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Anonymous No.149525156 [Report] >>149527277 >>149527457 >>149527640 >>149527673 >>149527861 >>149529112 >>149536605 >>149540236
Does /co/ discuss the Transformers cartoons or comics?

Is everyone loving the new Skybound series?
Seen the new Cyberworld cartoon (for babies)?
Hoping for a new video game, maybe?
Anonymous No.149525582 [Report]
bonk bump
Anonymous No.149526550 [Report] >>149526847
tough crowd, oh well
Anonymous No.149526847 [Report] >>149526853 >>149526889 >>149527377 >>149529268
>>149526550
Is there a currently airing "new" Transformers cartoon? Haven't the comics been utter dogshit for years?
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149526853 [Report] >>149531699
>>149526847

On Youtube. Its fine so far.

Russian Grimlock oddly works.
Anonymous No.149526889 [Report] >>149527113
>>149526847
>Haven't the comics been utter dogshit for years?
Maybe the old IDW ones but the new comic series is fantastic.
Anonymous No.149527113 [Report] >>149527178 >>149527229 >>149527594 >>149529281 >>149533111
>>149526889
the fact that they made arcee a troon for no reason is still wild to me
Anonymous No.149527178 [Report] >>149527229 >>149527408 >>149531691
>>149527113
Imagine making nearly all romantic pairings in a boy-oriented franchise gay just because a few tumblr landwhales get off to it
Anonymous No.149527229 [Report]
>>149527113
>>149527178
That was IDW. They lost the license. The new Skybound comics don't have this shit.
Anonymous No.149527277 [Report]
>>149525156 (OP)
>Hoping for a new video game, maybe?
I wasn't even anticipating Reactivate but I'm still disappointed it was cancelled. I don't even want a new game, I just want them to bring back Fall of Cybertron multiplayer.
Anonymous No.149527377 [Report]
>>149526847
>Is there a currently airing "new" Transformers cartoon?
There's TWO, actually. If you count Youtube as airing.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Cyberworld_(cartoon)
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Wild_King
Anonymous No.149527408 [Report] >>149527577 >>149528776 >>149531934
>>149527178
>just because a few tumblr landwhales get off to it
Or, you know, because most of the characters are dudes.
Anonymous No.149527457 [Report] >>149530860
>>149525156 (OP)
>Hoping for a new video game, maybe?
I have a terrible feeling these days they'd make a hero shooter or an extraction shooter of the IP.
Anonymous No.149527577 [Report] >>149527781
>>149527408
is it that hard for your fujo brain to understand that most Transformers fans are male and thus feel repulse towards gay crap?
Anonymous No.149527594 [Report] >>149527781
>>149527113
Isn't almost every major franchise doing something like this these days?
Anonymous No.149527640 [Report] >>149527855 >>149528790
>>149525156 (OP)
why is cyberworld megatron a bull?
Anonymous No.149527666 [Report]
I'm playing WFC right now. I got to the last chapter of the campaign but then got stuck on the Trypticon fight and stopped playing. I want to pick it up again but I'll still be on that same damn fight and it's been so long that I'm worried I'll be rusty. I don't wanna cheese it by turning down the difficulty either lol
really cool game though
Anonymous No.149527673 [Report]
>>149525156 (OP)
My one problem with Cyberworld Optimus is that I wish his comedy were more undermining of his aura than the "Uh, that just happened."
Like, goofy stuff is happening around him instead of "Whoa, goofy stuff is happening around me!"

Toy's neat though. Needs elbows.
Anonymous No.149527781 [Report] >>149527816
>>149527577
not a fujo
>>149527594
Trans Arcee happened in 2008 and stopped in 2018.
Anonymous No.149527816 [Report] >>149527834
>>149527781
Even worse, you are a narcissistic faggot that wants your faggotry to be worshiped on every media you consume.
Anonymous No.149527834 [Report]
>>149527816
are you done writing your fanfiction where you have control over your life and are better than everyone else
Anonymous No.149527855 [Report]
>>149527640
Megatron has been unable to have a consistent alt-mode since his original toy became unable to be sold after toy gun laws were made, so just roll with it every time you see him turn into something completely different.
Anonymous No.149527861 [Report] >>149527947 >>149527962
>>149525156 (OP)
the only good Transformers is G1 and I'm tired of pretending its not
Anonymous No.149527947 [Report]
>>149527861
go to sleep grandpa
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149527962 [Report] >>149527998
>>149527861

What about Beast Wars?
Anonymous No.149527998 [Report] >>149528263
>>149527962
that anon coined the TRUKK NOT MUNKY meme back in the day himself
Anonymous No.149528263 [Report]
>>149527998
Rumble is Blue.
Anonymous No.149528776 [Report] >>149529298
>>149527408
Simple fix for this
There is series of bunkers for non combatants and its mostly fembots
Shockwave is enough of a hater to stay on cybertron and hunt inferior gender
You can say they make ammo,are medics etc
They dont fight to save fuel for elites of both sides
Anonymous No.149528790 [Report] >>149528815
>>149527640
So he can plow elita while optimus transforms into a chair
Anonymous No.149528815 [Report]
>>149528790
Get out of this thread rottingsoup you'll chop off your dick like your tranny butt-buddies long before you ever see your faggot ship come to fruition
Anonymous No.149529112 [Report]
>>149525156 (OP)
i'm in the middle of TFP for the first time
trasnformers racing game when i have an undying urge to race knock out
Anonymous No.149529268 [Report] >>149547414
>>149526847
People like Skybound but it's very much a gorefest of killing random characters, so don't expect your favorite to survive. IDW was only good for a short period in the middle.

>Is there a currently airing "new" Transformers cartoon?
Arguably Cyberworld but it's even more for babies than Earthspark was
Anonymous No.149529281 [Report] >>149529337 >>149529360 >>149529581 >>149537838
>>149527113
That was Simon Furman. Simon Furman HATED the idea of female robots and thought they should be "genderless alien robots" but had to include Arcee because of Hasbro, so he made her a science abomination that portrayed femininity as a mental disorder. It was, of course, awful.

Please try to be informed on your statements in the future because your post makes you sound like a retarded ignorant culture warrior.
Anonymous No.149529298 [Report]
>>149528776
>There is series of bunkers for non combatants and its mostly fembots
they did this and it was called Planet Caminus. Also
>bunkers for non combatants
In G1 the female autobots were all Special Forces agents and terrorists who stayed on Cybertron when the Ark left. They kept up the fight while the Ark crew was in stasis for billions of years. It's stupid to make them non-combatants.
Anonymous No.149529337 [Report]
>>149529281
What a roundabout way to come to the same conclusion.
Anonymous No.149529360 [Report] >>149529373
>>149529281
>Please try to be informed on your statements
Lol regardless of what the logistics behind the choice itself are, the writecucks that came after Furman still doubled down on it and chose to take that shit in stride, culture warriors are more than justified in calling it out because at the end of the day, the faggots that suck up to IDW's take on Arcee while barely only acknowledging the origin given to her as "bad" (mainly because it depicts transition as what it actually is and it pisses them off to no end lol) vastly outnumber the people that outright completely dislike it
Anonymous No.149529373 [Report]
>>149529360
>the writecucks that came after Furman still doubled down on it and chose to take that shit in stride,
they literally did not and undid it as soon as they could decanonize the idea of it. The girls were always girls, they just forgot they were girls because of Nova Prime erasing femininity.

God you "people" are fucking retarded AND illiterate.
Anonymous No.149529496 [Report] >>149529635 >>149529996 >>149546417
What are your thoughts on The Primes? Some of them have limited or conflicting lore. Personally I like to think
>Alchemist Prime is the patron of Cybertron art and culture, introducing these concepts to his people. This ties back to his all seeing lenses, showing themes of observing the universe in all its forms.
>Liege Maximo isn't "evil". He should be the prime of lies, designed to understand how evil thinks and is master of illusion/deception.
>Nexus Prime is a true combiner, his single spark splintered among several bodies.
>Prima slayed ancient predacons that remained after the first cataclysm, tasked by Primus to cleanse the planet of the first flawed beasts.
>While Prima was the first Prime made, Amalgamus was the first Prime gifted a T-Cog. He helped teach other cybertronians how to transform
Anonymous No.149529581 [Report] >>149529635
>>149529281
was that before the aligned continuity established Solus Prime as the ancestor of all fembots?
Anonymous No.149529635 [Report] >>149529641 >>149537579
>>149529581
IDW didn't use the concept of the Primes that way at all. It was some weird other thing.

>>149529496
I hate the concept of 13 Primes. I think the Primes should be a long lineage of leaders, some good some bad, not just a couple supergods. And I hate most of all the concept of Prime being a 13th destined chosen one rather than a guy who was chosen for his personal bravery.
Anonymous No.149529641 [Report] >>149529685
>>149529635
>not just a couple supergods
They're not gods?
Anonymous No.149529685 [Report]
>>149529641
They absolutely are intended as a pantheon of gods. The only thing about the Primes I've actually liked is One making Megatronus into someone that isn't just the robot devil.
Anonymous No.149529996 [Report] >>149532908 >>149537579
>>149529496
I'd like to know how Quintus's creation backfired so hard that it became the worst enemy of his species
Anonymous No.149530860 [Report] >>149531651
>>149527457
>I have a terrible feeling these days they'd make a hero shooter or an extraction shooter of the IP.
Anonymous No.149531651 [Report] >>149534523
>>149530860
No? I don't know. What should I be knowing?
Anonymous No.149531691 [Report] >>149536931
>>149527178
I'm not even sure why there's romance in these in the first place
Anonymous No.149531699 [Report] >>149533157
>>149526853
There's one on YouTube? Don't Transformers cartoons usually end up on Cartoon Network or The Hub?
Anonymous No.149531934 [Report] >>149534020
>>149527408
Or you just don't shoe horn romance into a series about alien robots warring on an alien planet.
Anonymous No.149532908 [Report] >>149537579
>>149529996
It's a great titanomachy saga and taps into some of the deepest western storytelling traditions there are. Without it the constant good-evil battle between Cons and Bots would have gotten boring a long time ago. A three-way faction fight makes things much more interesting.

I also makes the background setting much more interesting with new planets, space opera, aliens, spaceships, etc.

Have anyone here played the Essence20 TF tabletop RPG?
Anonymous No.149533111 [Report] >>149534367 >>149534535
>>149527113
did

did you grow up thinking optimus prime had a penis?

why would a robot have a penis anon
Boco !sCZ24qY6KY No.149533157 [Report] >>149535199
>>149531699

They’re both dead, Anon.
Anonymous No.149534020 [Report]
>>149531934
G1 cartoon did it
Anonymous No.149534367 [Report]
>>149533111
they're pretty humanized otherwise as is.
Japanese creators probably consider them to be sexual
Anonymous No.149534523 [Report] >>149534549
>>149531651
Reactivate
Anonymous No.149534535 [Report] >>149536957
>>149533111
Why would a robot turn into a truck?
Anonymous No.149534549 [Report] >>149535366
>>149534523
you know the franchise is in the gutter when the fans mourn the cancellation of a game that was going to be live service crap
Anonymous No.149535199 [Report]
>>149533157
Not exactly. Or at least not both of them. Cartoon Network is still around and premiering new shows.
Anonymous No.149535366 [Report]
>>149534549
It's been so long, anon... 10 years since a good TF game... soo thirsstyyy... anything will do...
Anonymous No.149536605 [Report]
>>149525156 (OP)
sometimes we do
Anonymous No.149536931 [Report]
>>149531691
romance is part of the human experience
Anonymous No.149536957 [Report]
>>149534535
To blend in with what he mistook for the dominate species of the planet he landed on
Anonymous No.149537579 [Report] >>149537637
>>149529635
>I think the Primes should be a long lineage of leaders, some good some bad, not just a couple supergods.
based and same
>>149529996
>>149532908
>Quintessons were created by Transformers
I hate this so god damned much. completely counterintuitive and fucked up
Anonymous No.149537637 [Report] >>149538502
>>149537579
>I hate this so god damned much. completely counterintuitive and fucked up
THANK YOU. I have always subscribed to the cartoon origins (Transformers are consumer products created by the Quintessons) and anything that tries to turn that magical just weakens the whole story. It's such a significantly more meaningful story for it to be about creations surpassing their creators than "uhhh the gods made them ok?"

And equally, identifying all the primes and making them such a small group makes the whole Transformers universe feel so small and limited.
Anonymous No.149537838 [Report] >>149537958
>>149529281
I don’t really care faggot I like transformers and I think troons are gross, glad to see you call yourself out though, have fun hanging yourself
Anonymous No.149537846 [Report]
>Cyberworld is already out
what the fuck? yeah its kinda underwhelming...
Anonymous No.149537958 [Report] >>149537965
>>149537838
absolutely obsessed. Stop forcing your fetish into unrelated conversations.
Anonymous No.149537965 [Report]
>>149537958
Not if you're a baby or toddler!
Anonymous No.149538502 [Report] >>149538747 >>149538818
>>149537637
>It's such a significantly more meaningful story for it to be about creations surpassing their creators than "uhhh the gods made them ok?"
making the quints creators/overlords is a quick and succinct way of answering the classic "if they're robots, who built them?" question without having to force anything contrived. having them originate from one of the primes completely misses the point of what made them work in the first place and makes their whole faction feel like an afterthought. I also just think it's cool and compelling to have a synthetic vs organic scenario where the usual morality is reversed.
>anything that tries to turn that magical just weakens the whole story
I don't mind a bit of pulpiness or mysticism. my ideal origin story is Primus existing as a sort of god-like energy being before the quints use him/it to create cybertron, similar to the c'tan in warhammer. that way there's elements of truth to both origin stories that either side can exploit to make themselves look more legitimate.
>And equally, identifying all the primes and making them such a small group makes the whole Transformers universe feel so small and limited
I especially felt this way about their portrayal in TFO. It also puts Alpha Trion in a weird place and makes him seem way less cool than he should be.
Anonymous No.149538747 [Report] >>149539216
>>149538502
>my ideal origin story is Primus existing as a sort of god-like energy being before the quints use him/it to create cybertron,
Yes! Mine too! The origin I always use in my head is

>Quintessons are the cold, callous science race that sells products all around the galaxy to the highest bidders
>Their greatest scientists taps into an interdimensional force that they use to create Vector Sigma
>Using Vector Sigma they begin creating their greatest work, a factory world called Cybertron. They don't fundamentally understand its inner workings though.
>Using Cybertron they create a mechanical slave race they sell. Civilian vehicles are one product line, while military vehicles are another. (I just always assume they could transform from the beginning, rather than it being something they developed later ala the cartoon.)
>Cybertronians start questioning their place in the galaxy and rise up against their creators.
>Bitter and defeated, the Quintessons retreat and try to recreate Vector Sigma.
>They succeed and tap into another force, and begin rebuilding a new, better "Cybertron," stripping their own homeworld to the bone of resources in the process and leaving them scattered
>This new world is Unicron, a creation made from their hate and bitterness

There's still a bit of mysticism in that Primus and Unicron are still some mysterious forces that are tapped into, but it also leans into the idea of them being machines.

I just really like the idea of the Cybertronians being better than the Quintessons ever were. The Quintessons are all greed and malice while the Cybertronians have infinite potential to change and grow. There's a bit in IDW that talks about how Cybertronians fought a war for millions of years in a stalemate but as soon as they were exposed to humans it was over in a flash because they could integrate ideas from other species into their own. I think it's a fun play on the idea of them "transforming" in more ways than just physical.
Anonymous No.149538788 [Report] >>149538831
>2nd episode of cyberworld just switches the first half of the episode with the second half
this is fucking grim.
Anonymous No.149538818 [Report] >>149539216
>>149538502
>I especially felt this way about their portrayal in TFO. It also puts Alpha Trion in a weird place and makes him seem way less cool than he should be.
sorry to double post but One was one of the few times I liked the Primes specifically because it felt like they were just a group of leaders, rather than being some kind of primeval gods. But yeah I much prefer Alpha Trion from the show rather than from One. I like him better as more of a scholar type than a warrior. I think him being just another fighting man instead of like, a Merlin, makes him a little boring in a series full of warriors.
Anonymous No.149538831 [Report]
>>149538788
wait nevermind they're also available as standalone in the correct order....what the fuck is the point of the stitched together episodes then
Anonymous No.149539216 [Report]
>>149538747
>>149538818
damn anon, its remarkable how much we’re on the same page here. my head continuity is almost the exact same as this except for that I like Unicorn to be “older brother” (and also the origin of the Junkions)
also the “infinite potential to transform” thing is a great take.
Anonymous No.149540236 [Report]
>>149525156 (OP)
red is my favourite colour!
Anonymous No.149541108 [Report] >>149543081 >>149545661
I like Transformers
Anonymous No.149541739 [Report] >>149543081
Same
Anonymous No.149543081 [Report]
>>149541739
Was this a response to >>149541108?
Anonymous No.149544531 [Report] >>149544542
SDCC has some baller statuettes.
Anonymous No.149544542 [Report]
>>149544531
Anonymous No.149545298 [Report] >>149545395
what are emperor megatron's tax policies?
Anonymous No.149545336 [Report] >>149545621
EP one was up a week ago or so and then I saw EP2 a few days ago but it was the same EP just out of order.
Anonymous No.149545362 [Report]
>We were given the power to change our world and you chose to destroy it. Just like Sentinel. You have betrayed Cybertron and its citizens. And you betrayed me.

Megatron and Optimus being buddies prior to the fall of Cybertron isn't something I want to become a staple of the franchise going forward, but goddamn does One nail its emotional beats.
Anonymous No.149545395 [Report]
>>149545298
humans pay rent by running on a hamster wheel to generate energy
Anonymous No.149545621 [Report]
>>149545336
show is going great!
Anonymous No.149545661 [Report]
>>149541108
I think Transformers SUCK!
Anonymous No.149545933 [Report] >>149546250
Im loving the current run, been collecting it since issue #1. Its Transformers, but they do wrestling moves to each other, its great!
Anonymous No.149546250 [Report]
>>149545933

I love the comic and that Cosmos mold. Excited as fuck to see Dan Mora take over as the main artist (though I've been loving the Daniel Warren Johnson and Jorge Corona art too). Hoping Kirkman will help the pacing feel a little less glacial too (though I think that's mostly due to just wanting more as soon as I finish the latest issue).
Anonymous No.149546302 [Report] >>149546407
Why is ever Transformers cartoon for the past two decades made for literal babies? When I was a kid they had more anime shonen esque shows for older children. Baby formers is fine but they should also do something targeting older audiences.
Anonymous No.149546407 [Report] >>149546847
>>149546302
western animation in general has become more for babies, and the age for toys has plummeted as video games have taken over. Transformers is so unpopular in Japan that they don't sell toys at major retailers anymore, only specialty retailers, and Transformers has always been for babies over there (Beast Wars and Prime had babified dubs.) Comics and the live action Bayshit movies are the only things for older consumers. They'll never make a cartoon for older people ever again.
Anonymous No.149546417 [Report]
>>149529496
I wouldn't mind one continuity that treats the Primes as either like folk heroes or something akin to fables, each with their own moral or lesson attached to them (probably started off as regular-ass Cybertronian, but rose to prominence in some way and started having stories and legends made of them).

>Micronus Prime: Big things can come from small packages.
>Megatronus Prime: Even the most noble of heroes can fall to darkness if not careful.
>Nexus Prime: The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
>Vector Prime: The past is the past.
>Solus Prime: Tools that were made for good can eventually fall into evil hands.

Optimus Prime would follow something like this.
Anonymous No.149546634 [Report] >>149546700 >>149546761 >>149546762 >>149547286
Should the Dinobots be a combiner team or not? I personally like the G1 take where Dinobots are the only one capable to fight toe-to-toe with Devastator.
Anonymous No.149546700 [Report] >>149547206
>>149546634
they should not, but I'm okay with Volcanicus being alternate universe Dinobots.
Anonymous No.149546761 [Report] >>149547206
>>149546634
The Dinobots being giant, fire-breathing robot dinosaurs should already make them special enough to not need more gimmicks on top of that.
Anonymous No.149546762 [Report] >>149547206
>>149546634

Being combiner team would feel pointless when Grimlock seems capable of soloing the vast majority of their enemies. I also like that they're only ones that go toe to toe with Devastator though. The Autobot City crew trying everything they possibly can against him and getting fucking nowhere only for the Dinobots to drop in and kick the shit out of him really highlights what powerhouses they all are in the Movie.
Anonymous No.149546847 [Report] >>149546865
>>149546407
Never understood this double-standard that the japs have with Transformers. They made so many mature reboots of classic mecha franchises, and yet they think that TF should always be kiddie shit just because the robots are autonomous instead of piloted by some teen brat.
Anonymous No.149546865 [Report] >>149546935 >>149546937
>>149546847
They think sentient robots is a silly idea for little kids, and piloted robots is more mature.
Anonymous No.149546935 [Report]
>>149546865

I don't know nearly as much about Gundam as I do TF, but I remember Wing Zero and Epyon being implied to have some kind of sentience in Wing.
Anonymous No.149546937 [Report]
>>149546865
Gundam making cheap plot devices in every series only to justify the use of child soldiers despite the fact that trained adults would make more sense makes the basic premise more childish than anything that Transformers ever pulled.
Anonymous No.149547206 [Report]
>>149546700
>>149546761
>>149546762
True, although Volcanicus is cool, I like the contrast of nonstandard combiner(Devastator made of 6 bots instead of 5) and really strong group with good teamwork.
Anonymous No.149547286 [Report]
>>149546634
I, too, prefer the G1 take.

The idea of a Dinobot combiner to me is boring. They're cool as they are, for the reason you state, and every time I've seen them try a Dinobot combiner they fail in the execution.

In Heavy Metal War, the Dinobots force the Constructicons out of the Ark, and they have their little team huddle and decide the only way they can win is to form Devastator. That's cool.

Volcanicus was a joke.
Anonymous No.149547414 [Report] >>149547466
>>149529268
I still hate the fact they killed blaster so early. We can’t have proper fight between Soundwave and Blaster, also Blaster will eternally remembered for being roasted by Soundwave.

But at least they didn’t kill Warpath
Anonymous No.149547466 [Report]
>>149547414
They could bring him back by feeding him a lot of energon, I think.