what was their endgame with this

>>149568407 (OP)
White demoralization.

>>149568407 (OP)
The author literally said that it was for shipping bait.

Doing that by breaking out Zuko and Mai (instead of making them more interesting) AND with a girl that is already in a relationship with Sokka is a pretty faggot move.

No wonder these comics aren't popular.

White moralization, so Aryan Suki can get Aryan Zuko's genes in my Ayran setting of AtLA

>>149568519
I'm going to regret but people should just take the fanfic pill
AtLA never ended in my head, but the comics aren't canon to me

>>149568419
Elaborate on this lil bro

>>149568629
ignore him, hes being a schizo

>>149568657
I know, i wanna hear the schizo logic I’m in the mood for a good laugh

>>149568407 (OP)
We're not at the end, are we?

>>149568599
The comics are a bane to overall endgame shipping to all of the characters. I can't stomach the unsynchronized pairings let alone the cringey pet names... It's almost as if they're entirely different characters for fuck's sake...

>>149568838
It does feel like the epitome of people not knowing how to write relationships. Like their perception of things is people in a relationship HAVE to act a certain way, according to familiar cliches and dynamics. After all, how else would you know they are in a relationship?

>>149568838
>pre gf Aang: all life is sacred
>post gf Aang :TIME TO DIE ZUKO
bravo Bryke

>>149568578
sorry but the incestuous bloodline will prevail on each and every timeline

>>149568838
I don't care about shipping at all
t. Veteran forklift arguer

How is Azula done in the comics? I hear she got some redemption arc. Is it worth taking a look or is it just cringe

>>149568838
>>149569244
Mad because you've never felt enough love to be lame or mad because they dont fight like your parents?

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>>149570800
Glad because you're defending cringe to the point that you're also cringe yourself. Get a room, you and your gay-ass hugbox posse.

>>149570800
You can't say this when the OP pic is an example of the comic trying to ruin a relationship

>>149570800
>Aang’s children hate him well into adulthood
Lol

>>149568407 (OP)
Slaughtering every character.
>>149568599
It's crazy that fanfics have better writing than the comics and Korra.
>>149568838
Katara got turned into a literal wet noodle gf too. Just pathetic.

>>149568519
>The author literally said that it was for shipping bait
Isn't it funny that the Zutara shippers made Bryke seethe so hard they refused to even allow Zuko and Katara to talk to each other alone again or remain friends at all out of pure spite

>>149571796
isn't that because he self inserts as aang so it's like they were trying to take his chick and cuck him? pretty funny nonetheless.

zutara always came across as a womanly ship desu. it feels like its appeal is the whole "i can fix him" retard shtick women fall for.

>>149571966
Yeah, it genuinely cracks me up how angry it's made them for over a decade. Grown men feeling insecure over some teen girl ship to the point they make the comics like this is great. I'm willing to bet Katara and Zuko won't talk to each other once in the new movie because they're too scared to let them be friends.

>>149568419
There are no whites or blacks in that setting. The most you get is the very light kind of East Asian and the very dark kind of South Asian.

>>149568519
It's weird that Mai would be the author's choice for a ship tease considering it would be more reasonable for Mai to hold negative feelings towards Zuko. Not only that, but Mai barely interacted with Zuko in the first place. You could honestly replace her character with Katara in the comics and it would be a more logical choice if crappy ship bait HAD to be included

>>149572008
I used to be a big Zutara fan back in the day but it baffles me how Bryke allow Zutara to live in their heads rent-free considering Zutara isn't really THAT threatening of a ship. I'm a guy, but I'll totally admit that it absolutely is a very womanly ship based on how the characters actually treat each other throughout the story. Zutara really only exists because Katara is the only female main character of focus who acts emotionally mature, but also because Zuko is everything a teen girl would find hot and interesting.

No girl honestly ships Kataang and it's because Aang is too much like a little brother and little kid. Very boyish from start to end. He's also bald. And the pacifist angle doesn't help because the story makes him look kinda lame instead of cool like a Naruto or Goku or Wander over Yonder or Sora way. If Bryke wanted girls to choose Aang over Zuko, they would have the common sense to make Aang more emotionally mature and have some edge to him.

>>149572163
>I used to be a big Zutara fan back in the day
Me too. Loved that shit as a tween. Surprised to see another one in the ATLA threads.

>Zutara isn't really THAT threatening of a ship
The fans used to be extremely vocal, and a few people in the writers room like the Ehasz couple preferred it. I can see why it made Bryke get all bitchy.

>No girl honestly ships Kataang
If we're talking ships, I also did not like Kataang because of how different Air Nomad culture is from the Water Tribe. Aang was grossed out by the fact they use animal pelts and eat meat, and I just didn't like knowing their family would inevitably be biased towards Air Nomad culture since they need to revive the airbenders.

I like how this gets Sokka fags mad because we don’t have enough Sokka self inserters spamming shitty headcanon like every other cringy comedic male that you fags love.

>>149572253
Oh no, I meant that the ship inherently isn't that threatening based on the show alone (namely because ATLA was never really interested in taking romance seriously in the first place, and because Bryke aren't very good at either). But yeah, the Zutara fans were a very loud and loyal bunch.

That's a good point. The Air Nomad culture is incredibly Buddhist and the Inuit/Native American lifestyles of the Water Tribe would not be something Aang could call home.

There's also the whole matter of Kataang resulting in Katara basically staying in the kitchen or not having any role to do but suck off Aang. Dare I say it, the handling of the relationship is misogynistic and leans closer to 80s movie levels of "the guy got the girl as his prize and now the girl doesn't do shit"

>>149572337
The relationship completely destroyed Katara as a character. She becomes so incredibly 2D and boring that I don't even see a reason she has to exist anymore besides being an airbender baby machine.

>The Air Nomad culture is incredibly Buddhist and the Inuit/Native American lifestyles of the Water Tribe would not be something Aang could call home
Airbenders traditionally didn't even raise their own children. They have complete opposite ideals to the Water Tribe, that values family and earthly connections.

>>149568407 (OP)
This ship is to Gene Yang what Batman and Batgirl is to Bruce Timm. A ship nobody wanted, that undermines the character development in the original product, that they still keep pushing despite how much the fans complain.

>>149572471
Like I said. Seething Sokkafags

>>149572487
It's very heavily implied Suki lost her virginity to Sokka. If anything we're looking out for Zuko because he deserves better than getting his best guy friends sloppy seconds.

>>149572507
Sokka probably put a baby in Toph at some point too.

>>149569244
The specific reason why romance sucks in the ATLA comics is because Bryke (and the writers) not only lack an interest in romance fiction, but they genuinely don't understand the whole point of it. Remember, they created Makorra as a consolation prize to Zutara fans because they perceived the appeal as "angry Water Tribe girl kisses brooding Fire Nation boy", pure superficiality.

Fictional romance (and shipping culture) is born when characters have a great deal of chemistry with each other, but are also emotionally vulnerable towards one another within the story. Tension is built and released. The best romantic pairings are always founded on close emotional ties, similar temperaments, and shared values and interests. Hence why shippers...ship stuff. Real life romantic relationships follow the same logical connecting pieces

>commitment (are they loyal to each other)
>intimacy (how well do they know each other)
>passion (sex)

>Fujos show up when the closeness is between male characters (and certain male characters are basically inherently female: Loki, Starscream, Spock, Griffith, Ryo Asuka, etc), while incest shippers show up when the closeness is between family members.

It's been established ever since TLOK Book One and Two (the seasons where Bryke had the most creative control) that Bryan and Mike not only don't like romance, but they're very immature to the point that they perceive romance as immature. Hence the love triangle, the cheating, and the shallowness to the relationships Korra and Mako are involved in. There's no excitement or intrigue, just petty drama.

>>149572548
Bryke also just suck at writing in general, they really need to have other talented writers tard wrangling them.

They also saw Zutara as a relationship that would be abusive, which is like... Damn. Did they even pay attention to their own story?

if you wondering why no one is talking about the jin novel that dropped a week ago, it's because it sucks as expected.
>Yes, jin gets paired off with a literal who

>>149572507
Yeah I'm a zukofag and I don't like it either. Sokka is pretty much his only guy friend (Aang's more like a little brother). Why create unnecessary relationship drama between the two?

>>149572676
so if I understand the pic correctly and remember the history accurately:

>Bryke are brought on to help with the movie directed by Shymalan
>they're so confident in this that they scrap plans for a Book 4 and settle on having only three seasons to match the planned live action trilogy
>Bryke get fucking rejected for whatever reasons and they cast the blame for less ATLA onto Nick and Shymalan's actions

>Bryke balloon the budget for Book 1 and 2
>the writing is also dogshit because they're in charge this time
>TLOK bombs in ratings and is taken off the air
>Bryke then blame Nick

>the comic comes out
>they then shift the blame onto Gene for why the writing is ass

>the live-action series is announced with Netflix
>Bryke then claim creative differences were to blame for them leaving and act like Netflix ruined everything...and coincidentally, it had nothing to do with Viacom-Paramount offering them Avatar Studios

>>149572676
Bryke suck at writing because they don't read enough good books and scripts and don't churn out enough scripts or stories. If you aren't an active reader and a constant writer, you will never improve at writing.

Anyone can be a decent writer but most people don't want to put in the work for it. If you look at any example of a director or writer or showrunner or artist deemed a hack or "an ideas guy", it's because they NEVER READ and barely write.

>>149572676
It's the average male frustration with the female fetishization of Byronic characters.
Look, it's no secret that a shit ton of Zutara shippers are girls self-inserting onto Katara and Zuko is as about as Byronic as you can get with a kid's show character.
If there's one type of character men get to be mad at women for completely fucking ruining, it's the Byronic Hero. What was once meant to be a dark tortured complex anti-hero figure being made synonymous with "romance" novels which are basically just softcore porn.
Granted guys have recently gotten into the same shit with Byronic women/"simping for evil" so we can't really fault them anymore.
I think in Bryke's case, they're mad because they genuinely couldn't wrap their head around the appeal and only really thought of romantic subplots in terms of more cutesy wholesome shit at the time.

>>149572896
If Gene's comments are anything to go by, the antagonism towards Zuko was reflective of petty seething over childhood crushes getting with "bad boys"

Bryke and Gene are retards who don't understand that women do not like "nice guys" because "nice guys" are neither powerful nor compassionate, they're selfish, immature, and entitled. Being polite and friendly is basic manners. Women are the ones who decide to be with men, so it is the responsibility of men to appeal to and attract women rather than whine about how "Stacy won't fuck me" despite doing NOTHING TO GET STACY TO LIKE YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE

>>149572528
Yeah. No way Suyin doesn't have some water tribe blood in her.

>>149572811
>Bryke then claim creative differences were to blame for them leaving
What if the live action is going for a Zutara route in book 3 and that made Bryke shit themselves and dip? I don't think I'd ever stop laughing.

>>149572968
Poor Zuko. He wasn't even a bad boy in book 3, it's weird Bryke and Gene are stuck viewing him as such a one-dimensional character.

>>149573454
i know there are other possible explanations given the retards we're talking about, but i just cant help but think this might be it. the announcement of them splitting where mike says he did what aang would do says it all kek. they are hopeless self inserters