Thread 149512828

>Batman 2 is another mystery movie
Should we give up on ever seeing Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, etc in the Reeves movies

>>149512828 (OP)
Poison Ivy sucks.

>>149512828 (OP)
I like the Mystery angle. This version of Batman is more grounded in reality

>>149512860
I'm glad we're getting Batman movies that are realistic. We've seen so little of those

>deeper corruption

Literally EVERYONE OF NOTE in Gotham was in on the corruption uncovered in the first film. How could he possibly get "deeper" than that? Are we gonna find out this goes back centuries?

>>149512892
You’ll take your Court of Owls and you’ll fucking love it.

>>149512828 (OP)
Why the hell is the bat logo the same place holder bat logo the DCU using?

>>149512981
>>149512879
>>149512828 (OP)
Because Robert Patterson going to be the DCU Batman.

>>149513004
WHAT

>>149512828 (OP)
Court of Owls with the Grayson murders and the Talons.

>>149512892
>>149512912
and thats the thread over, pack it up boys.

>>149512892
>Court of Owls
>League of Assassins
>Curse of the Goat

I dunno, guys, sometimes I think Reeves is a little too far up his own ass.

>>149513004
Another Batman ruined

>>149513075
He's been writing this shit for 3 years, I'd say so.

>Should we give up on ever seeing Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, etc in the Reeves movies
Do you really need that? They've been in movies. They've been in the cartoons. You know where you can see them? In the comics. God forbid an adaptation not just devolve into meaningless fan service by parading out every character possible

>>149513004
Yeah, that's what we need, more grounded movies about mentally ill billionaires who dresses up like a bat to beat up poor people.

I've given up on getting a good Batman movie, at this point I just wish they'd stop.

>>149513154
>we jus be poor people.
>t.Subway thug

>>149513154
I liked Batman Begins.

>>149513016
>>149513079
>>149513154
Why is this a shock to anyone? Soon as Dick Greyson announced for the Batman 2. We stop hearing about Damian Wayne in a Batman movie.

>>149512892
Court of Owls, The Black Glove, Hurt's cult, the founding families?

>>149513174
Unless he's only going after white collar criminals then, yes, "grounded and realistic" Batman is just an insane failson who wages class warfare. Grounded and Realistic is fucking stupid for a super rich guy who dresses up like a bat and beats up a clown or a man in a jumpsuit covered in question marks.

>>149513177
The Nolan movies have aged like milk. Milk in the trunk of a Geo Metro.

>>149512828 (OP)
>Should we give up on ever seeing Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, etc in the Reeves movies
Unironically yes, specially since they moved Clayface to the DCU, it's stupid to imagine they'd dare to do something sightly fantastical.

>>149512828 (OP)
A mystery? What the fuck? Is Batman some sort of greatest detective or what?

>>149513214
But it makes perfect sense.
A child that holds a grudge someone who murdered his own parents is going to want to grow up and beat violent thugs.
Maybe you don't like it because you are a woman.

>>149512828 (OP)
its gonna suck

>>149513284
Yeah that's another thing, isn't it? Not only does The Batman kind of go overboard on the shitty class politics, in the movie itself Batman doesn't really do a whole lot of good. Riddler gets everybody on his kill list with the exception of Bruce himself and that's only because Bruce IS Batman and so wasn't available at the time. Riddler also successfully floods the city. Batman in the movie kind of sucks.

>>149513267
>Is Batman some sort of greatest detective or what?
Not Matt Reeves Batman. He’s the most retarded Batman. He wasn’t even smart enough to stop Riddler from flooding Gotham.

>>149513108
That's silly. Of course I want to see Batman doing Batman stuff, and I'd much prefer him do classic stuff than Snyder and King era things.

>>149513327
>Batman in the movie kind of sucks.
That's why it feels so real. He's human so he obviously can't always be on the top of his game.
All the other superheroes have to succeed by real life doesn't work that way. You can't win em all.

>>149513105
>spending 3 years to write yet another Batman movie that will be mid at best
What a loser.

>>149513397
>Not Matt Reeves Batman. He’s the most retarded Batman. He wasn’t even smart enough to stop Riddler from flooding Gotham.
That just makes him fit in with James Gunn Superman getting his ass kicked a lot. Along with bonding over shitty parents and music taste.

>>149513108
Mr. Freeze doesn't been done properly in a movie yet, so yes. I klinda want him.

>>149513538
That's really the conclusion I've gradually come to. This movie was mediocre at best and the sequel will be the same.

Also it was way too fucking long. Jesus Christ I couldn't believe how long I sat in the theater watching this dumb movie.

While I liked The Batman I question if it needed a sequel. I'm more interested in seeing DCU Batman and what they do with him given that it can be a bit more fantastical

>>149513571
They've also taken too long to start filming the sequel. Pattinson seems to be aging at an unfortunate clip. Which, in hindsight, I guess we should have seen coming since he's an Anglo.

>>149512828 (OP)
>Should we give up on ever seeing Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, etc in the Reeves movies
of course not, they're in the next movie! Mr. Freeze is a cold blooded murder (nothing else) and Poison Ivy is an eco-bitch that poisons people (in the normal way, with syringes)

>>149513004
this is the most retarded take by the way
reeves want a grounded take while dcu batman is everything fantastic about the character

>>149513609
>Body armor so good Robert Patterson let himself get shot up with AK-47s and full auto M4s
>Nanotechnology contacts that can stream and record 4K footage along with recording audio
Nigga please. Robert Patterson Batman the most fantastical live action Batman. Not even Ben Affleck Batman let himself get shot up or used Nanotech.

>>149512912
>Court of Owls
I, for one, cannot wait for that and the Thomas Wayne BAD.

>>149512860
Fuck reality, I wanna see Batman fight a giant bat creature and do cool ninja shit

>>149513682
I mean, Mystery and Man-Bat do go together.

>>149512828 (OP)
How do you make a compelling Batman mystery story without resorting to "one of his famous rogues gallery did it?"

>>149513647
>Not even Ben Affleck Batman let himself get shot up
Affleck Batman was point blank shot in the head

>>149513647
Pattinson Batman also crashed into a steel bridge and survived without even breaking a bone. He actually has durability straight out of the comics in the film.

What we need is a Batman movie more like pic related.

>>149512828 (OP)
Court of Owls movie. I'd bet money on it.

>>149512828 (OP)
Depends. If Reeves is going to end it on a trilogy (if this isn’t his last movie) he’ll probably do court of owls. If we can get up to like 6 movies I’m sure Mr.Freeze will be in there somewhere.

I sure hope there's a car chase scene, oh boy how do I love those scenes in capeshit movies

I just want deathstroke

Soon

>>149513647
He also took an explosion to the face.

>>149513870
Are gunnfags really this desperate?

>>149513989
its not even gunnfags who do this, its shills, unless you mean gunnfags are shills then yeah okay.

>>149513989
It is just one autist obsessed with The Batman being in Gunn’s Superman.

This is like the fifth thread he made on the topic. And he gets really upset when anons don’t want his retarded of a jobber of a Batman to be the main Batman.

>>149514020
>>149513989
>>149514007
Most gunfags are the same Synderverse pajeets. They just moved on to James Gunn worship.

>>149513284
>>149513327
Isn't that the point? This Batman isn't Christopher Nolan's Batman. He's a newb that is only just starting out. Besides that, a Batman who tries to stop crimes before they happen leads to a paranoid Batman. Batman's worst moments are when he's paranoid. It's stuff like that which caused Tower of Babel and Failsafe to happen.

"Gunnfags" Don't even want Pattison. It's okay for it to be a separate thing

>>149512828 (OP)
Ivy sucks tho? That said no Mr.Freeze is saddening. The real crimes is never getting clayface

>>149514091
>This Batman isn't Christopher Nolan's Batman. He's a newb that is only just starting out. B
funny thing is, he's already lasted longer than Nolans Batman. Nolan's Batman had a few months in Begins, the Joker case starts very soon after, and he retires.
Pattinson Batman had been at it for two solid years.

>>149514150
They are literally making a Clayface movie anon.

I just want Clayface, Killer Croc, and Man-Bat.

>>149514168
Ah, you're right. Sorry, I guess I was filtering his training arc under Ra al Ghul as being Batman.

>>149514213
yeah that's sort of the funny thing, by existing for longer than a year or so both Pattinson Batman and Corenswet Superman have outlasted Bale Batman and Cavill Superman

>>149513191
Greyson is way better than getting Damian as Robin first.

>>149514168
An odd take on Batman in retrospect

>>149512828 (OP)
I mean all these villains could still work in a more realistic world, their powers just wouldn't be over the top like in the comics

>>149514091
I would have liked him to stop the city from flooding. I don't think that's too much to ask.

Also it's hilarious that everyone Riddler took out was a baddy so they had to hastily shoehorn him instigating a Gamer Rebellion to kill a bunch of innocent people, just to make sure nobody watching the movie took his side. It's like Reeves forgot to make his villain actually villainous until the third act.

>>149514352
he literally left a clue about carpets in the first crime. batman should have spotted that. if anything its batty mans fault

>>149512828 (OP)
I mean…Batman is a detective superhero. They call him the “World’s Greatest Detective”. They specifically made the Robin character to give him a sidekick to talk to as he solves mysteries like Holmes had with Watson. He’s from a comic book called “Detective Comics”. Some of my personal favorite arcs I’ve read in trades center on Batman solving some kind of mystery. And yet that seems to be very neglected in many of the movie adaptations. It’s not really a bad thing if they lean into it for one version of the character. We’re about to get Muschetti’s version which exists in a universe with pocket universes and superdogs anyway.

>>149512828 (OP)
I mean, it could be the mystery of the frozen corpses or something, who knows

>>149514557
>We’re about to get Muschetti’s version
That nigga isn't directing Batman. Gunn is too online and knows that people hated The Flash.

>>149513004
>>149513191
Gunn already said he's Elseworlds. If anything, this confirms Battinsons is not DCU's Batman.

>>149513700
Too bad at least half the fanbase will scream "It's Doctor Langstrom!" In theaters.

>>149512912
>>149512892
IMAGINE.

This is how we get the Batman Who Laughs on the big screen.

>>149512828 (OP)
>first film is epic mystery
>big reveal is that gothams institutions and senior public figures are corrupt
Woaaah never saw that coming

>>149514091
>Pattinson does become the DCU's Batman
>His failures in his movies cause him to become paranoid in the eventual Justice League movie which is either Tower of Babel or Brother Eye
>Him being the 'villain' is a twist to normies, ending in him being removed from the Justice League but Superman placing his trust in him due to seeing his true character.
>Movie ends with Bruce at the circus and seeing a pair of acrobats fall, hearing a child crying out.

>>149516913
That "Batman's a fascist" line from Blue Beetle actually makes sense if they're going to rescue that character.

>>149512828 (OP)
>literally the founding father of DETECTIVE Comics
>people are upset that we finally getting movies leaning into the actual detective angle

>>149512892
>92
Founding fathers were part of bat demon cult

Let's play a little game, /co/. Take a Batman villain and give him or her the Reeves treatment. I'll start.
>Mr. Freeze
>mob-employed killer for hire
>his day job is working at a butcher shop or ice cream parlor
>does hits to pay for his ailing wife's cancer treatments
>his M.O. consists of freezing his victims with liquid nitrogen before shattering them to pieces and throwing the pieces into Gotham Bay
>his skin has a very slight blueish tint because he spends so much time in his meat locker
>expect multiple references to Richard Kuklinski

>>149518094
because they're badly written detective stories. Batman didn't get how "winged rat" might sound like a bat.

>>149513682
You will get that in the DCU. Battinson is gonna be the semi realistic Batman while the DCU Batman will be closer to the comics as in more fantastical.

>>149518344
It's incredible how few people managed to do it competently.

>>149518344
This

The highlight of Battinson's movie was beating Doug Walker to death, everything after that was a long tumble downhill.

>>149512828 (OP)
Court of Owls feels like the type of thing Reeves would want to do as long as he's allowed to cut the more fantastical edges off and just keep the secret shady Gotham Elite cult side of it

Quite frankly, everything about a "realistic" Batman is an enormous wank and cope, because in the ACTUAL real world Batman wouldn't be able to exist for long without his identity being uncovered. I remember reading about this back when the Nolan movies were coming out. You couldn't actually have somebody operating as Batman for long without their cover being blown, no matter how much care you took to hide the secret. It's a simple fact that the sheer logistics of being Batman would leave a trail of clues that inevitably led back to Bruce within a matter of months, if not weeks.

So EVERYTHING about the very idea of Batman is fantastical, and trying to make him "realistic" is a fool's errand. As >>149513647
and >>149513752 have pointed out, Pattinson Batman is already superhumanly durable in a way no amount of armor and training should be able to account for. The movies are NOT realistic, it's just a matter of how much of a veneer of fake "realism" they want to put up. And in that case, I actually wouldn't mind leaning into the more fantastical elements of the character and having villains like Poison Ivy, Clayface, and Mr. Freeze.

>>149520983
Look at this dumb incel, doing the old "Bruce Wayne is Batman" conspiracy. Your supposed footage looks janky as fuck, it's obviously a deepfake. Plus there's this timestamped footage of him doing a charity ball at Wayne Manor. Bet you're just a chud who got big mad he roasted Drumpf that one time, you MAGAdumbs never change. Anyways reported, enjoy your ban. :)

>>149512849
my penis

>>149512828 (OP)
Good, maybe they'll actually make a mystery movie this time instead of having the main villain reveal the entire mystery on TV

>>149512892
>>149512879
>>149512828 (OP)
You got an Oscar caliber actor as Penguin on a fucking streaming series so you might get Ivy or Freeze but they will be secondary characters, not the main villain and you fanboys won't be happy with the version you get of the main villain.

Also, don't know why everyone was so hyped up about Matt. He doesn't care about your batgod any more than Nolan did and all Matt really wanted was the freedom to get his passion shit greenlit and money spent on it, the way Nolan managed to get out of his trilogy. It's just that Matt isn't competent enough to quickly shit out two movies to get this to happen as fast as Nolan got it to happen.