Thread 149616748

Unlike with other acquired characters, DC has never really made an honest attempt at trying to give Patrick "Eel" O'Brian his own corner of the DC Universe. Whenever he gets any focus, it's usually as part of a team, or in an Elseworld story.
Most people seem to like him just fine, so do you think Plas could work as a solo character again in this day and age?

>>149616748 (OP)
When's he entering the Gunnverse?

>>149616748 (OP)
The Kyle Baker series was awesome.

>>149616759
when they get to the terrifics

>>149616879
Poor choice.

>>149616894
i guess it could also happen before

>>149616748 (OP)
You just need to put him in the hands of a good cartoonist who can draw funny superhero hijinks. It's remarkable how well the original Jack Cole strips hold up in their sense of humour. All you need to do is strike a tone similar to that.
If he doesn't have his own corner, I think that's largely down to how ephemeral those Cole stories are. They don't really give him a hometown, recurring villains, or really any supporting characters aside from Wheezy Winks. It's all about Plastic Man himself.

>>149616964
>hometown
Mammoth City exists, not sure if it was established by Cole, but that's been meant to be his Gotham or Metropolis.
>recurring villains
Not right away, but later he gets a bunch of kooky villains that could be easily brought back.
>any supporting characters aside from Woozy Winks
I mean, there was a chief of police I think.
But even if it wasn't much, new writers could always just make something up.

>>149616748 (OP)
You'd need another Jack Cole.
>>149616776
No, it was shit beyond a handful of issues.

>>149616748 (OP)
My only idea for a Plastic Man series is bringing back Doctor Dome and writing him as a mix of Aku, Dr. Drakken, and Dr. Doofenshmirtz.
Also give him Doctor Doom powers that he uses in mostly silly and petty ways.

>>149617189
Poison Ivy?

>>149616748 (OP)
I don’t know a lot about plastic man but isn’t he ridiculously overpowered? I think that’s the challenge in giving him any villain that could be “recurring”. does he have weaknesses?

>>149617748
>isn’t he ridiculously overpowered
God shut the fuck up.
I'm so tired of this shit being one of the only things normies say about Plastic Man.
And no, it shouldn't be a problem considering Superman and Flash have their own Rogues Galleries.

>>149616748 (OP)
To be honest, I'm not sure what modern writers could with Plastic Man, but I'm also not too familiar with GOOD modern writers who can bring the best out of that character. Even with a good writer, it's admittedly a big ask to expect Plastic Man to carry a solo comic for more than a couple issues or show for more than one season these days.

Aside from that, maybe cameo appearances are for the best. I know Plastic Man had a Ruby-Spears animated TV series from the late 70's to the early 80's, but it's been ages since he had his own show. I noticed he made cameo appearances in stuff like Batman: The Brave and the Bold, Injustice, and Harley Quinn Fartacular: Silent Butt Deadly. Most of those cameos were fine, but that cameo in Harley Quinn was kinda awkward because he was reduced to be her fart-containment suit.

>>149618185
Are you familiar with Plastic Man's mythos? Like that time they said he was the son of the original Plastic Man?

>>149617748
plastic man is infinitely durable but still only has the strength of an average person. it's very easy to put him out of commission long enough for you to do whatever crime you wanted to commit.

>>149616748 (OP)
He literally only works as comic relief, no one actually cares about him.

>>149619772
He only works as the straight man. He's Dino to Woozy's Lewis.

>>149619772
i care about him as comic relief

>>149619772
He worked pretty well as a horror character in Injustice and pic rel

>>149619282
>but still only has the strength of an average person
Until he gives himself Batman's build

>>149619282
I haven't read much stuff with Plas, but didn't he take down Fernus and basically save the Justice League that one time? That seemed pretty busted

>>149619930
we can take it even farther

>>149619827
Maybe in his early comics, but modern Plastic Man only exists to be silly and as a chance for the artist to draw something wacky.

He just needs a cartoon.

>>149616759
>>149616879
>>149616894
>>149616914

Gunn seems to be a big fan of Plastic Man in general. Could work as a solo movie then build to a Terrifics film

>>149620131
plastic man is more like a looney tunes character than a superhero. but in a good way. so a cartoon for him would work best as a series of shorts, blending action and comedy but leaning towards making jokes.

>>149616759
With the way Gunn operates, if some writer can pen a decent script for him, they might get the greenlight.

>>149617190
>No, it was shit beyond a handful of issues.
Pleb taste. You probably liked it then found out Kyle Baker is a black guy.

>>149620131
Gunn should greenlight the old pilot
>>149620187
He had some DC Nation shorts

>>149620131
He had a cartoon.

>>149620131
That's cheating, any obscure hero can become relatively mainstream with a popular enough adaptation.

>>149620235
Gunn is making a Blue Beetle cartoon instead.

>>149620235
man, DC nation was fucking great

>>149616748 (OP)
He doesn't even have any memorable villains.

>>149620950
Lady Granite? Amorpho? Madame Brawn? Dr. Dome? just admit you don't read comics.

>>149620206
I liked it when I only read the first 6 issues. Then I read the rest. Baker really dropped the ball. He should stay away from computer art.

>>149620028
Modern Plastic Man sucks.

>>149621515
Modern Plastic Man has been the only Plastic Man for over 2 decades.

>>149621032
I said MEMORABLE, I don't care if you read that list of Plastic Man villains you found online, most of these have never even shown up in a new comic actually written by a DC writer.
>Madame Brawn
I've actually read the two (2) issues she appears in, technically his first recurring villain, but she also died in her second appearance and never came back, see what I'm saying?

He needs a female counterpart

>>149622003
Not popular enough for that.

>>149620167
>seems to be a big fan of Plastic Man
Based on what?

>>149622003
Madame Rouge in Teen Titans

>>149621576
Whats this panel from

>>149616748 (OP)
I love the Jack Cole Plastic man, but dislike the jokester Plastic Man that appears in team books and stuff.

>>149621515
>”hmmmm how can i be wrong and different”

I liked him in gene luang's terrifics run.

>>149624546
She's technically not a female version of Plastic Man, but rather an evil version of Elasti-Woman from the Doom Patrol.
She's been dead for a long time and no one has bothered to bring ber back, but her daughter is still around fighting the Doom Patrol like her mother.
>>149625005
The now iconic Event Leviathan mini, issue 4 specifically.

Who can stretch better, elastiwoman or plasticman

>>149620298
Didn't the movie bomb? Why is he getting a show?

>>149625378
The movie for whatever reason is still "canon" to the DCU alongside The Suicide Squad

>>149620298
Because he likes the actor and the movie is actually pretty well-liked by those who have seen it. It's not bad enough for them to ignore, and it doesn't contradict Gunn's vision for the DCU.

>>149625377
Unlike Rita, Plastic Man is usually portrayed to have more control of his powers.

>>149625253
Same. Genes got a great Plastic Man. If he ever gets a new writer, it should definitely be Gene. Same for Metamorpho.

>>149617392
This design is so stupid and yet perfect

>>149625356
I know but she was similar enough to Plastic Man in Teen Titans

A silly plastic woman would probably tickle a lot of fetish zones

>>149622003
this + turn her into his daughter or an interesting love interest with a radically different personality (stern, stoic, probably more secret spy-like in terms of design/powers, and yet genuinely loves his goofy ass)
>b-b-but Offspring already exists!! you can't do that!
it could be for a Plas-focused AU where he doesn't appear

>>149626734
it'd tickle ALL the fetish boxes
ALL. OF. THEM.

>>149626749
I like the idea of it being his daughter in addition to Luke who resents him and the powers she inherited but learns to appreciate them both overtime. If not that then perhaps an unrelated woman who by some cosmic coincidence gains the same powers in a freak accident and Eel has to help her rehab and gain control of the powers.

They could also just bring back Ramona

>>149627318
I like the idea of Ramona being an actual character outside of that one-off TBATB appearance and not just a background prop, but how would she end up with Eel's powers? What would be her "new" backstory?

>>149619884
Somehow she didn't get infected by that

>>149616748 (OP)
Put him in a Batman or Superman movie, played by Jim Carrey.
Worst case scenario, the AI de-aging looks like plastic.

>>149627681
I remember an episode of TBaTB with a ray gave people Plastic Man’s powers. The cheap answer would be to say that Ramona was hit and the device was destroyed before she could be cured. Aside from that, I’ve always found it interesting that the supposed commercial chemicals that gave Eel his powers were never reused or replicated to give others the same powers, so it could be a situation in which Ramona is subjected to the chemicals as well either intentionally or against her will.

>>149616748 (OP)
Where could I read his book?

>>149622003
What about Impossible Jones?

>>149620275
>becomes popular thanks to having popular media
Then it isn't cheating, you fucking dolt.

>>149630231
I like her. I’m thinking more along the lines of an in-universe female counterpart to Plastic Man who coexists with him and the rest of the DC Universe though.

>>149617190
>You'd need another Jack Cole
Well fuck.

>>149617190
>You'd need another Jack Cole.
Bullshit, that's like saying only Siegel and Shuster could properly make Superman stories.

>>149625356
Thanks should I bother reading Leviathan? I know its Bendis but I love Plas and the Terrifics.

>>149632143
Superman has lots of good comics with different writers and artists. Plas only has Jack Cole (and his assistants).

>>149632331
No, he doesn't really do anything, and it's honestly Bendis at his worst.

>>149632368
My point is that Plastic Man isn't some impossible to figure out character.

>>149616748 (OP)
Why is he called Plastic Man if he has rubber powers?

>>149633908
He's plastic as in "easily shaped or molded".

>>149616748 (OP)
Where is he

>>149634954
Plastic Man.

>>149632546
Welp, never mind then. Thanks for the heads up anon

>>149616748 (OP)
They should make a Plastic Man and Offpsring mini that's just the Goofy Movie.

>>149616759
Is he?

>>149638351
I would definitely read that

>>149632368
Kyle Baker's great (for the most part).
The Phil Foglio miniseries was pretty good as I recall.

>>149639749
Baker's run is mostly awful.

>>149616748 (OP)
>DC has never really made an honest attempt at trying to give Patrick "Eel" O'Brian his own corner of the DC Universe.

This is bullshit. He has had DC comics before but they don’t last because Plastic Man is a C-lister.

>>149640293
But he doesn't have to be.

>>149640883
But he is

>>149640904
But they could change that.

>>149620187
This is true but there's often a dark streak or a genuine undertone to his wackiness, which in most cases keeps him from being too grating or just a gag mascot.

How many times did he hide as women's wear IN_STORY at this point?

>>149617189
Do what Puddle Trouble did and make do superheroing for community service

>>149641450
Man, it's always just team books or Elseworlds for Plastic Man, and even in the Elseworlds he's usually part of an ensemble.

>>149641596
Plas has been part of the police and the FBI already, he's paid his debt to society.

>>149618185
>Harley Quinn Fartacular: Silent Butt Deadly

Why do they have to make my guy a part of their weird published fetish stuff?

>>149620206
The only "bad" thing I have to say about Kyle Baker's Plastic Man is that the meta stuff about DC's retarded events, edgelord shit, and sense of self-importance kinda dates it to that specific point in time. I still had a few laughs though.

>>149628945
She does it so she can inflate her ass and tits for Plasticman's benefit, like when he makes adjustments in the bedroom for her.
>I'm referring to his peeped weenus

>>149642957
Adjustable assets are exactly why more women should have these powers

so is plastic man basically a shapeshifting senator armstrong?

>>149641450
>>149641596
Plastic Man as a solo character is at his most compelling when he’s a man trying to better himself. he’s not perfect, but he’s trying his best.
I also want to bring up Injustice Plas. he’s like the jester of the justice league. funny, but also willing to ask the hard questions and call people out on their bullshit. as a man who’s been on both sides of the law, Plastic Man embodies the benefits of mercy and rehabilitation. under a more authoritarian and brutal Justice League, he’d be dead. but he’s not. he was given chances to turn his life around, and eventually he did, and the world is a better place for having him.

>>149643186
Basically

>>149625014
>but dislike the jokester Plastic Man that appears in team books and stuff.
Picture?

>>149640249
No, it's mostly great. And then the ending is not so good.

>>149616748 (OP)
Can he fly?

>>149645283
No, it's mostly bad. After the the first arc, it's a series of gag stories that aren't as funny or compelling. The Scott Morse issues had nice art, but they were quite empty and dull. It's a massive disappointment.

>>149646228
Sometimes if he transforms into something that can fly, like a bird.

>>149647223
What about a plane?

>>149647344
Probably.

>>149622003
No, men are better

>>149616748 (OP)
Where was he in the DCAU?

>>149647344
He's done that.

>>149648277
he was mentioned in JLU

>>149648322
Sad that he couldn't make an appearance in it

>>149616748 (OP)
He's a niche character.

>>149648131
>>149648294
Is there anything he can't do?

>>149650288
1. Be a present father
2. Not be a complete gooner around women

>>149650982
we all have our vices

>>149616748 (OP)
With a good writer

>>149641593
Three?

>>149641593
I don't know about turning into women's underwear but I think I he's turned himself into women at least 12 different times

>>149617748
Heat, acetone, and electricity

>>149649288
Not too niche

>>149638351
They should do more with Offspring in general

>>149616748 (OP)
>DC has never really made an honest attempt at trying to give Patrick "Eel" O'Brian his own corner of the DC Universe.
He's better as an accessory to the universe as a whole. Plastic Man's presence in any DC Universe or JL story shifts the tone. Plus, he was great in Brave and the Bold, Justice League Action, and all those little shorts he had. It's honestly more good content than most DC c-listers get.

>>149616748 (OP)
I think he could but only in an animated format. Not in a live action sense. Wasn't there supposed to be a Plastic Man movie or did that get canned?

>>149657761
There were supposed to be 2 that I can think of. Keanu Reeves was going to play him in the 90s

>>149657761
>>149658690
There’s been talks of a Plastic Man movie for the new DCU directed by Darren Aronofsky and played as some kind of body horror thriller but I don’t know how much of that concept has been repurposed for the Clay Face movie instead.
We were also supposed to get an adult-animation show with Leslie Jones as a genderbended (and probably race-bended) Plastic Man. Probably for the best that one never made it out of development.

>>149659018
Wasn't the Aronofksy Movie just a rumor?

>>149659018
>and played as some kind of body horror thriller
sounds awful. Plastic Man’s body horror should be present but unstated.

>>149659087
It definitely was, though I think the concept would have been close enough to the Clay Face movie we’re getting so I think it may have been repurposed with a different shapeshifter to match the intended tone. I imagine Gunn would want to include Plastic Man in an adaptation of the Terrifics or something with his brand of humor

>>149659632
I don't know if Gunn would direct The Terrifics himself with how busy he is

>>149661109
Everyone just kinda assumes it because of this tweet he made and it's exactly the type of team Gunn loves to write about so much.
I think it was just a hint for the Justice Gang, considering they also have matching uniforms and half of the Terrifics team.

>>149661670
Maybe he will write it with someone else directing?

i just want to see plastic man on the big screen

>>149662962
Same

>>149662962
How well does he translate?

Who stretched better?

>>149665827
Plas

>>149665827
Wasn't Elongated man capable of shapeshifting in BaTB? If so, then it probably is him.

>>149625675
It is, really wish they'd bring him back somehow.

>>149616748 (OP)
What do you like about Plastic man?

>>149670069
I just think he's neat.

>>149670069
He's fun

>>149670069
The whole world needs more Plastic Man!

>>149670069
He just interesting, you know. And kinda fun.

>>149616759
He'd be fucking terrifying in live action. Luffy and Reed still look weird despite years of technological progress in film. Someone as wacky as Plas just cannot be depicted well in the real world. If Gunn is planning on using him, I hope for the love of god that it'll be for a cartoon.

>>149622003
Not necessary. He could become the female counterpart if it was absolutely required.

>>149625377
Jake the Dog.

>>149670167
She even has his colors

>>149628945
>I’ve always found it interesting that the supposed commercial chemicals that gave Eel his powers were never reused or replicated to give others the same powers
IIRC one comic someone tried on his wife, but it turned her into Lady Granite instead, so at least modern canon is that the chemical's reaction on people is unpredictable.

>>149671836
So many flavors of woman

>>149670069
I have a soft spot for the sillier characters.

>>149671823
I finally saw Superman last night and thought they did a pretty good job with presenting Metamorpho and Engineer's body changing powers. Fundamentally I don't think it would be too hard to portray Plastic Man's abilities. Though it may have to be in small doses.

>>149662962
Do you think those kind of people would make him look better if this happen?

>>149675718
those two aren't changing the human parts of their bodies. their facial features aren't painted onto a featureless mass sculpted into the shape of a human. their bodies don't constantly contort to the tune of rubbery squeaking. what works for them isn't going to work for plastic man.

>>149670069
He is very funny in the Brave and the bold series. And that new Justice League action show.

>>149616748 (OP)
They started re releasing his older material again at least. Hopefully this time they actually complete it.

>>149676872
And hopefully they'll reprint the Kyle Baker run too. But man, I fucking ate up the Finest collection like candy. So damn fun

what if he didn't have sex and his name was chaste-ic man

>>149670069
We just like him, that's all.

>>149673869
Where does the blue color come from?

>>149679348
Sometimes he can change color, sometimes he can't. Depends on the writer and artist.