. 90% of this films failure is just because Elio and his world looks like shit. Pixar needs a better artstyle

>>149482935 (OP)
We know.

>>149482935 (OP)
It's also the name. "Elio" tells me fuck all about the movie.

>>149482935 (OP)
lets say they make the protagonist a blonde girl with YUGE boobs how does it get better?

>>149486626
>autistic cutie gets bullied and gets into a relationship with a slug that soft-vores her

yeah I'd watch it

>>149482935 (OP)
Calarts grubhub beanmouths aren't real op, they can't hurt you.

>>149482935 (OP)
/co/'s "can I fap to it" litmus test for artistic appeal has little bearing outside its main demographic of entrenched social rejects/literal pedophiles, op.

Elio's failure comes from a) being a non-franchise movie and b) having been committee-retooled into yet another inconsequential by-the-numbers story with no good word to mouth to give it a second wind.

>>149486728
Is grubhub even beanmouth? It's hideous but it's a specific type of hideous. I don't know how to describe it, but their mouths aren't beans. They're just gross.

>>149486831
Elio is more of a corporate memphislike weeaboo slop aesthetic really

>>149486809
Melmac would be a /co/mrade.

>>149482935 (OP)
The other 10% is a mediocre story

>>149486626
>how does it get better?
lets make Elio her boyfriend to save the human race in space.

>>149482935 (OP)
the whole gay aliens thing might be a reason too just saiyan
>>149486603
anthropocene elio man

>>149486809
I don't know how keeping the Gay stuff would have made it a better story per se, but I've read other tibdits about the original concept that do sound more interesting, like the core friendship being between Elio and the character that eventually became the Bad Guy(ish).

As I understand it, Elio would have been thrilled to be abducted only to find he didn't really fit in with the Aliens either; then he would make friends with one among them that was also weird and misunderstood among them.

Some bits about that structure seem to remain in the final film but make no sense, like Elio reflecting on his fear of not really being misunderstood by his peers (but actually universally worthless as a person) when he had ALREADY been warmly welcomed by the alien society.

Disney wants to push for live action adaptations and sequels as much as possible, this is why they give a huge marketing budget to original stories: they flop and they can convice investors that the only thing they need are comfortable live actions and more of the same sequels.

>>149486962
Your phrasing seems to suggest Disney is forcing remakes on people, but if they're indeed spending a lot of marketing for these non-legacy products as well, how are they to blame?

>>149486809
i liked melmac but i forgot about him until i saw this pic. Wasted character.

>>149487003
All right, i'll explain it with an example then:
Let's just say there's a fictional company called "Example Inc.", Example Inc. is a multinational mass media conglomerate whose entertainment products made billions of dollars in earnings.
Example Inc. doesn't just make original movies and tv series, but also makes live actions remakes and sequels; now, making a sequel or a live action remake is way easier than making something original: you already have a customer base from the previous movies/season, you already have characters and you seldom have to make new ones and you already know how to market it.
In contrast, making an original idea is harder: you need to make a new product from scratch, you need to market it well with all the unknown variables and it's unknown whetever it will have a public or not.
But a good chunk of the investors of Example Inc. wants new ideas, they want something new that maybe will spawn a new franchise that will bring a lot of money to the company, how do you put all the investors to shut up? It's easy: by sabotaging new ideas.
All Example Inc. has to do is to make the original idea flop at the box office, the higher the budget + marketing is then higher are the chances of the movie being a financial failure; so, they give 200 mln budget + 100 mln marketing to the new idea, so that it will need to make at least 300 mln worldwide in order to be a financial success.
Mind you, the marketing will be completely insufficent on purpose so that as few people as possible will hear about the movie, once the movie flopped at the box offie, every single person in the company that pitches original ideas will be shut immediately with: "we tried that with X movie, it didn't work" and back to the upteenth more of the same sequel of a famous franchise.

>>149487130
I do get what you're saying, but ultimately they're not hiding those marketing costs. If the failure of a product hinges on them, the failure they're "proving" is the marketing's, not the product's.

The aliens mostly look boring too. That said, I like that the kid he makes friends with is some sort of bobbit worm thing, that's amitededly pretty cool.

>>149487182
A marketing failure is still a failure, they just have to say that: "the audiences don't go to the theaters for that".

>>149486654
drawfags get on this

I have no dog in this fight, I am not the target audience, I will say that aside from the name not really telling us anything (The "John Carter" effect, but worse - some people did know about ER Burroughs) the eyepatch is a bad look for a cute character. Is it supposed to be one of those lazy eye correction patches? I didn't think they even did that anymore, medically. It doesn't look appealing IRL and 3d animation doesn't improve it.

I've barely seen his world, this movie's public identity is "ugly effeminate kid movie" and "WTF happened to his eye??"

>>149488096
The color made me assume it was literally swollen shut black eye.

>>149482935 (OP)
the slug alien look ugly.

It was a cool movie.

>>149482935 (OP)
No the Grubhub slop will continue until the box office improves.

>>149482935 (OP)
Elio failed because its two main stars are just little kids; not an adult and a kid (Hector & Miguel), not fantastical creatures or inanimate objects depicted in a 9-to-5 (Joy & Sadness, Woody & Buzz, Mike & Sully); but an 11(?)-year-old outcast and a cutesy baby slug. That already limits the film's allure to younger viewers, but not even the younger viewers who'd be interested in SPACE PIRATES or A MAD SCIENTIST'S EXPERIMENT GONE ROGUE, but a freakin' COUNCIL OF AMBASSADORS.

It was always gonna be an uphill battle for Elio.

>>149487035
He was definitely added post rewrite

It just looked boring and lame, it's as simple as that. Nobody wants soft ass sissy boy stories that only the faggot showrunners can relate to.

>>149482935 (OP)
NGL, every single time I see this damn pic of Elio and that slug smiling, it reminds me of how fugly this movie's art style is. It's very hard to care about something that looks so visually repulsive on so many levels.

The seemingly pointless eye patch/bandage (I'm aware it's plot related, but it's still distracting and unnecessary). The way too obvious similarity to Steven Universe, especially that scrapped "hug no jutsu" ending with Elio's evil clone. The blandness and lack of fun from the aliens' designs. It shows how much damage the wrong art direction can do to a given show, movie, etc.

>>149486603
el monstruo

>>149482935 (OP)
The trailers had Meet the Robinsons syndrome where you're just left confused as to what the movie is actually fucking about.

>>149489739
watching it leaves you like that too desu

>>149486809
Kys shill

>>149482935 (OP)
I want to fuck Elio's aunt.
Helen Parr and the aunt from Big Hero 6 did nothing for me, but for some reason she clicks my buttons.