldn’t look like at least look resistant to the high flying action that Superman gets into. Something like Reeve’s suit looked too flimsy. I like the idea that Supes’ suit was made of a more resistant “Kryptonian fabric”

>>149488356
Holy typos, Batman. I forgot to proof read my shit kek. Btw, can we agree that Superman should never wear a collar ever again

>>149488394
He would not look like that, he does not have that body, those traps

>>149488412
Corenswet is jacked lmao, he would definitely look something like that (especially with padding like Cavill did)

>>149487946
>Besides human physiology does not work like an Alex Ross painting. Actors, with few exceptions, are not this hale and hearty, can not fill these suits out.
Use movie magic. Pad out the suits, use more creative lighting, make the unreal feel real.

>>149489352
That's what they did. I agree w your intimation that those Tracy costumes are peak, they really are the high water mark. But things like the collars are in effect movie magic too. Anything more involved like prosthetics, on our heros at least, feels a little uncanny valley. Like the padded suits are one thing, a bit dated or played out in my opinion, but let's say prosthetic traps to match the image above. A bit ungainly.

>>149489294
>something like that
>something
You're right to hedge your bet here bc the something means a more average human neck and not that of a professional bodybuilder.

>>149485553
>>149485581
No. Superman can walk.

>>149489473
This joke has, no pun intended, expired

>>149481930
SPBP
I think the best way to do a Superman suit in live action is by giving up on trying to make it look 'realistic' and just recreate the comic book suit. It's Superman, people will accept seeing a guy in a Superman costume.

Plus I think it could be pretty funny if every other superhero was wearing some suit of tactical armor, made more realistic and shit, but Superman is out there in a 1920s carnival strongman get-up.

>>149481930
Especially for the time. They didn't exactly have tacticool back in the 70's. Reeve can't be beaten as Superman. The scene where he goes from Clark to Superman just by standing straight is never going to be beaten. Imagine Cavill or the new guy even trying that.

>>149481372 (OP)
Suit too baggy
Trunks way too big
Trunks dont work over a baggy suit
The only thing its got going for it is the colors

>>149489412
ok, but where is the leap from "well the musles won't look the same" to "we have to cover the costume with lines and textures"?

>>149481930
Dean Cain suit is better

>>149489616
He was the only good part of those films though
Thefirst film focused on drama and romantic comedy as filler cause they couldnt afford special effects for a Lex luthor who use sci fi tech for example
By the time a conflict is introduced, the film is almost over
Its a little bitt better in the second film, but it has the same problems

why are they like this?

>>149489448
you sound mad and fixated on Corenswet's physique not being good for some reason

>>149489741
Right, right. You're not clever enough to pull off this kinda rhetorical ruse anon, so please don't insult me in this way. He's in fantastic shape and I like him or his performance a lot. He does not however look like a Jim Lee drawing. Most humans don't.

>>149489802
let's be real here, Cavill pulled this off better than anyone in live action

>>149489294
Hes lanky and has a weak chin
Looks more like Peter parker
>MUH HEIGHT
Richard Keil would have been the ideal Superman then?
Corenswet has ideal looks for a classic The Joker

I've honestly never been a huge fan of Cavill's suit because I always thought the texturing was a bit much and it needed more to break up the blue at his midsection, but it does have my favorite variation of the shield. I think it does the best job of looking like an alien symbol someone could convincingly mistake for the letter S.

>>149490005
>never
More like recent consoomer copium
By the time a new Superman reboot is out, you will have proceeded to hate on Corenswet since hes old product

>>149481372 (OP)
>>149483708
>Jor-El and Lara are imperialist assholes now
>the House of El sigil is now the Kryptonian equivalent to the swastika
Will he change his logo now

>>149489616
>Cavill
He refused to do it because he thought Clark wouldn't try to stick out as a bumbling nice guy to begin with.
>new guy
He doesn't need to because he has "hypno glasses"
>imagine
They are hacks. They couldn't imagine Clark and Superman being the same person behaving differently without anybody guessing it in their world.

>>149481896
>nu woke-media diagonal-stripe
Possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read on this hellsite, and that's saying alot

>>149490048
>the House of El sigil is now the Kryptonian equivalent to the swastika
stop making shit up faggot

>>149481930
Now this is actually perfect. Too bad we can't have this now.