Here is your new loli avatar bro...
That is now 100% confirmed again to be real
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1948447022584922295

Looks perfect for bullying

>ATLA is inspired by Xianxia and kung fu movies
>Korra is inspired by Hong Kong and kung fu movies
>this is inspired by... ?????????

>>149536767 (OP)
Avatar > Avatar

>>149536767 (OP)
Not interested

>>149536800
> this is inspired by
Indian

>>149536804
Nope

>>149536804
Ashy Larry making it big.

>>149536767 (OP)
I really hate that generic style they push over and over again. Cry about beanmouth as much as you want, I cant stand the style of shit like She-Rah, Invincible and the likes. Avatar looked anime enough which was the point, but this once again looks completely western with anime faces.

>>149536767 (OP)
I will say that the premise is so different than the rest of Avatar that its better to go this direction than do Korra again. The premise will definitely ruffle feathers since it makes Korra look really bad (or worse than she already gets) and murders pretty much the entire family line of the previous generation to begin from scratch.

>>149536767 (OP) >>149536910
From what ive heard, this takes place in a more messed up version of the world, after Kora fucked everything up, now the avatar role got tarnished beacouse of Kora and now the new Avatar has to deal with it.

>>149536909
Anon avatar has been going for that anime style since it aired

>>149536922
And that is unique enough of a premise that it could work better than what they’ve done recently. They milked the original series to oblivion and Korra was a mess. This is a good way to start from scratch and get rid of many of the things that hindered the franchise post season 3 of the OG series.
The protagonist being such a little kid is also encouraging because it mean no more teen romance. Those always sucked.

>>149536909
>>149536910
>>149536812
Be thankful that this show will have seasons with 26-22min episodes, shit that is SO RARE nowadays with animated shows, looking at how they do not more than 10 at minimum.

>>149536839
Yep

>>149536767 (OP)
If this releases on Paramount+ firsts, it's DOA

>>149537014
Money=/=quality

>>149536978
I will be thankful if it's actually good.

>>149536767 (OP)
>The last brown girl Avatar show flopped... Let's do it again.

>>149536978
>Thankful
Anon, the 26 episodes are split in two seasons

That is very cute pose.

It'd be funny if she's a kid for like, an episode or two and then she's timeskipped to a few years later.

>26 episodes only
Thank god, i can't handle another 40-60 episode Avatar. I might watch it after all

>>149536767 (OP)
SEXO!!

>>149537235
And funny

>>149536767 (OP)
Hot

>>149536767 (OP)
>loli
Only white and asian girls can be called loli

>>149536804
Both are shit. Cameron's Avatar is the story of a shitty human traitor who likes to pretend with alien "black face" if you will that he's a good person. Realistically speaking humans would have tortured him to death for treason and either nuked the aliens or invent a disease that only kills the aliens.

Nickelodeon's Avatar is shitty feminism weak males who whine like wusses who get bailed out due to bad writing. And the female Avatars are dumb bitches who fail upwards. God awful and I hate everyone who ignores the flaws and pretends Nickelodeon's Avatar is any good. The only good thing about Nickelodeon's Avatar is that every reboot and sequel of it has been a failure. I just wish people would stop defending the first series which is unbearable shit. Don't do a World War story if you're not going to commit to the dangers of war like mass on screen death.

>>149536767 (OP)
Do they fuck?

>do brown girl Avatar
>obvious next choice is a non-brown male
>do TWO brown girls
>it's ANOTHER quirky brown girl adventure cartoon for millenial women but now with an Avatar flavour

It's astounding how a show can just announce that it's going to be complete garbage at the same time it exists.
Every fucking awful trend in the industry and it's all here in one package.

>>149536767 (OP)
Why doesn't she have a cool metal leg?

>>149536767 (OP)
>New avatar is a young girl named Pavi with an animal guide pet named Geet. She lives in homeless poverty in one of the havens, she has a twin sister who was mistaken for the Avatar and is separately living the life because of her having similar abilities to the Avatar despite not actually being the one.
Kino

>>149537453
If leaks are to be believed it’s because she’s broke as fuck

So did Korra fucked everything up and ended the world

>>149537425
Of course not he's male character created by Americans he's naturally homosexual and remember the politically correct times you are living in a male character does not need to suck a penis to be a homosexual. Get with the times you idiot since you probably voted for this to happen. So you have no right to ever complain about lame male characters.

>>149537452
I think the worst part is that the main public won't care. After the disaster that was Korra, people will just be thankful to get something slighty better.

>>149537519
I'm not an amerishart

>>149536767 (OP)
doa

>>149537452
Look dude having a female protagonist alone is how you know its going to a shit factory.

But lets be realistic because none of you want to be realistic, even if the next Avatar was a straight white male he would be a LOSER!!!! Having a male protagonist is no guarantee, he will be shit al the same like vegan hippie loser Aang who whined to the Magical Lion Turtle to randomly show up conveniently on the final episode of his story to bail him out. Male characters aren't a guarantee of good writing not in today's culture.

You are getting shit regardless because you live in a shit culture. Get that through your skulls.

>>149537513
The spirits did, and she saved it. It might be because of her leaving the spirit portals open, but I doubt it, Bryke like her too much

>>149537425
>Straight relationships
>In Western Animation
LMAO, if you want heterosexuality, just watch Anime

>>149537014
If you aim for the king, you better not miss...

>>149537384
I'm glad Cameron's Avatar makes you seethe so.

>>149537136
It didn't fail because Korra was a brown girl
If anything, her being brown (and buff too) is like the only thing coming from Korra that appeals to most people these days

>>149537615
Why are you ignoring all the yuri anime that has come out and is coming out? There is "No Way Will I Be Your Lover... Unless..." or w/e it's called.

>>149537235
Where's the full pic & that thread where Magi posts all his drawings?

>>149537633
Cameron's Avatar is a good example of why humanity deserves to be spammed with woke Leftism shit until you all die. You deserve garbage media until you go extinct. Humans are idiots who buy into shit so you deserve more shit. And when you have the nerve to complain you should be killed for the crime of being stupid. Stupid people deserve to be killed MORE than a serial killer.

>>149536767 (OP)
I for one welcome our new Loli Avatar overlords

>>149537615
why are jeets always obsessed with kissing

>>149537664
Out of 60 Anime per season, Yaoi/Yuri get around 5 at most. And some of them do not even reach the gay part, sothey hardly count

>>149537680
Baraag

>>149536767 (OP)
>You know what's hip with all the new Avatars is one-legged chicks.
>>Oh, what's 'er name? "Peg"?
>That'll be enough of that.
>>>What 'bout "Eileen"?
>>Ha! Ringo got it!

Earthbender lolis...

>>149537708
Well you gotta also discard pathetic cuck protags then, even if they're het. Shit like Jobless Reincarnation counts as that, pathetic whiny protag. Even in your image I Became Overlord of A Galatic Empire or w/e the protag is able to have any woman he wants - hell, one episode is built around him building a harem and his aides are shocked he didn't want a minimum of 1,000 - and he goes "Oh I don't want women who want to be with me, I want women who I have to work for'. Which is the total opposite of what your image is trying to imply (we're so good and straight heteropill!) by making the guy discard every single woman (three throw themselves at him) and have him love the fucking robot instead.

>>149537589

There was always a chance Avatar could be cool or interesting, always a chance somebody who likes the original series obtained a position of influence and got involved in the next Avatar.

That obviously has not happened and it's just kinda sad. It's a cool world that's been ruined by so much meddling by retards.

>>149537711
Link it, please.

>>149536767 (OP)
She's cute at least

>>149537761
Look buddy, i didn't make the compilation. The pic simply shows all the romance-focused and non-focused Anime with romantic relationships or feelings. If they ignored your favorite homosexual Anime then go complain to them
>Jobless Reincarnation
You mean Mushoku Tensei with the MC having like 10 children? lmao

>>149537785
On that I do agree the raw concept of Avatar was neat but when you keep writing the female characters as obnoxious macho bitches who are more competent than the men or like Korra fail upwards? You're making audiences angry even if it takes years for people to realize this kind of writing is awful like how it happened to Legend of Korra. Took a while for idiots to stop defending that trash.

As for the male characters they will eternally be hopeless because the culture is too feminized. The idea of a man being more intelligent than a woman is offensive and if they are written as being intelligent it comes with a condition like Sokka who has to be emasculated like cross dressing and regularly humiliated as a butt monkey. Whose going to watch and get invested into that? I can't stand western writing. Not anymore.

>>149536800
This is inspired by that Disney movie about the last dragon.

uhh...what the fuck? Why? Aren't avatars and element benders supposed to be martial artists?

>>149536767 (OP)
This artstyle AND the premise is fucking retarded. I can't wait for this shit to crash and burn. Avatar legitimately has not been good since before my balls dropped.

>>149537589
>white male
>avatar

>>149537911
This would be a great opportunity to take inspiration from disabled kung fu/martial arts masters from movies but it's probably gonna be more Mad Max meets generic tumblr fantasy world instead.

>>149536767 (OP)
I genuinely don't care about Avatar one way or another. I am just looking forward to the lewds since she is cute.

>>149537911
After DnD let people RP as fucking wheelchair adventurers - this shouldn't come as a shock.

>>149537839
>You mean Mushoku Tensei with the MC having like 10 children
Yes. My whole point was discarding cuck whiny protags, even if het.

>>149537954
>I genuinely don't care about Avatar one way or another, I am just a pedophile

>>149537986
>Oh, won't somebody PLEEEAAASE think of the cartoon children!?

>>149536767 (OP)
>zero hype for this slop
I think people have brown girl isekai fatigue.

>>149537986
Pedophile franchise

>>149536767 (OP)
>yet another series about a brown bisexual girl
>but this one's also a cripple, so that makes it extra especial for the audience!

>>149537384
> alien "black face"
Blue face

>>149538074
>extra especial for the audience
Based Family Guy reference.

>>149537961
Especially since even the original Avatar cartoon had a character that flew around fighting people from a wheelchair.

>>149537084
Yes.
Look a ne zha 2

It’s movie of the year

>>149538074
Avatar made Toph blind 20 years ago, what exactly are you complaining about

>>149538049
I jerk off to animated women with big breasts because I'm attracted to real women with big breasts

You jerk off to animated little girls because you're attracted to...

>>149537384
Keep seething troon

>>149538108
Kys fag

>>149537350
Nope

>>149536767 (OP)
I will root for her. Korra set this girl up holy fuck. Did Korra nuke the world or something?

>Republic City was based on early 1920s
>Korra probably would have lived another 50 years or so
>we could have had magical kungfu adventures in a 70s/80s time period instead of post apocalyptic slop
WE WERE ROBBED.

>>149536767 (OP)
Will 26 episodes be enough to tell the whole story? I don't think this show will be renewed. Shows starring little girls don't tend to do well these days, unless they're pre-school programs like Bluey.

>>149538185
Pretty sure the spirits did, because basically every avatar told them to fuck off and the world had gotten completely industrialized

>>149536767 (OP)
How many cripple fetishists will this awaken?

>>149538145
does your mother know you're attracted to children?

>>149538185
We don’t know for sure yet, but I imagine it had something to do with leaving the portals to the evil inhuman spirit world open, so fuckers like Koh and such could walk the world again.

>>149538207
korra never should have been based on 1920s anything. that was their first mistake.

>>149538093
>>149538106
This
Avatar's been doing this from the start, letting people with disabilities turing their weaknesses into strengths

>>149538108
>You jerk off to animated little girls
How dare you, sir! That's slander!
>*goes back to jerking off to shota*

>>149537986
Yeah, pretty much.

>>149538207
>Team Korra slugging it out in the jungles of Foggy Bottom trying to put down the swampbender militants.
>"Let's do the whole village, Asami."

>>149536767 (OP)
Doesn't look like avatar at all.

>>149536767 (OP)
>Be Avatar
>The only past self you can communicate with is Korra

>>149537425
Dude, she's like 9 years old.

>>149538494
So you're saying 'maybe'?

>>149538443
It could always be worse. If her sister is the dark avatar she only has Unalaq

>>149536953
>Let's nuke and change the established setting to the point it might as well be a new IP
>Good idea
Has this ever worked?

>>149536767 (OP)
Still seems like a weird AI made combination of everything Tumblr fanart
>Ambiguous brown girl adventure
>Handicapped in some way
>Half assed knockoff of Disney
It's just missing the vitiligo and I assume she will be later revealed to be gay like all the others made in the last decade.

>>149538443
Is she really stuck with Korra? No Aang, no Roku, no nothing?

>>149536767 (OP)
I didn't like Korra's setting at all, so I didn't bother watching it. I hear this is post-apocalyptic or something, so I hope the world reverted to something more like Aang's time, but the art here is weird and doesn't seem to depict an Oriental setting.

>>149537649
Ever popular in rule 34. This is Korra's legacy!

>>149537986
>>149538049
>>149538145

>>149536953
you idiots never learn.... the only things bryke are good for are good premises, but this will quickly go to shit because bryke are terrible writers

>>149536767 (OP)
Can't be worse than Korra

>>149537911
She should have lost an arm instead of a leg, it would have been 100x more practical. Imagine if she used her bending powers to have an arm made of fire/earth/water/air, changing its shape and turning it into tools and weapons. Instead she has a wooden leg that brings nothing to the show other than diversity points.

>>149538543
> dark avatar
That reminds me, isn’t a future Avatar pretty much doomed once Vaatu fully reforms inside Raava, like is it gonna emerge out of the avatar Chestburster style?

>>149538741
Pavi’s twin sister has a black pet corresponding with the white one and they both supposedly have avatar powers, I think the implication is that Vaatu came out in the womb

>>149537963
>my whole is a retarded fanfic that isn't true
Mind you picked the series where the MC gets a bad rep from 'grooming' his childhood friend, cheating on her later with mage babysitter, then later marries both AND marries his redhead adventure buddy.

>>149538624
I hope Korra explains why the world turned into a shithole.

>>149538778
>twin sisters
>both powerful
>one is good, other is dark
Wait a second, this sounds familiar…

>>149536767 (OP)
Did they really destroy all 4 countries. If so, I hope Korra suffered enormously.

>>149536800
Fallout New Vegas

>>149536767 (OP)
That's just a cat with hands for feet.

>>149538911
Yes, it's clearly a hybrid animal like the rest of the 99.9999% of the animals in this series.

>>149539012
Yeah, and it's lazy about it.

>>149537680
>>149537711
>>149537817

baraag.net/@ac120/113607726281956413

I made 20 drawings on the subject but I have only 8 of them up because they were unfinished or not pornographic.

>>149538839
I was thinking a different inspiration
>generational "chosen one" born as siblings this time
>one sibling gets the power
>the other get the visions that guide that power
>one is good, other is dark

>>149539061
Fantastic!

>>149536800
boring generic indie shit

>>149538271
Cope

>>149537911
Martial artists with disabilities is like one of the oldest tropes around, tourist

>>149538271
My mother died centuries ago

>>149537485
>She lives in homeless poverty
>Well fed
>Wearing incredibly fashionable robes
>Jewelry brooch
>Decently kept hair with what appears to be a tiara
if anything she could pass for a damn princess

>>149539055
So just the same as before. Or are you going to pretend a lemur with bat wings was any less lazy?

>>149539108
sure, but at least make it a cool disability. Not a fucking peg leg

>>149539192
This

>>149539192
>>149539203
There is nothing wrong with the pirate classic.

>>149539192
Yeah a metal leg she can bend at will in combat would make a lot more sense.

>>149539274
yes there is

>>149538443
What a terrible fate.

>>149539275
For all we know, we could be getting that later on and she just has the wood one now because, you know, poor

>>149539357
Eh maybe. But if she can metal bend, it's the kind of thing that she doesn't need money for. Just the metal to build it.

I don't care how many brown lolis they send, nothing will ever top Korra r34

what I hate the most about it is that my sorry ass will still watch this slop, at least there would be hot waterbender qts tho

Korra fucked the entire planet in book 2, Amon was right

>>149536767 (OP)
disabled and diverse characters were handled well in the original, but ever since then it's like they've been doubling down more and more. those elements can work but it just feels like they're doing it for cheap pandering points.

maybe the original series shoul've been a one off.
korra r34 still kino tho

>child
>girl
>brown
>disabled

>>149537235
gonna need full version of this pic.

>>149537911
yeah really and for a earth bender starter this would be a devastating loss. They are the most foot/base focused benders. Toph's whole training revealed this why earth was so hard for aang it's all about footwork and being grounded and solid.

>complaining about disabled characters in Avatar
>the underage infesting /co/ don't even know who Toph is

>>149536767 (OP)
This show is gonna get a ton of feet art, isn't it?

>>149536767 (OP)
I think out of every bender, Earthbenders use their legs the most for strong bending abilities.
I think it's an interesting concept to see how her bending is gonna work out, I'm excited.

>>149536910
I think it would be a breath of fresh air to have a failed chosen one with lasting consequences. I already considered her one for letting Republic City turn into Spirited Away.

>>149540114
Toph's blindness didn't hinder her physical skills. A brown girl missing a leg is like describing a tumblr OC or a modern DnD OC. Just performative special disability traits for the sake of it rather than something that's overcome through bending.

>>149536922
>the avatar role got tarnished beacouse of Kora and now the new Avatar has to deal with it.
Also excited about this.
Everyone shitting on Korra unanimously.

Hope Korra had a child with Mako, and that airbenders are now allowed to eat meat and let their hair grow

>>149538161
Remember when Katara's VA played that Indian girl in Jungle Book 2 who got hypno'd and almost vored?

>>149540114
Toph had radar vision, was the 2nd best earthbender in the world after Bumi, and after all of that he learned Metalbending.

>>149537235
>reverse image search shows nothing
post sauce faggot

>>149540114
comparing them is disingenuous and/or retarded

>>149540445
Agreed, because we have nothing to compare to yet aside from concept art, the basic premise, and now this single teaser image
Comparing is disingenuous because one has two full seasons worth of content (along with the episodes she appears in during Korra) and one has literally nothing yet, so there's nothing to compare yet

>>149536767 (OP)
Every single Avatar thing outside of the original series has been hot garbage, why can't they let this series die?

>>149540534
The Kyoshi and Yangchen books were pretty good. There's that
Jury's still out on the Roku book as I've still not finished and have no real desire too

>>149540600
Books retconning in lesbians are trash.

>>149536767 (OP)
you just know

>>149540416
https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts/1272838

myass is only going to watch this for the hot bender girls and gilf Korra.

>>149540744
Korra is dead

>>149537986
Yes.

>>149537961
I never understood why people got upset over people playing as wheelchair characters. Isn't DnD about creating your own campaign? So how does it affect anyone else?

>>149540703
>requires account
nah

at least the tags were visible so I managed to find it on the artists baraag, so thanks.

>>149540938
Because it's official mechanics & makes no sense. Just like gay dwarves doing baking or mexican orcs being official.

>>149540938
>Isn't DnD about creating your own campaign? So how does it affect anyone else?

It's a medieval fantasy setting so having a wheelchair would be not only an extremely severe handicap but also an extremely expensive item to have, so it would presuppose that your character is either so rich or so skilled that there's no point in going on a campaign.

>>149536767 (OP)
My dismay is that it is right after The Legend of Korra, where its development and closure were in the least 'sublime' way unlike the original series; Not to mention that essential aspects of the root series, if not important, were somewhat altered that contradicted or became incompatible with what made the main series credible and credible.

Perhaps I am somewhat prejudiced; However, since this possibly continues with this predecents, it isn't something minor and it does not encourage with total joy... It may not be bad, but it is uncertain whether it's complements with the 'main root'.

>>149540938
There are multiple spells and items that would either cure being a cripple or allow you to ignore it a cooler way than a generic wheelchair. Flying carpets, floating balls you sit in, a spell that just gives the ability to fly, shapeshifting, magical robot suit/limbs/etc, riding an animal, healing spells that bring the dead back and regrow limbs, necromancer using some skeleton abomination as a living chair, etc. Hell, the warlock class could be used by making a pact so you're not crippled and it could be a story hook your patron takes that back. The big stink people made was actually about a super overpowered magical wheelchair that was so good not using one was handicapping, heh, yourself because it was also dirt cheap to get.

>>149540703
>unironically linking that pedo shit

>>149536767 (OP)
Show looks bad but I wanna sniff her sweaty stump after a long day of training

>>149540534
because the original series was good

>>149540801
the has to be flashbacks of her tho you know like Roku and Aang

>>149540534
>>149540600
For me it’s the Shamalan tie-in prequel comic about Zuko

>>149541123
>not using one was handicapping, heh, yourself
we got jerry senfield over here my niggas kekekekek

>>149541226
>a new era of milf and gilf Korra porn
oh my. oh my goodness.

>>149536767 (OP)
Can we get a male MC in an action cartoon again? When the fuck was the last one?

>>149541140
Kys fagtard

>>149540198
Something like this?

>>149540703
For some reason the ATF Booru won't let me look at stuff anymore even when I sign in.
>>149541140
Nigga, are you lost?

>>149540198
>Toph's blindness didn't hinder her physical skills
>Just performative special disability traits
lol

>>149541019
So? You don't have to have a wheelchair user in your party or campaign.

>>149541025
It's fantasy, yeah. So people can fantasise about wheelchairs. It doesn't affect you.

>>149536767 (OP)
wtf is this shit it looks like its on mars

>>149541547
>>149541712
>>149541794
Yes or the Red Lotus lady with water arms. If you have to have a disabled character in your fantasy setting then it has to make sense for it. Avatar has all these means to overcome it. DnD has literal magic & literal mechanical constructs that make them irrelevant. When DnD does this kind of thing in their modern editions, it's performative because it's not about doing anything interesting with it. It's just about it being there. It'd be like if Daredevil or Toph were just completely blind with no special skills or abilities compensating.

>>149541878
Maybe some people enjoy playing a character in a regular wheelchair and using their creativity to overcome the obstacles thrown at them by their dungeonmaster.
It's an additional level of challenge. And again, it literally doesn't impact you in the slightest, so why are you crying?

>>149536781
sexually

>>149541878
Is it not at all about min-maxing?
I remember in the Vampire the Masquerade book I had, you could take bonus points if you gave yourself handicaps.

>>149541910
Fuck off if you don't get the issue. You're part of the problem.

>>149541948
It would be but the kinds of people who want that sort of thing do it to feel special. If you give them actual handicaps over it they'll complain.

>>149536767 (OP)
>Auroras
What the fuck Korra did to screw the magnetic poles?

>>149542074
dunno, maybe open the portals?

>>149542013
There literally isn't an issue. All your complaints are "Reeeee I don't like this completely optional thing!"
You're a fucking snowflake.

>>149542074
>What the fuck Korra did to screw the magnetic poles?

She unleashed some worldwide cataclysm that set the world back to just 7 fortress cities, with the rest of the world being a mad max wasteland.

not even joking, according to the leaks that's the plot.
the lolivatar also has an identical twin who was kidnapped by the White Lotus by mistake to be trained as the next avatar, supposedly she is going to be evil on account of her upbringing. people are already hoping for the two of them to have a raava/vaatu thing going on.

>>149541948
>Is it not at all about min-maxing?
Minmaxing is for fags. Take the hand you’re dealt and run with it. Shitty stats can be just as fun as OP stats.

>>149537452
You also thought a non brown male was the obvious choice for the sequel to avatar, why do you bother being disingenuous about this on 4chan of all places

>>149541025
Money is the only legal adventurer backstory motivation now? I missed the memo I guess

>Korra
>Blind girl
>:O

>Avatar 3
>Handicapped girl
>:(

>>149536800
That scene in Kids.

>>149541401
MC of Dragon Prince was a guy.
First human to learn how to do (non-evil) magic too, because fuck a thousand years of professionals studying magic.

>>149542536
He was also straight as fuck, just to prove this anon wrong.
>>149537615
Had a girlfriend by the end of S1.

>>149536767 (OP)
>Another "totally fake /pol/tard ragebait fulfill your civic duty /co/mrades!" leak turned out to be real
I'll feign surprise and mourn for the dream that never was

>>149541878
>if a character has a disability they should have some bullshit ability to not only completely minimalize the impact but also be even better at the thing that disability should theoretically make them bad at
This is grade A retard logic, but also you're a fucking moron if you think the leg is not going to come into play with shit like metalbending down the line (we've literally scene the version where she's missing her wooden peg and the version where she instead has a metal runner's prosthetic).

>>149537839
>MC having like 10 children
You said anime, not manga. In the anime he doesn't have any kids. Unless S2 has come out and they've timeskipped. He technically has a kid at the end of S1 because he impregnates Eris when she turns 15 and he's still 13.

>>149542425
Not necessarily but you are not playing alone and it looks kind of strange when you have a ragtag bunch of a thief, a lucha orc wrestler, a jolly frog witch, a bear disguising himself as a man, the whole party having like 5 gold pieces between them for equipment at the beginning, and then they are joined by this dude on a wheelchair that would take several years worth of wages and commissioning an inventor to build in medieval times. It's like Richie Rich going on an adventure in a gypsy camp.

Plus like others said, a wheelchair is not only the least interesting way to get around your handicap in DnD, but also the most impractical due to its weight, cost, maintenance, and providing the least extra accessibility. You could be learning telekinesis to fake being able to use your legs, or skin your legs to the bone and have a necromancer bring them alive, and so on and on.

>>149536767 (OP)
>twins separated at an early age who lived very different lives
>absolutely going to have deep-rooted tension and rivalry
Built for wincest.

>>149537485
>Pavi with an animal guide pet named Geet
>Pavi and Geet
>PaGeet
Well played

>>149542664
Fun fact: DnD is fantasy and you can create any reason you want for the character to have a wheelchair and also not be rich.

>>149542664
Dude, you don't have to use a wheelchair. Why the fuck do you care so much?

>>149536767 (OP)
Will this bring owler out of retirement?

>>149536767 (OP)
I didnt know this was a pirate show

>>149536767 (OP)
Is her injury plot relevant, or is it the usual woke fetishising?

>>149541910
fuck off and KILL YOURSELF communist jew scum

>>149536767 (OP)
She's the king of England?

>>149536767 (OP)
Looks like a cheap french show. Losing a leg us also not really a big deal worth special snowflake representation points

>>149536767 (OP)
It'd be cool if she tied her prosthetic into her bending somehow. Like if she had a compartment where she stored water for emergency water bending. Or she got the wooden one replaced with metal and used to metal bend. Or she lost the prosthetic completely but then starts kicking people with a foot made of fire.

To be honest, the weird vibe that the leg gives is that....

ergh, it feels like they were "okay, our last character was a bissexual brown tomboy, how can we make the next character more woke? I know, an even darker skinned amputee!"

It feels that they did it because they "had" to do it.

And regardless, the design suck. Every aestethic piece of this new season seems to be much more like She-Ra than anything related to avatar. These backgrounds have othing to do with the avatar style. The SETTING is straight up destroyed.

>>149536804
I actually went and rewatched both movies just recently and I'm still amazed that this setting is so fucking vapid and devoid of potential and creativity. So much fucking effort and at the same time, all of it wasted because Cameron is a fucking hack. Couldn't even hire a speech coach for his main character so he sounds like a fucking idiot for the entire first movie, and somehow sounds worse and even more out of place in the second.

>Here's your new avatar bro...

>>149537350
lmao ok, black girls shouldnt be around pedophile freaks like you anyway

>>149538207
SYBAU, The post apocalypse is awesome.

>>149543547
>SYBAU
Kill yourself.

>>149543648
SDIYBT so you can prepare for the coming SA, oldhead.

>>149543701
TIHJDJUBGKTN to you too, fatherless mutt.

>>149537911
I bet she will walk normally instead of walking like a pirate just because animators are lazy

Is the twin supposed to be that person in the back?

>>149543956
That seems unlikely to me.

>>149543956
No, they are identical twins, we saw her in the early leaks.

>>149536767 (OP)
So how did Korra destroy the world?

>>149544005
she kissed a gril

>>149536800
Nothing. It's distinctly uninspired, and they clearly dropped it into a post-apocalypse because they didn't know where to go after "MECHA WITH FUKKEN PEW-PEW LASER BEAM" shit they wound up doing in Korra.

>>149543956
No, that's an airbender who she'll be begging to put babies in her for the entire show.

She has an identical twin.

I mean, she has two legs, but otherwise identical.

>>149543956
this is her twin

>>149543956

I'm a huge racist and I liked the first Avatar show and I also liked Korra, here's to hoping that this new Avatar show will be good enough to counteract my racism.

Did Korra destroy the world because her job was becoming obsolete with the advancement of technology?

>>149536767 (OP)
are the final designs better or worse than the concept art?

>>149544040
>Activate Windows
KEK

>>149544040
...the good and evil twins even have their own good and evil twin pets?

>>149536800
Adventure Time

>>149544081
She destroyed the world because the United Republic council was voting to release the Pathik Files and her name was in them.

>>149544108
They even have their good and evil airbender partners. Note that the evil avatars partner is a black guy.

>>149544089
I like concept art Jae more, his final outfit doesn’t say “Avatar” at all.

>>149544108
Well, if they are both Avatars, then they both have animal companions, so it'd make sense to give them a pair of animals that were originally from their parents or whatever.

>>149542013
Imagine being this bitter and spiteful over the existence of cripples

What do you think the level of technology will be in the show?

Or I guess, what the level of technology was supposed to be without the world-ending disaster.

I assumed it would look a lot like our world since Korra basically took place in the 20s/30s in terms of technology.

>>149542256
>She unleashed some worldwide cataclysm that set the world back to just 7 fortress cities, with the rest of the world being a mad max wasteland.
>not even joking, according to the leaks that's the plot.
That's actually not what was leaked. It was never confirmed she unleashed or caused the cataclysm, just that there was one that she failed to stop or something, and that she then used bending on a global scale to create the seven havens.

>>149544040
So are they just ripping off south Asia this tie or are they just freeballing? Honestly it's just giving off generic fantasy vibrations

>two female protags in a row
oh boy

>>149544108
>>149544167
>Well, if they are both Avatars, then they both have animal companions, so it'd make sense to give them a pair of animals that were originally from their parents or whatever.

We don't even know if they are both avatars or not, the only part we know is that the White Lotus kidnapped the twin thinking she's the Avatar and raised her under their influence. So she has an animal companion because they THINK she needs one due to being mistaken for the Avatar.

Of course they could pull a raava/vaatu and say she's an evil avatar twin.

>>149544237
>It was never confirmed she unleashed or caused the cataclysm, just that there was one that she failed to stop or something,

I don't think you are familiar with Korra if you seriously think that's how she operates. If there was something cataclysmic happening, it's very likely that it was just some random minor problem that she handled so fucking badly that it nuked the world.

>>149544210
>>149544249
Post-apocalyptic fantasy cyberpunk, probably done to address the complaints about Korra being too industrialized to the point of literally just being our world but the 20s.

It seems like Bryke are burrowing from their original pitch for Avatar, which was sort of like this but with Aang. Alongside a scrapped episode idea of him encountering a "false Avatar", an idea that was also used in the first Kyoshi book.

>>149544210
Based on clothing and the city's design, I think that it will still advance but limited in scale and sector. The clothing looks fantasy 40s-50s, manufactured rather than traditionally made (look at Jae's belt, boots and pouches--they're like a slightly more modern take on the sort of thing the equalists wore).

I think the cities will have kept the machinery (even rural Earth Kingdom gangs had automobiles), but the fact that most of the world outside the havens is hostile and dangerous means that resources to make new shit will be limited. Most tech will be like refurbished stuff from whatever year it was when the cataclysm happened. Poorer places will probably be more ATLA traditional with no technology (except maybe scavenged shit, like electrical wires used as cordage, cars broken down into pieces and used as furniture, etc.), richer places will probably have electricity and have kept the machinery in working order.

>>149537911
as long is not just ultra perfect warrior, but instead this become one of her limitations and gets some creative choreography

>>149544319
>I don't think you are familiar with Korra if you seriously think that's how she operates
Yes, memes, xD etc. But if you actually look at the situation seriously, and factor in the early rumblings that Pavi would uncover what had happened and that people (in general) look down upon Korra, it's pretty obvious that it wasn't actually something she did, just something she couldn't save everyone from, so she saved who she could.

do we know how many years after Korra is this? Maybe she died young

>>149544455
>Yes, memes, xD etc.

It's not just memes, she was a literal wheelchair bound invalid for years at one point. She also opened up the spirit world which had irreversible effects on the planet.

>>149544284
>the White Lotus kidnapped the twin thinking she's the Avatar and raised her under their influence
There's also no reason for her to have been given the animal by the lotus if Pavi also has one. The early leaks that discussed the whole separated twins plot also said that there was some sort of unclear Avatar "power" to Nisha, but that the didn't know what that entailed. It is very likely that either Raava was split to some extent between the two, or one of them is holding Vaatu.

>>149544530
To be fair to her, Tenzin encouraged her to leave them open, the spirits forcefully retaking Republic City is intended as a good outcome of the balance between them and humans

>>149536767 (OP)
I'm only watching if she gets fully naked in one episode

>>149544530
>She also opened up the spirit world which had irreversible effects on the planet.
So did closing them in the first place, and disseminating bending amongst humanity so they could spread across the world instead of living on lion turtles, and so did Vaatu opening the portals in the first place, but the world still went on for thousands of years the first time the portals were opened, and for thousands of years when they were closed again.

>>149536922
Korra's worst mistake was naming a character Mako after a dead VA only for the show to shit on him at every chance they got, seemed really disrespectful even if it was unintentional

>>149536767 (OP)
> 26 half hour episodes spanning TWO SEASONS
Already garbage. ATLA managed 20 per season with for 3 seasons.

>>149536767 (OP)
Why are the twins clearly different ages?

>>149544615
Based

>>149544800

>>149543990

>>149544030
>>149544039
>>149544040

>>149537350
No

>>149539061
Is that a fundoshi? Based.

>>149544867

>>149541794
You have to plan out how far your characters can realistically walk in a day based on your stats. You have to just purposely ignore it for the wheelchair person.

I'm all for trying to figure out a cool way for them to be handicapped if they want, but they're being facetious by claiming the wheelchair makes sense. Wheelchairs suck in general, but are almost useless outside of a concrete paved city with wheelchair accessible ramps and such. Even then people often complain about how difficult it is getting around. Let alone trekking through a forest and crawling a dungeon.

>>149537485
Huh, I thought the twin was supposed to be a guy though.

>>149542664
Not to mention that the mechanics of size and weight are often a point of contention to add difficulty to your journey. "Omg, we convinced the dragon to carry us to the next town but he can only carry up to 400lbs of weight. Good thing we're just two guys that weigh 170lbs and neither of us has to lug around a 50lbs chair or anything."
>>149542740
No, it's not about thinking up a dumb OC and going trouncing around it's about getting thrown into unexpected problems and trying to figure your way out of them with logistical constraints being put upon you to thwart your plans, often to a malicious degree. Having to sidestep the unfeasibility of a wheelchair is antithetical to the entire spirit of the activity, especially when, as others have pointed out, there area a plethora of solutions that already exist that are in the spirit of the activity. The only reason this exists is a bunch of busybodies who don't even play D&D or understand what it's about decided to invent a problem and then force it to be changed to accommodate their ridiculous demands.

>>149536804
t. James Cameron

>>149536922
It's not Korra. It's some Avatar who came after her. Not that anyone here will care about correct information

>>149545271
The avatar cycle is water -> earth -> fire -> air, it's why the fire nation genocided airbenders, to find and kill the avatar who came after Roku.

So we had Aang (air), Korra (water), and Pavi (Earth) is the one directly after Korra. If they skipped an avatar, she'd be a firebender.

>>149536767 (OP)
KORRA CAUSED THE APOCALYPSE LMAO

>>149536767 (OP)
I'm excited

>>149537235
Please don't lewd the Savior of humanity

>>149536800
>inspired
damn nigga that's a good joke

>>149540938
The combat wheelchair was nkt only blatant virture signaling, it was mechanically retarded, and there's no better way to stir up the grognards than to post shitty mechanics.

>>149536800
Ghibli probably

>>149540938
It was stupid in context and mechanically

>>149536767 (OP)
Would be nice if she's a sandbender

>>149545626
>The Combat Wheelchair has a number of capabilities and features, including:
>Giving the user Proficiency in Tinker's Tools
>Weighing only 25 lbs and the ability to fold up
>A backpack to dismiss carrying capacity penalties
>Transmutation/shapechanging causes it to meld into you when transforming
>Ignores terrain penalties for grassland, forest, coasts and mountain travel
>Has movement of 25ft at all times, 2x movement speed down hills,
>Locked to the user, cannot be dispelled, unable to be thrown off the chair
>Floats up and down stairs
>Guided by a hand magic stone, can craft a magic variant that responds to telepathy
>Three different natural attacks built-in
>Impervious to damage unless it takes three critical hits, can be mended, still usable for common

>Fag starts a campaign like a fucking premium player just by having a wheelchair
One of my favorite things about that whole clowshow is /tg/ coming to the conclusion of just giving combat wheelchairs to the whole party and go rolling around like a band of murderhobo Professor Xs

>>149545728
Would sand bending use earth or air bending to move the sand?

>>149545738
You mean specifically for her? Hopefully earthbending. Basically make her sandbending as the foundation for learning airbending easily (since earthbending and airbending are polar opposites and we saw Aang struggle to learn earthbending because of his airbending nature).
Sandbending presumably has more in common with airbending's weightlessness than earthbending's rigidity.

>>149536767 (OP)
I thought Korra was the sequel to Avatar?

>>149536767 (OP)
i know people say this easily but genuinely looks like ai, like it drew from all those no mans sky type games with orange green brown colour palette
aka it looks like shit

>>149536928
Difference is that it used to look good. OP's looks like an imitation of an imitation.

>>149544040
Let me guess, pavi is ying and nisha is yang.

>>149545962
Pavi is the bottom and Nisha is the top.

>>149544039
I need them to retcon the magic kites I don't know how they'll do it I just need it done

>>149544000
Lmao
M
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>>149544040
Why did they ditch the avatars having spirit guides that corresponded with their element? Did they think badger moles weren't marketable enough compared to these stupid cat lemurs?
>>149544089
Concept art is way better. It feels grounded and less plastic.

>World goes through massive technological/social progress
>Enter Korra
>Within 50 odd years society erodes to a post apocalyptic shithole

Truly the worst Avatar to ever avatar

>>149544040
>the twins have their own twin pets
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Controversial take: I hope a reincarnation of the Dark Avatar shows up, but as a good guy.

Do we know anything about her traveling companion that's probably an airbender?

>>149546079
Controversial take: I hope Bryke decide to retire after Seven Havens

>>149546113
Leaks said he’s a member of the White Lotus and he flies with his airbending on a hoverboard.

>>149545962
>and nisha is yang
Yang is Yang!

I hope the story leans into lesbian romance from the start rather than just tacking it on in the end. I want it to be like one of my yuri animays.

>>149546143
Do we know if the villian will span both seasons?

>>149546180
Hopefully if she does have a girlfriend she's done rich sheltered pale ojou sama type and if they are feeling real creative make there some way they can have kids together

>>149536767 (OP)
woke uninspired garbage that doesn't even look like avatar

>>149546197
No, nothing about the villain or main conflict has been said yet

Her stupid getup with every colour of the rainbow...

>>149546289
Well then I guess I'd rather then keep it a secret

>>149546131
>controversial
it's not like any studio is stupid enough to want them for non related avatar stuff

>Twin taken by mistake and said to have similar abilities
So Pavi has raava and Nisha vaatu?

>Korra deliberately destroys the heritage of the world
>the world collapses into desolation

>>149546397
Not the first time they make a lesbian evil and stupid

>>149540938
because its stupid and nonsensical, while also being insultingly and pathetically pandering.
Newsflash: most disabled people don't like being reminded that they're disabled.

>>149536800
money

>>149538897
I can't wait to see the descendant of Longshot and Smellerbee blast someone in half from 1000m with a .55 caliber rifle in the name of the New Colonial Republic.

>>149536767 (OP)
I guess the airbender guy is an Aang's descendant since he's pale (like Tenzin's kids) instead of brown like the nu-airbenders

>>149546682
if aang's line survives but the rest of the gang's line doesn't, you'll know bryke's self insertion has been complete

>>149536800
More wuxia than anything.

>>149538106
Toph's design was fucking awesome though. An unapologetically tomboy girl with a boxy silhouette thanks to her baggy clothing. This new avatar design looks like it was made by someone who would unironically defend the solo poly hijabi amputee that even leftists made fun of. It's a lame design with one too many cliché modifiers on the character description.

>>149544039
>>149544040
I want to impregnate Nisha

>>149536767 (OP)
she is cute

Do you think she lost the leg because Korra gave her really bad advice one day?

>>149547244
That would be absolute kino, so it definitely won't happen.

>>149536910
>>149536922
The premise makes it sound like she's sacrificed herself to save the world. To me it finally makes her interesting.

>>149544000
>I'm sorry
lmao

>>149536767 (OP)
Why aren't they blue?

>>149547277
She is the Avatar directly after Korra right? Imagine only having Korra's wisdom to pull from. This poor fucking child.

>>149547312
That's anti wisdom.
The duke that ruined everything is now giving you advice is a fate so fucking horrible I wouldn't blame this avatar for going insane or looking for ways to break the avatar state on purpose.

>>149536909
I'm glad it's not only me, that new superman cartoon, the disney spider-man cartoon, voltron.. I swear they all look like they have the same art director

>>149547348
Because they do. Voltron, Superman, Korra, and Young Justice all share behind the scenes art talent and were worked on by animation studio Studio Mir.

>>149537235
Her peg leg is buried in the ground to keep that pose

>>149547122
i agree anon. comparing them is cowardly

>>149536767 (OP)
Can't wait for the E;R review series.

>>149538291
I do think that the basic concept of a sequel where the setting's nascent industrial revolution has changed stuff up and rendered the Avatar and bending of questionable relevance in a rapidly changing world is interesting, and has a lot of potential.

The issue, imo, is that they failed to commit. Like having Amon be a secret bloodbender who could stop people from bending and had a nonsense motive. What they should have done is double down on the whole morality tale aspect, have Korra realize that she can't fix social unrest by punching it or bending real good, and instead has to use her position as avatar to do what Aang did: gather up and inspire people who can fix things, then help them do it. The most useful thing Aang did to end the 100 year war wasn't KOing Ozai, it was getting the smartest and most capable members of the Southern Water Tribe, the Greatest Earthbender Ever, the rightful prince to the Fire Kingdom, and the old people who stood behind each of them to work together. Meanwhile Korra's allies were mostly useless, except for the adults who she never cooperated with.

I also would have appreciated more showing of the social upheaval, rather than just telling. Zuko didn't change his mind about the war because of Iroh's sage wisdom, he changed over the course of being a hungry refugee for the entirety of season 2. The Fire Nation wasn't bad just because everyone was mad at them, we saw them actively planning and executing genocide.

>>149537384
You sound extremely jewish.

>>149536767 (OP)
https://x.com/Variety/status/1948451782528585818
Found a post with more description of the new series:
>The official “Seven Havens” synopsis reads: "A young Earthbender discovers she’s the new Avatar after Korra – but in this dangerous era, that title marks her as humanity’s destroyer, not its savior. Hunted by both human and spirit enemies, she and her long-lost twin must uncover their mysterious origins and save the Seven Havens before civilization’s last strongholds collapse.”

So yea, Korra fucked everything.

>>149547335
>duke
Didn't know Korra was a medieval landowner

>>149537384
...they did do mass death. It was a kids show, so they did the courtesy shot thing where it all happens just offscreen and noone ever says the word "kill", but they did everything but outright say it. They had slave labor camps, HEAVILY implied deathcamps, genocidal raids, mass famine and refugee crises, and terror attacks against civilians.

If you want to complain about the hypocrisy of doing a fantasy World War, then having the MC go "I've never killed anyone!" (cue the joke edits of Aang sinking ships and crushing tanks) and suddenly find a way to cripple-but-not-kill fantasy hitler, that's legit, but they showed the consequences of the war as much as one could without going "look, kids, a mass grave!".

>>149547606
The fuck did she do

>>149547685

>>149547685
Broke the border between the spirit world and earth and now earth is a hybrid hellhole of a world.

Korra was both a better character than Aang and a better show than TLA and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>149547791
You were pretending? I just always assumed you were a retard.

>>149536767 (OP)
What could had caused Korra to mess up the whole world like that

>>149536767 (OP)
I have no idea why, but she reminds me of Suletta.
Might be the brown.

>>149545730
>One of my favorite things about that whole clowshow is /tg/ coming to the conclusion of just giving combat wheelchairs to the whole party and go rolling around like a band of murderhobo Professor Xs
Fuck it, just go full on motorcycle bandits.

>>149538543
>It could always be worse. If her sister is the dark avatar she only has Unalaq
what sort of advice would he give?

>>149547994
Probably that and the big eye brows and floofy hair in a ponytail

>>149547992

/co/ theorized and take it with a grain of salt but god I want it to be true, Asami and Korra had a falling out and how Asami might have decided she wanted to do things that would anger the spirits which really doesnt boil it down since spirits since their initial conception live and exist by the belief of KILL HUMANS BEHEAD HUMANS ROUND HOUSE KICK A HUMAN!

>>149541123
>>149545730
It's a perfect storm. It pisses off roleplayer types because it trivializes a potential character motivation/plot hook and destroys a bunch of archetypes for characters or NPCs. And the rollplayers are pissed because it's blatantly overpowered and means any non-wheelchair build sucks, and ALSO removes the !Fun! of playing a character who's deliberately gimped.

>>149537485
>>New avatar is a young girl named Pavi with an animal guide pet named Geet. She lives in homeless poverty in one of the havens, she has a twin sister who was mistaken for the Avatar and is separately living the life because of her having similar abilities to the Avatar despite not actually being the one.
So the twin is bonded to vaatu somehow?

>>149547994
The leaked character descriptions said Pavi was supposed to be gentle and passive, compared to how bold and assertive her twin Nisha is.

>>149548121
sounds fun

>>149546073
Lmao

>>149546073
>>149548317
Making the Lesbian the avatar was the biggest mistake ever because she went and nuked the world

>>149545655
The original avatar was already partially inspired by ghibili.

>>149542596
What happened to this? Did the writers or someone at nickelodeon thought that they needed to rid on the trend of brown female protagonists?

>>149541064
Other big concern, along with overexploitation and everything else with the franchise, is the D.I.E. politics that they're adhering to...

Knowing that it is a hindrance to freedom and a creative minefield.

>>149536767 (OP)
It's incredible how generic it looks. Is it AI? On top of that these desperate attempts to make ATLA into a franchise are all doomed to fail and I can't for the life on me imagine who would watch this shit.

Just let it go.

>>149548617
It's literally a setting where only asians exist, they've already adhered it since conception

>>149548767
Ok my fault, it isn't about the serie's setting the problem, it's the politics in studio and process in pcomig proyects that will, or would, misguide into a disaster.

>>149536800
Mad Max

What in the generic-ass YA fantasy is this?! This looks like something I'd buy on a whim during the Steam Summer Sale, not fucking Avatar.

>>149541064
You just said a whole lot of shit without saying anything meaningful. I didn't even know it was possible to shit out THIS many words and still end up with something that isn't remotely comprehensible. It's actually impressive how fucking nothing this post is.

>>149536767 (OP)
You can't get me to care after Korra S2.

>>149547348
>>149536909
I've been calling it the netflix/voltron faux-anime style. Invincible has a generic cheap look to it but I don't think it really fits in with the rest.
>>149546365
Yeah more light/dark avatar shit, you can see the light and dark motifs worked into the twins designs and most obviously, their animals. It's been known since the leak with their names literally meaning light and dark.
>>149544089
Always much better, feels more in line with the first series.

>>149536767 (OP)
This looks nothing like Avatar and more like some Reddit vermins idea of what Avatar should be

>>149536767 (OP)
>pavi


woke, girl boss, gay, quirky, shit looking, zoomer humor pile of horseshit, and even worse than all of that it stars a jeet.

>>149549638
>netflix/voltron faux-anime style

yeah that fits it perfect.

>>149536767 (OP)
God I hope the cunny gods bless us with good UOOOHH of this Avatar

>>149550740
They already did.

>>149539357
>Gifted Earthbending Avatar
>In a Pajeet notFallout Apocalypse World
>Lands are rife with scrap & pollution from Korra's Industrial Age
>There's even geode crystals in her hovel areas.
Fuck money, she has ample resources to make a better leg. Go Bumi Style and make a crystal leg that extends or shifts into various weapons. Shit, cut both legs off, replace them with stone prostethics, and let her fly with earthbending instesd of air as he levitates her legs like Magneto. Even Ming Hua, a waterbender born with no arms had better usage of bending to compensate with their disability and Toph's blindness made her the sassy IP man of Earthbending. For a world more shit/hard than Aang's or Korra's generation, Pavi is a soft ass chump that couldn't survive shit.

>>149536800

>>149536910
Actually they did this because otherwise they'd have to deal with modern era technology (minimum 1960s, possibly 80s.) That would have made for some uncomfortable decisions. Do they do a space age? Internet? Modern lives are dictated by financial data. We're locked into 9-5 wageslavery, credit scores, background checks, and mass surveillance networks. It isn't fun to write about. Their original plans looked to be going cyberpunk angle and got backlash.

They fucked up. ATLA was steampunk, Korra was 1920s. After that human history was no longer comfy. So all they could do was a hard reset to post-apocalypse.

>>149540272
Makorra should have won.

>>149541019
I love this

>>149543380
I miss the Steppe Nomads, they kept civilized people on their toes so they didn't have time to indulge in this kind of nonsense.
We need Tamerlane to come back and start stacking skulls again.

>>149550889
Not for nothing but the original pitch was a cyberpunk world.
That was shot down because it's terrible.

I guess after LoK nuked the lore to kingdom come, having the next story be a post apocalypse is practically the only way to go if they wanted to avoid the setting becoming even more modern or futuristic.

>in the span of max 80 years the world went from the industrial age to post-apocalypse
Glad their at least making it canon Korra was the worst Avatar in history.

>>149551131
Doesn't that also go against their whole premise as well? Nature/environment is essential for bending, if the setting becomes a typical cyberpunk concrete jungle with so little nature, benders would no longer be born.

>>149551491
They could always just go further back on the timeline instead of forward honestly, it's obvious at this point they've written themselves into a corner with LoK's setting if they have to resort to this.

>Hag Korra flashbacks

>>149537615
I think is funny that if you don't know any better all those pictures could be of gay couples of any gender and you could never guess because that's how it is there. I guess the guy with the beard can be a guy, since they are not full blown retarded and the spiked boy hair has too retarded of a design to be anything else but a boy. Anything else is fair game, man. the chick with big boobs can have a even bigger penis and the cute girl? a cute boy. and the cute boy? just a tomboy.

>>149551574
A lot of terrible ideas were shit down before they could make the final cut

Wonder if Pavi will get the almost-a-mary-sue Toph treatment or the Korra ryona-every-fight-scene treatment.

>>149551697
Yeah, they just advanced far too much in LoK from Americana to steam punk mechas, and the the final fuck you by opening the spirit portals. Them going full post apocalypse is almost like bryke admitting that LoK was a mistake. At the very least, I hope they give the new avatar an avatar journey because that's what was really missing from korra with her spending most of her time in that lame ass city

>>149551840
On one hand, I want hag Korra porn. On the other hand, it would be really fucking funny if she blew up the planet and herself right after s4 and her cast shows up in this one as jaded thirty-somethings instead of ancient masters or spirits.

This looks like a generic wannabe anime cartoon. You could tell me this is an art from some shit like Onyx Equinox and I would believe you. Every design looks like a "generic unoriginal fantasy" cartoon

>>149537615
Pleasu understandu, the nippon birth rate is in great decline due to our shit culture, so we must indoctrinate our populace with the very cartoons that greatly contributed to their celibacy to convince them that they must pair and mate.

MTG hijack

more info coming at SDCC tomorrow

>>149552328
also this

>>149552315
Birth rates are low almost all across, I believe even in places like India, despite the massive population as well as China. I don't get the fear mongering over Japan specifically.

>>149552247
I couldnt put my finger on it, but something did look off about the style. It's as if the Korean sweat shop they usually outsource to got too expensive, so they went to an even shittier one

>>149552375
I honestly dont know, I just used prime minister abe is a meme because he literally kept telling his people to have sex and multiply. If I recall, japan isnt even the lowest birthrate in (east)asia, south Korea has them beat, but my theory is that this stems from a bunch of westerners/japanophiles who care way too much for what's happening in japan

>>149550889
>>149551131
>>149551574
I think a cyberpunk Avatar could have been cool.

Breed waterbender girls

>>149536767 (OP)
>Follows Earthbending twins after a world-shattering disaster where one discovers she’s the new Avatar after Korra
>Korra was such a shit avatar the world literally ended

>>149537384

It's a kids' show, you whiny faggot.

>>149536804
based and robust

>>149553132
worst part is that there is no one else to talk to when the new girl has to inevitably go into the past lives for help. all she will be greeted by is an idiotic sociopath

>>149552850
I was convinced that's what they were going to do. Voltron kinda counted, but I figured it would be more like a non-Avatar kid-friendly RAGE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSle4wp6NAo

>>149553195
"it's a kid's show" when someone says something bad about something you like
"it's an adult masterpiece" when someone glazes something you like

Just fuck yourself with a cactus, my guy

>>149545271
Either she's the avatar directly after Korra or this is like 500 years after Korra

>>149553132
>destroys the avatar cycle and leave the world in complete shambles upon her death
She really was the worst of them all. And here i thought Roku fucked up for not killing Sozin when he had the chance.

>>149537384
>if you're not going to commit to the dangers of war like mass on screen death.
A major part of the story is a genocide. An actual genocide where they were all wiped out

>>149550982
Korra should have ended up with no one. Mako and Asami were fine together, Asami and Korra had NO chemistry at all, and Bolin and Korra was dumb. Korra is an insufferable shit who is not capable of making good choices even when told she's making the wrong choice. She deserved to die of her own hubris.

The only things we know so far are new girl is down a leg and Korra ruined everything somehow. There are cool things I imagine you can do with that setup, but I'll reserve judgment or interest until the show is actually out.

For what it's worth, I did enjoy Korra's show.

>>149553132
>>149553228
Kinda funny that when told to consult her past lives, there will literally only be Korra there to dispense blunt stone-walled attitude.
>"Avatar Korra, how did you deal with this?"
>"I just decided to punch shit until something changed or someone else did something, like an airbender turning into an angelic spirit being."

>>149547564
E;R is a lolicon. he will worship Pavi

>>149553330
To be fair to Roku, he did stop Sozin for several decades.
He only resumed his colonial ambitions when he left him to die (and even then he waited twelve years for the comet)

>>149554647
whose er?

>>149536767 (OP)
korra had none of the soul of the original, will this one have negative soul?

>>149536767 (OP)
It’s going to be revealed halfway through the show that Korra didn’t fuck up at all and was actually Heckin Framed

>>149549273
Where have I been most incomprehensible? I know I was clear on at least 65% or 70% of the post. One of the points to be made is that the series will be an immediate continuation of the spin-off, which is a rather hasty direction, and given what's happened in the spin-off, it's out of step with the lore and mythology of the main series.

>>149554861
the big bad will be a orange male who wants to send the spirits back to the spirit world.

>>149554861
Does it matter though? The world still ended under her tenure. Just look at Roku. Regardless of how the story is spun Korra’s life ended in incompetency.

>>149541910
Tank wheelchair says no

I am the last person who thinks Wan was a good Avatar but he was absolutely right about the spirit realm needing to be segregated from the mortal world.(and he did this as an Avatar whose best friends were Spirits!!)

I genuinely am a little confused as to Korra’s ideological line which said humans and spirits need to exist on the same plane for true peace or whatever.

It pretty much goes against what every prior Avatar thought on the topic, and it does seem like the logical endpoint was reached in the new show since most of the planet is now a Death World overrun by Spirits and Alice in Wonderland logic environments

>>149536804
Nah it’s still shit

>>149536767 (OP)
the fucking pegleg. had to be a soulless checkmark character design.

>>149548122
>separately living the life because of her having similar abilities to the Avatar despite not actually being the one.

What does this even mean? Similar abilities? Like bending multiple elements? Only the avatar can do that. Because I can’t think of anything else

>>149555032
She is the dark Avatar

>>149554998
There is speculation or hypothesis that it is an allegory of migration... which is why mixing political ideologies with spiritual themes is somewhat shocking.

>>149554998
The two worlds needing to coexist is a lie because Vaatu created the portals himself, it is by definition unnatural. Wan was 100% right and it was Korra’s usual reckless thinking that led to the apocalypse and her untimely demise.

>>149536767 (OP)
>Give her a pegleg for disabled representation!
>Also, cook her skin so we can have a brown woman character who-
It's literally "Put a chick in it and make her gay." tier bullshit. I bet her brother is going to turn out gay and/or trans too.
It's going to be a complete fucking dumpster fire.

Can’t wait for them to introduce the concept of half spirit mutts or something

Tieflings but for avatar!

>>149554834
gigachud eceleb who made a funny korra review

>>149536767 (OP)
So there’s too many Havens for each to be aligned to a single element

Kitchen sink cites for everyone

>>149555103
As much as I dislike the dumb distinct good and evil flying jellyfish, at least we can potentially get the idea of a reincarnating dark avatar after Unalok now. Or a distinctly reincarnating dark avatar could be a dumb premise.

The funnier twist would be that the twin is actually the real avatar and the White Lotus 100% got it right, and the Mc is the dark avatar because she’s the twin

But the upbringings make the difference in terms of character

>>149548024
Dunno, maybe Korra is big fuck up?

>>149551491
I think that was in the original Avatar pitch. It was suppose take in post apocalypse world with relics of tech in a lot of place. Kind of like Amphibia.

>>149536800
by avatar

>>149555212
Korra did have the aye-aye spirit turn that guy into a hideous deformed freak, then the comic had the same happen to a crimelord. He didn’t even get arrested, he just fucked off. Maybe he had a bunch of freaky snake children

>>149555610
Yeah that was "avatar" in it's earliest stages, momo was a robot and aang had a bipedal dog companion. Wasn't it planned to be a comic at that point?

>>149552375
>I don't get the fear mongering over Japan specifically
It's because the birthrare drop started mucb earlier in Japan and hasn't been fixed. More than 60% of their population is over 40 and things will only get worse as a growing elderly population that's relatively healthy but unable to work puts more and more economic burden on the country.

>>149536767 (OP)
Why is every single pics of western action media only about female characters but never about male heroes anymore?
We already got a lesbian protaognist last time and an entire comic series about another lesbian avatar.
And now we get the third one where even the mentor is female

>>149555806
Male actually, just has long hair.

>>149555771
It's not noticeable in cities Tokyo, Osaka, or Kyoto but go to the smaller towns or villages, you'll fine those places have a rather large population of elderly people.

>>149555771
The birth rates in other countries haven't been "fixed" either, the only difference is the fear mongering started much earlier in Japan. It's sounds more like an excuse to push continous growth as necessary, Japan's population was nearly on par with Russia's.(prior to the war) Like the other anon said, SK is in a much worse position but it's Japan that gets all this attention.
>>149556000
Oh for sure it's one of those things you hear about all the time, all the young people left for the cities. It's become a trend among foreigners to buy older houses and fix them up. This isn't exclusive to Japan however, something similar has been happening in some latam countries too. South Korea has the same issue.

>>149544867
>>149544944
She cute

>>149556066
The fear mongering started earlier in Japan because the decline started earlier, what's so hard to understand about that? It's already affecting their society whereas for other countries the negative impacts ate further out. Even South Korea isn't going to see the effects for a while despite their birthrate plummeting the mosr rapidly.

>>149555806
It's usualy ESG scores and/or virtue signaling. Look at star wars vision, it's an anthology series of different short stories
>when they outsourced japanese animators to do the first season, there was a balance of male and female protagonist
>when they did the second season with domestic creators, every single story had a girl protagonist
It's not even subtle anymore, they give zero fucks about boys for protagonist. It's one of the main reason why so many would rather watch anime than the media made at home

>>149536909
It’s the Studio Mir style, cheap pseudo anime look

>>149536767 (OP)
Steven Universe and it’s consequences have been a disaster to western animation

>>149551840
Source?

>>149544000
>>149544030
Ppl pump out fanart so fast

>>149536767 (OP)
What does she bring to the table?

>>149558713
A spare table leg.

>>149556314
>domestic creators
It was studios from different countries around the world

>>149546023
sorry but the magik kits are more important then you know

This shit will be DOA

>>149536767 (OP)
neat

>>149559554
It will be huge. No one is going to care if Avatar has brown people because it was always Asian Fantasy made by white people. Which is what this is. The lolis will attract pedophiles, the Airbenders will attract fujo. ESPECIALLY Captain Karthik. Kids will just care that it has the Avatar IP because even 20 something years later I can tell you kids still watch the original and Korra on Netflix. It's gonna be as much of a hit as the original and Korra were.

>>149559554
>>149560079
I feel like the show will mirror Korra in that it'll do well ratings-wise with the first 2-3 episodes, but then fucking collapse when the plot inevitably goes nowhere until the last 2-3 episodes.

Remember, this shit is 2 seasons long with 13 episodes for each season. Not only did Korra have pacing problems because of it, but it also had the issue of too many creatives working on the story, especially with Books 3 and 4. Books 1 and 2 sucked because it was pure unfiltered Bryke autism on the writing department, and overworking themselves due to 3 and 4 being greenlit as 2 was starting production while not having enough writers proportional to the amount of episodes per season.

The fact that you have FOUR WRITERS for thirteen episodes each means you're going to get Korra 2.0 all over again. Too many writers fucks over a short story, we saw this happen with RWBY, TOH, and Hazbin.

>>149560219
They also didn't know they were getting season 2 until late into season 1's production so they couldn't change the ending. Season 2, 3 and 4 were still garbage but they were much better paced and constructed than season 1 because they knew how many episodes they were getting at that point and they knew how much room they had to grow the characters. Also Korra's ratings were in the toilet but it, was one of the first shows to be almost entirely carried by online streaming numbers. You couldn't escape Korra discourse online. It was all over 4chan, Tumblr, Live Journal, and all those similar websites at the time. I think this won't be as bad as Korra but everything after season 3 of the original show has been shit so it will be shit. It'll just be successful shit.

>>149560079
>Kids will just care that it has the Avatar IP because even 20 something years later
>kids
Kids dont give a fuck about most cartoons that aren't literal brainrot. this shit is nostagia bait for an audience that long dipped out to Anime.
> It's gonna be as much of a hit as the original and Korra were.
>bryke are writing this
>none of the actual writers from atla are involved
lol
lmao even

>>149536767 (OP)
The fuck happened to her leg?

>>149538665
Based

>>149560567
yeah, protag a cute but i have NO faith in current year writers.

>>149560567
You're not wrong. I work at a middle school (and have worked at an elementary school before) and most of the geeky kids are into anime and video games. Very few of them have any interest in American cartoons unless they're available on Youtube (so indie stuff), existing household IP (The Simpsons, Family Guy, South Park, etc) or were originally Youtube indie stuff that made it to streaming. They also don't have an interest in watching older cartoons at all, even though plenty of it is freely available. They just watch whatever the algorithm pushes or whatever's already popular.

Boy that LoK nerve is still raw around these parts I see.

>>149560686
Which brings me to a bigger point no one mentioned: where are paramount going to air this? Surely they're not going to pidgeonhole this shit to paramount plus right? whatever eyes that would check this out are not picking up a subscription when cruncyroll, netflix and the seas of free anime sites exist.

>>149553132
They'll bullshit some reason why she dun did nothing wrong. But it would be based if they admit she did everything wrong.

It's weird people hate Korra for not being a Mary Sue who effortlessly beats the bad guy with absolutely no consequences like Aang does.

>>149560465
The Korra discourse only really blew up when Korrasami being canonized single-handedly caused loud yuri ATLA fans to make TLOK into a sacred cow and their hill to collectively die on. Until the very end of Book 4 aired, you had very few fans playing defense at that point. The online conversation was dead thanks to the goodwill drying up with Book 1 and Book 2 pushing away eager ATLA fans for different reasons. Even if 3 and 4 did well online, that still isn't an indicator of success. The Owl House did well online (and also was gay much earlier) but it still didn't make it successful.

If Korrasami hadn't happened, the ATLA fanbase would be treating it like how the Naruto fanbase treats Boruto.

>>149560788
>this strawman again
say hi to twitter for us tourist

>>149540938
>>149537961
The magic wheelchair is WoW was dumber.

>>149560686
But they don't view Avatar as an American cartoon, they think its an anime because they don't know any better. I can firmly say kids and teens watch Avatar because I also work at a school and Avatar stuff, like stickers and bookmarks, are the first thing to need restocking in my prize bin.
>>149560567
Something doesn't have to be good to be successful.

>>149560788
The typical /co/ response is a longwinded paragraph about how she was handed everything and had a much easier time as Avatar despite that being horseshit.

Really it's just sexism

Is Pavi supposed to be fantasy Indian(Asian)?

>>149560816
You haven't been paying attention to this IP the last 10 years... even when atla had a resurging boom on netflix during covid, those streaming numbers immediately plummeted with korra

>>149560742
They're absolutely going to put this shit onto Paramount Plus because that was the whole point of moving away from Netflix in the first place. Remember, Bryke was originally offered the ATLA live-action show from a collaboration with Netflix. That's how ATLA ended up on Netflix in the first place. Viacom-Paramount lured Bryke back with Avatar Studios and promising more shows and movies because not doing so would mean:

>they'd have to share profits with Netflix for future ATLA projects
>Netflix would be the preferred spot to watch ATLA over Paramount
>shareholders would be less enthused if Paramount offered more ATLA minus Bryke due to how important creator names are when it comes towards garnering existing audiences

>>149560788
People hate Korra because she's an annoying plot device with no real emotional depth outside of being ryona'd both verbally and physically. At the core, she's no different than Aang (plot device) but she was borne of insecurity/creator-induced misogyny/lack of deeper interest.

>>149560788
>>149560817
Kill yourself.

>>149560895
This. Most of the ATLA comics are being frequently checked out at the school library. Hardly any kid touches the Korra stuff. Even at the local libraries, the ATLA stuff is always on hold because someone has it checked out.

The only kid who shows she likes Korra is a gay girl who wears buttons of MCU Captain Marvel, Hazbin Hotel, and Korra. One single kid. Wish I was lying.

>>149560788
People shit on Korra and that aspect of Aang's story at the same time. They're not mutually exclusive.

>>149560976
Eat shit faggot

>>149561043
The only reason Aang doesn't get more hate is because he isn't as immersion-breaking as Korra's handling is. For as much as ATLA mishandles Aang and wastes his character, it had the common sense to make him the hero of destiny, become stronger, actually have him take down Ozai, and get the girl (even if the romance was similarly middling).

Meanwhile all Korra gets is L after L.

>>149560912
So they are that stupid then, got it. This has DOA written all over it KEK. They haven't read the room that confidence in Bryke is at an all time low after korra, especially with the og cast all gone from the aang movie for DEI reasons. Not even having Aaron back would be enough to restore confidence, the would need the whole team to sell this pipedream

>>149561090
The last thing you should hold against Avatar is DEI, electionfag. It's a show about asian characters doing asian things. Not a white man in sight.

>>149561087
>saved the world 4 times
>mastered energy and metalbending
>got the girl
>"L after L"

>>149558785
kek

>>149561090
It's worth pointing out that Paramount originally announced a lot more Korra content when they unveiled their roadmap for the future of ATLA. Almost ALL of that was canned to the point that the only things we know that actually ARE happening are Seven Havens, the animated Aang movie, the babies spin-off, and the live-action seasons. Anything else (the Zuko movie, more mainline and spin-off series) is solely dependent on the success of released projects that are in production, and whether or not the Skydance merger goes well or doesn't somehow result in jobs being cut or budgets being slashed even more, nevermind potential executive oversight.

Havens will be mid and the Aang movie will bomb. The babies spin-off will do well, and the next live-action seasons will also do well. Paramount-Skydance will end up focusing more on "adult content" and "kids content" so prepare for more Avatar shows that are similar to Bluey or GOT. We will never get more ATLA movies or anything like ATLA or Korra again.

>>149561111
KEK, They recasted prince Zuko, who was literally already voiced by an asian in dante basco. And then you retards wonder why all the idiots who pushed for this VA diversity mandate are now pissed that they are typcasted to the point of unemployment. No one is going to give a fuck about le authentic sounding VA's for a fictional asian fantasy series as opposed to having jack dessenna and Dante back, both of which are more than willing to. Even mae whitman would have loved to play katara again

>>149561111
>made by Anglos

lmao

>>149561077
>faggot
You've no right to call anyone than when you made at least one of these posts:
>>149560788
>>149560817

>>149561210
Them recasting the VAs was the worst possible choice they could have made.

I honestly don't see the Aang movie doing well because it kinda requires that you've watched ATLA and Korra in the same sense that you need to be familiar with the MCU and the previous F4 movies for the newest movie to mean anything. You don't NEED to do "homework" but the premise and marketing inherently has an undercurrent of "you've seen us already, now get ready for the big screen".

The Spongebob movie did well because EVERYONE knew what Spongebob was. Most people had watched it. Spongemania basically took the world by storm, and Viacom pushed out the first movie right when things reached their peak.

>it has been TWENTY ONE years since ATLA came out

Even if the Shymalan movie was horrible, Viacom did the right thing by riding the success of ATLA as it was airing. We haven't had anything to drum up hype for the Aang movie to do well in the first place.

>>149561230
It's just a tourist from twatter. I lurk there just enough to spot this retarded cope that's been repeated ad nauseam on the atla twatter community.

>>149561295
>Them recasting the VAs was the worst possible choice they could have made.
It's like they looked at all the fanfare x-men 97 had with the returning cast and just ignored it, and that series had even less previous material prior to drum up hype

>>149561301
The anon you're describing sounds an awful lot like the Bubbline tranny.

>>149561301
if Korra was the Avatar, let's be honest, she'd fucking die before reaching Ozai either due to:

>annoying Sokka and Katara to the point they give up on her or temporarily leave her at the worst possible moment
>pissing off the wrong person and getting stomped for it
>pissing off potential allies by not shutting up or touching stuff she's not supposed to
>getting ryona'd and not having enough people or strong enough allies to help her
>rushing into a fight against multiple enemies and getting sniped
>killing or maiming Zuko early on

Aang isn't much better than Korra but he only got as far as he did thanks to Katara and Sokka existing. Korra would rock the fucking boat so hard she'd screw it all up for herself

>>149561356
At least X-Men was something you could get excited for because EVERYONE knows X-Men and if you had Disney+ you could just binge watch the series before 97 came out

the Aang movie requires that you genuinely like Aang and want to see a movie about him

>absolutely no one wants that, Aang is literally no one's first choice as "my favorite character"

The ATLA subreddit literally had a countdown/poll for the most popular characters and Aang was what, almost dead last?

>>149561392
>the Bubbline tranny.
Storytime this for me, who is this?

>>149536767 (OP)
Mmm chocolate avatar loli

>>149561475
>The ATLA subreddit literally had a countdown/poll for the most popular characters and Aang was what, almost dead last?
Grim if true, and that is supposedly the audience thats supposed to fill seats for this...

>>149561490
Chronic shitposter who showed up around May. Might be a summerfag. Calls everyone right of Trotsky a "tranny" or "faggot". Staunchly defensive of Bubbline and other yuriships, deeply enraged if anyone disrespects them.

>>149561423
It would be entertaining.

>>149561625
I like swaps like this because they're written from the perspective of treating Korra as an actual character, something neither the dickriders or critics tend to do (something I was admittedly just guilty of).

If she was handled well, Korra would suit ATLA better as a main character and it's not really an accident considering how much shonen and seinen anime from the 90s and 2000s influenced ATLA. Both eras were infamous for having angsty/moody/hot-blooded/sad protagonists.

>>149561710

>>149561831

>>149561710
Yeah, the critics would hate her for letting the war happen. Katara and Sokka would too so that would put a damper in things.

>>149538707
Bet you lived FullMetal Alchemist, though. : )

>>149561423
Korra in Aang's position would just die at the temple and never even meet the OG cast. Then you'd get a mix of Korra and Aang's plots with the successor being a waterbender that gets noticed almost immediately and trained from a young age to deal with the fire invasion, but much earlier into the war.

Now that I think about, the air avatar dying as planned would actually have been catastrophically bad for Sozin.
>water tribes held out for a century, so they have more than enough time to train their new avatar
>even if he focused one down, they could just move the kid to Ba Sing Se and he's completely SOL
>even if he gets lucky and spawnkills the waterbaby too, the next NEXT avatar is even closer to Ba Sing Se or already there
>no more comet boost in his or kid's lifetimes
>fully trained Avatar pops out 15-20ish years later and steamrolls the fire nation

>>149550876
Holy Kek

>>149561941
this is assuming korra was the airbender instead, as is if korra dies the next avatar would be an earthbender

>>149561941
>Korra in Aang's position would just die at the temple
Korra in Aang's position would probably already be at the North Pole by the time the Fire Nation mobilized against the Nomads.

>>149537350
>asian
Indians are asians, anon.

>>149550836
An actual rock leg would not be feasible because it would need precise bending constantly, with every single movement.
Ming Hua does not have to deal with any of that. She summons up her water arms for combat or for grabbing things, and just walks around armless the rest of the time.

>>149537350
Good thing there are no whites in Avatar

>>149561111
The board is brain dead and every once in a while you get some election tourist revealing themselves and thinking there are white people in this setting
You already get people who get mad that it's "TOO" brown, or revealing they don't remember the guru

>>149536800
Generic sci-fi. And yes it's Korra's fault, Korra is when the setting became less Asian and wuxia inspired and became more western.
It's sad, there's not a lot of wuxia sci-fi out there. Korra kinda teased it with using spirit vines but it should've just been chi.

>>149562955
You already got btfo here >>149561210
wish you schizos had more balls to just wave the white flag instead of hiding behind buzzwords. Not even most asians like atla enough to fall for this garbage pandering attempt for chronically online retards who think tweets count as activism

>>149562991
Korra's so weird when you really think about it because the premise isn't a logical step forward from ATLA's worldbuilding

>but muh industry and muh benders

Industrializing makes sense but Republic City's existence is flat out impossible. In real life, rapid industrialization only occurred as more and more people became literate and gained access to healthier and safer resources. The worldbuilding of ATLA didn't really change drastically in any of the time periods before Aang's era and it fits considering the setting pulls heavily from medieval India and China. The Fire Nation might pull from Japan, but Japan ended up reaching a point of stagnation when it industrialized too.

TLOK should have just been more of the same, technology-wise as we saw in ATLA but with a greater focus on the world cultures merging and complementing each other. Certainly not a jump to the 20th century with diesel/steampunk trappings.

>>149563082
>friendly reminder that neither cartoon did well in any of the asian markets it clearly pulled material from, because they all clearly saw that the 'asian inspirations' were window dressing at best from two white jews on a wuxia/anime larp.

>>149563082
>/co/ is actually super high IQ because uuuuh the creators do some dumb shit too so the real retardation that happens here doesn't matter
Saying "I btfo you!!"(to my first post here) just makes you more desperate. Doesn't change anything I say, saying "KEEEEEEK" doesn't change anything either

>>149563140
There's a fandom for AtLA in Chinese speaking countries
People pretend that Asians hate it because of some shitty youtube video or because they think Japan is the only Asian country. Don't tell them that Kung Fu Panda was one of the most successful animated movies ever in China, then their framing falls apart

>>149538380
Made me lol then made me sad realizing that this happened to people who were just tryna farm

>>149563140
>because they all clearly saw that the 'asian inspirations' were window dressing at best
I've watched Bilibili videos praising it and a lot of them were looking forward to the Netflix adaptation(and called Azula fat)

>>149563140
This. ATLA/TLOK has no real following in Japan despite it pulling extensively from anime. It isn't just that the cultural influences are superficial in some areas, it's that things are a hodge-podge slurry

>the Air Nomads and Fire Nation both pull from India, but the Air Nomads pull from Tibet and Buthan while the FN pulls from Mongolia, Thailand, Japan, and Korea
>The Earth Kingdom and WTs pull from China but the WTs pull from Native Americas, East Russia, Pacific Islanders, and the Inuit while the EK also pulls from Japan and Korea
>despite the fact that the nations should have different languages, everyone writes and presumably speaks in Chinese

People point to how JRPGs and fantasy anime pull from Medieval Europe and act as if it's the same thing and get confused when that's the stuff popular with Americans while ATLA has no overseas Asian following by comparison when the fantasy anime/game phenomena in Japan only exists because

>Japan REALLY likes western fantasy books and film (which is itself an exaggeration of medieval Europe)
>Japan was exposed to said books around the same time as they were introduced to TTRPGs and the first fantasy RPG computer games (which pulled from TTRPGs...which pulled from fantasy novels)

>>149563217
Yeah, ATLA did manage to do well in some Asian markets (I think Malaysia really likes it), it just has no real big following in Japan which is what makes fans butthurt.

>>149563190
>word salad greentext
>y-your desperate
Your lack of a proper retort is showing. Good luck trying to convince most atlafags that recasting Zuko of all people for a more 'asian' VA is a good thing. the floor is yours KEK

>>149563217
Anon the ratings for ATLA in a a lot of these countries are known info. having a fandom and doing well are to different things

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ucgojPYq4&list=RDz8ucgojPYq4&start_radio=1
>They somehow made azula's theme even more epic
Based

>>149540534
Because Harry Potter refugees flocked to it after JK Rowling said fuck trannies. The creators and Viacom and Paramount saw this and started up the franchise again to cash in

>>149541794
Because it's being acknowledged by the actual company and media.

>>149563133
A lot of people here mistake bad execution for bad concepts. Like the new avatar being less spiritual but more physical than Aang was a good idea.
But one major problem behind everything in Korra is the fact that they didn't have time to let ideas bake and mature, Nick kept asking for more episodes and then more seasons so they just started making shit on the spot. Unlike with AtLA, where new ideas were come up with and formalized(like Toph), but they still knew what they wanted to make(a strong jock joins the team, opposite of Sokka)
>TLOK should have just been more of the same, technology-wise as we saw in ATLA but with a greater focus on the world cultures merging and complementing each other. Certainly not a jump to the 20th century with diesel/steampunk trappings.
They got too rigid and forgot that AtLA's setting was pretty anachronistic. But steampunk and Bioshock was pretty big at the time and unfortunately probably took over the most Chinese setting.

>>149542163
Woketard.

>>149563247
Consider ATLA from a Japanese perspective

>those Americans made a fantasy series inspired by Asian cultures and Japanese anime
>(looks inside)
>(it's just a normal western fantasy series but with eastern culture on the outside)

Japan likes their native fantasy anime because it's still culturally reflective of Japanese society and their values. Similarly, it's why they like Chinese fantasy series and novels.

The characters in ATLA don't really act Japanese (or in a way that reminds them of daily life like sitcoms), they act like Americans. If ATLA was more Japanese it'd be something like this

>Katara stays in the fucking kitchen and doesn't do shit besides heal and cry
>Toph is the /ll/ bait and purely a source of comedy and gag humor
>Aang becomes your standard shonen hero and Zuko becomes his rival with yaoi bait
>The FN get extrapolated as being both victim and oppressor
>the EK are equally exotic as they are barbarians
>something something references to nukes, something something postmodern literature references
>everyone keeps sucking off authority and lineage and biological family

>>149563247
>it just has no real big following in Japan which is what makes fans butthurt
It's what people obsess over solely because of the art style and they assume the entire thing is Japanese. I remember when Nostalgia Critic got into AtLA and he did a parody of the opening, and he just assumed the title was Japanese
You see this with how people think the Fire Nation is ONLY Japan, and forget the other inspirations for the setting. Even the official comics did this, that's how deep it goes

>>149563247
>it's that things are a hodge-podge slurry
That's why it's good thoughever. It's literally a building block in fantasy in general.
I've talked with one Chinese guy who was a fan of AtLA and he says that it was well recieved but it just got lost in a sea of other cartoons with ancient Chinese settings
And they just call the Fire Nation Japan

>>149563379
>The characters in ATLA don't really act Japanese
Good
>If ATLA was more Japanese it'd be something like
Bad

Either way, while the Fire Nation is Meiji Japan in government and military/industrialization, but the closest to being an actual Japan expy in AtLA is unironically Kyoshi Island

>>149563384
I feel like the "ATLA is anime" sentiment only popped up in response to casual fans of anime watching dubs over subs. Watching anime dubbed might as well be like watching something entirely different due to the underlying differences in language-cultures. It's why there was a big controversy with the ending of MHA because the dubs and English translation made Deku out to be more of a underdog individualist, something that was not in the source material. J-Deku might as well be the living embodiment of the emasculated herbivore salarymen archetype who helps people and is content with being forgotten or abused for it.

>>149563384
And it's something I've only seen people who want to dismiss the show bring up
AtLA in Japan had a weird release too. Early mornings next to Nick Jr stuff, weird voice cast, Azula's book 2 voice is apparently atrocious, book 3 didn't get dubbed until years later and released on something like Hulu. I remember seeing the few Japanese AtLA fans online talk about it.
People act like it got banned in China but it had a more normal release there in comparison iirc

>>149563431
Yeah, Kyoshi Island not only has the warriors dress in samurai armor and don Japanese weapons, but is very collectivist in how everyone dresses and acts. They even hunt fish and shit.

>>149563409
Of course, the mixed bag of influences is what gives ATLA it's appeal and is something EVERY fantasy series does, it's just that it must seem bizarre to a Japanese person, especially when the characters ultimately act like Americans underneath the aesthetics.

>>149563409
>And they just call the Fire Nation Japan
Everyone does, and this goes back to anon's point; despite the many attempts to thrown in influences from other cultures, the hodgepodge fails to throw off the obvious Japan parallels.
>example, the creators claim the fire nation geography is based on iceland, but the arpeggios, volcanoes etc all paint the picture of japan.
>the very concept of an agni kai is 2-3 steps removed from certain honor rights belonging to samurai, despite the name itself pulling from the hindu fire god

>>149563439
It's a really rare stance. Maybe normies feel that way, but not common among most fans.
Same with Teen Titans, I've seen people bring up its anime influence more to insult it. Even though the creator of 2003 Teen Titans was a Japanese-American who grew up with anime so it's even more natural to "look like that", and it isn't ashamed to be a superhero, quite the opposite
>J-Deku might as well be the living embodiment of the emasculated herbivore salarymen archetype
I'm fucking glad AtLA isn't Japanese, and yes I know its ending isn't without controversy either

>>149563462
The average Kyoshi Islander also dress vaguely like Ainu people
>>149563508
>but the arpeggios, volcanoes etc all paint the picture of japan.
Fire Nation is way more tropical than Japan unless you want focus on Okinawa or something

>>149563508
It also doesn't help that the Fire Nation's shtick with HONORRRRR is something we've already seen in countless American movies featuring Japanese or Chinese characters (due to cultural misconceptions of community-centric perspectives on shame), something that Japan is very aware of. And it goes without saying that the Fire Nation are the bad guys trying to conquer the world and lead a genocide campaign...which is what Japan was trying to do and continues to lie about.

So yeah, makes sense why more people in Japan wouldn't exactly be keen on it. It would be like if Japan made a fantasy anime pulling from various European cultures in a hodge-podge way but with clear allusions, and the American-Britannia parallel is trying to genocide cultures and conquer the world with nukes.

>>149563535
>Same with Teen Titans, I've seen people bring up its anime influence more to insult it.
I've never seen this, and it's far worse to say that against teen titans which never tried to hide it's animeism's

>>149563557
Sure but the fire nation is even more removed in climate from iceland, which was the point.
>>149563563
>And it goes without saying that the Fire Nation are the bad guys trying to conquer the world and lead a genocide campaign...which is what Japan was trying to do and continues to lie about.
>It would be like if Japan made a fantasy anime pulling from various European cultures in a hodge-podge way but with clear allusions, and the American-Britannia parallel is trying to genocide cultures and conquer the world with nukes.
This honestly wouldn't have been such a hard sell in japan when you remember that UC gundam is a thing, the problem here was not throwing in a cycle of violence parallel instead of making the fire nation unilaterally bad.

>>149563576
>I've never seen this
I have, but it was more common in the 00's and in weeb spaces
>which never tried to hide it's animeism's
And AtLA did? It got more into the goofy expressions and chibi stuff the longer it went on.
The inspirations were just different, both shared the late 90's Adult Swim toonami influence, but Bryke were more into Miyazaki films along with Chinese wuxia while Murakami was influenced more by old 70's and 80's superhero anime with some tokusatsu, fitting for a superhero show

>>149563641
No no no, I meant if Japan was making an anime aimed at Americans where the America parallel was explictly evil and unitlaterally bad. But you're totally right about the lack of a cycle of violence thing, Japan LOVES that

>>149563647
I never said ATLA did try to hide it. Just that with Teen titans it was a lot more in your face.

>>149563641
>but the fire nation is even more removed in climate from iceland
The Iceland comparison is because the volcanoes though. And I think it's solely just one specific scene in book 3 when Sokka was doodling some landscape, probably the space sword episode

Fire Nation aren't inherently bad and the show goes out of its way to show that, that's like half of war anime that's still reeling over WW2
If that's too much for Japanese that's their problem, though I know Chinese fans slobber the Fire Nation being bad

>>149563461
>Azula's book 2 voice is apparently atrocious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDtWnLnh-PQ
Atrocious is probably overstating it, but it isn't great.

>>149563535
>>149563431
Idk there are anime that are way above atla and those are japanese.

>>149563683
The problem is that the way they show the FN not being inherently bad is constant shifting of the blame and absolving people's complicity in worldwide genocide based on how much certain FN characters are beloved
>The fire nation war machine was the problem
>actually it was just the military leaders
>actually it was the political leaders and ruling class
>actually it was just the delusions of grandeur of the firelord
>actually the firelord is the victim of a cruel society cycle
>actually...

>>149563535
>I'm fucking glad AtLA isn't Japanese, and yes I know its ending isn't without controversy either
Mha is shit but you are delusional if you don't think that are some anime with fantastic endings. I would have liked atla to actually be like a seinen anime and show blood and shit.

>>149563330
Support this.

>>149563379
>>Katara stays in the fucking kitchen and doesn't do shit besides heal and cry
>>Toph is the /ll/ bait and purely a source of comedy and gag humor
>>Aang becomes your standard shonen hero and Zuko becomes his rival with yaoi bait
>>The FN get extrapolated as being both victim and oppressor
>>the EK are equally exotic as they are barbarians
>>something something references to nukes, something something postmodern literature references
>>everyone keeps sucking off authority and lineage and biological family
You have watched a very small poll of anime. It's like saying that Avatar is not a western cartoons because it actually has character development that doesn't get forgotten the next episode and not everything is a dumb joke.

>>149563508
The one thing i really liked about the kyoshi novels is that it fully drops the not-japan facade. The official origin of the fire nation is that it was a series of warring clans that united under the firelord into an empire. seriously, look up the clan names and tell me with a striaght face that the creators didn't have japan specifically in mind with the fire nation and weren't just muddying the parallels in the atla days.

>>149563384
>Even the official comics did this,
>implying anyone read that garbage

>>149563948
I assume you did, since otherwise you're just some faggot sheep repeating something someone else claimed.

>>149563968
I've tried reading it but then I dropped it since it was garbage.

>>149544040
>indian character has a pet named GEET
lmao

>>149563869
This. The good thing about animu is that there are a lot of series that aren't just battle shonen. Also normalfag idiots that complain about women have not watched stuff like Gunsmith Cats, Gunbuster or Bubblegum Crisis. Atla is special in the west since you rarely get cartoons like that but it's not that special when it comes to anime.

>>149563247
>>149563379
Read my last line here >>149564025. Avatar doesn't bring anything new. The nips are already used to that type of serious storytelling in their anime that is such a huge rarity in western cartoons. That's why they tend to prefer slapstick and comedy western cartoons instead.

>>149544089
Pavi is too busy looking but still neat in the concept and I prefer Jae's look with the hair down(but his outfit in the concept is better).
Sidegrade.

>>149563783
You can talk about them somewhere else

>>149563791
>based on how much certain FN characters are beloved
The Jet episode doesn't feature any FN character and was about how they aren't evil

>>149563824
>I would have liked atla to actually be like a seinen anime and show blood and shit.
And Aang should've ridden a motorcycle and had a gun
>>149563948
Yes, that's why they know they're garbage

>>149564217
>and was about how they aren't evil
...that wasn't the point of that episode. the point was that Jet was just as bad for attacking literal civies

>>149564239
Idk if you are sarcastic but I was serious. Even some shonen like ashita no joe felt more mature than atla.

>>149564193
The last part of this thread was discussing how atla was influenced by anime so I am least expecting people to be familiar with adult swim stuff like cowboy bebop that was an inspiration from the show. A lot of people that like Avatar tend to usually switch to anime

>>149564285
unfortunately there are a lot atlafags like the anon you replied to that live in their avatar bubble and think all anime is sugoi tier memes. It's a common sentiment that these guys hardly watch their own show let alone anything else

>>149564325
That’s unfortunate

>>149537453
Think about how much metal weighs, now think about how much strength a child has in her body.

>>149540938
The original draft of it was grossly overpowered and given special out-of-game protections, and the creator would just shout and/or cry down anyone who criticized it from an objective or mechanical standpoint. Also the double standard, go ahead and say you want to play a PC who is mute, deaf, one-armed, or some other form of disabled and watch the meltdowns happen because you can't magic away your disability with special items.

It was never about representing people, or about inclusiveness, it was about STARTING A FIGHT.

>>149564325
This. They probably only know naruto or some shit like that.

>>149564887
even naruto showed blood and people actually dying

>>149563247
The main reason that Japan didn't get into ATLA is largely just due to it not getting a widespread release. It aired on Nick Japan which ended up failing so it wasn't played on big cable channels like Full House dubs. The only way nips can get into it now is via Netflix but there isn't even a big enough OG nip fanbase in the first place to spread the word about it.