I never see anyone discuss this, even amidst all the constant culture wars on /co/, so let's try to have a reasonable discussion about this.

I don't care about lesbians in cartoons and whatnot, but one thing that keeps bugging me is how, in the animation released in the last decade, the female characters are often not allowed to have boobs. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part, it's all either sticks or shortstacks, with flat or really small chests.

Now I'm an ass person more than a boobs person, but this still feels kinda wrong to me. It's fine if there are SOME flat characters, but when it's being done so much it starts to feel like deliberate censorship.

I've been thinking about potential reasons for this and right now I think it has to be a mix of these three factors:
>1) female writers and artists in Hollywood are insecure about their boob size and try to make it a non-factor in their work, creating a perfect fictional world where they will never be judged for having small boobs
>2) it's part of the effort to dilute gender barriers in order to homogenize products as much as possible; if you pretend boobs don't exist then you can focus on sexualizing asses on both males and females and erase gender differences; depending on how schizo you want to get this can feed into the trans movement or trying to turn all the males gay or whatever but I think it's primarily about trying to slowly erase the concept of a gendered target demographic
>3) good ol' American puritanism, this is readily accepted in part because many out-of-touch business people in the industry still think kids' media should be sanitized as much as possible because that's how it was 50 years ago when they were kids

Do you anons think I'm onto something? Do you have any explanations of your own for this?

nah don't worry about it

>>149508046 (OP)
There's two good reasons why Encanto isn't flat

>>149508046 (OP)
Kikes are trying to normalize attraction to people with flat chests, aiding in the push for both homosexuality and pedophilia, along with stigmatizing natural heterosexual attraction ("denormalization" or "abnormalization" of therein).

This isn't a new thing at all OP. It's why the misnomer of "pixar mom" exists. Even though you'll find bigger tits back then(not by much though), animators were still absolutely more awkward about drawing bigger boobs but were fine with drawing big asses and wide hips when they wanted to indicate a woman was mature and developed. Because boobs are seen as crossing the line and cartoons are viewed as being for kids

>>149508126
Perfectly fine, okay, and good when Japan(honorary Aryans) does it since forever

>>149508151
>You didn't explicitly condemn [thing]?
>You must actively condone and praise [thing]!
Xitter is three sites down, bud

>>149508215
Xitter is for arguing
I am simply stating a fact :)

>>149508046 (OP)
>I never see anyone discuss this
It's been ALLL we've talked about for like 10 years

Tina season 1

Tina season 6

>>149508151
Japs draw flat and not flat chests. They even draw humungous boobs. They draw the full spectrum.
The latest wave of feminist western animation erases boobs from existence completely.

>>149508312
So they're just degenerates with no standards

>>149508293
>>149508303
Sorry, that's my bad. Around season 4, I started draining Tina's titty milk a lot more frequently to fuel my gainz.

>>149508293
>>149508303
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT HOT ENOUGH

>>149508046 (OP)
Been a thing since the late 90s at least - tits aren't "family friendly."

>>149508046 (OP)
>not allowed to have boobs
>censorship
its just a choice made by the creators

>>149508601
It's a choice made by women

>>149508046 (OP)
OP have you ever considered stop watching porn lately?
>1) female writers and artists in Hollywood are insecure about their boob size and try to make it a non-factor in their work, creating a perfect fictional world where they will never be judged for having small boobs
>2) it's part of the effort to dilute gender barriers in order to homogenize products as much as possible; if you pretend boobs don't exist then you can focus on sexualizing asses on both males and females and erase gender differences; depending on how schizo you want to get this can feed into the trans movement or trying to turn all the males gay or whatever but I think it's primarily about trying to slowly erase the concept of a gendered target demographic
>3) good ol' American puritanism, this is readily accepted in part because many out-of-touch business people in the industry still think kids' media should be sanitized as much as possible because that's how it was 50 years ago when they were kids
Meds. Now.

>>149508770
I don't watch porn. Do you have a better explanation in mind?

bump

You know artists have to follow strict guidelines right? They're told not to lewd for a reason.

>>149510584
Because it makes women mad.

>>149510631
Why should making men hard be considered more important than not making women mad?

>>149510854
Because Men>women

>>149510584
That reason being?

This always seemed crazy to me because black women seem to default at overweight, and they have absolutely giant knockers even when they aren't very attractive. You'd think they would be trying to represent black women in politically conscious media.

>>149510584
I understand if you're saying we don't need to be showing off cleavage and shit, but it honestly kind of seems fucked up to consider a woman lewd just because she ended up with large breasts, which isn't uncommon.

>>149510515
Andrea Davenport if she was hot(part fish)

>>149512239
>it honestly kind of seems fucked up to consider a woman lewd just because she ended up with large breasts
Sadly that's just how it works irl. Even children with overdeveloped bodies get sexualized by their peers and adults

>>149512368
Imagine the smell.

>>149512570
>Sadly that's just how it works
Very american take

>>149508046 (OP)

hey so flatty here , i reject your big silicone propaganda . foot binding is far more fem

>>149512904
Go back 2 china

>>149510584
Things used to be better.

>>149508601
I bet you think all the interracial couples are organic, too.

>>149510584
Sounds like an American directive.

A woman having breasts was one of the stand-out things about the pretty mediocre Inside Job.

>>149508046 (OP)
Well it had already been said here, but I agree that it is likely because boobs are automatically seen as an oversexualization, whereas asses not to much, and, since cartoons are usually either directed towards a younger audience OR they want to pass the image of being deep/serious, OR just want to appeal to an audience that might feel offended, they just opt to nerf the boobas.

I don't know if this is just an american thing, or if it applies to the rest of the west, though.

Swear to fuck I saw this thread posted before with the exact same OP text and shit.

>>149508046 (OP)
It's porn. What you are searching for is porn. Go watch porn.
>but muh cartoons
There are a thousand things to reasonably reminisce about, pertaining to the past. Sex/sexuality in cartoons isn't one of them. You live in an era where a thousand different Western artists make quite the glut of high-grade smut. The future is LLMs that steal from those artists to make whatever non-Euclidean fapbait your diseased brain can conjure. If that's your worry, go jack off and shut the fuck up about what "used to be". You are neither mentally open nor intellectually equipped to handle the subjects that led to "puritanism" in PG cartoons, and if we were to talk about it leftyfags would scream "REEEEEEEE BACK 2 /pol/!". Make a better thread next time, shithead.

>>149508046 (OP)
Diet anime and beanmouth

>>149513366
>I don't know if this is just an american thing, or if it applies to the rest of the west, though.
I'd say it's generally an Anglo thing.
Anglos are weird, they get super bent out of shape over cartoons but are a-okay with pop stars dressing like strippers and little girls imitating whores on TikTok.

It amazes me how many faggots here base their entire perspective on women from porn. Fun fact: most women have small tits. It's why the implant industry is a thing.

>>149513521
>Fun fact: most women have small tits.
Objectively false, as most women nowadays are overweight.

>>149510515
>>149512709
>good designs stuck in a shit movie
hate when that happens

>>149513521
>Fun fact: most women have small tits.
Not in my country. 14 years old girls here have bigger tits than most modern Hollywood actresses

>>149513838
Denmark?

>>149508046 (OP)
PLEASE go masturbate before entering /co/.

>>149508046 (OP)
She-Ra struck me as the most obvious example of trying to ignore breasts since there was how many scenes where angles should have shown cleavage or even a slight curve but nope, show makes them completely flat.

>>149508215
You are the last kind of fucking person who should complain about that

Most of the examples you posted are shows intended for younger audiences/kids. So no fucking shit most of the female characters in such shows aren’t going to be super busty.

>>149515442
Big tits aren't even allowed in "adult" shows like Invincible

>>149515521
I can at least understand the gripe there since that’s aimed at adults. But in regards to shows with kids in mind and shit. Well truth be told I find it kinda fucking stupid to complain about.

It's actually insane and doesn't get openly talked about enough. Not only women characters showing any skin is forbidden now, but basic human biology seems to have been banned as well. Everyone looks like a boy, everything is flat, no curves whatsoever, everyone must be as androgynous as possible. It's insane how much censorship and prudeness there is. Christian Inquisition tier. Of course, unless it's about shoehorning faggots and troons into cartoons. Then it's fine, somehow. Also, fuck gen alpha faggot trannies for endorsing these things. This generation is worse than 2010's SJWs. They are that, but on steroids.

>>149508626
make your own content if you dont like it
>>149513220
creators make choices for reasons, some better than others

>>149508046 (OP)
What are you implying here?

This is from She-Hulk's last run.

>>149508046 (OP)
Why is K-pop Demon Hunters in there? The girls in that have figures and tits, they’re just small because Korean.

>>149508046 (OP)
I think it's a mixture of lack of sexuality, and trying to get children used to the way trannies look.

Many people who design these characters are either straight women, gay males, or liberal males who are taught that sexualizing women is bad. Back then most of the people designing characters were straight males.

There are tons of trannies in the animation industry, spreading their agenda through childrens cartoons (and even video games and television).
I remember seeing an article about the last of us part 2, and how they tried to make the females more androgynous, including smaller breasts (notably the face and body reference for Dina has large breasts, and they made them much smaller for her in game model) or none at all (abby, who straight up has no breast tissue, they just referenced male chests for her model) looking to be friendly to trannies. Basically male trannies either have flat chests due to being male, or if they are on hormones grow very small "breasts", never big ones, due to male bodies not having breast tissue like female ones. And it also explains why female characters are not as curvy anymore. Estrogen will give males fat in the hips and butt area, but not much. Unlike females, who usually have a lot of fat in those areas.

>>149508046 (OP)
>OP upset 2D Korean women are flat

Boy do I have some bad news about 3D Korean women for you

>>149515442
>>149515566
I dunno why Americans think kids are going to turn into degenerates if they see some cartoon titties, especially when you guys stick phones in their hands from the time they can read because you're too fucking lazy to raise them properly.
Pic related is from a show that airs at 5:30 in the afternoon, no one had their life destroyed because some 10 year old saw a girl in a bikini.

>>149512171
Women will get them fired.

>>149512239
What you described is the lie. The truth is when a woman sees another woman with larger breasts she feels threatened. It's irrational so it doesn't matter if the other woman is in person on tv, or a cartoon. The boobs make her mad.
Now consider half of all women have below average breasts. Now also consider how women with medium and larger breasts are constsntly adulated with praise from.men. small breastsed women see this and it makes them bitter. It's a recipe for any woman in any organization to get a creative veto. A woman could be an assistant handing an animator coffee see a curve representing the underside of a boob and cry sexual harassment, and get shit done.
In reality it's not necessary. There's a woman installed.into a position of creative control as a rule, and she knows her job is to be a feminist. Which only makes her irrational impulses worse.
That's why we have grown women with flat(flat like a man's) chests in animation.

>>149508046 (OP)
Women(who have taken a larger role in direction) are uncomfortable with sexualized female bodies so much big tiddies are a no-no currently.

>>149515874
It's pretty bad, bad enough I watched the new superman movie and Kat dennings had big tits and a low cut shirt , it reminded me things used to be better

>>149508046 (OP)
In the case of the foid samurai isn’t she literally pretending to be male? Tits on an otherwise fit frame are a bit of a giveaway.

i think the woke era of the mcu was interesting
all the male heroes had to show a naked chest
while all the women had to wear full body suits

OP sounds like a genuine schizo and I don’t know why any of you would even humour them.

>>149518865
So are medium and small titties. As much as women are threatened by larger breasts, smaller breasts make them feel superior.

Also, and thus is a big part of it. Most women in the professions take HRT via their birth control pills. It changes their vision of attractiveness. They like see more masculine women and more feminine because of it.

>>149515999
I do make my own content
And the reason creators make these choices is to avoid getting fired.

>>149518939
Ok
Try this
Open your eyes and look.
The female characters are being masculinized. The studios are putting out psa about how heckin great the global homosexual agenda is. In california you're required by law to hire women into management including the board.
It's the epicenter of the trans agenda, fem ism, and anti-traditionalism.
These are facts they brag about.

>>149519026
You just sound like some delusional schizo.

>>149519042
Watch now he'll say
>what's wrong with that?
It flips between not being true and being good.

The jews pushes trans propaganda because of baphomet worshipping

>>149508046 (OP)
You seem to like Flat, lol.