Thread 149523833

Feels like it was missing something

>>149523833 (OP)
a Lex Luthor who made sense.
a Jor-El who wasnt a murderous psycho.
a militarized Lex Luthor base that can get reinforcements within an hour after a violent attack.
a better security system for containing Superman that isnt just an emotional guy.

>>149523833 (OP)
well u will get it in Supergirl

>>149523833 (OP)
A prequel

>>149523833 (OP)
Superman should have snapped Lex's neck.

>>149524173
where would he get the kryptonite rom

It was too stuck in the Silver Age and made too many assumptions about what you already know about Superman. I can understand not wanting to recycle the origin story, but some things like Kryptonite being Superman's weakness just come from nowhere. It's a movie for a specific era of Superman fans, but that era was 50 years ago.

>>149524173
>a Lex Luthor who made sense

Sir, this is a comic book movie.

>>149524236
>some things like Kryptonite being Superman's weakness just come from nowhere
This is such a widely known weakness that kryptonite is in our vernacular as a catch all term for a weakness.
There is no need to explain it

>>149524236
Yeah I was really confused by the whole kryptonite thing. It's such an obscure deep cut reference, how are regular audience going to understand that?!

>>149524216
He can get kryptonite from Rex while keeping him in a seperate cube. Pretty EZ if you're not retarded like Gunn.

>>149524269
>>149524313
You have to at least introduce something if it's going to come up as a plot point. It just takes five seconds to mention it earlier in the story. Might as well not mention that Superman is from Krypton, and just keep calling an alien with zero context because "everyone knows".

>>149524361
They literally introduce it thought. They talk about how will they restrain him because there's no kryptonite left on earth, and Lex says something along the lines of "I have a solution to that problem" in reference to the element dude.

>>149523833 (OP)
Yeah a single fucking storyline instead of juggling 15
Remove the Jimmy/Tess storyline and replace it with Clark and Lois investigating and the movie improves ten-fold immediately

I didn't like how Superman got his ass kicked the entire movie. The movie states he's been active for 3 years so I expected him to be decently capable as a combatant, but he couldn't even land some decent shots on Ultraman until the drones were gone. It got kind of exhausting after a while

>>149524216
have armed guards taking shifts watching them both. Easy.

>>149523833 (OP)
I liked all of it, just wish they picked a more badass song for when Mr Terrific was doing his shit

>>149524938
i dont mind the idea of Superman getting beat up by a clone of himself, however i think it's very stupid that apparently Lex is just actively calling out the fight moves... yeah bro... i'm sure the guy who's faster than a speeding bullet can't react to attacks that need to be literally called out by a third person... Of course, the cloning in general is a problem of it's own considering Lex was able to make an entire clone of Superman from a single hair... and can make the clone completely obedient, but the clone is really dumb at the same time? How can you make a clone of Superman, powers and all, but you can't make him intelligent enough to make tactical decisions of his own? You couldn't use the DNA and cloning technology to make multiple enhanced individuals or something? Shit doesn't make sense, even for a Superman movie.

>>149525034
Mr. Terrific's assualt on the base was cool and all until he stayed there for seemingly HOURS and NOTHING HAPPENED. Wouldn't there be CONSTANT communication???

>>149523833 (OP)
who even watches these

>>149525086
who doesn't

>>149523833 (OP)
He's only Clark Kent for one scene.

>>149524938
>superman gets his ass kicked the whole movie
He loses a single fight the entire time

>>149524938
He probably was decent at combat. But he was fighting a clone of himself, and the clone was taking commands to prempt Supermans moves by a team of people who had spent years analysing his every movement.

>>149523833 (OP)
My envy is a calling it is a soul hope for humanity because it driven me to annihilating YOU 1A 1A 1A !!!

>>149525113
He's Clark Kent at the farm too

I didn't expect a 2 hour critique of a modern genocide in a Superman movie

>>149523833 (OP)
The only issue for me was not seeing the fight that made Superman land in the Arctic and the casting of Supergirl. 7 or 8/10.

>>149525096
people with a job maybe

>>149523833 (OP)
Lois needed one more scene of reconsidering her feelings for Clark. She goes from thinking she might break up with him to saying she loves him too.

>>149524236
>didn't know what kryptonite was
Its literally so well known that the general term made it into the dictionary.
Its like saying The President needed setting up because you didn't know that The President Of The United States was something in the DC universe going in.

>>149524173
>a Lex Luthor who made sense.
Yes personally I would have gone with the hair loss origin story
And I'm only half kidding

>>149524361
They did exactly that

>>149524361
How many times did you get up to go to the bathroom during the movie?

>>149523833 (OP)
ponies

>>149525311
>ts literally so well known that the general term made it into the dictionary
Okay? It's still bad writing. If this wasn't about Superman you'd be asking why a random rock is his weakness without context given.

>>149523833 (OP)
Funny how this thread came out just as I finished it.

I loved it, pure KINO. My only problem is how they didn't address Hawkgirl killing the president of Boravia. I get he was an evil asshole but you can't just have a metahuman killing the leader of a huge power without some kind of political uproar. Maybe they're saving it for the sequel?

>>149524269
>>149524361
except the movie DOES explain kryptonite is superman's weakness.

>>149523833 (OP)
A soul, a shred of sincerity.

>>149526980
>If this wasn't about Superman
But... it is about Superman.

>>149523833 (OP)
>Feels like it was missing something
Exactly

>>149525113
they gave him faggot zoomer broccoli hair too even though he's 30 years old
the oldest zoomers are 29 and wouldn't be still wearing that hairstyle at age 30.

>>149524173
>a Jor-El who wasnt a murderous psycho.
I don't get why people are so upset about this

>>149528235
It's hacky and gay like whenever they make Bruce Wayne's parents evil/corrupt.

>>149525062
anon you know lex made the clone a retard on purpose so there wouldn't be any risk of it rising against him? Its like cloning a hero 101 to make sure clone can't go against you

>they finally make a Superman movie that embraces the Silver Age craziness
>feels the most like a comic book movie out of any of them
>was great
>/co/ still complains anyway
What the fuck did you even want?

>>149524173
>a Lex Luthor who made sense
he hates Superman. he wants to kill Superman. what's nonsensical about that? i don't get it

>>149529086
A movie that doesn't suck
By the way this movie isn't "silver age" it's Gunn's usual garbage. For a superhero adaptation that actually feels like the silver age, watch The Brave and The Bold.

>>149523833 (OP)
Did he ever save Lois from fall damage? I feel that's mandatory in a Superman film but I don't remember it happening.

>>149524236
>Kryptonite being Superman's weakness just come from nowhere
are you genuinely retarded?

>>149525062
nigger, do you remember in BvS when Lex made Doomsday and the first thing it does is try to kill him? That's one reason why the clone is retarded that it can't function without Lex.

>>149524173
>Gunn says its an immigrant story
>parents tell him to rape and rule over the people
What did he mean by this

>>149523833 (OP)
If anything it had too much actually.

>>149529285
No, I think they were afraid to depict Lois as a damsel in distress. Even though that is basically the point of her character.

Masculinity. Honor. Heart. Reading or watching Superman should inspire you to be like him. I am not inspired to be like this Superman because this Superman identifies solely as James Gunn. Clark wouldn't be unable to gain an animal's respect and instruct it through experience. James Gunn can't. Clark can intimidate Lex without breaking into hysterics and wailing like a crazy person. James Gunn can't. Look at the way he writes love interests. They're all the same! They're the exact same man having a conversation with James Gunn' latest self insert. Pa Kent can inspire his son to be more. James Gunn can't because James Gunn has never written nor presented a father figure in a positive light over the course of his entire career. He doesn't know how. Look at how he chose to portray Jor-El. Easy for a childless adult to shirk writing the loving affection of a parent and child. That's more a reflection of James' mentality than he should acknowledge that he's sharing but whatever. I don't believe he understands or even appreciates fatherhood. He doesn't know God--or didn't at the time of the script writing and that's the biggest element write there. He doesn't get God or fatherhood so he doesn't get Superman, who is supposed have the warmth and strength and unrelenting durability and resolve of dependability modeling everyone's father. Or giving a model of how every person would try to be. Strong enough to be an example to others to not do the wrong thing. Clark exhibits the best thing about humanity. And when we reflect that to one another we find that world becomes a better place. And if you dig deeper you find christian values as the character, like every good protagonist and story should be designed, leads the reader to knowledge of their Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

This isn't Clark Kent. This is James Gunn as Superman. Look at the hubris. Superman is looking UP at James Gunn's name. James Gunn is so insecure that he made sure audiences know that HE comes first.

>>149523833 (OP)
no it didnt

>>149529086
What if comic books suck?

>>149530016
Shame.
They spammed supershit, but it should've been superbitch.

>>149525062
I thought it was funny that Lex used his insane intellect to memorize every single move Superman has done for the past 3 years to counter him with his clone. Like he's playing Street Fighter or some shit.

>>149523833 (OP)
It needed some salt.

>>149528235
hyper contrived writing wherein the message is perfectly cut right before he says a bunch of evil shit, and the message leading up to the cut is all nice and wholesome sounding.
idk why they didnt just write it in that Lex only had the first half of the message, but then AI'd the rest to make it sound evil. Doesn't need to be true, Lex's plan should be to defame Superman.

>>149528988
>>149529383
>can't be a loyal servant without being retarded
>can't fight Superman without calling out fight moves which is literally slower than if you used an Xbox 360 controller
hmm interdasting

>>149529254
the movie doesn't give him a very good reason to hate Superman. He's portrayed as a power hungry loser.

>>149529086
>retarded villains is just crazy writing bro
yeah it is

>>149523833 (OP)
Yeah, Superman should cuss and act like Mark Greyson, feels like that's how you modernize Superman into popularity these days.

>>149523833 (OP)
Blackhole bothered me. If it was really a black hole, Louis and the baby should be dead and possibly Mr terrific but he probably has some tech that can withstand it. That baby should also be extremely disabled due to how much he was shaking that mfer.

>>149523833 (OP)
>Feels like it was missing something
It's missing a lot more of Gunn's modern style. Gunn was clearly playing it safe to try and appeal to mass audiences and that's fine. But it's hard to not notice his typical way of doing films like Guardians, Suicide Squad and even Creature Commandos felt mostly and intentionally restrained here.