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Anonymous No.149525282 [Report] >>149525450 >>149525513 >>149525550 >>149525614 >>149525740 >>149526190 >>149526678 >>149526893 >>149527140 >>149527533 >>149527653 >>149527677 >>149528649 >>149529158 >>149532832 >>149533119 >>149534206 >>149535767 >>149537547 >>149541755 >>149542870 >>149547371 >>149548796 >>149555249 >>149565364
im going to watch beast wars because it feels comfy, am i going to become a Transformers autist?
Anonymous No.149525410 [Report] >>149526893
im going to watch beast wars because it feels comfy, am i going to become a Transformers nudist?
Anonymous No.149525450 [Report] >>149526893
>>149525282 (OP)
I watched it as a kid and never had any interest in any other transformers media past this show. The again I didn't cared for vroom vroom trucks as a child
Anonymous No.149525513 [Report] >>149526893
>>149525282 (OP)
>am i going to become a Transformers autist?
YESSSSSSSSSSS, wait no honestly beast wars is kinomation. Transformers is really hit or miss to complete garbage to eh its ok.

Season 1 is rough as fuck tho, because of how fast hardware was moving in the 90's. A 100k SGI machine from like 94, gets fucking dunk'd on once GPU's started getting pumped out in the late 90's. Then they were able to get a shitload of workstations for cheap like 1/20th the price. Creating better everything, srsly season 1 compared to 2&3 is like comparing N64 to PS3-360
Anonymous No.149525550 [Report] >>149525625 >>149525680 >>149528314 >>149528453 >>149545766
>>149525282 (OP)
Maybe. I love Beast Wars and Animated but I never became a huge… bothead? Whatever Transformers fans call themselves, I’m not it. Those series really stand on their own.
Anonymous No.149525614 [Report] >>149525850
>>149525282 (OP)
you will become a blackarachnia gooner whether you like it or not
Anonymous No.149525625 [Report] >>149527529
>>149525550
>bothead? Whatever Transformers fans call themselves, I’m not it.
Transmen
Anonymous No.149525680 [Report]
>>149525550
>Whatever Transformers fans call themselves
Robosexuals
Anonymous No.149525740 [Report] >>149526012
>>149525282 (OP)
dunno,what is clear is that you find how badly it has aged
OP No.149525850 [Report] >>149526926
>>149525614
i clicked on the first episode of Beast Machines in french and her voice unironically made my dick twitch, it was over before it even started for me
https://files.catbox.moe/za45im.mp4
her little scream in the middle of this clip really gets me going
Anonymous No.149526012 [Report] >>149532693
>>149525740
Nothing aged bad but the animation which is inevitable with CGI slop
Anonymous No.149526190 [Report] >>149526273 >>149526926 >>149532766 >>149532772 >>149537410 >>149537757 >>149543364
>>149525282 (OP)
dont forget to show us your $100+ blackarachnia figure in two weeks anon
Anonymous No.149526273 [Report] >>149526346 >>149526499
>>149526190
>$100+
>For this
Fuck that is their any real figs, this looks like some mcfarlane trash. Surely someone in Japan made at least one real figurine that is begging to be hotglued from outside the box.
Anonymous No.149526346 [Report]
>>149526273
>hotglued from outside the box
how does that work, do you just pour glue on the box or punch a small hole in the top and fill it up? the second option would only work with boxed that have a transparent front right?
Anonymous No.149526499 [Report] >>149526661 >>149526670
>>149526273
>Wanting figurines of Transformers and not transforming toys
Weebs are the second worst people in the fandom after IDW fans
Anonymous No.149526661 [Report] >>149526692 >>149526719 >>149526926 >>149526931 >>149532210 >>149532766 >>149543364
>>149526499
are there even transforming toys for her BW design? i can only find ones for her BM design
Anonymous No.149526670 [Report]
>>149526499
>not wanting a BDSM fig with silverbolt being tied up in web and an extra slutty looking blackarachnia
>wanting a shitty off model toy instead that falls apart after transforming it for the third/forth time
Anonymous No.149526678 [Report] >>149526698
>>149525282 (OP)
If you haven't already, I suggest watching the first three episodes (More than Meets the Eye Parts 1-3) and the '86 Movie of the original cartoon before starting Beast Wars.
Anonymous No.149526692 [Report]
>>149526661
isnt that her season 3 design pf beast wars
Anonymous No.149526698 [Report] >>149526734
>>149526678
why?
Anonymous No.149526719 [Report] >>149527272
>>149526661
Did you mix up BW and BM, anon?
And yes, BM BA has two official toy molds: regular and McDonald's.
Anonymous No.149526734 [Report]
>>149526698
Because Beast Wars references them. Beast Wars is a sequel to the 80's cartoon (in broad strokes)
Anonymous No.149526756 [Report] >>149526827 >>149531137
Looking back on it, you can really tell the writers also worked on Babylon 5
Anonymous No.149526827 [Report]
>>149526756
Wait, Bob Forward did?
I thought he'd only done stuff like She-Ra and DIC Legend of Zelda.
(I knew Larry DiTillio worked on Babylon 5: he and JMS has been together since He-Man).
Anonymous No.149526893 [Report] >>149528922
>>149525282 (OP)
I mean I watched it and I turned out fine
>>149525410
ooh let's hope so.
>>149525450
exactly. Same. Before this came out I'm like "I'd KINDA like to figure out what channel Transformers is on, but I'd really also rather they just be tigers and stuff instead of cars" and then I drew my own tiger transformer, using the kinda shitty transformation techniques I'd learned from the 'mutatin' TMNT figures.
>>149525513
basically each of the seasons has a weakness. season 1 is a little.. wow they really thought we wanted to watch this slow movement going on here.. season 2 has the worst designs, and season 3 was rushed.
Anonymous No.149526926 [Report]
>>149525850
Holy shit that actually sounded like Scott McNeil as French Rattrap. That guy knows his shit.
>>149526190
i hope I get rich someday so I can have the MP beast wars guys
>>149526661
but this one... I have problems with.. because this design just kinda sucked, and they didn't fix it. it needs an overhaul. also the TV model made a rare error and fucked up what was presented as her beast mode head, AND made the robot face worse
Anonymous No.149526931 [Report] >>149531741 >>149532210
>>149526661
bro the bw toys were all made before the show, they just cherry picked what characters they used mostly based on how easy theyd be to animate, every character in the show who is an actual transformer and not another alien/robot/monkey has toys
Anonymous No.149527140 [Report] >>149527602 >>149545960
>>149525282 (OP)
Dinobot is the best written character in the history of animated western television and no one will convince me otherwise
Anonymous No.149527272 [Report] >>149527669 >>149528765
>>149526719
I know they hated Beast Wars because money is apparently a bad thing but why they fuck did they have to ruin the designs so bad
Anonymous No.149527529 [Report]
>>149525625
Anonymous No.149527533 [Report] >>149527618 >>149527724
>>149525282 (OP)
depends on how you're wired OP. most pieces of transformers media have aspects to them that are ass in some way even if other elements of it are really compelling, with Beast Wars the ass part is the graphics while everything else is super kino.
if you're the kind of person that can easily suspend their disbelief and overlook the aspects of something you don't like to lazer-focus instead on the aspects that you do, then transformers goes from hot wheels to greek mythology and you become an autist.
Anonymous No.149527602 [Report]
>>149527140
he is seriously up there. Funny how this show debuted a year after Star Trek gave us the absolute best Klingon character. Dinobot is absolutely second best Klingon personality after Martok.
Anonymous No.149527618 [Report]
>>149527533
the graphics are easy to get used to once you get hooked on it. The only thing that makes the series a 9/10 when it could have been easily a 10/10 is the Vok being a nothingburger because the writers had no idea of what to do with them.
Anonymous No.149527653 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
>pic
I'll be honest, I thought it was from an obscure adult swim show I've never heard of before. It has that Xavier renegade angel look to it
>t. not a Transformers fan
Anonymous No.149527669 [Report]
>>149527272
I don't think they were quite on "hate money" by Beast Machines, that's more of a recent thing. A thing that smells like baozi if you catch my drift.

back then it was more like... well I don't think we've really identified it well enough to put a name to the trend yet, but there was this basic pattern in the late 90s of
>have incredibly, massively huge show, huge acclaim
>let's fucking ruin it because we've gotten really scared of messing up, now that we're so huge.
>We're also too stupid to realize we're causing the thing we want to avoid, like a time traveler.
>Also we have brand new really dumb ideas in our heads, that contradict the success we've had so far
happened to WB shows, happened to Disney TV animation...
Anonymous No.149527677 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
I remember the scenes were they ran and had action music, so stiff, nostalgia. I hand no idea of the plot but there was a rat.
Anonymous No.149527724 [Report] >>149528021 >>149546092
>>149527533
I mean, the graphics in beast wars at least weren't hideous (until the fucking apemen) the way Beast Machines graphics were.. they were good designs, mostly.. yeah the lack of shadows sucks, but beyond that... there's very little that looks 'wrong.' like okay Rhinox's beast mode eyes were a very wrong choice, and the Transmetal 1 designs had... issues.. but that was the toy designers' fault.. I dunno..
I think if there's a weak point to Beast Wars, it's the canadian sense of humor. Every so often they're like "haha wouldn't it be funny if we stuck a looney tunes gag into our serious show about life and death and robots with lasers?" and it NEVER works. Not even for what they're doing with it, because mashing Waspinator flat, or having him become a rock'em sock'em robot as a joke.. requires a brand new kind of graphical invention that you aren't going to be doing well since you just invented it.
Anonymous No.149528021 [Report] >>149528315
>>149527724
Rattrap's adult humor just barely dodging the censorship is peak comedy
Anonymous No.149528314 [Report]
>>149525550
Transexuals
Anonymous No.149528315 [Report]
>>149528021
oh no yeah, don't get me wrong, most of the comedy was perfect. I'm even a fan of rhinox farting, it was set up perfectly. perfect payoff to an episode-long buildup of worry about Rhinox, literally ending in cathartic relief.
it's just those occasional moments when, for some reason, they had this 'creative' idea to do something like have a guy be shredded into pieces, and it was both not funny, and not well animated.
Anonymous No.149528410 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4X4lz3ihyM
I don't get it, there's a secret hiding spot for McRibs?
Anonymous No.149528453 [Report] >>149537293
>>149525550
Yeah I also used to be a semi-regular TF fan when I was younger but I eventually grew out of it, but TFO rekindled my passion a hundredfold compared to before.
Anonymous No.149528506 [Report] >>149528572 >>149533694
Do you think the reason why the writers ruined Waspinator's good ending in BW is because his presence in prehistoric earth would fuck up the timeline?
Anonymous No.149528572 [Report] >>149528593
>>149528506
>Changing back Rhinox is bad and wrong
>Changing back Silverbolt is good and right
>No one even bothers trying to change Waspinator back despite it being able to cost Megatron a lieutenant
I think they're just dicks
Anonymous No.149528593 [Report] >>149528639 >>149553895
>>149528572
Beast Machines did not have good morals or make sense. they tried to put in a fucking 'plants good' eco message
Anonymous No.149528639 [Report] >>149528707
>>149528593
I thought the message of the show is that there must be a balance between technology and nature? Which is why Primal refuses to use the weapon of mass destruction that would destroy all technological life and the technorganic Cybertron looks so frutiger aero.
Anonymous No.149528649 [Report] >>149528677
>>149525282 (OP)
You are in your 20s so no. I was a kid so I wanted those toys.
Anonymous No.149528677 [Report] >>149528707
>>149528649
I appreciate how revolutionary the toys were at the time but I hate how so many of them were shellformers and how Dinobot's robot legs are so poorly hidden in beast mode
Anonymous No.149528707 [Report] >>149528743 >>149529953
>>149528639
sure but.. yknow. it was already a pure machine planet and... it was all very uh, what the young people today would call 'green-coded'
a plant transformer is a cute idea, but the execution was terrible.
>>149528677
The early ones were Kenner prioritizing monstrousness, then later on they got better, but then Japan took them over and said "what if lots and lots of shellformers"
Anonymous No.149528743 [Report] >>149528753
>>149528707
The only way I can imagine a plantformer working in concept is if the alt mode is a venus flytrap
Anonymous No.149528753 [Report]
>>149528743
or a triffid
Anonymous No.149528765 [Report]
>>149527272
They didn't hate BW, they learned the wrong lesson

>Drastic change is good!!
Anonymous No.149528922 [Report] >>149529139
>>149526893
They're already nude though
Anonymous No.149529139 [Report]
>>149528922
oh yeah
though in at least one microcontinuity, organic beast forms are an evolution of the Pretender technology, so they're kind of clothed.
Anonymous No.149529158 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
I watched beast wars and it turned me into a transformers autist. It’s too good
Anonymous No.149529953 [Report] >>149529969
>>149528707
>it was already a pure machine planet
it wasn't in the g1 cartoon
Anonymous No.149529969 [Report] >>149532750
>>149529953
explain
Anonymous No.149531137 [Report] >>149532144
>>149526756
... can you?
Anonymous No.149531741 [Report] >>149537178
>>149526931
look at the honkers on this thing, damn
Anonymous No.149532144 [Report]
>>149531137
Nta but yeah. Beast Wars feels like a slightly more kid friendly version of 90s syndicated sci-fi shows( which were already often kid friendly enough)
Anonymous No.149532210 [Report] >>149532766 >>149537232
>>149526661
>>149526931
For me it's the Kingdom deluxe mold from 2021
Anonymous No.149532693 [Report]
>>149526012
sad to call this slop because it wasn't just cranked out but made with a bunch of experimental techniques. Commissioned to sell toys , sure, but they were trying to do more than the bare minimum. Rendering shadows wasn't even a standard back then, but the animators would just figure out how to do it.
Anonymous No.149532750 [Report] >>149537232
>>149529969
what is there to explain? in the g1 cartoon cybertron wasn't entirely mechanical
Anonymous No.149532766 [Report] >>149532772
>>149526661
Both that figure(which is from season 3) and the one here
>>149526190
Can Transform. Spider-mode is a bit janky but the. CGI model wasn't actually transforming so the proportions don't work in reality. There's also
>>149532210
as a cheaper option with a slightly smaller size and less paint but still fairly amazing accuracy
Anonymous No.149532772 [Report] >>149537232
>>149532766
>>149526190
Anonymous No.149532780 [Report] >>149537232
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Anonymous No.149532789 [Report] >>149537232
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Anonymous No.149532832 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
Nope, Beast Wars stands alone. I love Beast Wars and have never seen anything else Transformers-related.
Anonymous No.149533119 [Report] >>149533260 >>149565301
>>149525282 (OP)
be sure to watch it in 144p as god intended
Anonymous No.149533260 [Report] >>149537232 >>149565301
>>149533119
unironically, don't watch any upload of it in widescreen. it was made in 4:3 ratio, anything else stretches it out. i don't know if they still do it now, but even the official Transformers youtube channel had it in stretched-out widescreen for the longest time.
Anonymous No.149533694 [Report] >>149533746 >>149537248
>>149528506
The people that made Beast Machines probably didn't even know what happened to him at the end of Beast Wars.
Anonymous No.149533746 [Report] >>149538092
>>149533694
there's a flashback sequence in BM showing the caveman fed up with Waspinator's bullshit and catapulting him with a palmtree
Anonymous No.149534206 [Report] >>149534338
>>149525282 (OP)
You'll be fine. I watched this as a kid and couldn't get into the other transformers stuff cause they weren't beast wars. This show was kind of it's own thing. I think a lot people that started with this as their first exposure felt the same way I did.
Anonymous No.149534338 [Report] >>149534645 >>149537248
>>149534206
People like you are probably the reason why Hasbro's current approach with the franchise is similar to capeshit, always keeping the characters and lore familiar between different series for brand recognition. Reinventing itself from scratch like they did in the beast era and the unicron trilogy has the risk of alienating a huge chunk of the fanbase(except in Japan where kid franchises always do that every year probably because of the influence from tokusatsu)
Anonymous No.149534645 [Report] >>149535747 >>149537263
>>149534338
That's fair. At the same time the setting, animals and dinosaurs were what drew me in. If they never attempted something different they probably wouldn't have got me to begin with.

I watched the war for cybertron show a few years ago cause they were bringing back some beast characters. I was massively disappointed they didn't bring any of the voice cast back for it. They were one of the best parts of the original show.
Anonymous No.149535747 [Report]
>>149534645
rattrap looks vey clankable here
Anonymous No.149535767 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
Probably not, Beast Wars is removed enough that it wouldn't spiral into grander series autism. It's still good though
Anonymous No.149536030 [Report]
The only thing I know about Beast Wars is that some asshole put a hyperlink for real mousetrap for character named Rattrap for some reason. Downright unprofessional.
Anonymous No.149537178 [Report]
>>149531741
interestingly they turn into palps on the spider mode which.. makes it look male.
Anonymous No.149537232 [Report]
>>149532210
once you get the slutty leopard print bra version and swap out the spider legs
or the Takara version that paints them
>>149532750
was too. it was literally Primus.
>>149532772
man, they TRIED.
>>149532780
This one I feel there's no excuse for the beast legs looking this bad.. or the gappy elbows, but beyond that, good.
>>149532789
there had to be more they could do with the dino feet
>>149533260
seriously?who DOES that
Anonymous No.149537248 [Report]
>>149533694
They literally deliberately hired people who had not seen it, and told them very little
>>149534338
yeah but, that's not what happened in TF. what happened is that, but G1 forever. everything has to be G1, all the time. nothing new or innovative is allowed.. anon is allowed to like beast wars exclusively, as long as that didn't happen for it.
Anonymous No.149537263 [Report]
>>149534645
or yknow, put in any work. it looked like absolute garbage and had no plot.
Anonymous No.149537293 [Report]
>>149528453
I still have to get around to that one. I regret not supporting it in theaters.
Anonymous No.149537410 [Report]
>>149526190
I never liked Blackarachnia, she ate up way too much screentime, especially in season 2.
Anonymous No.149537547 [Report] >>149537581
>>149525282 (OP)
im 2 episodes in, when does Blackarachnia show up
Anonymous No.149537581 [Report]
>>149537547
Eighth episode, not a long way to go
Anonymous No.149537757 [Report]
>>149526190
>Tarantulas implicitly made her this way so he could fuck her
Based Unicron's Spawn
Anonymous No.149537881 [Report] >>149538052
Black Arachnia is hot, and her romance was great to watch. But for me, it's Airazor.
Anonymous No.149538052 [Report] >>149538385 >>149539107 >>149550501
>>149537881
>Hey, she was there.

At least Tigatron got decent development, poor lady was wasted potential.
Anonymous No.149538092 [Report] >>149538121
>>149533746
But how the hell did that had enough power to launch him into other space into the transwarp?
Anonymous No.149538121 [Report] >>149539254
>>149538092
It didn't, after Waspinator got deposed iirc he decided to fly back to Cybertron under his own power, which he eventually did
Anonymous No.149538385 [Report] >>149538444
>>149538052
fun fact , tigatrons role was meant for wolfang, but they just used the cheetor repaint since they'd only have to minorly rework the cgi model
Anonymous No.149538444 [Report] >>149539277 >>149540725 >>149548082
>>149538385
and if they had used wolfang, i guarantee they wouldn't have used silverbolt because why have two grey wolf characters in a show, which means we would have gotten one of the other maximal fuzors, so perhaps
>torca
>bantor
>air hammer
>noctorro
Anonymous No.149539039 [Report]
This show did absolutely the best job ever of like, representing toys. You got like
>unique scenario where new characters could show up at random (you bought a toy) and they even come in a pod
>Individual character specialties and traits that only overlap a little
>variety of weapons so everyone has a role in battle, it's not just samey pew pew effects
>weapons actually IMPACT so you feel something as you watch
>lots of plot reasons to travel long distances and stuff so you want to transform them
it's hard to think of a better toy-show than this
Anonymous No.149539107 [Report] >>149546936
>>149538052
BA and Airazor's job was to be strong female characters in a show about fighting robots, without being obnoxious, girlbossy, or showing up the male characters at all. They were just kind of awesome.
Anonymous No.149539254 [Report] >>149539655
>>149538121
That made so little sense but I still laughed
like the implication is he flew the distance from earth to cybertron and it just took him a couple million years.. plus the original 400 years.. to get there just in time to meet up with his old pal Megatron.
Anonymous No.149539277 [Report] >>149539358
>>149538444
airhammer would have been fucking badass in the show
i wish someone with CG skills would give us "TV style versions of the toy-original characters" like in accurate mainframe art style. Making the kinds of changes that they made in season 1, not how they stayed accurate in the later ones.
Anonymous No.149539358 [Report] >>149539378 >>149539737
>>149539277
I think most of the BW toys that didn't make it to the show still had CG models used in the commercials?
Anonymous No.149539378 [Report] >>149539737
>>149539358
maybe a small percentage did, but that's not really the same. they were not refined at all, just copied.
Anonymous No.149539655 [Report]
>>149539254
According to Waspinator himself it "took forever"
Anonymous No.149539737 [Report] >>149539776 >>149540599
>>149539358
>>149539378
I don’t know about the commercials but I know a significant amount were given 3D models due to the Japanese packaging. It’s how we got models of characters like Lio Convoy and Galvatron
Anonymous No.149539776 [Report]
>>149539737
oh right, there's also the japanese packaging cg models.. and again those are just accurate to the toys... not that you'd need to change much for these guys anyway.
Anonymous No.149540599 [Report]
>>149539737
this looks so cool
Anonymous No.149540725 [Report] >>149540777
>>149538444
Based Torca trips
He was cool as fuck in The Gathering
Anonymous No.149540777 [Report]
>>149540725
kinda feels like that pod wouldn't have fit on the axalon
Anonymous No.149541755 [Report] >>149542324 >>149548945 >>149548977
>>149525282 (OP)
you'll meet my wife soon
Anonymous No.149542324 [Report] >>149542357 >>149548009
>>149541755
does fanart like this even think about the beast mode, or does it give zero shits? because those spider legs are pretty tiny
Anonymous No.149542357 [Report] >>149542376 >>149542413
>>149542324
I mean BW the cartoon itself cheated a lot, look at Terrorsaurs wings, conveniently repositioned to little spikes on his shoulders
Anonymous No.149542376 [Report] >>149546977
>>149542357
Compared to how his toy was, with the big Seeker-esque upside down wings
Anonymous No.149542413 [Report] >>149543054
>>149542357
he's rather unique in that regard. Backpacks shrank, sure, but it was never to this extent.
okay fair enough BA cheats a lot, I'm just saying, generally KIBBLE is in scale. Terrorsaur's wings.. are basically nowhere on him. Which is funny because he could easily have had like Starscreamy wings like the toy, but..
Anonymous No.149542870 [Report] >>149543379
>>149525282 (OP)
I find most canadian cartoons trash and yet Transformers BW and Ed, Edd'n Eddy are my favorite western cartoons
Anonymous No.149543054 [Report] >>149543379
>>149542413
I am proud of them for how they dealt with the transmetal 1 designs, awkward as they are.. there was no saving Primal or Cheetor, but they tried.. they had Primal detach his backpack to become cannons.. had Rattrap's backpack rotate 180 degrees so it was no longer a gigantic hip package.... let megatron shoot lasers out of his t-rex fingers..
Anonymous No.149543228 [Report] >>149545533
I did not care for Code of Hero. It insisted upon itself and felt unearned.
Anonymous No.149543364 [Report] >>149543411
>>149526190
>>149526661
Why does a robot need boobs?
Anonymous No.149543379 [Report]
>>149542870
That’s cause most Canadian cartoons tend to be pretty cheap, whereas Ed, Edd, and Eddy and Beast Wars were both somewhat expensive
>>149543054
It’s funny how basically every cartoon had to cheat the toy designs until Car Robots came around and even then it didn’t get super accurate until the UT
Anonymous No.149543411 [Report] >>149544744 >>149565297
>>149543364
Rattrap mentioned a nightclub in Cybertron where the waitresses don't wear the chest plates which means that the robobooba indeed triggers the neuron activation
Anonymous No.149544744 [Report]
>>149543411
or at least.. bare transistors do
Anonymous No.149545454 [Report]
man I was gonna do a beast wars YTP once, and I just ran out of steam. it was gonna be so funny.. i had like, if they said someone else's name, i'd splice that in as they were giving their henshin phrase, as if they forgot their names..
Anonymous No.149545533 [Report] >>149545731
>>149543228
Yes anon I also like to quote Family Guy lines that are specifically written to have absolutetly 0 actual meaning.
Anonymous No.149545731 [Report]
>>149545533
anon, that was a perfect Darmok, do you genuinely not understand what Anon meant?
he's using the family guy quote to suggest that Code of Hero was unequivocally amazing, and that only Peter, specifically Peter doing that bit, would say otherwise.
Anonymous No.149545766 [Report]
>>149525550
same here. I even watched the anime series. BW is still just BW in my heart, the rest doesn't matter
Anonymous No.149545960 [Report] >>149546063
>>149527140

>Rattrap: "Like I said, you're just a blasted, slag-spouting saurian, but... it's nice to know where you stand."
>Dinobot:"Upwind of you, for preference, vermin.

;__;
Anonymous No.149546063 [Report] >>149546176
>>149545960
It is hilarious to me how in BW they define each other so much by their altmodes that they literally just got
Anonymous No.149546092 [Report] >>149546176 >>149547091
>>149527724

>haha wouldn't it be funny if we stuck a looney tunes gag into our serious show about life and death and robots with lasers

This is exactly why Beast Wars works and Beast Machines doesn't. The balance between dark and serious/silly and goofy is best embodied through BW Megatron. He'll get defeated by Rhinox farting in one episode, then cut out of half of Rampage's fucking heart the next and it somehow all works. It shouldn't, but it does and I vastly prefer it to Beast Machines being unrelentingly self serious at all times.
Anonymous No.149546142 [Report]
season 2 > season 3 > season 1
this is a fact
Anonymous No.149546176 [Report] >>149546347 >>149547172 >>149548564
>>149546063
right? they REALLY get into it. They are PERSONIFYING that shit.
It makes you wonder what their names were before. like Scorponok was probably already named after the old Scorponok, but the others..
>>149546092
again, anon, and I hate that I keep having to explain this,
it's not that I don't want light-hearted things. like I said, the comedy works, when they actually do comedy
but when they decide to do dumb cartoon shit, it's not comedy. it's not funny, it doesn't even work visually. it's just *stupid* in a way nobody asked for in an action show. It's out of fucking nowhere. It'd be like if, every 8 or 9 episodes on House, you got a single bit of a laugh track. Yes, lightening the mood is important, but TONE needs to be kept.
Anonymous No.149546347 [Report] >>149546462
>>149546176
Dinobot probably named himself after the G1 Dinobots
Anonymous No.149546462 [Report] >>149546692 >>149547172
>>149546347
yeah that one makes sense. but going by the intro, I have to assume the only Maximal who kept his name from before was Optimus, and even then he MAY have changed his Prime title to Primal on this planet as a joke, if he even was a Prime.
So like, I have to assume the kid's previous name was Ro-Tor or something, the big guy was maybe Hardknocks, and .. their very unlucky captain who didn't sign up fa dis.. was probably Rattletrap?
Anonymous No.149546692 [Report] >>149546744
>>149546462

>and even then he MAY have changed his Prime title to Primal on this planet as a joke

Depthcharge knew him pre-BW and calls him Primal. Which makes no fucking sense, but neither do most of the character names prior to acquiring beast modes.
Anonymous No.149546744 [Report] >>149546851 >>149547383
>>149546692
oh yeah, you're right. so i guess he was always called that. I mean if you think about it, primal is just a word that has various meanings, like prime is. it doesn't have to carry connotations of primitivity or animalism.

speaking of their lives before, I say this a lot but it remains relevant.. it bugs me how people think protoforms are babies. That doesn't make ANY sense. Cheetor is a kid, the protoforms are adults. They're the crew. The reason they act like they were just born is that every one of them was damaged in the crash (except for some reason, Inferno's pod didn't crash, and he came out the craziest. BUT they fucked up his program real good. AND his pod probably squished him since he's so much bigger than it.

But the reason it feels like that sometimes is because 90s shows were allergic to backstory. Execs hated it, they wanted to be able to air episodes in random order (why?) and for nobody to be lost, so even in shows with a strong plot, you still have a conspicuous lack of discussing prior lives, especially with the amnesiacs who should probably be curious. who was I before? Geigertron? and was I in love with uh.. Razor, back then too? Did we sign up for this mission together? Oh god, am I already in a relationship with someone else? Did you tell her I fucked a cat?
Anonymous No.149546851 [Report] >>149546951 >>149547383
>>149546744

>it bugs me how people think protoforms are babies. That doesn't make ANY sense. Cheetor is a kid, the protoforms are adults. They're the crew

Maybe the crew are babies!
Anonymous No.149546936 [Report]
>>149539107
That stupid ass "bitch wars" episode wouldn't help and I don't think it was a real scrapped episode, about as real as the one where Optimus gets amnesia from a hit in the head and falls in love with a real female gorilla
Anonymous No.149546951 [Report] >>149547175
>>149546851
Maybe Transformers are like that one jellyfish that can return to the infant stage when it gets too old
Anonymous No.149546977 [Report]
>>149542376
Those are Toei devilman wings
Anonymous No.149547091 [Report] >>149547185 >>149547508
>>149546092
It wasn't really "millennial/wheadonesque/gunnesque/hartmanesque type of "ha haaa/gotcha humor", which is why TF One pissed me off with the constantly holding serious scenes back with dumb MCU humor, aside from a couple of moments in BW Season 3.

>Did we really needed rattrap to whiplash TigerHawks death?

But Beast Machines tried to be more like "SERIOUS ANIME" and unfortunately it was wasted potential, not because of the angts and more grimm tone, but because of all the stupid in the story, but I would say, I really enjoy the voice acting changes on Rattrap and Megs in some episodes.

Compare Early BW
https://youtu.be/O5SIZ7oDGGU?feature=shared

To the more lighthearted S3
https://youtu.be/vLHKvVi2hOA?feature=shared

To Beast Machines.
https://youtu.be/9hifxPkU-8U?feature=shared

Beast Machines was just a bad story.
Anonymous No.149547172 [Report] >>149547342
>>149546462
>>149546176
How old are you?

Maybe you just grew with the shitty Millennial / MCU style of comedy.
Anonymous No.149547175 [Report]
>>149546951
well they are in a way, because going into protoform state is something you can do anytime.. makes your body similar to the blank protoforms that also exist as backup bodies. means you can quickly take any new form without the need for a separate ship to do it, and there's some other advantage..
Anonymous No.149547185 [Report] >>149547342
>>149547091
Why is it Millennial humor though, the people writing this shit are 60 year old Jewish men from Yale and shit and all Millennials were entering adulthood by the time of the MCU lol, it's not ours generationally, or our cause
Anonymous No.149547342 [Report] >>149547420
>>149547172
I'm old enough to remember having to justify your interests by pointing out that they weren't dumb baby shit. so the inclusion of dumb baby shit like inflation or flattening in a cool robot show you're trying to justify as a real interest.. was unwelcome. and unfunny.
>>149547185
dude don't reply to anyone who uses words like 'millennial'
Anonymous No.149547371 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
the show that taught me about class differences. there were the kids who's parents bought them the optimus action figure and the kids that would be homeless if their parents even tried.
Anonymous No.149547383 [Report] >>149547393 >>149547447 >>149553768
>>149546744
>>149546851
Most protoforms ARE babies, it's just that in most depictions, Transformers are WEIRD and instantly go from "not sapient" to "hi I have a fully formed personality and level of maturity" whenever they go through whatever "birthing" process that particular continuity is using. This is even explicitly pointed out in one comic.

The Beast Wars protoforms being previously "alive" crew members is a retcon that is only used in some alternate continuities. In the show, Rampage is the only one that was reverted to protoform state for travel.
Anonymous No.149547393 [Report]
>>149547383
Anonymous No.149547420 [Report] >>149547447
>>149547342
Ok so what do you call people born between 1985-1995? Generation W?

In anycase, MCU humor isn't a Millennial thing. Lots of Millennials like it because we were probably the last generation who really had comic books being a normal kid thing and not a niche hobby, you went to any store and there was a comic rack. But MCU itself, isn't something we grew up with, Zoomers did, our youngest were late teenagers by the time of Iron Man, and Millennials don't make the MCU, everyone in Holywood is Gen X or Boomer aside from actors
Anonymous No.149547447 [Report] >>149547473
>>149547383
nope. the idea that they're babies is the retcon. and it makes no sense
they're explicitly the crew. Rampage was a regular guy, then he was put into protoform stasis just like the rest. it's a normal thing that happens to normal people. and again, it's really, really obvious.
>>149547420
90s kids, or gen Y.
Anonymous No.149547473 [Report] >>149547485
>>149547447
the show's dialogue says otherwise, bucko. I'm not responding to you any more.
Anonymous No.149547485 [Report] >>149555260
>>149547473
see that you don't. the show's dialogue never once refers to protoforms in anything even resembling the way you would a child. Again, they brought blank ones. and they turned Rampage into one. they're the crew. they have pre-existing programming, which Tarantulas fucks with.
Cheetor is called a child.
You got mixed up because of how Airazor required open spark surgery, and Rhinox muses on how important sparks are, talking about how great it is when a spark comes online. But we know protoform sparks are all online already. he was just musing because he's Rhinox.
Anonymous No.149547508 [Report] >>149547727
>>149547091

>Did we really needed rattrap to whiplash TigerHawks death?

Tigerhawk's introductory episode was right before the series finale. I love the character and his design, but let's not pretend he was around long enough for his death to have much of an emotional impact either way.
Anonymous No.149547727 [Report] >>149548392
>>149547508
yeah Hasbro fucked with them pretty hard.
Anonymous No.149548009 [Report] >>149548462
>>149542324
i dont care, i dont have a fetish for actual spiders
truteal !!r6dgSKY2bVh No.149548082 [Report] >>149548370
>>149538444

I like the idea of Cajun Terragator instead of Quickstrike (because we shouldn't have two Scorpions) and dashing Hispanic Noctorro
Anonymous No.149548370 [Report]
>>149548082
Yeah that'd be cool too. I always imagined Injector as a pirate even though it's not his bio
Anonymous No.149548392 [Report] >>149548471 >>149549032
>>149547727

A true shame. I think he encapsulates everything good about the 90s toy aesthetic.
Anonymous No.149548398 [Report] >>149548425
Man, I wish Rampage got more development, or at least more of an exploration of the tragic side of the character.
Anonymous No.149548425 [Report] >>149548475 >>149548478
>>149548398

It is really weird how more empathy (or any empathy really) he seems to have in this episode versus all his other appearances.
Anonymous No.149548462 [Report] >>149548937
>>149548009
you remind me of the people who, anytime we gripe about something being censored, say "just go watch porn"
I wonder if they're even aware of how much harder that becomes every day, or if they are behind that.
Anonymous No.149548471 [Report] >>149552911
>>149548392
agreed. when I got him (er, the original, not the one pictured), I was like 14, and my mom looked at it and she's like "yknow a lot of people think toys are just for kids, but.. I see what you see in this. this looks amazing. it's so complicated"
Anonymous No.149548475 [Report]
>>149548425
well we so rarely got to spend extended time with him, I took this as something he'd never had an opportunity to express before. Like seeing your teacher outside of school.
Anonymous No.149548478 [Report] >>149548492
>>149548425
He might have had a bit more depth to him, but it likely got lost in the shuffle of The Agenda and then the rushed S3 schedule, plus there was Depthcharge.

They could have done something with him and TM2 Dinobot, though. Two freakish transformers, created just to kill and even sharing the same spark. Could have been an interesting dynamic to explore.
Anonymous No.149548492 [Report]
>>149548478
such a shame we didn't get the episode that explains rattrap put a copy of dinobot's datatrax into dinobot II
the whole nature of how these robots work is kind of hilariously weird. Not just that they can kind of, sort of, have backups of themselves, but their soul is still unique and transferable to another body.. but also that they actually have to open up panels on themselves to push buttons (The panels typically open automatically, yet the buttons underneath can't be operated by thought?) and their onboard computer systems send them audible messages
Anonymous No.149548513 [Report] >>149548563 >>149554923
S1 is comfy.
S2 and S3 don’t have the same time to breathe or atmosphere as S1 did
Anonymous No.149548518 [Report] >>149548582
I can't hate Beast Machines. I feel like if it wasn't a direct sequel to Beast Wars, it would be one of those fondly-remembered kids shows of 1999/2000. Maybe not big, but it wouldn't have that stink of being so radically different.
>Forms don't look good, robot or beast
>Transforming doesn't look intuitive or fun
>Most characters have entirely different personalities and motivations (Optimus is a hippie ecoterrorist, Rhinox is a sociopath, Megatron is a big tech CEO who despises his beast mode and all things organic, wanting a Cybertron where only drones exist, Silverbolt is brooding and angry and asexual)
>Cheetor's growth is done well, Rattrap is mostly the same but lacking as many lighthearted wisecracks due to the tone being so overly serious all the time, and Blackarachnia's double agent bad girl former Predacon intrigue is entirely absent, she just has her feelings for Silverbolt
>Tone and visuals are always dark, the BW beast forms in episode 1 look even worse in BM, I thought they were using downgraded models
>The refusal to let the Maximals use guns feels asinine
But there's enough done well that I think it's worth remembering.

I just wish more people would give Beast Wars a chance. The visuals are dated, especially the backgrounds in season 1, but the storyboarding is usually pretty good (the camera movement for the action scenes in the Predacon Rhinox episode is pure nonsense though), and there are huge leaps in season 2. That being said, I really like a lot of the episodic season 1 episodes. I stopped on The Trigger Part 1, Tigatron is running around a Spyro level, but I remember how this show made my imagination run wild. You'll notice tricks they use, but it's a good time. I can only hope that Hasbro one day allows it to get the treatment ReBoot is getting, just contact the same people.
Anonymous No.149548563 [Report]
>>149548513
Well, they do only have half the episodes and S3 was confirmed to be rushed as hell (which shows), but S2 feels very well-paced. Lots of character development, the conflict has clearly escalated and the big reveal at the end is foreshadowed nicely multiple times.

The only outlier feels like the two-parter with the aliens coming back. They didn't really feel like they had a place in the larger narrrative at that point.
Anonymous No.149548564 [Report] >>149554936 >>149554993 >>149555002
Dinobot is straight up "What if the good guys had their own Starscream, what would a Starscream on the side of good be like?"

>>149546176
Optimus, Dinobot, Silverbolt, Megatron, Scorponok, Inferno, and Rampage all existed before. Megatron took his name from G1 Megatron... or Covenant of Primus Megatron, it's not too consistent. I thought Optimus took on the name Primal during the Beast Wars as a sort of homage, but The Probe episode has someone on Cybertron say that "Optimus Primal and his crew went missing". But all the other names are pure coincidence.
Anonymous No.149548582 [Report] >>149548631 >>149548691 >>149550865
>>149548518

I don't like Beast Machines, but I found myself not hating it the way I thought I would when I went through it a few months ago. The Tankor/Rhinox stuff is completely unforgivable, but I found myself not totally hating BM's take on Megatron. While it's an extreme shift in motivation and characterization for him, I can buy it for a few reasons. The thing that really causes him to lose the Beast Wars is Dinobot II regaining the original's memories and turning on him. With that in mind, I can see kind of see how his methods and goals might shift towards eliminating every variable not under his direct control (especially the free will of his underlings). As for his sudden hatred of organics and beast modes, well, that I can just attribute to being a raging egomaniac. I can see him coming to the flawed conclusion that the only way he could have possibly failed is if he'd been contaminated in some way by his organic components on that long shuttle ride back to Cybertron. I still vastly prefer the way he was written in BW, but it wasn't total character assassination like what they did with Rhinox.
Anonymous No.149548631 [Report] >>149548664 >>149548691 >>149550865 >>149558245
>>149548582
>The Tankor/Rhinox stuff is completely unforgivable
This bothered me as a kid and it still bothers me now.
I can understand the other changes to the characters' personalities, even if they weren't executed very well (looking at you, Silverbolt).

But Rhinox basically telling Optimus (and the audience) that no, he's not brainwashed and that he genuinely agrees with Megatron is infuriating. I'm not sure there is a member of the Maximals who that sort of 180 would even remotely work for, but Rhinox stands out. He was the most dependable member of the team and a spiritual 'bot who basically introduced the concept of sparks and even flew a shuttle through the side of the Nemesis just to stop Megatron.
Fuck.
Anonymous No.149548658 [Report] >>149556302
Transmetal 2 Cheetor (beast mode) looks totally sick, but robot mode looks like some 20-something live at home stoner with a goatee wearing the raggiest pajama onesie. TM2 Megatron robot mode has a similar problem, it's just way too much red.

Kinda disappointed that TM2 Blackarachnia was hardly utilized, I thought she looked good. Also Tigerhawk of course. He was basically Tigatron, there was no Airazor. I like to imagine what it would be like if characters like her, Rhinox, Waspinator, and Terrosaur got their toy Transmetal forms (and Inferno as Scavenger for his). Dinobot, Blackarachnia, and Scorponok never really had finalized Transmetal designs, so alas.
Anonymous No.149548664 [Report] >>149556302
>>149548631

Some of that is due to misdirection of the vocal performance:

>Skir's original intention was that Rhinox had "seen all sides of the argument, and chose to go more in Megatron's direction" in Beast Machines, and that after a quiet chat, he and Optimus would part company. As Richard Newman played that scene with growling and shouting, Rhinox instead sounded not quite in his right mind after his experiences

Still would have been bullshit, but I think it would've been just a little easier to take. And I'm with you, 'for everything that ever was' is one of all time favorite TF quotes and moments.
Anonymous No.149548691 [Report] >>149550865
>>149548582
>>149548631
The writer said that the way Rhinox was voiced during the reveal scene went against what was in his head, it was supposed to be delivered more solemnly. I didn't even know what Megatron's side was and why. I just assumed he didn't want any opposition. But Rhinox agrees with Megatron, and simply says "individuality is the source of all conflict". The writer said that Rhinox had seen every side and made his choice, no matter how poorly Megatron's side is conveyed (apparently it's meant to be seen as valid?)

Where it truly loses me is Rhinox wanting to be the one in charge and being willing to manipulate and destroy his former friends to do it. Why? This isn't development, this is rewriting.
Anonymous No.149548796 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
Beast wars is some good shit and i started watching it after Animated got me into Transformers. I miss Animated, bros..
Anonymous No.149548937 [Report]
>>149548462
quite the contrary, i want the artists to forego accuracy to the original material in order to make the character hotter in porn that appeals to me
Anonymous No.149548945 [Report] >>149548977
>>149541755
there's a typo in your post, that's my wife
Anonymous No.149548977 [Report]
>>149541755
>>149548945
Tarantulas vs Silverbolt
Anonymous No.149549032 [Report] >>149551136 >>149551230 >>149556319
>>149548392
>the 90s toy aesthetic.
Nobody ever talks about this as much as other things that contributed to the BW aesthetic like Jurassic Park, Guyver, how much orange/lime green/purple was a 90s thing, or even Barney, but these fuckers had TMNT toy grimaces, I never realized until adulthood but they do
Anonymous No.149549388 [Report] >>149549715 >>149556319
Tigatron's relationship with Airazor was very natural. It was clear through visual story telling and they never really mentioned it once afaik. And then there's Silverbolt, i don't really blame him, but... the moment he saw Blackarachnia he became downright unbearable. His whiteknight simp charade just never seemed to end and he got punished many times for it. Even put the Maximals at risk without respect for the chain of command.
And the show just kept milking this drama deep into season 3, which was already a rushed season.
Couldn't they have toned this down.
Even Blackarachnia's personality in Beast Machines is just screaming SILVERBOOOOOOOOOOOOOLTTT
Anonymous No.149549715 [Report]
>>149549388
the funny thing is realizing Silverbolt's simping absolutely helped the Maximals win the Beast Wars in the long run.
Anonymous No.149550501 [Report]
>>149538052

Yeah I always thought they should have done more with the fact she was born from a damaged protoform and was only stabilized with emergency surgery. Like Cheetor and her are siblings and Rhinox is her overprotective dad. Maybe an episode where they need a flyer but Optimus is out of commission. Airazor(in this hypothetical situation is recon-only, no combat before this point) is of of course the only one left but Rhinox freaks out and tries to forbid her from going because of her barely-stable spark.
Anonymous No.149550865 [Report]
>>149548582
>>149548631
>>149548691
What I understood is that Rhinox's spark merged with Tankor's programming beyond any chance of recovery rather than him being evil out of his free will but the series made an awful job at conveying that
Anonymous No.149551136 [Report]
>>149549032
What's interesting is that it feels like it was an American toy trend, but it's even on the Takara concept art for the toys(for those unaware,the TF design process tends to be the US side coming up with a concept and some early sketches, then the Japanese side actually finalizing the design and engineering it)
...but then I realized Takara actually handles the TMNT license in Japan for Playmates, or was for a long time, so it's possible the TMNT mouths was basically them leaning into elements of those because they were popular internationally. They knew TMNT sold and implemented bits of that
Anonymous No.149551230 [Report] >>149552586
>>149549032
they should have kept the devilman head wings in his 3D model
Anonymous No.149551811 [Report]
Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds along with the good. Let me be judged accordingly. The rest is silence.
Anonymous No.149552586 [Report] >>149554195
>>149551230
Wrong answer?
Anonymous No.149552911 [Report] >>149556376
>>149548471
>my mom looked at it and she's like "yknow a lot of people think toys are just for kids, but.. I see what you see in this. this looks amazing. it's so complicated"
Consider yourself a lucky person. My mother accepted my hobbies but always thought they were garbage - still does lol.
Anonymous No.149553768 [Report] >>149556376
>>149547383
Tigatron says he has memories but they're scrambled from the crash. That's literally every stasis pod character outside of Rampage. Silverbolt and Quickstrike have no idea of Maximals and Predacons, or even that they can transform. Tigatron doesn't remember which side he's on and waits and judges the actions of the opposing forces. Blackarachnia is well-versed in Transformer history, moreso than the other Predacons (Megatron selectively read "the good parts" of the Covenant of Primus and is familiar enough with the golden disk). But they say that the stasis pods are crew members. I dint think that means they necessarily know them individually, just that they were coming along to help. Even Rattrap seems like he doesn't know Optimus that well in the beginning.
Anonymous No.149553895 [Report] >>149554238 >>149556376
>>149528593
>they tried to put in a fucking 'plants good' eco message
Amazing that "plants good" is too woke for retards these days. Teddy Roosevelt is spinning in his grave at the sheer stupidity of the cunts in his party these days.
Anonymous No.149554195 [Report]
>>149552586
no
Anonymous No.149554238 [Report]
>>149553895
The environmental message in BM never feels like a lecture like they did in Captain Planet. The overall lesson of the show is that there must be a balance between nature and technology, not to return to the stone age.
Anonymous No.149554923 [Report]
>>149548513
damn hasbro
Anonymous No.149554936 [Report]
>>149548564
oh yeahhhh. very thorough, thank you
Anonymous No.149554993 [Report] >>149555173
>>149548564
>what would a Starscream on the side of good be like?

Marvel Grimlock?
Anonymous No.149555002 [Report] >>149555139
>>149548564
Reminder that the original aerialbot Silverbolt is still alive in the beast era as part of the maximal council
Anonymous No.149555139 [Report] >>149555178 >>149555188 >>149555441
>>149555002
Technically, I don’t think we ever find out who is in the Maximal Council within the show itself (I’m sure some comic says something else, but that canonicity is arguable). I do wonder, since the Predacons had the Tripredacus Council, does that mean their Maximal counterpart is the Magnaboss Council instead?
Anonymous No.149555173 [Report]
>>149554993
Shattered Glass Starscream.
Anonymous No.149555178 [Report] >>149555245
>>149555139
yes they are Silverbolt, Ironhide and Prowl. Don't ask me how Ironhide and Prowl were brought back to life
Anonymous No.149555188 [Report]
>>149555139
Yes. Its G1 vets Prowl, Ironhide, and Silverbolt.
Anonymous No.149555245 [Report] >>149555441
>>149555178
Since it’s said that Beast Wars takes place in its own version of G1 events, you could say they were brought back online like in the Marvel comic continuity.
Anonymous No.149555249 [Report]
>>149525282 (OP)
Yes.
Anonymous No.149555260 [Report] >>149555305 >>149556389
>>149547485
>they have pre-existing programming, which Tarantulas fucks with.

That's why Blackarachnia is FemmeFatale.exe running on DorkGirl.OS
Anonymous No.149555305 [Report] >>149555583 >>149556389
>>149555260
AU where the Maximals find Blackarachnia first so she spends the entire series being a nerdy tsundere towards “her hero” Silverbolt
Anonymous No.149555441 [Report] >>149555632 >>149556406
>>149555245
>>149555139
Beast Wars treats G1 collectively as a mythos, the show, the toys, the comics, etc. The references are broad strokes to avoid pinning down any one continuity, you're never going to hear about the time Optimus Prime got turned into an alligator in the sewers or any of the episodic adventures. In that way, it's appropriate for people watching Beast Wars for the first time who only really have cultural osmosis secondhand knowledge of Transformers. "Oh, I've heard of Unicron, Autobots, Decepticons" and so forth. And the story explains enough about the deeper references like Starscream, Ravage, and the Ark crashing 4 million years ago that you're not totally lost.

As for what is "canon" to Beast Wars that followed it? It depends on where you draw the line. Maybe you're fine with the original three seasons and just ignore Beast Machines. Maybe Mainframe's stuff collectively counts. Maybe you're watching it in Japanese so the whole additional Takara continuity matters to you, and you're counting Beast Wars II, Beast Wars NEO, Car Robots, and the various manga. Hell, they only got Beast Machines subbed years later. Do the Beast Wars comics count? None of them seem to even agree with each other. Maybe you're so far in that you consider the canceled Beast Machines successor TransTech to be the true successor and you're living on the cope that Depth Charge will come back.
Anonymous No.149555583 [Report] >>149556255
>>149555305
I had the impression that Blackarachnia was originally drawn to Silverbolt because he was the total opposite of Tarantulas who abused her mercilessly so I think that they wouldn't become a thing if she was a maximal from day 1
Anonymous No.149555632 [Report] >>149555905 >>149556406
>>149555441
I know technically that they take place thousands of years later, but I absolutely love having the Japanese BW characters show up in American BW material, like Magmatron in Beast Machines' toyline or Dirge in Theft of the Golden Disk. It makes the universe feel so much bigger outside of the main conflict on prehistoric Earth
Anonymous No.149555905 [Report] >>149556124
>>149555632
Personally I find that the writing style of characters from Beast Wars feels completely different in anything that isn't Beast Wars. Even with its occasional flaws and inconsistencies, the cast feels so distinct. They're so well-defined as characters, and that's because of how limited Mainframe was with how many characters they could have. It couldn't be like traditional animation where a new character or ten appear every episode just to give an excuse to sell toys. It never feels crowded.

It also helps that the setting is so isolated. But I imagine that if Beast Wars continued for any number of seasons, I think of the characters that would be introduced from stasis pods. Suddenly here's Ramulus whose obstinance makes Depth Charge look like a team player. I want to see him appear from episode to episode and interact with the main cast., really get time to be fleshed out, given a voice. Also modeled by Mainframe. Would his memories of Cybertron be intact or would he also be partly amnesiac? Would he stay with the other Maximals or would he stand on his own? Would he make it to the end or be destroyed?
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>>149555905
Ok, I looked up Ramulus on TFWiki to get a sense of his personality and lol
Anonymous No.149556255 [Report] >>149556389
>>149555583
Nah man, she adores that knight in shining armor shtick from her core. Their foreplay is him reciting a 40 minute sonnet he wrote about her eyes while she pretends she doesn't love that shit.
Anonymous No.149556302 [Report] >>149559297
>>149548658
you don't like a hulking, werewolfy robot mode? In fairness it is just the beast mode standing up..
>too much red
you know, I was about to call you a retard, but you're kinda right, particularly since his face is sticking out without red, and that color appears nowhere else. he really did need more breaking up his red.
>TM2 BA looked good
the face didn't bother you? she was an interesting design, but has classic fembot kibble backpack syndrome, which the show chose to just ignore and then make an already weird face even worse. oh and it also changed how her beast mode face worked, which.. no.
>>149548664
naw I like that.. Newman was like fuck that, Rhinox would never, he must be brainwashed again.
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>>149549032
my favorite transformers anything is the old concept illustrations. the japanesey ones. so guyvery.
>>149549388
Given how cracked Quickstrike was, I'm amazed people are so hard on Silverbolt. his brains were scrambled. He's doing his best.
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>>149552911
I mean she is a woman, so her opinions fluctuate like the weather, but it was nice getting something I see as a work of art acknowledged.
>>149553768
Well yeah, Rattrap was just their pilot. he's not a member of the Maximal army, rather, his little junker ship has been commissioned to take them on their secret Rampage-dumping trip. That's why 96% of the crew is in stasis pods, both to hide that Rampage is one of them, and to make their active crew small enough to conscript a very small ship, that wouldn't be noticed.
So basically he had a job to do, he was looking forward to finishing it, leaving, then maybe coming back to pick them up later when he's summoned. He never signed up for the military and doesn't appreciate being jumped in.
>>149553895
dude they change their tunes every three weeks. now it's "yes please, cut down trees. they're renewable and they lock in carbon. now it's the plastic we hate. you know, that stuff we told you to use instead of paper?"
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>>149555260
Kek. That's 100% true.
>>149555305
oooh or that could be Shattered Glass or something.
>>149556255
and she has so many eyes, too..
Anonymous No.149556406 [Report] >>149557255
>>149555441
Yeah, that actually worked kind of great. It was like how so many of us watched DBZ before seeing, or at least before finishing Dragon Ball (a lot of us saw Pilaf saga and that was it)
>>149555632
suuuuper agree.
Anonymous No.149557255 [Report] >>149557729
>>149556406
I do think it’s a bit dark to tie the Japanese BW series to the American one because it probably means a lot of them got turned into Vehicon Drones
Anonymous No.149557729 [Report] >>149557906
>>149557255
Oh BM needs a retcon
I think we can keep some of the broad strokes of it, but overall it realllly needs to be redone from the ground up.. and that would be turbo great.
Could even make an oblique reference to the pods they left behind on prehistoric earth, and a nod to the comics where all the toy-original characters showed up back then.
Meanwhile just do arriving on cybertron, Megatron having an ace up his sleeve, you can still have Nightscream and shit.. but let's leave out that 'technorganic' fucking shapeshifting nonsense. Cybertron is not partly organic. It's Primus. You can still have Primal sacrifice himself at the end, and then move into TransTech where Optimus Prime joins them and they all become vehicle-animal hybrids..
Anonymous No.149557906 [Report] >>149558184
>>149557729
I think the organic Cybertron can still work. In the marvel lore Primus and Unicron merged with asteroids, so instead of a barren asteroid, Primus could have merged with a planet blooming with organic life.
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>>149557906
Okay, that part I'm down with.. if cybertron somehow gained a beast mode, but the beast in question is 'organic planet' like it has plates or just one hemisphere that has that stuff, so they can actually develop an atmosphere and raise animals there to scan.. and invite humans over and we find out what became of us.
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>>149548631
They should have either had him sacrifice himself to save Optimus, or acted as his spiritual guide the entire first episode of season 2.
Anonymous No.149559297 [Report] >>149559507
>>149556302
TM2 Cheetor's fur in robot mode looks like patchy 70s shag carpeting that hasn't been washed in just as long
Anonymous No.149559507 [Report] >>149559648
>>149559297
I guess.. it looks kinda normal to me..
Anonymous No.149559648 [Report] >>149560114
>>149559507
His original and Transmetal designs just look so good in comparison.
Anonymous No.149560114 [Report] >>149560510
>>149559648
really
you like the transmetal 1 design
with the fucking leopard print at random, the goofy fucking cat head that turns into two even goofier crab claw hands with little leopard print hands inside them. the legs that just bend the shin partway and pretend that's a digitigrade heel. the cat arms that just fold over the back instead of becoming guns or something
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>>149560114
Yeah, because
>It looks like it could be the same character in an upgraded body (in comparison to TM2 Cheetor who I feel could have been a design for a completely different cat character)
>It looks like an actual transformable toy. I owned both TM Cheetor and TM2 Cheetor and TM Cheetor was more aesthetically pleasing and interesting to transform, the parts just fit. The only drawback was that his head in beast mode kind of drooped from its own weight. TM2 Cheetor had annoying limbs and even though you do flip the orientation of his body for robot mode, it doesn't feel like it makes much of a visual difference
I like the side jets of TM2 Cheetor more than the gun-jet thing. It was cool in Feral Scream Part 2 when it's boosting his speed, but it hardly gets utilized compared to the flight mode he had.
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>>149560536
wrong thread dude
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>>149561273
wdym, those are pictures of transformers... in a transformers thread. Really cool TFs, I might add.
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>>149562160
It's more of a /toy/ topic in this case
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>>149563314
indeed
where these exact images are presently being posted
Anonymous No.149564212 [Report] >>149565128
knock out's ass.........
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>>149564212
For exclusive Breakdown and Insecticon use
Anonymous No.149565135 [Report]
I'm alright with the fact that Scorponok died. Hell, I'm even fine with how unceremoniously he died, most Predacons should go out in a stupid manner like Inferno and Quickstrike. I think it's just kind of shocking that he and Terrorsaur are killed off at once in a slightly horrific way, memorialized in the opening of all things. And right as they're becoming Transmetals too, what a blue ball moment.

Terrorsaur, on the other hand, I'm not sure. He had a much stronger character, and an actual Transmetal design and toy to work with. With Beast Wars gradually moving into a more serialized narrative towards the end of season 1, maybe a pseudo-Starscream (who hadn't even done it that much) didn't work as well. He would work better in a more lighthearted episodic series, much like the original show. I think it would be harder to do his thing with characters like Rampage and Dinobot II around. If anything, he and Waspinator were just "the fliers" and were pretty equally competent at it early on, so with Waspinator being the more better fit for a joke character and fliers having to be relatively equal on both sides, Terrorsaur just became redundant I guess. Even the Starscream bit was being used everywhere else (Dinobot, Rampage, Dinobot II, actual Starscream possessing Waspinator).
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>>149543411
which episode?
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>>149533119
>>149533260
im watching it in 360p 4:3 on my PS Vita
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>>149525282 (OP)
>am i going to become a Transformers autist?
If you reached Beast Wars you're already long past the point of no return.