Post characters who are in the public domain.

You are now in the power of stardust!

>>149634852 (OP)
This is so so autistic that it does full circle and becomes good

>>149634852 (OP)
Ironic how American laws made Mickey fall under public domain faster than he otherwise would.

>>149634852 (OP)

>>149634852 (OP)
10 more years and I can start selling Batman vs Bugs Bunny comics.

>>149635873
King Kong is already in the public domain.
I assume that's referring to the movie version?

You fags aren't creative enough, it's always "say, you know Mickey Mouse and Pooh are PD?"
Dennis the Menace (US), Marmaduke, Dick Tracy and a lot of the Harvey characters are PD too but I haven't seen anyone do anything with them. Why not just for shits and giggles make something with one of those "blank slate" characters nobody's heard of?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Character_copyrights#Animation_Origin

>>149636010
That's the one problem with the public domain, we're all a bunch on lazy dumb uncreative incurious dumb fucks who won't or can't do anything other than "DUUUR WINNIE SLASHER FILM UHHH MICKEY MOUSE HORROR GAME"
Certain dumb and disingenuous personalities will argue this is why public domain is inherently bad, but there's endless examples of people using characters they love or at least know anything about beyond "the other copyright holder will get mad", and do something with them. We're just fucking dull retards nowadays

>>149635939
Well, that's not entirely true. The whole trademark debacle stems from people saying that Disney will try to argue that Mickey Mouse functions as a brand logo, and that allowing others to use him could create brand confusion. But the law says

>prospective purchasers expect goods, such as dolls, labeled with the name of a fictional public-domain character to represent the character. In re United Trademark Holdings, 122 USPQ2d at 1799. Thus, a mark that identifies a fictional public-domain character used on goods such as dolls is merely descriptive because it describes the purpose or function of the goods. Id. (concluding that "dolls described as or named LITTLE MERMAID refer to the fictional public domain character, and other doll makers interested in marketing a doll that would depict the character have a competitive need to use that name to describe their products").

So, no, unless Disney throws money at Congress to change the law, Disney cannot use Trademark law to stop you from using their stuff.

>>149635873
King Kong isn't public domain?

>>149635084
I’ve been thinking about using him for a webcomic. but I need to go back and figure out what his actual powers are

>>149636083
>Because no one cares about them.
While it's true at the moment we're mostly stuck in the 1920s dregs
>supposedly nobody cares about a character
>nobody wants to take the opportunity to remake the character and make people care about said character
>return to point one

>>149635873
>Joker is public domain in 2036
election season too. that has to be the year that the country collapses

>>149636010
Nobody other than public domain nerds knows that they are PD. Hell, there are still people who think Popeye and Mickey are not or are about to be public domain. You can't blame people for not doing anything with a character when they don't know that they can.

>>149634852 (OP)
>>149636010
It's always superheroes or cartoon characters. Nobody really wants to do anything with old school jungle heroes.

>>149636263
Mickey Mouse is honestly such a boring character there isn’t shit worth doing with him

>>149636261
I would do cool stuff with Tarzan.

>>149636083
>Because no one cares about them
The vast majority of people who did care about them are either dead or too old to create anything new for them. They entered the public domain too late.

>>149636279
Not helped by the fact the Burroughs estate still owns some rights to it.

>>149635781
>Soviets Tintin is public domain, but no Captain Haddock yet
>>149635873
>original Popeye is public domain
>use Popeye as Captain Haddock in your new Tintin comic

>>149636227
>You're better off making your own new mascot in fact that's what Disney themselves did when they created Stitch who is more popular than Mickey Mouse.
It's also literally what they did with Mickey after Walt lost Oswald

>>149635939
The problem are the budget bloat of the new productions + international rights

>>149636290
Tarzans rights are still partially owned by the the Burroughs estate. I recommend using one of these public domain substitutes
>Ki-Gor
https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Ki-Gor
>Kaanga
https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Ka%C3%A4nga
>Jojo The Congo King
https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Congo_King_(Fox)

>>149636296
>the Burroughs estate still owns some rights to it
What >>149635939 was referring to but less pessimistic
Edgar Rice Burrough's pre 1930 works are in the public domain in the United States, but most of the big names are trademarked; until ERB's estate either chooses or forget to renew the trademarks they are still protected in that way. I assume theoretically you could use them if you called them "Jeff" or something, I've wondered if you make a movie or something with the same story but with stupid names they'd be able to go after you

The only characters that work here are ones that become such cultural icons that their names are stand ins for whatever they represents
Every big ape is king kong, I remember my dad calling George of the Jungle Tarzan, stuff like that

>>149636300
>No Haddock until 2037 or Professor Calculus until 2039
Fuck me

>>149636182
Universal already lost to Nintendo in the courts over Kong.

>>149636261
Sherlock gained a lot of adaptations once he hit the public domain, and Arsene got more editions.

>>149636279
He and John Carter are because of the author state, not even disney wants to deal with them.

No one ever does anything good with these characters anyway and I won't trust some third party that probably just wants to make some quick cash like every Disney rip off DVD

>>149636279
>>149636261
Rulah has the added novelty of being one of the comic book characters attacked by Wertham during the moral panic over comics in the 50s.

>>149636010
>Cobweb Hotel
I fucking love this one.

>>149636380
They lost all of his works in the "life + 70" countries.

>>149636428
Don't be deceived, anon, good stuff has and will be made. We are just in the "kid thing now horror" phase for some reason.
I blame FNAF

>>149636487
I think it is because of horror is borderline parody, and easier to have good returns for cheap.

>>149636425
>not even disney wants to deal with them.
Apparently that's the reason they took Tarzans Treehouse out of Disneyland and made it Swiss Family Robinsons treehouse again.

>>149636509
Yes, they screwed those John Carter comics in court.

>>149636524
Yes and no. Dynamite Press had to change the name of their mars comics to avoid the 'John carter of mars' copyright, but they still publish them.

>>149636391
I thought Gone With The Wind was already public domain?

>>149636608
>I thought Gone With The Wind was already public domain?
It was published in 1936 and the author's estate is semi-protective of it

>>149636608
Not in the US, but the novel is already in Europe.

>>149636657
It is surprising how much of this author entered the public domain

>>149636702
>animated fan fiction for free meaning no selling it for money as such they can't be sued.
That's not how it works. They can still be sued.

>>149636702
Ozzie was a Christian. Or did the massive golden cross he always wore not tip you off?

>>149636796
They can take it down if they want, but they mostly let it slide.

In Japan, the owners of Uma Musume always take down the pornographic fanarts.

>>149636796
That's because either A) it wasn't on Hasbro’s radar, or B) they knew and just didn’t care. Take AM2R, for example, a free fan-made remake of Metroid II. Even though it wasn’t making any money, Nintendo still took it down because it violated their copyright. Copyright infringement isn’t just about profiting off someone else's work. It’s about using copyrighted material without the explicit permission of the original owner, regardless of whether money is involved. Another example, Disney once sued a daycare simply for having an unauthorized mural of Mickey Mouse and friends on the wall.

>>149636156
>>149635084
>Stardust stories followed a tried-and-true formula. The Super Wizard would use his omniscient powers to eavesdrop on criminals plotting a crime. The main villain would describe his grandiose plan (e.g. to commit genocide, lay waste to a city, destroy democracy, etc.). Stardust would pontificate on how evil the villain's plans were but did nothing to prevent them. The villain would then put his plan into action, and many people were either killed or forced to flee. When Stardust arrived on the scene, he would verbally berate the villains and then set into motion a series of increasingly bizarre and violent acts of revenge against the evildoers, often turning their own schemes against them. When the dust cleared, the citizenry would often bemoan the fact that they were unable to thank their hero who had already flown back to his secret headquarters in the stars.
What the fuck

>>149636156
>what his actual powers are
Yes

>>149636156
Reality warping through do anything beams, think of a more deranged Specter

>>149636300
Clever

>>149635873
The Hobbit and hobbits in general are somewhere in the middle there

>>149637091
The Tolkien estate still owns a trademark on the name Hobbit. I wouldn't risk it. There's a reason D&D calls their hobbits 'halflings'

My boy Daredevil needs to make a comeback.

>>149637117
>There's a reason D&D calls their hobbits 'halflings'
Yeah, apparently early EARLY on D&D called them hobbits, but nowadays they went a long length to differentiate them. Thought it was only until the original book hit the public domain mark, though.

>>149637091
>>149637091
They are alongside Snow White, but already are in "life + 50 years" countries.

>>149636156
His powers are essentially whatever the hell the writers want them to be, so they vary pretty wildly in both what he can actually do and how powerful he actually is.

At his weakest he's pretty much a less powerful Superman but with no specific weakness - at his strongest he's pretty much unbeatable outside of ridiculous toon force shit.

>>149637160
So do my jungle girls.
>>149636440
>>149636261

>>149635873
Bro. Snow white was public domain when the Snow white movie was made.
Fucking retarded.

>>149635873
Every single one of these will get a horror movie

>>149637160
someone just needs to figure a good replacement name
and then also openly go "also anyone else can use this name"

>>149638481
I think it refers to the Disney movie and anything that originated in it.

>>149636010
marmaduke horror movie would 100% be inspired by the ancient comics

>>149636940
And Jerry Garcia sued Ben & Jerry’s over their “Cherry Garcia”.
He didn’t want to, but the lawyers said he needed to protect his name. A settlement was quickly reached and everyone was happy.

>>149638567
>You were a dog once! A dog!

>>149636156
Science indistinguishable from magic.

Atari Force, I think? I saw the series in IA long ago and it didn't look like an unauthorized upload.

>>149638601
Takes me back.

>>149638471
Any recommendations on the best Jungle comics?

>>149635781
Tintin is public domain?

>>149639487
In the United States.

>>149639487
Only his early newspaper strips and Tintin in the land of the Soviets I think.

>>149636156
He has all the powers. Also he's a scientist and a wizard

>>149636290
I think the problem with Tarzan is that the eugenics angle present in the original Burroughs books are tasty bait for outrage journalists. With that said, why not redevelop George of the Jungle as an action comedy IP?

>>149636290
It's insane Tarzan visited the Hollow Earth and became immortal. And it's all in the original novels, not even a Superman situation.
He could have a crossover with the Monsterverse.

>>149639500
>>149639517
Interesting, thanks for the info, anons.

>>149637160
I still say Boy King had potential.

>>149636127
They could if they argue it's too similar to mickey mouse stuff still under copyright.

Look at the doyle estate was about references to/aspects of sherlock holmes depicted in stories that weren't under public domain until the last of the sherlock holmes stories.

>>149638502
>Every single one of these will get a horror movie

But we already have Brightburn

>>149635084
This is one of fhe terrifying superhero I have ever heard.

>>149635873
This actually made me look forward to the 2030s

>>149636119
It's a shell game; anyone creative enough to use the characters well would be able to make their own, thus it's not really an opportunity for them. The inherited visibility is nice, but that cuts both ways and only the most sensational takes are likely to be able to take advantage of it.

>>149634852 (OP)
Everything, once the AI gets it.

>>149640923
>>149635084
It had a webcomic called "The Power Of Stardust" by CW comics that showed him being the eldritch terror he was meant to be, in a League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen style world

>>149635957
>>149636152
The novelisation of the original draft of the script for the movie is public. The final movie itself and scenes introduced in it aren't yet. That includes the empire state building scene.
A giant gorilla called king kong is okay. Having him climb skyscrapers? Better wait 4 more years.

>>149640274
Yeah, but that goes without saying.

>>149641615
I actually had no idea

>>149635873
God, this is so bullshit. Can't we speed this up a little?

The SHIELD!

>>149642798
Archie hasn't kept track of him?

>>149642841
>https://pdsh.fandom.com/wiki/Shield
He's listed in the public domain wiki, so I assume yes.

>>149638945
Kaanga and Sheenas are probably the best ones.
Rulahs are campy fun in an Adam West Batman sort of way.
Thundaa isn't that well written (and is a bit racist), but it's drawn by Frank Frazetta.
Ki-Gor is a pulp novel not comic character, but a lot of his stuff is a fun read.

>>149642533
Half of this stuff would already be public domain if it wasn't for Sonny Bono and Disney lobbying Congress to extend the deadline.

>>149635732
Only steamboat willy mickey. Disney enforces their trademark if your version of mickey looks anything even slightly like the modern version of the character.

>>149638651
The originals and the expanded series were both produced by by DC. I highly doubt they're abandoned.

>>149639570
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wold_Newton_family

>>149638502
The only ones there who can make for good horror movies are King Kong, Joker, and maaaaaaaaaybe Batman.

>>149643107
Damn, I had never heard of that, that's interesting.

>>149634852 (OP)

>>149643129
just because it wouldn't make for a _good_ horror movie won't stop people

>>149643047
Plane crazy version is too, 2037 isn't that far.

>>149643129
>Joker.
You could just use the man that laughs.

>>149635873
>9 years till superman joins the MCU

>>149643859
It would only be published in the US and Europe (minus Italy and Germany).

>>149634852 (OP)
Any good public domain characters like the Hulk and Thor?

>>149644247
Classical Hercules or Mr. Hyder.

>Thor.
Thor or Captain Marvel

>>149635781
Question, Plasticman and Csptain Marvel?

>>149644293
Lack of renewal.
Charlton heroes are all in the public domain.

>>149643859
It wouldn't be the Superman people want to see. It would be golden age Superman who can't fly, doesn't have heat vision, no bottle city of Kandor, Jimmy Olsen, Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Supergirl etc. Those didn't come until the 50s-60s.

>>149644342
Luckily for them, flight, krypton, his Kryptonian parents, etc... are already in the public domain.

>>149635873
So when does Godzilla go public?

Trick question. Toho and probably the Japanese government would have to collapse before that happens. Then lizard considered a national icon.

>>149644460
Depends on the country, probably 2050s in US.
1997 + 70~50 depending on the country.

>>149644247
Thor is already public domain all mythological and religious figures are.

>>149644247
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, that's the whole thing where the Hulk concept evolved from

>>149635084
"Trust me, pal. You don't want to mess with him."

>>149644546
I'm just gonna say this; if people US copyright law is tyrannical, wait till they see the Japanese one.

>>149636156
>but I need to go back and figure out what his actual powers are

>>149637160
This design is so fucking sick.

>>149638567
I can imagine this
First one, straight up a psychological horror about a evil dog who may be possessed by satan who terrorizes a neighborhood intentionally
Sequel, Beethoven but with a Great Dane and without the dog killing vet

>>149645711
>First one, straight up a psychological horror about a evil dog who may be possessed by satan
Sigh I guess this trope is more over used than I thought

>>149644313
Oh wow

>>149635873
Just 11 more years until I can have Batman rape the joker.

>>149645463
>>149645463
Stardust has the potential to actually be a scary horror movie protagonist. Superman by way of tales from the crypt.

There's not a single good use of public domain anyway so who cares

>>149635084
>written+drawn by an abusive alcoholic that kicked his three year old kid down a staircase, then later stole from the kid trying to support the rest of his family
>froze to death without a penny to his name
Burn in hell, Fletcher Hanks!

>>149646408
Note to self. Make Stardust the bad guy.

>>149636156
I considered making Stardust a playable character for a fighting game I've been working on, but making him able to get hurt just seems wrong.

>>149646408
Apparently he was coddled by his mother.

>Mother, where is my money?
>dear, it was a small price to send the bum away.

>>149646381
Conan has successful comics in Europe, and I have a nice collection of literary classics

>>149645711
Oh, and the sequel would be family oriented and basically be the 2010 film, except without Owen Wilson’s voiceover, high school for dogs or surfing (and hopefully better)

>>149636290
I would introduce him to fantastic world of gay sex

>>149635873
Except you can't use Batman or Bugs Bunny in any sort of marketing because WB still owns the trademarks on them. So no cover with them on it, can't have Batman or Bugs Bunny in the title, you probably can't even say they're in the comic.

>>149649024
>I hate all these corporations
what have you done for society? they’re actually contributing to the wealth and betterment of your people. self reflect

>>149648989
You can say that they are in the comic.

>>149649061
>they’re actually contributing to the wealth and betterment of your people
This argument didn't age well in the last couple decades huh

>>149635084
Stardust, I kneel.

>>149646580
make him as an omniscient viewer that does the special final attack sometimes or just when you activate it

>>149636290
homo

>megacorps whine about how important having Copyright last 6 bazillion years is and how they have to be able to sue people for fanart
>meanwhile, Mickey Mouse becomes public domain
>nothing about our world or media landscape changes, nobody is using Mickey in projects any more then before

How do they defend/rationalize this

>>149649458
It is more to keep others from affecting their passive income, movies in syndication and merchandise.

>>149649500
Which they still retain even as stuff becomes PD due to more recent works not being PD and those being what are mostly still in stores or on air anyways

>>149649547
Yes, but they don't receive all the money, which is very important to them.

Like Romero living dead, it made mad money, but the executives hate that they don't have a monopoly over zombies

>>149649458
>>149649500
The whole thing as about giant corporations wanting copyright to last for as long as possible is a bit complicated but the passive income is a good starting point to explain it. You obviously don't spend that much money to keep an old movie on a streaming service.

But we do get to the elephant in the room, which is that the vast majority of what they produce is largely useless to them in the long run. Most movies, TV shows, books, etc are not constantly in publication or get derivatives for 95 years, I'm pretty most of them are pretty much forgotten within the the first 30 years, which means it's silly for copyright to apply 95 years after publication in most cases. Of course, giant corporations do effectively throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks and once in awhile you get something like Batman, which really does turn a profit 80+ years later. So it's effectively about protecting what little works out like that.

Of course, I doubt DC will stop publishing Batman just because the character becomes public domain, the book simply sells way too well and the public domain obviously don't prevent you from just continuing. But, it would mean that DC's Batman will no longer be the only Batman, meaning they can't... Well... Expect the audience to stick to their version no matter what like they have before...

>>149641304
>name Silver Streak
>all color red and not a single silver color
Cool cast of characters we got here, but never get why this?

>>149636261
>Nobody really wants to do anything with old school jungle heroes.
Do people nowadays still want more of those genre in this current day?

>>149635084
>casually approach child

>>149636119
I think it's partly that and the creative people that do have ideas HAVE already drawn what they wanted out of these characters as fanart anyways.

>>149634852 (OP)
You know, get rid of IP law and everything can be public domain.

>>149636010
Are the Harvey Girls really public domain?

>>149639540
>With that said, why not redevelop George of the Jungle as an action comedy IP?
That would be a cool idea, better than the beaver show anyways. but keep the fetish stuff

>>149649705
Yes, stuff was lost in these 95 years, and big tech had to walk over laws to publish some ebooks.

>>149649282
>make him as an omniscient viewer that does the special final attack sometimes or just when you activate it
They did something similar with Saitama in a One Punch Man fighting game, right?

I'd still like the idea of him being a fully playable character, and for the most part it seems doable as a very tall flying brick that can produce a force field around his body, teleport, and has one or two devices that shoot energy beams so he might as well be a DBZ character. The real problem is that the things he does that actually make him so memorable are rays from his Radiation Belt, are all apparently done by pressing the red buttons on the belt, which isn't good for telegraphing attacks.

>>149634852 (OP)
based mickey

>>149653031
Disney is actually pretty unlikely to do it, since Bob Kane died in 98, meaning they wouldn't have access to a lot of markets.

>>149636010
same why nobody is making movies/series of books of Jame Joyce or Emile Zola. Who the fuck cares ?

>>149636010
Because is easy work with popular characters and not with literal who.

>>149649705
Everybody get DC Comics of Amazon, never of physical stores and modern comics fans are sexy, muscular afro-american people.
I hate the awful design of Webcomic and how text always eat half of the pictures

>>149636156
Do not use Wikipedia as a source, but read the actual comics. A lot of what's on wikipedia is either completely inaccurate or based on things made by other people after it fell into public domain, not based on the original comics.

>>149646408
I can't imagine writing a hero while not sharing a single one of their values

>>149634852 (OP)
peak parody

>>149642798
Honestly, the best Captain America-esque I have ever seen.

Can we have Sherlock Holmes cry now, or is the Doyle estate still trying to hold onto that?

He is free to use.

>>149653563
In all the Stardust comics I’ve seen, the guy is fucking terrifying. There’s no real warmth or goodness to him at all like other heroes, only disproportionate revenge fantasies against people the writer blames for society’s ills. Seems entirely in line with a miserable, angry worldview.

>>149652268
I know Audrey is.

>>149655148
All the books are PD, so yes.

>>149644247
The minotaur, if you want to focus more on the "tragic monster" angle rather than the split personality aspect, though I suppose you could work it in if you lean heavily on Jorge Borges' interpretation.

>>149636391
I find it kind of sad that some characters will enter the public domain without any fanfare. The Sandman will become public domain the same year as Batman, and no one will care.

>>149655259
Im gonna eat healthy and exercise more so im alive by the 2030s and can get Sandy. I loved Mystery Theatre

>>149655192
He's interesting as a cape character because while he's clearly doing good, and stopping bad guys, the way he functions and behaves feel so inhuman, and void of any real emotion, that he might as well be a force of nature, rather than what you'd truly call a "hero".
He's less like some bloke putting his life on the line trying to stop a crook, and more like a lightning bolt smiting a crook right after he exits the scene of the crime.

>>149644313
I imagine you can only use the heroes in their Charlton iterations?

>>149655283
Yeah, no modern DC interpretations.

>>149644293
>>149644313
Also, both Dan Garrett and Ted Kord Blue Beetles are public domain.

>>149650241
I'm reaching here, but maybe lightning?

>>149636010
Not all public domain characters are created equal

Has anyone used Mickey for anything interesting aside from parody's and shit? Can't some studio just use "steam boat willie" mickey for a movie or game or whatever?

>>149655279
Yeah, where most (modern era) heroes stand for justice in one way or another, Stardust seems to stand purely for revenge against wrong doers. Lacking the guiding principles of justice and fairness really puts everyone at the mercy of his own personal value system rather than society’s. If Stardust were to decide he doesn’t like something/someone for whatever reason then they’re fucked, because he doesn’t play by society’s rules and he’s so powerful he doesn’t have to.

>>149635084
Really? Cool I didn't even know that.

>>149635873
>2026
>Betty Boop
My body is ready and waiting

>>149636261
Oh there are a lot of things I want to do with sheena.

>>149655397
Only her dog version
>My body is ready and waiting
Um, Anon?

>>149644247
>Thor
I... What? Please don't tell me you genuinely thought Thor was something made up Lee and Kirby. There are countless pieces of modern fiction based on norse mythology outside of Marvel.

>>149655811
Marvel!Thor is pretty different from the mythological one

>>149655259
Wildcat and Terrific will enter alongside wonder woman

>>149655148
Why would you ever want that?

>>149655190
I've heard of one original rare comic I think, but calling bullshit on that. I wish it were free for some decent media.

>>149655310
Ted is? Well that explains a lot.

>>149636969
The crime lies in the act, not in the thought. Believing otherwise is tyrannical.

>>149655369
who fucking cares about "steam boat willie" or would want to see it used in anything
throwaway gags is all it's good for

>>149635732
95 years isn't long enough for you? Fuck off.

>>149656860
It is stupidity long, but ironically it made Mickey, Superman, the hobbit, Batman, the phantom, etc... fall faster than they otherwise would.

Superman would be under around 150s years under copyright in Europe otherwise.

>>149646580
>I told you to get your gang together!
"I'd love to, but you just crushed my ribcage like a soda can! Do you have any fucking idea how much that hurts? Ow!"

>>149649458
Disney still owns scraps of mickey what with trademarks of his face and name which puts most real competition off of using him. at most you are just gonna get people using mickey for either parody purposes or underground bootlegging, both of which were already happening before mickey went public domain.
besides, if someone want to try and make something out of mickey mouse, then why not change some small aspects of his design and name and make it your own IP you have full control over for 6 bazillion years?
>>149649500
this too, starving out the competition is also a factor. its also why a lot of adaptions try to put their own spin on established IPs, because if that version becomes popular, then the original IP holder HAS to work with the other company to use THEIR version of the IP. if they cant they will just sit on it. if i cant make money from it, then no one can.

>>149652508
if you want i can help you by researching old comics for ideas, i need something to do with my time.

>>149657443
>this too, starving out the competition is also a factor. its also why a lot of adaptions try to put their own spin on established IPs, because if that version becomes popular, then the original IP holder HAS to work with the other company to use THEIR version of the IP. if they cant they will just sit on it. if i cant make money from it, then no one can.
Yes, this happened to the wizard of Oz, Dorothy's ruby shoes and the wicked witch being green

>>149656860
He means that ironically having a work for hire proviso at all makes copyright terms shorter in the US in a way because it starts counting a work's copyright from its publication instead of 70 years after an author's death

>>149655436
>Um, Anon?

>>149657583
I think only Popeye and Wonder Woman benefited; and unintentionally, works published long after the author's death like Conan, or gradually over a long time span.

>>149645556
Toho sued Pixar for using a roar that sounded a bit too similar to the Godzilla roar in Monsters Inc. , and won.

>>149657570
It's why both Oz The Great And Powerful, and Wicked both used Silver Slippers for Dorthy in their version of the story. Despite the entire rest of the universe being a recreation of the original MGM film.

Honestly surprised nobody has done a thing with "Boob McNutt" simply on his name alone.

>>149657654
>It's why both Oz The Great And Powerful, and Wicked both used Silver Slippers for Dorthy in their version of the story. Despite the entire rest of the universe being a recreation of the original MGM film.
For context, the slippers were silver in the original books. IIRC, Disney had to get permission from MGM to make the slippers ruby for Return to Oz.

>>149657616
Mickey also benefited- under EU law Steamboat Willie should still be protected
Basically early works on anything benefit under US law, and it's late works that benefit under EU law. An author's first works under work for hire will be PD faster in the US, but an author's last works will instead be PD faster in the rest of the world

>>149658040
>>149657654
>>149657570
It's worth mentioning that the ruby slippers in the movie weren't for any copyright reason but for the technicolor aspect- the whole point of the movie was to really look really colorful (despite color movies of course having already existed for a few years, they just really really wanted to emphasize that) and red slippers were more eye-catching than silver ones.

As for the green witch it was to differentiate from the Snow White witch, is my understanding- they were originally just kinda making her a sexy witch like the Evil Queen in Disney's Snow White, but green, and then decided to make her uglier but kept the green. Future works have to avoid the specific tone of green, but have managed to get through if using different greens

>>149658109
>Future works have to avoid the specific tone of green, but have managed to get through if using different greens
Probably explains why the witch makeup in Wicked looks pretty terrible.

>>149658076
EU has the law of the short-term, he is in the public domain over there.
Otherwise he, alongside all of Walt's works, would have entered by 2037

>>149635873
>have to wait until 2032 for snow white.
Bros....we have got to make something out of this. Something that will btfo (((disney))) and that stupid goblin looking bitch. It must happen.

>>149657737
>Boob McNutt
I am convinced that someone went back in time and made this. The name is too on the nose.

>>149656672
What makes you say that?

>>149658317
In 7 years, the live-action will be forgotten.

>>149656672
Alex Ross got around the trademark DC still has on the Blue Beetle name by calling him 'Big Blue"

>>149635957
It is. Book version is public domain because it got released before the movie and someone forgot to renew the copyright on it back when that was needed. 1933 Movie is still copyrighted.

>>149657737
American Dad did do an episode where the Smiths had to dress up as public domain characters to do a Space Jam thing. Jeff dressed up as Boob McNutt.

>>149658176
>EU has the law of the short-term,

It depends on which part of the EU IIRC
But yeah this is where the US law over the stuff made before the 1970s is surprisingly beneficial

>>149634852 (OP)
It's not like any studio does anything with them besides make shitty horror movies and games with them.

>>149656841
The sky's the limit dummy. You could make a cool platformer with steamboat Willie or add backstory to it, again you are only limited to your imagination.

>>149639570
>Tarzan vs Godzilla vs King Kong
I need this.

>>149659449
I think there was a Tarzan and Kong crossover comic book once.

>>149640274
It's worth remembering the Doyle estate lost that case. They were laughed out of court

>>149659449
>>149659598
but now it can be animated or even a videogame

>>149659669
The Tarzan rights are a bit of shitshow because of the burroughs estate being controlling tyrants.
They're the reason why even though he's in the public domain, John Carter Of Mars hasn't yet had a video game or animated film.

>>149657737
Speaking of, are Toni Gay and Butch Dykeman in the public domain?

>>149659875
Butch is according to the public domain superhero wiki.

>>149659766
Burroughs died more than 70 years ago, making his works public domain for most of human population

>>149660068
The burroughs estate still enforces the trademark they own on the name because while copyright expires, trademark doesn't. Dynamite press got in trouble and had to both change the names of their Tarzan comics, and pay royalties to the burroughs estate.

>>149658410
The whole focus on the newer Blue Beetle. It may be a stretch, but I'd risk even them killing off Ted (...20?!) years back. Possibly them pushing Question as a legacy, too.

>>149660145
I know, but trademarks are weaker than copyrights.
Now disney is more free to use their Tarzan.

>>149660193
Apparently the reason Tarzans treehouse was removed from Disneyland was because of a dispute between Disney and ERB inc over the Tarzan rights. Disney doesn't wholly own Tarzan, so to use him in their parks they have to pay money. It's also why the spinoff show isn't on Disney+.

>>149660179
There was some sort of issue with getting Blue Beetle on the Justice League cartoon and I think it might've been the additional reason they wanted Jaime created. It might be that during the legal process they discovered Charlton didn't really keep a good record of their copyrights. One guy did notice this when he went to the Library of Congress to research Golden Age copyrights and couldn't find any records of Charlton comics copyrights from the 60s.

I think it might explain why there was such a push to do all-new versions or updates of most Charlton/Quality/Fawcett during this time, like Jaime becoming the new Blue Beetle or Montoya becoming The Question. The only thing that throws this theory off is them killing off characters like Black Condor and Phantom Lady who weren't the public domain versions (Dee Tyler and Ryan Kendell were created under DC so they wouldn't have been affected), but then I remembered that a lot of DC characters from the 80s/90s might have creator deals where it may cost a lot to use them (think of how long it took for them to reprint Suicide Squad). Dee's first appearance was in 1989 and Kendell's first appearance was in 1992

>>149660193
>Now disney is more free to use their Tarzan.

Not quite, they did it under the deal with ERB back then. If they were to use Tarzan without them, they'd have to create an all-new one from scratch that had no connection to the 1999 version

>>149658317
Someone is making a sexy snow white video game.

>>149658520
>7 years
Optimistic. It’s pretty much forgotten already.

>>149635873
Nothing is going to happen but bolier plate horror movies about these characters attacking people in the woods.

>>149661061
This is the kind of shit that limiting copyright terms was supposed to stop...

Someone needs to make a public domain go-kart game.

>>149662002
Remember that one CN old bumper that had Betty Boop racing with all other cartoons? that would cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYXGxtCDggA

>>149635084

They killed the man, not the idea.

>>149655192
>>149655279
>>149655379
While it seems cruel and unusual almost all the bad guys are like mass-murderer terrorists who want to kill a ton of people and destabilize the whole country so it's not like he's giving these punishments to jaywalkers or petty criminals

>>149662172

>>149662107
>Not the twerking Betty Boop
Also, I didn't realize she lived in Zootopia.

>>149661322
Hubba hubba

The very first Looney tune, Bosko. Entered PD this year.

>>149663324
Just watch, Disney's lawyers will try to find a way to make sure NOBODY uses this version of Mickey.

>>149663288
Technically, he has been public domain for decades. Since his first cartoon had no copyright notice.

Felix's bag of tricks is pd btw.

>>149661543
It isn't yet because of the controversies surrounding it

So how do the "trademark will still apply" crowd believe things work? Yes, trademarks will be annoying to get around but they aren't a substitute for copyright. The Burroughs estate are certainly assholes by demanding a cut everytime someone uses the "Tarzan" in the title but their control over Tarzan still isn't that tight, nobody can be prevented from actually using the character or printing the earliest books.

>>149641304
So which one is the Target and which ones are the Targettes? Or do they change it up every time?

>>149664365
Their argument rests on two principles.
1) certain popular designs remain under the control of the owners because they are still used to sell products.
2) litigation from them even for public domain is tough to fight from costs to repeated appeals to time.

When did the concept of Public Domain ever first started?

>>149664998
With the concept of copyright, so 1710. It originally gave someone exclusive rights for a whole 14-21 years.

>>149664998
Once intellectual property was established.

>>149663288
Shame he got banned from being on Tv. I never once thought Bosko was meant to be racist. I just thought he was a cute monkey.

>>149642798
>The SHIELD!
With a title like that, how strong is he?

>>149634852 (OP)
I genuinely think he's pretty cool for a guy with no superpowers.

>>149644617
>>149655811
>>149656527
Here's a fun idea: How about a superhero character that was inspired by Thor, or has Thor as the character's mentor or legacy torch, something like that.

>>149654682
You may not know this, but CAPTAIN AMERICA was a rip-off of the THE SHIELD who was very popular. -I shit you not. The Shield came first, but Cap surpassed him over time.

>>149634852 (OP)
FLASH GORDON & BUCK ROGERS are both now in PD.

>>149666251
Buck Rogers is 15 years from going world wide.
Flash Gordon is in any Life + 69.

>>149666492
NO.

https://www.google.com/search?q=buck+rogers+public+domain+2025&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=f3a7ee0e23e81309&sxsrf=AE3TifMNXrhEwHJiY4rSO0lL0-JpGikICg%3A1754104328773&ei=CIKNaKH8Loy3qtsP34L0-Qs&oq=Buck+Rogers+pu&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIg5CdWNrIFJvZ2VycyBwdSoCCAEyCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yCBAAGIAEGKIEMgUQABjvBTIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIESJA2UBxYpx9wAXgBkAEAmAG5AaAB_gKqAQMxLjK4AQHIAQD4AQGYAgSgAp0DwgIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR8ICDRAAGIAEGLADGEMYigXCAg0QLhiABBiwAxhDGIoFwgIOEAAYsAMY5AIY1gTYAQHCAhMQLhiABBiwAxhDGMgDGIoF2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYQxiKBcICEBAuGIAEGLEDGEMY1AIYigXCAgoQLhiABBhDGIoFwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYkQIYigXCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIFEC4YgATCAhoQLhiABBiRAhiKBRiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAZgDAIgGAZAGEroGBggBEAEYCZIHAzIuMqAH9CayBwMxLjK4B5MDwgcFMi0yLjLIBxs&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

>>149636261
>>149650344
The problem isn't lack of demand. There are still jungle adventure movies being released even now to fine reception. The problem is that these old titles mostly featured scantily dressed white girls either being worshiped by brown tribes or kicking the asses of brown tribes. Also retard CEOs think that no one wants the lighthearted adventure of people exploring jungle ruins, beating up cannibals and wrestling killer apes.

>>149666539
His creator died in 1940, by 2041 Buck Rogers will be in every single country I.e. worldwide.
If he isn't already.

>>149641304
>OK, here's my new character: Silver Streak!
>Uhhh... you sure about that "SS", buddy?
>Yikes! You're right... let me put "USA" on there too, so people don't get confused whether he's with the Schutz Staffel.

>>149657737
Goddamn those women are thicc.

>>149661322
Who?

>>149657615
>By god, you're right! Thank you for inspiring me to join the conservative party to make sure people like you don't change this wonderful world I love!
Seriously, WTF were they trying to tell the viewer here?

>>149658317
You don't need IP rights for criticism or parody, retard. If you want to make a movie or cartoon that's just shitting on the new version, you can (but who cares, it was a massive flop and Ziegler was booted out of Hollywood).

>>149636391
is there something unique to shrek, spongebob, and goku?

or is it just based on number of years?

>>149666946
Their creators died

>>149636428
>no one has ever done anything good with Dracula, or King Arthur, or Cthulhu, or Frankenstein, or Robin Hood, or...

Give it time. People need time to chew on it. All you're getting now is the stuff that can be churned out without any thinking or polish to slow it down.

>>149662002
It genuinely is something that should happen since each year you'd get to just make a big part out of "here's the new characters"

>>149665051
His shorts are often great, but his design IS pretty clearly made to be racist

>>149646339
Mmm, if you want that, just use Golden Bat.
He's just as powerful, but he's got the backstory and aesthetic for horror.

The fact he's a hero is just a matter of personal choice, by all rights, he's basically just a gold plated, cape-wearing version of Howard's SkullFace/Thulsa Doom (book one, not movie one that's Thoth-Amon with the wrong name).

>>149667111
Black people caricatures look like monkeys, not the other way around. There's nothing racist about a monkey-looking monkey.

>>149646408
you know, i always wondered what kind of person would look at early superman and end up writing stardust in response.

that really helps complete the picture.

>>149666961
well sure but a lot of creators have died over the years.

>>149667510
Anon, Bosko literally speaks in a black accent in the first short, has a girlfriend that looks like a stereotypical pickaninny doll, and when Bosko's creator left the studio and made Bosko shorts in another studio that went for a more 1940s detailed style, he had him be a little black kid. Bosko was absolutely a blackface portrayal of a black person.

Now, it's clear the staff, as soon as the second short, did their best to remove that aspect and just used him as a neutral character like a Mickey or a Bimbo, but that doesn't change that's what the intent was behind the design to begin. It's why there's the famous anecdote of a janitor pointing out the other studios had "Mickey the mouse, Felix the cat" but Warner only had "Bosko the...?"

tldr- there's plenty evidence that Bosko was intentionally created to be a blackface caricature, but the animation staff tried their best to not use him like that

>>149667111
if you look at a literal monkey and think "that's a black man!" i'm pretty sure you're the racist.

>>149636657
>>149653480
>garfield AND heathcliff are in PD
pic related

>>149667111
>but his design IS pretty clearly made to be racist
I'm not sure I would go that far.
You have to remember that at the time basically all animated characters were some form of animal, and Bosko is basically the first animated human in a cartoonish style.
It's very clear that he's based on the same design principles as his contemporaries, and many of them didn't translate well to a human.

>>149667622
the wuthering heights character, not the cat.
also only the non-striped garfield from Jon.

also the name garfield is still trademarked, so you can't use it in the name. once heathcliff the cat becomes PD you'd have to call the comic like, "two fat cats" or something.

>>149667622
>>149667713
Anons, when Harman and Ising went to MGM and continued making Bosko shorts, he literally looked like this in the new ones. Come on.

>>149667827
What does that have to do with what I said?

>>149667827
and that's clearly not a monkey anymore, in the same way that betty boop is no longer a toy poodle.

>>149635873
>10 more years and I can start selling Batman vs Bugs Bunny comics.
And how much you going to sell it?