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Anonymous No.149482935 [Report] >>149485300 >>149486589 >>149486626 >>149486728 >>149486809 >>149486858 >>149486913 >>149488902 >>149489014 >>149489072 >>149489434 >>149489739 >>149489840
Elio
. 90% of this films failure is just because Elio and his world looks like shit. Pixar needs a better artstyle
Anonymous No.149485300 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
We know.
Anonymous No.149486589 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
It's also the name. "Elio" tells me fuck all about the movie.
Anonymous No.149486603 [Report] >>149486913 >>149489621
Anonymous No.149486626 [Report] >>149486654 >>149486905
>>149482935 (OP)
lets say they make the protagonist a blonde girl with YUGE boobs how does it get better?
Anonymous No.149486654 [Report] >>149488060
>>149486626
>autistic cutie gets bullied and gets into a relationship with a slug that soft-vores her

yeah I'd watch it
Anonymous No.149486728 [Report] >>149486831
>>149482935 (OP)
Calarts grubhub beanmouths aren't real op, they can't hurt you.
Anonymous No.149486809 [Report] >>149486852 >>149486934 >>149487035 >>149489822
>>149482935 (OP)
/co/'s "can I fap to it" litmus test for artistic appeal has little bearing outside its main demographic of entrenched social rejects/literal pedophiles, op.

Elio's failure comes from a) being a non-franchise movie and b) having been committee-retooled into yet another inconsequential by-the-numbers story with no good word to mouth to give it a second wind.
Anonymous No.149486831 [Report] >>149486842
>>149486728
Is grubhub even beanmouth? It's hideous but it's a specific type of hideous. I don't know how to describe it, but their mouths aren't beans. They're just gross.
Anonymous No.149486842 [Report]
>>149486831
Elio is more of a corporate memphislike weeaboo slop aesthetic really
Anonymous No.149486852 [Report]
>>149486809
Melmac would be a /co/mrade.
Anonymous No.149486858 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
The other 10% is a mediocre story
Anonymous No.149486905 [Report]
>>149486626
>how does it get better?
lets make Elio her boyfriend to save the human race in space.
Anonymous No.149486913 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
the whole gay aliens thing might be a reason too just saiyan
>>149486603
anthropocene elio man
Anonymous No.149486934 [Report]
>>149486809
I don't know how keeping the Gay stuff would have made it a better story per se, but I've read other tibdits about the original concept that do sound more interesting, like the core friendship being between Elio and the character that eventually became the Bad Guy(ish).

As I understand it, Elio would have been thrilled to be abducted only to find he didn't really fit in with the Aliens either; then he would make friends with one among them that was also weird and misunderstood among them.

Some bits about that structure seem to remain in the final film but make no sense, like Elio reflecting on his fear of not really being misunderstood by his peers (but actually universally worthless as a person) when he had ALREADY been warmly welcomed by the alien society.
Anonymous No.149486962 [Report] >>149487003
Disney wants to push for live action adaptations and sequels as much as possible, this is why they give a huge marketing budget to original stories: they flop and they can convice investors that the only thing they need are comfortable live actions and more of the same sequels.
Anonymous No.149487003 [Report] >>149487130
>>149486962
Your phrasing seems to suggest Disney is forcing remakes on people, but if they're indeed spending a lot of marketing for these non-legacy products as well, how are they to blame?
Anonymous No.149487035 [Report] >>149489168
>>149486809
i liked melmac but i forgot about him until i saw this pic. Wasted character.
Anonymous No.149487130 [Report] >>149487182
>>149487003
All right, i'll explain it with an example then:
Let's just say there's a fictional company called "Example Inc.", Example Inc. is a multinational mass media conglomerate whose entertainment products made billions of dollars in earnings.
Example Inc. doesn't just make original movies and tv series, but also makes live actions remakes and sequels; now, making a sequel or a live action remake is way easier than making something original: you already have a customer base from the previous movies/season, you already have characters and you seldom have to make new ones and you already know how to market it.
In contrast, making an original idea is harder: you need to make a new product from scratch, you need to market it well with all the unknown variables and it's unknown whetever it will have a public or not.
But a good chunk of the investors of Example Inc. wants new ideas, they want something new that maybe will spawn a new franchise that will bring a lot of money to the company, how do you put all the investors to shut up? It's easy: by sabotaging new ideas.
All Example Inc. has to do is to make the original idea flop at the box office, the higher the budget + marketing is then higher are the chances of the movie being a financial failure; so, they give 200 mln budget + 100 mln marketing to the new idea, so that it will need to make at least 300 mln worldwide in order to be a financial success.
Mind you, the marketing will be completely insufficent on purpose so that as few people as possible will hear about the movie, once the movie flopped at the box offie, every single person in the company that pitches original ideas will be shut immediately with: "we tried that with X movie, it didn't work" and back to the upteenth more of the same sequel of a famous franchise.
Anonymous No.149487182 [Report] >>149487333
>>149487130
I do get what you're saying, but ultimately they're not hiding those marketing costs. If the failure of a product hinges on them, the failure they're "proving" is the marketing's, not the product's.
Anonymous No.149487268 [Report]
The aliens mostly look boring too. That said, I like that the kid he makes friends with is some sort of bobbit worm thing, that's amitededly pretty cool.
Anonymous No.149487333 [Report]
>>149487182
A marketing failure is still a failure, they just have to say that: "the audiences don't go to the theaters for that".
Anonymous No.149488060 [Report]
>>149486654
drawfags get on this
Anonymous !!5XMzXh4OfC3 No.149488096 [Report] >>149488114
I have no dog in this fight, I am not the target audience, I will say that aside from the name not really telling us anything (The "John Carter" effect, but worse - some people did know about ER Burroughs) the eyepatch is a bad look for a cute character. Is it supposed to be one of those lazy eye correction patches? I didn't think they even did that anymore, medically. It doesn't look appealing IRL and 3d animation doesn't improve it.
Anonymous No.149488102 [Report]
I've barely seen his world, this movie's public identity is "ugly effeminate kid movie" and "WTF happened to his eye??"
Anonymous No.149488114 [Report]
>>149488096
The color made me assume it was literally swollen shut black eye.
Anonymous No.149488902 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
the slug alien look ugly.
Anonymous No.149489000 [Report]
It was a cool movie.
Anonymous No.149489014 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
No the Grubhub slop will continue until the box office improves.
Anonyrnous No.149489072 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
Elio failed because its two main stars are just little kids; not an adult and a kid (Hector & Miguel), not fantastical creatures or inanimate objects depicted in a 9-to-5 (Joy & Sadness, Woody & Buzz, Mike & Sully); but an 11(?)-year-old outcast and a cutesy baby slug. That already limits the film's allure to younger viewers, but not even the younger viewers who'd be interested in SPACE PIRATES or A MAD SCIENTIST'S EXPERIMENT GONE ROGUE, but a freakin' COUNCIL OF AMBASSADORS.

It was always gonna be an uphill battle for Elio.
Anonymous No.149489168 [Report]
>>149487035
He was definitely added post rewrite
Anonymous No.149489290 [Report]
It just looked boring and lame, it's as simple as that. Nobody wants soft ass sissy boy stories that only the faggot showrunners can relate to.
Anonymous No.149489434 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
NGL, every single time I see this damn pic of Elio and that slug smiling, it reminds me of how fugly this movie's art style is. It's very hard to care about something that looks so visually repulsive on so many levels.

The seemingly pointless eye patch/bandage (I'm aware it's plot related, but it's still distracting and unnecessary). The way too obvious similarity to Steven Universe, especially that scrapped "hug no jutsu" ending with Elio's evil clone. The blandness and lack of fun from the aliens' designs. It shows how much damage the wrong art direction can do to a given show, movie, etc.
Anonymous No.149489621 [Report]
>>149486603
el monstruo
Anonymous No.149489739 [Report] >>149489753
>>149482935 (OP)
The trailers had Meet the Robinsons syndrome where you're just left confused as to what the movie is actually fucking about.
Anonymous No.149489753 [Report]
>>149489739
watching it leaves you like that too desu
Anonymous No.149489822 [Report]
>>149486809
Kys shill
Anonymous No.149489840 [Report]
>>149482935 (OP)
I want to fuck Elio's aunt.
Helen Parr and the aunt from Big Hero 6 did nothing for me, but for some reason she clicks my buttons.