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Anonymous No.149493950 >>149495157 >>149495614 >>149495676 >>149497299 >>149497505 >>149499576 >>149500173 >>149500899 >>149500981 >>149500992 >>149501564 >>149501609 >>149501730 >>149502043 >>149504804 >>149505882 >>149506621 >>149512792 >>149514390 >>149515803
>colossus shitty annoying sister is more relevant and popular than him
Anonymous No.149495157
>>149493950 (OP)
Well, yeah.
Anonymous No.149495614 >>149496786 >>149496870 >>149501994
>>149493950 (OP)
How old is she actually supposed to be? She went from a 9 year old to a 17 year old to a 28 year old in the span of of almost nothing in comic years.
Anonymous No.149495676 >>149496745
>>149493950 (OP)
Magic fags don't read comics.
Anonymous No.149496745
>>149495676
They mostly did until Rivals
Anonymous No.149496786
>>149495614
IIRC she's twenty five years old per her current ongoing, when you facto in the various time fuckery
Anonymous No.149496870
>>149495614
Too old
Anonymous No.149497299
>>149493950 (OP)
>mentally unstable BPD slut with body to back it up more popular than perfectly normal sibling
No shit.
Anonymous No.149497505
>>149493950 (OP)
>more relevant
Let's not get carried away here
Anonymous No.149498229 >>149501710 >>149506514 >>149512503
>shitty annoying
Anonymous No.149499576
>>149493950 (OP)
Most people recognise him as one of the xmen while having no idea he has a sister.
Anonymous No.149500173
>>149493950 (OP)
That shiny guy looks a lot like Deadpool's pal
Anonymous No.149500899 >>149500951 >>149501066 >>149501153 >>149501481 >>149501777
>>149493950 (OP)
Colossus is a boring character who's been coasting for decades on happening to be there in the X-Men relaunch that added Wolverine to the team. After Whedon brought him back from the dead to do his fanfic-tier story about how Kitty's all grown up so now it's OK for her to finally get together with Colossus, nobody really knew what to do with him and he spent the next ten years going through weird status quo shifts to try and find something that would stick, and now he's back to being an irrelevant background character who's just kept around by nostalgia and the inertia of having been around so long. The same is broadly true for Nightcrawler and Storm also being boring characters kept around by nostalgia, inertia, and men who are horny for them, but nobody's ready to have that conversation

Magik was one of the most popular characters in 80s New Mutants, and while she was mostly gone from comics for 20 years, it's difficult to argue with the fact that since her comeback, she's quickly become more popular and important than her brother. Part of it is just that costume, and waifufags, but writers actually want to do things with her, too.
Anonymous No.149500951
>>149500899
That and Anya being the literal perfect casting sparked new interest
Anonymous No.149500981
>>149493950 (OP)
Oouh!
Anonymous No.149500992
>>149493950 (OP)
People like evil women
Anonymous No.149501066 >>149504739
>>149500899
Gillen wrote both of them well, but next writers decided to undo entire complex relationship on their next meeting.
They don't want Magik to be edgy enough to have Colossus be the guy who keeps her from going too far.
Magik should be barely mentally stable. She should make Wolverine look like a Boy Scout next to her. That's where Piotr can be interesting, as the actual Boy Scout with a sense of responsibility for his younger sister.
Anonymous No.149501153
>>149500899
>Part of it is just that costume, and waifufags, but writers actually want to do things with her, too
Magic and Limbo actually gives her another dimension than just being mutant #74, so no wonder.
Anonymous No.149501481
>>149500899
>writers actually want to do things with her
I bet they're not the only ones.
Anonymous No.149501564 >>149503366 >>149504814
>>149493950 (OP)
I don't know shit about magic, but wasn't she kidnapped and sent to hell for some reason, when the actual sister of colossus got killed, her soul consumed, and then another demon, uses her dusk body as a vessel?
Why colossus still treats her like his sister if his actual sister is long gone?
Besides, the fuck? Why demon magic shit is involved in xmen at all? Wasn't she supposed to he a mutant?
Anonymous No.149501609
>>149493950 (OP)
Magik is hot and nobody cares about mid range strength generic brick unless they have some other gimmick. It's the most boring powerset and level in existence.
Anonymous No.149501710
>>149498229
Agreed. It makes no sense at all.
Anonymous No.149501730
>>149493950 (OP)
Too bad an obvious pedophile is doing his best to bury her
Anonymous No.149501777 >>149508840
>>149500899
Nightcrawler is kept around by men who are horny for him? Not women?
Anonymous No.149501994 >>149507306
>>149495614
Depends on the writer but Bendis implied she only aged physically. Also her last age jump seemed to just be so that she fit better in the cyclops crew.
>Start as a like 8 year old
>get aged up to a teen with magik
>die
>demons make you a new souless adult body
>soul gets put in which may or may not have just been teen you
It's all convoluted. But I will say with all the age jumping she hardly lived most of that life span.
Anonymous No.149502043
>>149493950 (OP)
Sex sell
Anonymous No.149503366
>>149501564
IIRC, her mutant power was to control the teleportation discs of Limbo.
Her being the top sorceress of that realm, didn't hurt matters.
Anonymous No.149504604
Anonymous No.149504739
>>149501066
You're never gonna have a man being a wrangler for a woman in modern comics. The type of female character modern (idiot) women like is precisely one that can't be controlled and answers to no one. They don't realise that this is a negative trait for Magik to have though. Colossus keeping her at bay would be seen as being too dominant and an oppressive annoyance keeping her from being her "true self".
Anonymous No.149504804 >>149504853
>>149493950 (OP)
>strong guy #45345345345 shiny edition

vs.

>Hot Magic hell lord who teleports, transforms, casts spells, and other cool shit

Gee I wonder.
Anonymous No.149504814
>>149501564
Kinda. I can't remember much myself but her story is tragic (or rather tragik) and keeping her around is not healthy for anyone. I can see a story in which Colossus keeps around her so he can pretend she's still around, while knowing she isn't real and he eventually breaks away from it and destroy her, but many people are still brought into the delusion as well, specially women and gooners.
Anonymous No.149504853 >>149506619 >>149508840
>>149504804
She's not the only one who can do that as well.
Give Colossus a good storyline and he can be equally popular and even more.
Anonymous No.149505833
Anonymous No.149505882 >>149506310 >>149507233 >>149507597
>>149493950 (OP)
I mean, Magik was abducted, sexually abused as a little girl, groomed and went through trials and tribulations to escape Limbo. Then later became its queen. She’s the X-Men’s own sorceress.
Has both heroic armored form and a sexy evil Darkchylde form.
Can teleport anywhere and can time travel.
She’s sexy as hell. And it’s attached to one man, making sexual references to uncomfortable people all the time.

Gee I wonder why she’s so popular.
Anonymous No.149506310
>>149505882
I ironically think she one of those characters that had the stupidest, nonsenical and gnarly origins ever, along with Donna Troy or hawkman/hawkgirl.
Beside really superficial stuff, that makes her really popular. As a character she really sucks.
Anonymous No.149506494 >>149506596 >>149507265
She is one of the last bastions of the smoldering remains of the male gaze in 2025. Also the whole magic thing is pretty cool too. And she has a cool sword
Anonymous No.149506514
>>149498229
Russias greatest love machine
Anonymous No.149506596
>>149506494
Maybe in comics, marvel rivals exist thanks to god and Koreans.
Anonymous No.149506619
>>149504853
He's had those a few times. Didn't stick.
Anonymous No.149506621 >>149506646 >>149514320
>>149493950 (OP)
Casuals just think of Colossus as a pedo these days.
Anonymous No.149506646 >>149507160 >>149507233
>>149506621
He fucked kitty pride, when she wasn't legal yet. So technically, he is. Since the 70's
Anonymous No.149507160 >>149507716
>>149506646
>He fucked kitty pride, when she wasn't legal yet.
Never happened, he outright turned her down. Then the X-Men gave him shit for falling in love with an adult woman during Secret Wars because Claremont was seething at Shooter for telling him to cut it out and writing that relationship himself to put a stop to it.
Anonymous No.149507233 >>149509748
>>149505882
>sexually abused as a little girl
Sauce please
>>149506646
IIRC, at the first(?) Brood / Acanti story, she came on to hin
Anonymous No.149507265 >>149509098 >>149509231
>>149506494
Magic chicks are all hot, Scarlet Witch, Zatanna, Raven, etc.
Anonymous No.149507306
>>149501994
She was also killed by the Beyonder (along with the other new mutants) in secret wars 2 and then got resurrected as a slave soldier with no memory, and then got better, cuz the beyonder is wacky and secret wars 2 is a fever dream.
Anonymous No.149507597 >>149507869 >>149514822
>>149505882
>Gee I wonder why she’s so popular.
It was the Bachalo costume. She had all the other shit in the 90s and nobody gave a fuck about her. She was dead for years and nobody cared. She came back and nobody cared. Then the costume happened suddenly she has most staying power a non 05 mutant has seen since X-23.
Anonymous No.149507716 >>149512780
>>149507160
He still kissed her multiple times which is weird. Why did Claremont do that?
Anonymous No.149507869 >>149508709 >>149508844
>>149507597
I cared about her when she was Piotr's yandere sister.
Anonymous No.149508709 >>149509032
>>149507869
Anonymous No.149508840
>>149501777
Female and gay Nightcrawler fans exist, but the gay ones seem to be a lot more vocal online.

>>149504853
>Give Colossus a good storyline and he can be equally popular and even more.
Anon, Colossus has been around since 1975. He's more than had his shot already. If it was going to happen, it would have happened by now.
Anonymous No.149508844
>>149507869
I dont get why they try to associate her with collosus, magic is just a demon, using her sister body, another soul.
Anonymous No.149509032 >>149509931 >>149510112 >>149512873 >>149514230
>>149508709
This is saldy true.
>Professor x fucking and marrying mystique?
>mystique having lesbian sex with a woman, nightcrawler being born on another relationship
>colossus being a borderline pedophile with kitty pride.
>the same can be said with Logan and Jean
Magik being just a hollow vessel for another being, but people like to think she's the real deal.
The same with psylocke being on an Asian assassin's human body.
>magneto fucking rogue
>Magneto's whole shit with all his children, in all over the world.
>cyclops becoming kinda racist to humanity and making a new country.
>his whole relationship with Jean, her clone, Emma frost and all his future children and grandchildren.
>Beast having real narcissist tendencies, because he really thinks he always knows better.
>The whole shit with storm and black panther, then storm liking to fuck Logan from time to time.
Jesus, is there an x-men who's not completely retarded or bad in the head?
Anonymous No.149509098 >>149509231
>>149507265
>Magic chicks are all hot, Scarlet Witch, Zatanna, Raven, etc.
>hot, and most of them have great boobs, even for a superheroine
It's like a universal truth of comic books, even outside of the Big 2.
Anonymous No.149509231 >>149509527 >>149509976
>>149507265
>>149509098
Never understood why batman preferred assholes like talia and catwoman when zatanna was super in love with him, even before both became superheroes.
She was the perfect girl for Bruce, then every writer started to get her involved with John Constantine for the magic factor.
Anonymous No.149509527 >>149509976
>>149509231
From the perspective of people whose job it is to write Batman comics, you don't really want Bruce to have a girlfriend who could solo his entire rogues gallery, probably all of them at once. It would really emasculate him. It's the same reason any pairing with a low- or non-powered hero and a more powerful heroine is always doomed unless he doesn't have his own solo book and they're both just on the same team.

>then every writer started to get her involved with John Constantine for the magic factor.
Fans of Zatanna and fans of Constantine both seem to dislike this, but so many writers at DC from New 52 onwards keep trying to push it. Is it just because it's an Alan Moore idea? He never meant it to be something lasting, but it wouldn't be the first time cape comics writers did something just to pay homage to one of their idols, while completely failing to understand what that idol was doing.
Anonymous No.149509748
>>149507233
Read the 1980s comics
Anonymous No.149509931
>>149509032
>Jesus, is there an x-men who's not completely retarded or bad in the head?
Maybe Dazzler?
Anonymous No.149509976 >>149510321
>>149509527
Bullshit, with that logic dick grayson would have the same problem with starfire, I can't see why bruce should havale that problem when even zatanna was aware of bruce wanting to do stuff his own way but she still wanted to love him. But we know catwoman is on a special spot for being the most popular batman love interest.
A good writer shouldn't have that kind of problem you juat need more imagination.
>>149509231
Modern readers just know asshole talia, when talia used to be a good cinnamon girl in contrast to ra's al gul evil.
But modern writers started to ignore this and started to write her as beig as evil, of not worse than ra's. She was even at war with batman in the batman incorporated story.
Anonymous No.149510112 >>149510827
>>149509032
Gambit.
If he hadn't met the x-men, he could have returned to NOLA with his still wife, have kids, take leadership in the guild, retire, and living the normal life both wanted to live.
Anonymous No.149510321 >>149516156
>>149509976
>Bullshit, with that logic dick grayson would have the same problem with starfire
That basically proves my point, anon. They were a couple when they were both characters in Titans, and that was Dick's 'home' book. When the Batman office wanted him back, it was over, and as he went on to get his own solo book, they've never gotten back together in any lasting, significant way.

>A good writer shouldn't have that kind of problem you juat need more imagination.
If you have a hero and heroine as a couple, you're just going to get readers wanting to see them teaming up all the time, and you'd have to deliberately handicap her and downplay her power level so she wouldn't emasculate him. Alternatively, if she chooses to 'not get involved' in his own superhero career, you'll get readers questioning the morality of her not helping out when she's risking her life, and it basically takes a powerful heroine and relegates her to being a trophy girlfriend for the guy to come home to.

It's a much better idea to just give the guy a civilian love interest or someone on a similar power level to himself.
Anonymous No.149510827
>>149510112
Rogue ruining everything as always.
Anonymous No.149512503
>>149498229
SNIFFFFFFFFFF
Anonymous No.149512780
>>149507716
He'd been hanging around John Byrne a lot and they found a lot of common ground.
Anonymous No.149512792
>>149493950 (OP)
Saar
Anonymous No.149512873
>>149509032
Soft Serve.
Anonymous No.149514230
>>149509032
I want to say Banshee but I'm fairly sure he's dead right now. Instead... Canonball? He's not the brightest fellow but he hasn't had any edgy retcons and since he's kinda of out of focus he wasn't too badly effected by Krakoa's weird moral greyness.
Anonymous No.149514320 >>149516172
>>149506621
Twittertrannies aren't casuals and normies dumbfuck. Normies know Colossus from Deadpool and the X-men movies.
Anonymous No.149514390
>>149493950 (OP)
No shit, people care more about one of Chris Claremont's best written characters than a silver pedophile.

Name a Colossus story with half as much motion as Inferno or Fall of the New Mutants.
Anonymous No.149514822
>>149507597
>It was the Bachalo costume. She had all the other shit in the 90s and nobody gave a fuck about her.

THIS. It's literally the hot costume, that's why people even look at that character in the first place.

Also the reason no one cares about Laura anymore is because Laura stopped wearing her hot costume.
Anonymous No.149515803
>>149493950 (OP)
ToT
Anonymous No.149516156
>>149510321
>It's a much better idea to just give the guy a civilian love interest or someone on a similar power level to himself.
Aside from Scott and Jean, most if not all male x-men would benefit more from a relationship with a non mutant.
Anonymous No.149516172 >>149516196
>>149514320
Most people know xmen from movies and the cartoon and Colossus was there, so they know him. Magik was not in any of those so if you ask them if "metal guy" has a sister, they'd tell you "ah?"
Anonymous No.149516196
>>149516172
>Magik was not in any of those