Kryptonians - /co/ (#149638868) [Archived: 109 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:02:05 AM No.149638868
Jor El
Jor El
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So what's your favorite explanation for why Krypton blows the fuck up?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:07:47 AM No.149638932
>>149638868 (OP)
DCAU version
Krypton is on the verge of total destabilization but for one reason or another, the ruling class of Krypton refuses to acknowledge the warnings of men like Jor-El and doom their civilization. It's a reminder that no civilization is safe from the foley of those with power unwilling to do the right thing, and a major contributing fact in why Jor-El and Lara want their son to be an example for Earth, so he can help inspire them to not make the same mistakes as Krypton.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:08:59 AM No.149638952
>>149638868 (OP)
What is the original reason
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:12:36 AM No.149638990
>>149638932

Also the ruling class listened to an AI instead of an actual scientist.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:13:55 AM No.149639001
>>149638952
I think it exploded because they mined too much.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:14:58 AM No.149639011
>>149638990
That's a very good narrative flourish. The DCAU brainiac was very strong interpretation of the character.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:15:31 AM No.149639017
>>149638932

This. This is even more appropriate now than when it originally was invented.
>Krypton is on the verge of a total catastrophe that has concrete, objective proof
>It would be very easy to prevent, but prevailing line of thinking for the past century has been that there is no problem
>discussing the problem or its solutions is forbidden because it's rude to bring up problems after everyone with power has already said that there is no problem
>taking any action is outlawed, and soon even admitting a problem exists is outlawed even when everyone can see it plain as day
>Krypton dies because their whole society has become incapable of facing reality or changing its dogma
>Jor-El is a unabomber-tier total social outcast who has to hide his plan to save his son from everyone
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:16:59 AM No.149639034
>>149639001
Ahhhh
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:17:46 AM No.149639042
>>149638868 (OP)
Sam and Max did it.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:25:36 AM No.149639137
>>149639042
Who
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:25:51 AM No.149639139
>>149638932
Don't forget that in the DCAU, Jor-El's plan to save the population was to move the planet's entire population into the Phantom Zone temporarily, then send a scout ahead in his rocket with a Phantom Zone projector to the new world they would find.

I remember in STAS' first episode you hear the Science Council gasp and bicker loudly at this, the idea that they'd have to be "cooped up" with all their criminals. Not only did they find the idea that Krypton could be destroyed distasteful, they found Jor-El's proposed solution distasteful. That, combined with Brainiac lying to them, is what really turned them all against him.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:28:41 AM No.149639169
max1
max1
md5: edc644abac3b6d4742bb9db00ab3cd36๐Ÿ”
>>149639137
Oh you sweet summer child.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:49:07 AM No.149639405
alien_invasion_600
alien_invasion_600
md5: db17210afb4db124d63270d11599a5ff๐Ÿ”
>>149638868 (OP)
I said this in the "make your own Superman iteration" thread but I personally like the idea of Krypton being destroyed in a great war

City-states and factions divided over religion or politics end up in deadly conflict and it's so devastating that by the end the planet is uninhabitable

It would create even more of an impetus for Clark to be a hero so he can prevent Earth from befalling a similar fate.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:08:08 AM No.149639575
>>149638868 (OP)
Who cares
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:11:17 AM No.149639607
>>149639405
When MAWS first came out I was really hoping it would be revealed that a secessionist group called the Republic of Daxam (including the cities of Candor and Argo) had staged the explosion intentionally and poisoned their sun in order to become the last Kryptonians
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:05:20 AM No.149640569
>>149638932
exactly, that was awesome
>>149639017
ah yes, the ba sing se technique
>>149639139
makes you wonder how that would have worked.. i still feel bad for the people trapped in there endlessly. 'humane' perpetual immortal imprisonment. yeah real advanced. Just kill them.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:11:33 AM No.149640620
>>149638868 (OP)
> Natural disaster a la that old Superman tv show
> Braniac A.I. origin a la DCAU
> War a la I can't remember
>>149639017
It was so good, I should honestly bump it to the number one spot. It's so true to life, especially with Jor-El having to not only be an outcast but keep his plan a complete secret because even though it would effect no one else the busybody lemmings would see him straying out of line and swarm him to try to stop him.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:14:54 AM No.149640644
>>149640569
I'd like to think the original intention was to let them out eventually. Sort of like multiple life sentences but you're in a cryo-state that prevents you from aging so you can still come out and have a life afterwards when your sentence has been served. Only because Krypton is dead they're trapped in there forever now, which shows the folly of their ways and how they should have taken more responsibility.

Even when Clark has a Phantom Zone projector, you can have it be that their idea was dumb and not only are they 1000 times more savage and hateful after being trapped in there but if he lets them out they get yellow sun powers which makes them far too dangerous to contend with.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:15:56 AM No.149640658
>>149639405
Agreed. It would probably be a bit cringe, but I like the idea of it being sort of like the Peace On Earth Merry Melodies short.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:17:01 AM No.149640668
>>149638952
They wanted to start a de-centralized bank.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:53:55 AM No.149640916
>>149640644
So you think the ones banished there permanently, it was a soft 'permanently' ? and when people were released after ages and ages, they were kinda told to keep it quiet, so that others who were threatened with permanent banishment believed they really would be? because I could see that. and the guy returning, yknow, new identity, it's been decades, that's easy enough.
Also yeah totally, I don't blame Cal one bit for not letting them out after that just because it's inhumane, but.. WOOF what an unfortunate thing to inherit. I could see him finding them their own planet, kind of Candor meets Australia.. but also there were fucktons of straight-up mindless monsters in there
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:09:48 AM No.149640992
brainiac
brainiac
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>>149638868 (OP)
Brainiac.

Not him being a kryptonian creation, but just showing up one day and wrecking their shit like it was just another tuesday for him. I like how this carries the implication that he's been spreading out over the universe for a LONG time now. Just imagine the characters eventually finding this out and shitting bricks once they realize that he's not just some guy, but a real cosmic-level apocalyptic event.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:20:33 AM No.149641053
>>149640569
>makes you wonder how that would have worked.
Pretty sure they used that exact strategy when a solar flare was about to hit Earth in JLU. The phantom zone projector was basically hotwired to make the planet intangible for a minute so the solar radiation passed through harmlessly.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:29:12 AM No.149641108
>>149638868 (OP)
has there been a religious tower of babel style adaptation?
i'd like to see kryptonian god punish them for doing too much science and creating doomsday
bonus points if there are way more kryptonians but scattered across the cosmos
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:32:34 AM No.149641124
>>149638868 (OP)
Personal headcanon
>Zod noticed how other aliens were butthurt that Krypton had the best technology
>They didnt have to listen to green lanterns
>New Gods and Apocalypse were their only equal
>So aliens made a plan to destroy krypton
>Jor El noticed this and thought it was a natural disaster but no other scientist could find the thing he did since the aliens did it as a one and done where the planet would be doomed
>Zod came running in blaiming the aliens
>The council thinks thats even more ludacris since those lower lifeforms like the troqs could never hope to harm a kryptonian
>Zod stages a coup
>The council uses Brainiac to quell the riot
>planet starts to go to shit right in that moment
>Jor el saves his son
>Zod saves himself
>Brainiac saves the knowledge before exploring to decide that krypton is over and so should the kryptonians
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:31:56 PM No.149641641
>>149641108
its time to grow up anon
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:37:37 PM No.149641663
>>149638952
Space Tarrifs
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:39:38 PM No.149641670
>>149639011
He was soulless and focused without being boring.
It's a hard to pull off.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:40:44 PM No.149641678
>>149638952
Despair telling Rao "wouldnt it be rad if Krypton dies leaving only a singe soul to mourn it?" during Dream's wake
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:41:34 PM No.149641689
gta91zhle72c1
gta91zhle72c1
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>>149638868 (OP)
Out of all the reasons, I think Rogol Zaar blowing it up makes the most sense. He is Superman's strongest villain, after all.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:07:37 PM No.149641859
>>149638868 (OP)
Injustice when Brainiac blows it up or something idk I didn't play that dogshit game
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:14:26 PM No.149641910
>>149639011
I really prefer Brainiac being a green Colu but I can't deny DCAU Brainiac was really solid
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:15:24 PM No.149641916
Sandman-Despair-and-Rao-Superman-DC-Comics (1)
Sandman-Despair-and-Rao-Superman-DC-Comics (1)
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>>149638952
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:15:27 PM No.149641917
>>149639405
that thread died too soon, I woke up to read more posts and it was gone already
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:19:29 PM No.149641947
Krypton lore was grafted from different media or even other series. In fact, many of the concepts we take for granted only came about after 40 or even 70 years of the character's existence. Miracleman went into depth about their faux Krypton, and many of these elements seem to have inspired later Superman writers. Kandor is another thing that is generally underdeveloped.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:40:09 PM No.149642089
>>149638868 (OP)
favorite explanation from official media or are headcanons included?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 2:58:59 PM No.149642552
Injustice 2 where Brainiac destroys Krypton and becomes Superman's personal archenemy was cool, if not the only interesting part about it
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:43:22 PM No.149642839
>>149639405
Since I watched Invincible, I've liked this idea of a especially powerful individual from a species like the Kryptonians or Viltrumites intentionally genociding their own species as a way to stop them from causing death and destruction on a massive scale across the galaxy.
I could see a story where the Kryptonian responsible for the destruction of Krypton finds out that there is another Kryptonian still alive in the galaxy, goes to Earth to kill him, gets into a crazy fight with Superman only to notice that while fighting him he intentionally goes out of his way to protect the squishy Humans and doesn't act like the Kryptonians he slaughtered years ago, so he just leaves.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:50:08 PM No.149642896
Because Frieza feared the emergence of the legendary Super Kryptonian
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:55:16 PM No.149642946
Tomar-Re spilling his spagh... I mean anti-planet-explodium
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:56:12 PM No.149642955
>>149642946
>We must find the Kryptonite Emeralds
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:21:57 PM No.149643200
>>149638868 (OP)
The Space Pirate Empire.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:37:34 PM No.149643344
>>149642896
Hue
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:30:14 PM No.149643873
mxd1
mxd1
md5: e10fc3ef2b66395f7ed704f3f5159e00๐Ÿ”
>>149642955
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:57:19 PM No.149644143
>>149642839
>I could see a story where the Kryptonian responsible for the destruction of Krypton finds out that there is another Kryptonian still alive in the galaxy, goes to Earth to kill him

So... Zodd?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:13:02 PM No.149644319
>>149638868 (OP)
Arrogance stemming from their refusal to accept the fact that nobody likes them.
>Tried to conquer other planets by force; backfired when exposure to different suns fucked them up
>GL Guardians make sure that no Kryptonian ever leaves their system again, even killing off Lanterns who try to help, because they fear what the right kind of sun will do to them
>Krypton pretty much says "Fuck you! We don't need other galaxies! Ours is perfect and will last forever!"
>Jor-El is the only one who knows the shit's about to hit the fan and gets Kal out while he still can
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:14:12 PM No.149644337
>>149638868 (OP)
lesbians
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:15:05 PM No.149644347
>>149638868 (OP)
it just did that
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:15:55 PM No.149644361
>>149641678
It wasn't during the Wake, it was before - even before Earth became inhabited
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:22:44 PM No.149644458
>>149638868 (OP)
I forget exactly what is causing it's destruction but in post crisis lore I really like the idea of parts of the planet becoming radioactive and killing some Kryptonians before the actual explosion. Makes it feel like an actual doomsday scenario with stuff like that happening. I also enjoy how it's Byrne's autism over explaining kryptonite
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:29:10 PM No.149644545
sup_205_004
sup_205_004
md5: dd4f080aaa70e3a632a3c3fe9c199410๐Ÿ”
>>149643200
Based Otto Binder enjoyer.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:30:30 PM No.149644564
>>149641678
>>149641916
Wouldn't that be in the Post-Crisis-Pre-Flashpoint time?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:30:42 PM No.149644568
>>149638952
In the 40s I think it was just an incredibly old planet that collapsed due to overmining and way too much construction and using up all the natural resources.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:32:45 PM No.149644598
>>149644337
Sapphic love is that powerful? No wonder /co/ incels seethe about it so much
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:33:31 PM No.149644608
>>149639405
Since the late 80s this was the explanation as to why it was a near completely barren empty hellscape and all the people are clones. They had a massive war that annihilated everything until it was just a collection of crystal cities and they started civilization all over again with genetically engineered clones.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:34:53 PM No.149644630
>>149644143
That's not Zod's motivation in the fucking slightest, what are you talking about?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:35:15 PM No.149644633
>>149638868 (OP)
How many theories do we have? I have

1: Some dumbass made Braniac to store valuable, rare data, and he went off the rails and sought to make ALL data rare, so after downloading all Krypton data, he wiped the original. The hard way.

2: mining near the core made shit unstable

3: Freeza no longer needed Kryptonians because his other slave races reverse engineered the scouters and learned to make them much more cheaply.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:40:08 PM No.149644692
>>149644633
4. The Endless are dicks.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:42:06 PM No.149644713
>>149644630
>That's not Zod's motivation in the fucking slightest
Indeed. But since you're changing the reasons for Krypton's destruction, why stop there? And there's not really much point in having Superman fight more than one kryptonian that comes to earth so it being Zod makes the most sense. No sense in creating more clutter of characters. Just consolidate it into Zod.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:42:27 PM No.149644719
>>149638868 (OP)
I prefer it when it's not Krypton that blows up, but it's the red giant sun that blows up.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:49:36 PM No.149644808
>>149644713
Pre-Crisis Superman gains the "no killing" rule by killing another universe's Kryptonians. Having more Kryptonians exist allows the tension of having the "No Kill" rule, and then discover Zod. He'd want to kill Zod, but can't.
Have the earlier Kryptonians say that they were the reason for Krypton's destruction, Superman kills them, imposes the "No Kill" rule due to emotions, Zod appears, Zod is the one that was the real cause of Krypton's destruction.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:21:48 PM No.149645135
>>149644458
Byrne's autism is always interesting except when it's about adult men kissing preteen girls
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:22:49 PM No.149645148
>>149644692
>The Endless
who?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:35:51 PM No.149645304
>>149645135
I am very surprised he hasn't been caught with illegal shit like Gerard Jones was.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:40:12 PM No.149645343
>>149645304
only a matter of time maybe, how can anyone tell? I suppose that makes it a risky gamble if Marvel's really planning on letting him write X-Men again like the rumours say
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:40:57 PM No.149645354
>>149644808
Too much. Just consolidate it to Zod.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:44:45 PM No.149645399
>>149642839
>>149644143
thing is, changing the Kryptonians backstory is a lateral shift, but making this Zod feels too much of a departure since I can't see him actually just leaving like anon suggests. feels too noble of a decision to associate Zod with, unless this is explicitly an Elseworlds where characters are different, which kinda ruins the fun of what anon is thinking up
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:50:03 PM No.149645452
>>149640620
>It's so true to life,
Not really. The missing element that would make it "true to life" would be Krypton ignoring objective evidence of impending catastrophe for the sake of profit and greed.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:55:27 PM No.149645495
>>149645452
this desu. All the 1984 shit that happens on Earth is done to preserve power and profit structures, but Krypton was a singular, global culture that had already achieved utopian ideals. not only is the motive different in real life, but the circumstances aren't even remotely similar.

I never accused superman fans of being smart, tho.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:02:14 PM No.149645562
>>149645452
>>149645495
>samefag trying to look innocent
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:07:03 PM No.149645613
>>149645562
>can't refute point
>"s-samefag!"
sasuga
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:28:51 PM No.149645857
>>149645354
at that point it's Zod only in name, which defeats the whole purpose. it can be a new character and Zod could simply not exist in this anon's setting
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:36:13 PM No.149645931
>>149645148
It was literally posted in this thread, but read comics, if you don't know who the siblings are from Sandman.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:42:24 PM No.149646005
>>149645613
ywnbaw
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:47:20 PM No.149646058
>>149645931
jesus I forgot about the Sandman my mind immediately went to Halo and those fucking shrimps and I had to drop a vague "who" to confirm my suspicions
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:49:19 PM No.149646081
>>149641689
Ah a fellow Rogol Zaar enjoyer. I agree having a random alien who hates Krypton be behind everything really foreshadows lots of Superman's villains, like Mongol, Doomsday, Darkseid etc.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:52:40 PM No.149646119
Onejoke
Onejoke
md5: 37c766feb40fe4609372164f283c73b8๐Ÿ”
>>149646005
Replies: >>149647987 >>149651517
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:56:42 PM No.149646176
>>149645857
>at that point it's Zod only in name
So what? Zod's whole selling point is that he's another kryptonian that still lives that opposes Superman. That's it. Creating another kryptonian to serve that same purpose is entirely pointless.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:56:57 PM No.149646181
>>149638868 (OP)
>blow up because the planet was unstable
10/10 Simple and clean
>Brainiac
5/10 Passable and makes a connection with Superman, but still kinda dumb.
>they threw a phantom zone portal into the plant's core.
6/10 eh, it's basically the same as unstable planet, but now it's their own fault for being dumb asses..
>sun going supernova
8/10 while it is as simple as the planet collapse, it doesn't provide the same level of planet exploding.
>Rogol zaar
Shut the fuck up, we aren't ever going to talk about that.
>war and super weapons
7/10 While believable, it kills the idea of Kyrpton being a near perfect civilization.
>green lantern's fucked up
2/10 Naw man.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:59:16 PM No.149646206
>>149638990
>"Grok, is Krypton going to blow up?"
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:08:39 PM No.149646328
Brainiac
Brainiac
md5: 4040ca8aa26798f888560a4cbf83cdbc๐Ÿ”
Krypton blowing-up really shouldn't be much of an issue if Kryptonians were actually a technologically advanced civilization.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:17:47 PM No.149646429
>>149646176
that's such a vague description that misses key info about Zod though. he doesnt just oppose Superman, he's a Kryptonian military general it gets deeper than that. I can't ever see Zod suddenly thinking "oh this fella is kind to humans, I guess I don't mind that" because he simply doesn't value humans like that. if that core thing was to be changed then why bother calling him Zod at all other than name recognition?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:37:01 PM No.149646714
>>149646181
>>149646328
kryptonian engines cant melt planetary core
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:37:39 PM No.149646722
>>149646328
All the tech in the world can save you from your own bad decisions.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:43:59 PM No.149646800
>>149646722
who knew it was an allegory for Trumpโ€™s America all along ?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:51:49 PM No.149646912
1373145554075
1373145554075
md5: d59e1d8f873ca8a992205270a638936b๐Ÿ”
>>149646722
Even assuming an explanation for Krypton blowing-up where Kryptonians aren't just the victims of forces outside of their control, the vast majority of the population probably had no involvement, if not were totally ignorant of the issue.

And if Kryptonian technology was so advanced, why weren't they off colonizing other planets?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:08:08 PM No.149647178
>>149646912
>And if Kryptonian technology was so advanced, why weren't they off colonizing other planets?

They did but they gave up on having godlike powers and went back to Krypton because ???
Replies: >>149647538 >>149653839
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:38:25 PM No.149647538
>>149647178
Because different colored suns affected them in different ways, and never in good ways. The closest they got to a benefit was when they got superpowers but died from exposure to common lead.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:55:27 PM No.149647750
>>149638868 (OP)
Darkseid lifts up his leg and rips a nasty omega fart that blows the planet up.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:59:42 PM No.149647801
>>149646176
Has Zod ever teamed up with Lex Luthor? Seems like a natural short-lived alliance.
Replies: >>149647902
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:06:39 PM No.149647902
>>149647801
Besides the second Reeve movie?
Replies: >>149650210
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:13:18 PM No.149647987
>>149646119
seething
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:45:25 PM No.149648416
>>149638868 (OP)
Why is Jor El such a chad in MAWS
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:58:51 PM No.149648590
The 'overmining' excuse is stupid when you give it a minute's thought. Unless Krypton was only, at most, a mile wide, the notion that 'mining' could lead to something as catastrophic as an implosion is nonsensical.

My preferred idea is that Kryptonians weren't naturally solar-powered demigods. I think that was due to their advanced science. I imagine instead that there was something akin to the Large Hadron Collider, except it was bored through the planet to take advantage of the extreme pressures, magnetic fluctuations, etc. Whether that's straight through the core or just closely wrapped around it doesn't really matter ultimately. Jor-El predicted that something had gone drastically wrong during one of the experiments, even though Brainiac gaslit the ruling class into thinking everything was fine and Jor-El was a crank. While he did predict it, it only gave him time enough to load up Kal. Cue tectonic instability and the like destroying most of the surface of Krypton, with the final destruction of the 'core machine' turning Krypton into a planet-sized gender reveal party.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:01:17 AM No.149648625
>>149638868 (OP)
Frieza got lost and thought Krypton was Vegeta
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:42:21 AM No.149649906
>>149646181
>>149646081
>Rogol Zaar
>Brainiac
I like the idea of a malicious intelligence being behind the total wipeout of Krypton. It makes it more plausible that so few of them survived.
Replies: >>149651899 >>149653129
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:58:51 AM No.149650097
>>149644568
also it was in the solar system, Its name was a reference to the fact it was directly opposite to earth and does always hidden
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:09:10 AM No.149650210
>>149647902
I don't count that. I mean the GENIUS Lex, not the con man.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:06:43 AM No.149650906
>>149638868 (OP)
Lord Beerus ordering its destruction
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:56:11 AM No.149651493
you can tell most people in this thread are zoomies because they keep referring to Brainiac as a Kryptonian AI and not a green Colu
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:56:34 AM No.149651496
>>149638868 (OP)
Has Brainiac been involved in kryptonโ€™s destruction or did he just see the writing on he wall and stole Kandor ?
Replies: >>149653267
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:58:10 AM No.149651517
>>149646119
based david
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:58:26 AM No.149651521
>>149642896
Kek
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:00:14 AM No.149651544
mick-foley-bang-bang
mick-foley-bang-bang
md5: b2037508a541350ed2e82ecb888bde5a๐Ÿ”
>>149638932
>no civilization is safe from the foley
Replies: >>149653714
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:05:58 AM No.149651617
As with all things, the DCAU iteration is the best. Every aspect of it is perfect, down to Brainiac's involvement and the Phantom Zone being entertained as a solution to total kryptonian death
Replies: >>149651823 >>149652462
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:19:36 AM No.149651823
>>149651617
TKD..
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:25:27 AM No.149651899
>>149649906
>It makes it more plausible that so few of them survived.
I disagree. The idea that they didn't have a space program so there were only 2 survivors and whoever was in the Phantom Zone works.

If they had space travel, it opens the door to some real bullshit since once they found one yellow sun, they would instantly rule the known universe.
Replies: >>149653080 >>149653129
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:09:49 AM No.149652433
vg6rn
vg6rn
md5: c570970a724e9698ab3657d0bdfcbe5f๐Ÿ”
>>149638952
>>149639001

was it Krypto Mining?
Replies: >>149653689
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:12:26 AM No.149652462
>>149651617
Nah, the DCAU isn't that great a lot of the time. It's got a lot of pacing and characterization issues because it's bent around Batman and the writers don't want to go too far into the really weird stuff that makes DC DC
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:44:19 AM No.149652905
>>149640992
If future end did something right was making Brainiac some eldritch horror and all the other brainiac we've seen so far are just the probes or the probes of his probes.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:02:06 AM No.149653080
>>149651899
>The idea that they didn't have a space program
makes no sense when you consider their technological might. I mean you're telling me they discovered easy access to an alternate empty dimension but never once thought to leave their floating rock in the cosmos?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:07:47 AM No.149653129
>>149649906
>that so few of them survived.
>>149651899
>2 survivors and whoever was in the Phantom Zone works.
I hate to disappoint you both, but we've had multiple extinction events on this planet and are probably in one at the moment.
Humans aren't going to get to go into space and colonize other planets - Musk might impregnate enough women that one of his hundreds of great great children might end up in a Mars colony but that's pointless and meaningless since it will probably just mean an early death for that Musk imbecile.
Meanwhile, everyone else, including Bezos, Musk - the poor and rich alike - will all be dead and it won't even be the heat death of the planet from the Sun swallowing the inner planets of our solar system, but something like what killed off every other alpha predator that's been on this planet for the last 4+ billion years.

tl;dr dinos took 50 million years to take over the planet; they rules for tens of millions and even hundreds of millions afterwards - until they all died off.

Humans did it in less than one tenth of one million but it took humanoid creatures millions of years to get to even be a neanderthal and it's going to be within a few hundred years that humans are extinct
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:09:17 AM No.149653145
>>149638868 (OP)
I prefer it when Brainiac had nothing to do with it and the destruction of Krypton was due to overmining or something that was their own fault. I like it when it's a parable of Earth's eventual fate if we don't stop fucking around.
Replies: >>149653357
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:22:13 AM No.149653267
>>149651496
depends on the universe
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:32:59 AM No.149653357
>>149653145
>I like it when it's a parable of Earth's eventual fate if we don't stop fucking around.
Yeah same. That's the idea behind my concept >>149639405
Replies: >>149653584
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:50:42 AM No.149653482
>>149638868 (OP)
>favorite explanation for why Krypton blows the fuck up?
Kryptonian God Rao punish Kryptonian for touching themselves too much
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:00:31 AM No.149653584
>>149653357
Yeah I really liked your concept. Shame that thread died, it was a good one.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:07:56 AM No.149653633
>>149638868 (OP)
>Kryptonians in their space barbarian era get blown out by the Guardians
>Guardians tell Kryptonians to stay in their solar system and change the Kryptonians on Daxam to be weak to Lead just to show what they could do
>Barbarian Empire falls and the Scientists take over. Daxam is cut off
>Few Centuries latter Jor-el starts working for the space defense program with General Zod
>Braniac steals the capital city, Kandor, before Jor-el can finish his super weapon, the Phantom Zone Projector, to stop him
>New Science Council is formed from a bunch corrupt bureaucrats.
>they order the Phantom Zone to be used to get rid of criminals and shut down all space operations after Jax-ur's blunder
>Zod gets tired of their shit and tries to take over with the intent to become space barbarians again. Gets zoned.
>Jor-el finds out the planet is unstable
>Council thinks Jor-el knows their dirty deals with mining companies and that he is trying to take over by making up a disaster.
>Jor-el has no idea
>Black Zero takes on contract to destroy Krypton from the Pirate Empire
>sends the planet's core beyond the point of no return
>Jor-el and his brother Zor-el send their kids into space
>Zor-el uses some repurposed Braniac tech to save Argo
>Daxamites says "lol fuck those nerd, lmao" upon witnessing Krypton's demise.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:10:04 AM No.149653650
The movies were dogshit but I kinda liked the Krypton backstory that Snyder wrote in Man of Steel. the whole Codex thing was a cool way to demonstrate why Superman is kinda special compared to other Kryptonians, especially if you consider it Elseworlds
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:13:10 AM No.149653689
>>149652433
Fucking goddammit CARLOS
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:17:24 AM No.149653714
>>149651544
Lol, that too
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:20:03 AM No.149653734
>>149646328
Don't underestimate hubris.
Replies: >>149653839
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:26:13 AM No.149653778
My favorite is that Krypton had Harry Potter style "muh secret club" wizards. One of them happened to follow Jor-El's career or something and knew how to access the Phantom Zone through magic and used it to survive.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:28:46 AM No.149653804
>>149646328
They were advanced, but also haughty and complacent, they didn't want to leave the planet, and didn't think anything bad was actually going to happen.
And then the planet blew up, they simply weren't ready.
Replies: >>149653839
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:34:00 AM No.149653839
1220741315714
1220741315714
md5: b065558a3c88a67ce8d7a52da39ff82e๐Ÿ”
>>149647178
I'm not even talking about superpowers, I mean basic space crafts.

>>149653734
Quit your faggy moral grandstanding.

>>149653804
That all just sounds like a really lame excuse. People travel and spread out to different locations just because they can. Krypton being their only planet just seems too unlikely.
Replies: >>149653894 >>149654078
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:41:24 AM No.149653894
>>149653839
I mean, there have been many reasons for why space travel is simply banned in Krypton, it's not like they had rockets simply gathering dusts, they straight up weren't allowed to leave the planet for one reason or another.
Hell, in Post-Crisis, when Byrne rebooted Superman, he made it so Kryptonians were actually genetically engineered to not survive outside of Krypton, with baby Kal-El being specifically modified so that he could.
Replies: >>149653911
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:44:19 AM No.149653911
1314821162661
1314821162661
md5: 4641cf24a9e32fc55b83aa833c2755d2๐Ÿ”
>>149653894
>space travel is simply banned in Krypton
If you outlaw leaving Krypton, you have to leave Krypton to pursue the people that left Krypton...
Replies: >>149653926
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:46:36 AM No.149653926
>>149653911
Or... simply make it so there are no rockets that could take anyone off-planet.
They don't care about those that already left, that happened a long time ago, their actual intention was keeping everyone in, which meant dismantling any rockets they had and making sure the Average Joe wouldn't have access to the materials needed to build one, that's why Jor-El had to build a small one for his son in secret.
Replies: >>149653938
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:48:16 AM No.149653938
>>149653926
Once rockets are outlawed only outlaws will have rockets.
Replies: >>149654359
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:09:10 AM No.149654078
>>149653839
>Quit your faggy moral grandstanding
what a funny way to admit you don't understand what the other anon is talking about
Replies: >>149654150
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:19:33 AM No.149654150
>>149654078
It's just virtue-signaling.
Replies: >>149655026
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:57:02 AM No.149654359
>>149653938
That's what the police are for.
But still, it's not like the average Kryptonian would have any reason to leave the planet, or even have a way to do it.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:47:52 AM No.149655026
>>149654150
no it's just a perfectly fine theory for Krypton's destruction while tying it to Earth's future, bridging it via Superman's ambitions for humanity being to prevent the same tragedy that Krypton suffered
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:37:00 PM No.149655186
>>149638932
And Brainiac, which was Never Wrong as far as the Kryptonian government was concerned, was actively lying to them in the interests of becoming the sole repository of Kryptonian knowledge in the universe. It hid the true nature of the oncoming disaster right until the last second.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:30:31 PM No.149655441
>>149638952
The core was made of fucking uranium and ended up spiralling into a supercritical reaction, turning the whole thing into a giant nuke.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:35:30 PM No.149655466
>>149646912
>And if Kryptonian technology was so advanced, why weren't they off colonizing other planets?

they were, the Kryptonians were a multi system Imperial power, their had Crystal Warships and their infantry would carry Solar Grenades for a boost whenever they are cornered. IIRC there was some space 9/11 or something that happened that made the expansionist Military Guild lose influence allowing the isolationist Science guild to usurp power, the empire contracted back to a single planet while they are trying to figure out how not to get another space 9/11 then Krypton blew up
Replies: >>149657650
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:46:53 PM No.149655527
>>149644337
So pink kryptonite?
>>149644598
Fag
Replies: >>149656562
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:48:52 PM No.149655534
>>149638868 (OP)
liberals
Replies: >>149657395
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:39:48 PM No.149655808
>>149638868 (OP)
Timelords fucked em up.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:28:56 PM No.149656193
>>149638868 (OP)
Not canon but a cool theory for me has always been experimentation with Phantom Zone and projectors inadvertently destabilizing the planet, say, maybe huge chunks of the core accidentally got teleported to the zone, something like that and Krypton imploded
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:14:06 PM No.149656562
>>149655527
point proven
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:43:05 PM No.149657395
>>149655534
orange pedophiles
Replies: >>149657438
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:46:41 PM No.149657438
>>149657395
I don't think Starfire is a pedo
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:49:05 PM No.149657462
>>149638868 (OP)
I think the outfits they came up with for Kryptonians in MAWS were cool. I'm a sucker for geometric armor and triangular spikes.
Shame Kara didn't keep her original outfit.
Replies: >>149657700
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:55:59 PM No.149657537
I want to save a Kryptonian from the exploding deathtrap that is Krypton and start a relationship with them.
I want to lift a Kryptonian's legs above their head while I fuck their hole until we're both spent and only have enough energy left to cuddle as we drift off to sleep.
Replies: >>149658927 >>149660472
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:08:37 PM No.149657650
>>149655466
Any time you have an oppressive empire and the ability to travel away from said empire, people will always choose to do so. It's probably the reason actual space travel tech hasn't budged an inch for the past 80 years.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:12:33 PM No.149657700
>>149657462
>I'm a sucker
I bet you are
Replies: >>149662953
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:45:39 PM No.149658927
>>149657537
Write a green of this
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:56:20 PM No.149660472
>>149657537
The Kryptonian would get god-like powers from our sun and find someone better than you.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:39:29 PM No.149661856
bump
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:19:50 AM No.149662411
>>149639405
I was just thinking that the "not literal planetary collapse, just biosphere collapse would be cooler," but then the other part of my brain jumped in like, "It had to be something quick like an explosion or else others would have said 'fuck it' and gotten their own plans together."
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:22:53 AM No.149662455
>>149641124
>ludacris
I think it would be funny if this just became an accepted spelling.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:00:51 AM No.149662953
>>149657700
teehee
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:46:00 AM No.149663686
>>149644719
Based.
I find it more tragic if the reason for Kryptonโ€™s destruction was just poor luck on behalf of the Kryptonians to emerge into a fully sentient race at the end of their starโ€™s lifespan, trapped by a combination of both their planetโ€™s and their central celestial bodyโ€™s immense gravitational pulls.
They were doomed from the start, but only a scant few knew it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:49:08 AM No.149663742
>>149638868 (OP)
race of super smart folks got arrogant and fucked up the planet with several hundred years of reckless endangerments, but since people believing the planet was about to blow was like a cultural meme "doomsday cult", it never got any serious support or evidence, until superman father for reason started to believe in it and did some careful research that led to him finding out that his planet was unstable as fuck and spend the last months of his life building ark for his capable of traveling to earth as a last resort. Any bigger would go against krypton law
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:50:09 AM No.149663764
>>149638932
based.