Thread 149541245

First episode of the new indie series "Bullet Time" dropped on the IGN channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuSVSuLHdes

if for no other reason, watch it for Kat

>>149541245 (OP)
visual vomit

So this is just some furfag garbage?

>>149541710
Filtered tourist.

>>149541710
it's just a cartoon bro

>>149541606
>>149541710
DURRR DURRR DURR THIS IS TRASH DURRR

This is what growing up on beanmouth slop does to a generation, like come the fuck on, this shit looks more appealing than any cartoon currently on television. It’s also great to see internet talents like Dorkymations working with long-time industry professionals like Bob Jacques. This isn’t 90’s nostalgiafag garbage, I didn’t grow up in the 90’s and I loved this, it was moreso a direct homage to the great cartoons of that decade like Ren & Stimpy and Rocko rather than nostalgia bait. It also utilizes the writing as well rather than feeling style over substance, as that’s a problem I’ve noticed a lot of Internet wacky cartoons have.

This shit is based.

>>149541245 (OP)
yawn.

>>149541245 (OP)
I love both Rocko's Modern Life and Ren & Stimpy very dearly so I feel like I should be the target demographic for this, but this is kinda hard to watch. A word I'd use to describe it is "overindulgent". There's just too much shit happening all of the time. Constant loud music, constant sound effect cues from R&S, constant yelling, constant over the top animation. Maybe the I'm just not Tiktok brained enough for this or the idea is to be overstimulating on purpose, but I feel like I need to pause the video every couple of seconds to avoid getting a headache. R&S could get really insane and over the top too, but it knew when to have restraint so those moments would hit harder. For better or for worse, this is just having the gas pedal to the floor for the entire runtime.
I respect the labor that has gone into this. This is clearly a love letter of animation and it's cool he was able to get so many big names of the era attached. I just wish I liked it more

>>149542260
This anon pretty much said everything I was thinking. I normally love wacky stuff and this feels like it should be up my alley but it's just not doing it for me. It could just be its trying to hard maybe like a constant REMEMBER THE 90s aura with no break.

>>149541810
no retard its visually painful to watch and dont even pretend to claim that you can too

>>149542522
Okay fag, I guess you’d watch it if it was writer-driven beanslop that looked like this, DEATH TO CARTOONIST DRIVEN ANIMATION, ME HATE BULLET TIME

>>149542879
They're both slop nigga
First one looks like autistic (((Spielberg)))-type shit while this one looks like globohomo slop

Looks like an hyperactive ugly mess

>>149542944
Bullet Time had actual effort and was a passion project, even if you don’t like the overstimuli you gotta admit there’s some real talent behind this like
>veteran voice actor Eric Bauza
>Spumco alumni Bob Jacques, Kelly Armstrong, and Chris Ross
>Modern SpongeBob alumni Keegan Tsetta
>Ren & Stimpy-inspired internet animator Dorkymations
>Danny Elfman, who has composed songs for Tim Burton films
>Internet horror artist David Firth

This feels like a cool combination of a 90’s cartoon and a Newgrounds cartoon, like I said before, it’s cool to see internet cartoonists work with the professionals, and I can see the talented people around the whole Dorkymations circle having a bright career ahead of them.

>>149541245 (OP)
This is exactly how I imagined this show would turn out weeks ago. The episode is only 9 minutes long but it feels like 80 hours because of how overstimulating it is. I guess it's cool that these indie animators are trying to bring that 90s feeling back but WHERE. ARE. THE JOKES? Am I supposed to be laughing at the dog screaming all the time? I don't know...

>>149541245 (OP)
Do You think Eric Bauza threw John Kricfalusi under the bus after the accusations? or he still calls him in private? He was one of the biggest John K dicksuckers during the early 2000s and in his old blog not only did he always defended John K and had a link to John K's blog, but he also claimed that John K is the one who got him into the voice acting business and that he won't even have a career without John

>>149542879
nah i would watch this over bullet time provided that its actually comprehensible and wont induce an epileptic seizure

>>149541245 (OP)
John Kricfalusi's influence lives on in stuff like Fixed, Nu-Spongebob and now this, getting the Ren & Stimpy reboot "tax written off'd" didn't do shit in the end to stop people copying him, uh?

>>149541245 (OP)
That would look good if it didn't have chromatic aberration (or whatever that is called) set to 100

>>149543310
Why must all John K-influenced stuff be panned these days? Fixed is hated by the internet cause they’re brainrotted retards who think the people who made it are zoophiles, Nu-SB is hated by SpongeBoomers who think they’re making faces to create the next meme, and now /co/tards hate this.

How do we make a Ren & Stimpy inspired thing that appeals to everyone?

>>149543161
Just buy an ad already.

>>149542944
>slop nigga
Shut up, brown zoomer. Go back to Spain where you belong.

>>149543582
kys muttoid

>>149543262
>or he still calls him in private?
Most likely

>>149542260
>R&S could get really insane and over the top too, but it knew when to have restraint so those moments would hit harder.
This is the biggest problem. Without any sense of restraint, this style of humor/animation/audio just ends up coming off as annoying.

>>149543575
Cat

>>149543596
PAJEET DETECTED PAJEETE DETECTED

I love bullet time, it’s gross and well drawn. It feels like a spiritual successor to ren and stimpy.

>>149541245 (OP)
It was visually creative, but it looks like a pilot test episode more than anything, or some promo episode for something, is it that or an actual cartoon series? I love slapstick cartoon humor that ren n stimpy had, but i was left "what am i exactly watching?"

>>149541245 (OP)
Neat!

This looks fucking awful like it was made by some cumbrained furfag

>>149541245 (OP)
>>149541587
She is hot.

>>149541245 (OP)
Kat's moaning is making me hard.

Put all the effort into making it stylish but not actually funny or memorable.

>>149541245 (OP)
i don't remember 90s shit being so annoying

>>149541245 (OP)
Great animation and character designs, but the 80s VHS and the "motion-smoothing" effect are AIDS

>>149541245 (OP)
bump for interest.

>naked catgirl playing vidya

who's the audience for this?

>>149543161
>Internet horror artist David Firth
He's only doing a voice, my interest is completely gone.

>>149549916
me

>>149542260
Yeah, it was a very hard 8 minutes and 30 second sit, there were too many effects going on mixed with many extreme closeups and completely different contrasting shots happening back to back over and over and complete nonsense like Bullet eating the gems and whatever the fuck was going on there and the friends somehow being in the game but also being real.

Also kind of felt like a really bad caricature of gamers but that's whatever.

It's a huge waste of talent.

>>149541245 (OP)
Terrible

>>149541587
Built for Small Gamer Cock.

>>149549916
Me

>>149543499
Not co but pizza tower and antonblast are well praised for their art

The Danny Elfman opening theme is really fun.

>>149555133
Pizza Tower was not influenced by John K

It really is shocking sometimes to see the end result of somebody's months of work turn out to be so horrid in terms of audio clarity and have such bad pacing when it comes to actually timing each scene either narratively or comedically.
This is what happens when autism doesn't jive and runs unchecked. Pacing goes out the window and my interest in characters is nonexistent.
Fitting for IGN.

>>149558667
>Nothing happened the whole short
>He just played vidya
It's all style no substance, really, it's nice to look at, to watch, but there's nothing past that.

>>149558773
Yep. Reminds me of Zeurel and Vivzie. I mean maybe they are slightly less worse but they alongside Murder Drones and TADC, all have some varying degree of being unwilling to let scenes simmer and play out. TADC probably has this issue less but then I go back and watch that weird interstitial nonsense in one episode that is just the meme of jangling keys to get people to pay attention and say the animation is good.
I mean I value animation but I don't know if was running a studio that I would want them. Kinda just a fundamental lack of understanding about stories. Like if you're willing to put that type of Reddit shit in where you won't let a cohesive episode with tight pacing be let through that also is willing to go deep onto one specific issue beyond the tired stories we get nowadays of mental health BS then you're just noise to me. And I don't mean deep as uncomedic I just mean writing has to go beyond the commentary of past shows in the 90's and try to actually do something new. Like go deep on some joke that is more unexpected, or make your world a unique sci-fi idea but then extrapolate it further and further.

>>149558052
What is it then?

>>149559319
I always figured it was more inspired by stuff like Eek the Cat or Sam and Max.

>>149559319
Earthworm Jim and French comics according to the creator/artist himself

>>149541245 (OP)
The story and characters are a bit retarded but fuck the visual presentation is top tier. The designs, colors, all of it feels 90’s as shit. Good sound design and VA work too

>>149559004
This. I remember watching the second ep of TADC and being surprised by how little I got out of it. All the scenes and plot beats are there, but they feel so loosely tied together, and the characterization of all the characters (aside from Jax) was super weak too, you could really switch most lines between characters and not notice a difference

>>149560274
You drew this anon? Looks great, thanks

>>149560710
Roger Bacon drew it.
https://bsky.app/profile/rogerbaconslounge.bsky.social/post/3ltrxobpiek2w

>>149559004
Murder Drones was great, if short.
TADC is like halfway through, so this is a weird post. Reads like you haven't actually looked any deeper into either of those shows. Murder Drones is moreso the story focus that you're looking for.

But you are right that these indie series are very, very fast paced. But that's moreso a consequence of how making these indie series works.

>>149560810
oh cool

>>149541245 (OP)
y'know what, i liked it more than i thought i would

>>149560874
>Murder Drones was great

>>149559004
I'm not sure what you're trying to complain about here
Those are all very, very different shows you just brought up and I don't want to assume that you're mad and being cynical because some of these indie cartoons are being successful while what you try to make isn't.

>>149561009
>l while what you try to make isn't.
NTA but why did you even assume that anon even makes indie cartoons?

>>149560961
I'm sorry about your lack of ability to appreciate kino and I hope you become a happier person someday. Or that you got filtered.

>>149561063
I'm actually quite happy, I just hope you develop some better taste friend

>>149561025
There's a surprising amount of posters on /co/ that are trying to get into the cartoon industry, struggle, and get frustrated at the success of recent cartoons. It's just a very cynical industry overall.

>>149541245 (OP)
>shitty VHS filter
>matrix reference
>ripped off from rocko
>disgusting cat girl trying to be from john K
i lasted 16 seconds, pass

>>149561086
>posts kpop
lmao the jokes write themselves, go back.

>>149561125
>He didn't watch KINO-pop demon hunters
your loss

>>149560961
>>149561156
>he didn't actually watch KINO Drones
YOUR loss, anon. Now you better both kiss.

>>149561246
Only if you watch demon hunters fag

>>149541245 (OP)
Is the entire appeal JUST nostalgia bait?

>>149561246
>>149561321
i haven't seen either of your shows. sell them to me.

>>149541245 (OP)
>the entire thread is just posting about the obvious goonbait furbitch
sasuga /co/
show still sucks tho and I'm not going to fap to this ugly pink bitch

Yo original guy who posted >>149559004 and not K-pop as I haven't watched that.
>>149561096
I'm trying to write a book that one day might get adapted into a cartoon and media in general relies so much on writing. I like to criticize these indie cartoons because they are the chief shit inspiring younger gens. We could debate all day whether I'm butthurt or not about the success but you didn't really refute my criticisms at all with specific examples because you're not passionate enough to actually care about the details of a story, only the aesthetic shit.
The reason I brought all them up is because they are all following a trend of catching attention rather than actual story depth or direction.
>>149560874
>TADC is halfway
Yeah don't make me post that pic of the stick figure seeing shit coming out onto his plate and the other stick saying he can't possibly tell if it will be shit or not.
Yeah I watched those shows. Maybe Murder Drones does fulfill that interesting sci-fi idea but then it just focuses on shit I don't care about and thinks the characters are interesting enough instead of just a mass of quirks and "some" serious moments.
Then they get "some" development where they just see eye to eye again or get into a relationship or whatever. Yeah I misremember most of it but basically it doesn't actually have any conflict that means anything beyond what a story entails of having characters have a problem and then fixing that vague problem.
Escapism is fine that is not what I'm arguing against but I'm saying that shit was cool aesthetic ideas that went nowhere except generic ends. Not much separating it from generic slop we get on Netflix. I'm not expecting Shakespeare, only some writing beyond college level stuff.
Also they're fast paced? Then direct it to where its cheaper and still has more story stuff going on and if it's cheaper more thought out shots then there's more length and sometimes that creates more substance to the story.

>>149561652
murder drones is for autists and is high atmosphere dark sci-fi eldritch horror mystery-lore about robots and some of them are weirdly hot, with horror-comedy based on the edgy mid-2000s internet (and anime AMVs)

Kpop demon hunters is shit for normalfags but the girls are kinda cute I guess that's the main selling point

>>149561828
>Kpop demon hunters is shit for normalfags
Don't know why you're seething so much at it just because it's popular, the main selling point is the great animation fun characters, and songs

>>149541245 (OP)
the fuck is this ren and stimpy rocko's modern life spumco slaptick mega babies yucky duck uncle duck space goofs mugman pike lagoon tiny toons animaniacs problems solverz brothers grunt flub camp lazlo the loud house revamped mean spirited oneyplays who framed roger rabbit drawn together itchy and scratchy cartoonmania lenstar ed edd n eddy 2 stupid dogs courage looney tunes earthworm jim bump in the night cory in the house ratz x duck x what a cartoon kaput and zosky corneil and bernie yakkity yak kappa mikey leaderdog catdog spongebob bonkers wacky world of tex avery fanboy and chumchum get blake clone high mr gollum shnookums and meat the raccoons pike lagoon pig goat banana cricket too loud cow and chicken pickle and peanut sanjay and craig johnny test ttgo frumplequest blonic nickcheezy breadwinners robot and monster lego mixels bunsen is a cartoonmania bubsy poohs adventures scumbob goanimate calliou gets grounded mr enter panpizza funny cartoon show 2 electric boogaloo crock of shit?????????

>>149541245 (OP)
really needed some tightening on storyboard or script to be more cohesive, it's hard to get into the jokes when I'm not parsing what's even happening to begin- not in a "it's too visually busy" sense but in "what is this concept" sense. he's a dog who lives in a idyllic beach. he wakes up in horror thinking a monster is here but it's actually... a robot? the robot also seems to be his friend? the robot says he has a tournament to go play. there's a random girl in the timer of the tournament telling him to play better? the robot is inside the game? the timer girl keeps telling the robot to be there to help? the dog just keeps mashing buttons and eating and it's not apparent when he's doing good or bad? the robot takes gems from inside the game? oh, the random girl is actually a streamer, not in the game itself, but the layout made that unreadable? the girl kept acting like the robot was essential to keep the dog under control but the robot then does nothing? the dog's innards are his dad? the dad doesn't want to be eaten despite being food that was already inside him?

Everything only starting being understandable at the very end

>>149562075
It's basically the narrative skills of a child directing this cartoon, making shit up as we go along.

>>149561788
I don't know a huge amount about all the others, but Murder Drones specifically is a very show-don't-tell series that rewards paying close attention and thus increased investment in the characters and what happens to them. Especially after months of following these indie productions pretty long episode release times where there's a lot of discussion in between. It's something you're either into or you're not. And I think you are being overly cynical, because I believe if you actually settled down and gave things like this a chance you'd find they're much more like what you're looking for in a show than you realize.

This may be true for other examples of indie cartoons that you're neglecting by lumping them all into the same bubble. You're being unnecessarily reductive, even if your initial criticism is sound. None of these series are perfect by any means. But Murder Drones, for example, genuinely has a great little story going on despite the flaws you may or may not end up being all right with as it's quite short in episode count, and very fast paced. But this can be alleviated with rewatches and catching details which is why people that do end up giving it a chance tend to end up liking it so much.
Either way I think you should just enjoy what you enjoy. There's always the possibility you might just be out of the intended audience range, a lot of these shows cater to the 13 - 22 year old crowd.

>>149543534
>STOP TALKING ABOUT CARTOONS ON THE CARTOON BOARD

>>149547917
Then you didn't watch Ren & Stimpy.

>>149541245 (OP)
I know what feeling it's trying to emulate but it just doesn't feel like it''s there. Maybe it's trying TOO hard. Might just be me.

>>149541245 (OP)
it's too much going on
it feels like a kyle carozza pitch