Superia was right.

>>149659225 (OP)
Assuming nobody was in the R63 thread. Basically this is a Secret Empire what if scenario where Superia’s plan to turn Captain America into a woman goes horribly right and Stephanie ends up being an ultra based feminist leader who causes all of Superia’s femazons to defect to her side.
And then the Avengers use the cosmic cube to get regular Steve back via cosmic cloning.

I have no idea why this is its own thread now.

>>149659225 (OP)
As a one time hater-turned-convert I have to say that AI art has really fucking improved. And not just because of the subject matter.

>>149659225 (OP)
>>149659539
Dangerously based.

>>149659727
It’s captain America. What do you expect

>>149659644
I never hated AI art, only when it clogs up image searches and it's all the exact same thing with just minor differences.

>>149659727
Lady you had me until that last part.

>>149659225 (OP)
Are we making a thread for superheroes turn into sexy female villains? because I'm eager for the return of Reverse DC earth where up is down, male is female, good is evil and vice versa.

>>149660573
Sure why not. Wanna swap Mr Terrific

>>149660659
Would she have a new gimmick or something?

>>149660659
>>149660682
Well, Terrific's gimmick is being the third smartest man, using his multipurpose T-Spheres, and a good dose of classic fighting moves, so whatever is the opposite of that.

>>149660734
The world's third bummest bitch? maybe the third strongest woman?

>>149660573
I'd like to see some more of the villains swapped, any ideas?

>>149660814
Deathtroke becomes a nice lady who adopts lost boys and treats them well and does nothing bad to them.

>>149660573
We could also have villains turn heroes.

>>149660734
>>149660798
His main gimmick is fair play. So a reverse would be someone who always cheats

>>149660974
That feels more fitting.

>>149660985
Would Stephanie actually be this dismissive of Steve? I feel like she’d show more respect

>>149659727
>Make a female super soldier true believer
>Unlike you she actually puts more effort into enslaving men than assembling a harem of nubile young women
Foolish.

>>149661160
Don’t forget
>create perfect 10/10 Amazon lesbian for your cause
>she is completely monogamous, not into you, and encourages the others to only pursue relationships if it’s true love.
Superia can’t stop losing

>>149661160
>Watch as your life's work comes to fruition and you don't even have to do any more work for it
>Still have your harem
Genius.

>>149661029
Probably a rich bitch with using either magic or other people’s tech to make her life easier

>>149659539
More interesting than the actual Secret Empire.
They'd have better reasons for some heroes to defect (at least to start off with).

>>149661492
The interesting thing with Stephanie is that she’s a warped Cap so she actually can create a utopia and does know how to make it work. Only problem is it involves some major changes and a little brainwashing to get everyone on the same page
In that way she’s a little like a femazon Doctor Doom

>>149661131
She'd think of him as an artificial and twisted, corrupted version of herself instead of the other way around. And the way the Cosmic Cube works she'd be right, at least from her perspective.
Say what you will about Stevil but they got the cosmic-horror part of the Kobik story right.

>>149659727
no please dont do that, haha ha

>>149661587
True, though there’s a part of me that wonders if Steve’s heroism would cause her to instead feel bad for this new Cap. Wanting to “save” him

>>149660985
>so, uh would this be masturbation or incest?
>let's find out!

>>149659644
>hater-turned-convert
Weakling.

>>149659727
I read this arc a couple months back and decided to check out what other appearances Superia had had since her debut. She's woefully underutilized considering that she's apparently a self-made superhuman scientist witch who somehow built a massive power base under the nose of the global cape community. And I wish I could go back in time and tell Kurt Busiek to write her in his Avengers run.

>>149659225 (OP)
The AI made this evil feminazi Captain America look like Dr. Blight from Captain Planet if she hated men instead of the environment; and I don't understand why the AI did that.

>tfw i like the idea of evil female versions of characters but not the transformation part of it
Alternate universe and clones are fine by me. I did like how Ultimate Spider-Woman was a female clone of Peter.

>>149662026
I know the outfit's based on canon HydraCap's villain getup in West Coast Avengers.

>>149659644
I'm glad I'll never be such a porn-brained coomer to completely fall in love with AI art

>>149662046
Well assuming the clone idea, how do you feel about feminism Cap
ironically you can’t call her a feminazi because she’s Captain America and thus the furthest from it

>>149659727
>I'm going to turn them into women
Oh Gruenwald, you cad.

>>149662329
I do wonder what her actual non suit costume would look like. Probably a cross between Captain America’s original suit and Wonder Woman’s with a darker color scheme

>>149662340
Remember he’s also responsible for everything that happened in Squadron Supreme

>>149662329
Okay people would pay to see a woman that looks like this in Rivals jumping Like Lebron James.

>>149661775
>GorgonCap's conception of men as brutes beholden to their base instincts who need to be guided by gentle femdom vs. Superia's separatism
Pretty good.

>>149659539
But would she still have the barely suppressed homolust for Iron Man that HydraCap did?

>>149663242
That actually makes me wonder who femCap would recruit

>>149663673
Depends if we try a 1 by 1 replacement of his team or just a blue-sky 'who would make the most sense'
Thundra, for sure

>>149663673
>>149663739
Spider-Woman for her man-controlling pheromone powers.

>>149662573
The last thing Rivals needs is another white blonde woman.

>>149663242
>tfw this isn't the Captain America/Wonder Woman we're going to get

>>149660573
Oh shit, a new Madam Butterfly.

>>149660573
>Are we making a thread for superheroes turn into sexy female villains?
I mean, more hot women in costumes are always cool.
>Reverse DC earth where up is down, male is female, good is evil and vice versa.
What would the Marvel equivalent of that consist of?

>>149659727
I think we need a storytime for this arc. My god the shitposting potential for this page alone.

>>149660947
Sounds good to me.

>>149661564
>femazon Doctor Doom
Sounds unironically hot.

>>149662046
The whole "everything is reversed." is a sick concept that could really be approached in a lot of ways, alternative Earths or clones included.

>>149664352
That and >>149661492 this one, it even has a female Cap

>>149664245
But its ai...

>>149663769
This reminds me. Purple Man is totally dead right. She definitely killed him and Mandrill

I remember we got some nice greentext of the inverse legion of doom last thread.

>>149663777
The post-Empire outfit can be her alt then.

>>149663739
Last thread someone suggested the Punisher could end up recruited and swapped since he basically worships Captain America

>>149665066
That's sounds cool.

>>149661904
Agreed. She has a very simple, classic ideology/motivation thats flexible enough to build stories around and frankly its weird that Marvel hasn't used her as some kind of culture war feminism soapbox character.

If you want to delve into more thread specific stuff, a "Superia genderswaps a bunch of established characters" event basically writes itself. World threat, characters switching sides due to brainwashing, endless variant covers based around the genderswap concept art for different characters, "topical" discussions of feminism or trans issues via some of the transformed heroes having dysphoria because they were rescued before they had their brain fucked with, etc. Do the event, pick a character or two who *doesn't* turn back by the end for a "nothing will ever be the same again!" tagline, etc.
Easiest fucking thing to write in the world.

>>149665275
There could also be an interesting grey area where Superia recognizes that not all men are horribly sexist, but it’s filtered through her misandrist viewpoint.
I find it very interesting that when faced with two genuinely heroic men she chooses to transform then rather than kill them. Almost like she views “the good ones” as needing saving rather than death

>>149664371
I mean even beyond the ai stuff you can imagine a female Steve Rogers

>>149659225 (OP)
Fuck off back to your slop containment thread, AI faggot.

>>149664445
Beggars can't be choosers.

>>149664352
>It's six parts
Aw jeez

>>149666729
This thread is about femdom, not AI

>>149661904
>and tell Kurt Busiek to write her in his Avengers run.
With his work on Astro City I he was the man for the job.

>>149667385
Dropped a word?

>>149666922
>Modam
kek

>>149666953
Who the fuck is Paladin?

>>149667657
Dunno but I wonder if him being sexist was setup for him becoming a woman and they just got cold feet.

>>149667672
That is why you start with a cold open and then go back to the beginning that way you can't get cold feet since you already showed it.

Please tell me this is Rule63/Genderswap threads because i had no fucking idea why the last got nuked

>>149667699
It didn't, it hit bump limit?

>>149667699
No, this is the reversed heros and villians thread.

>>149667835

love that they get to keep their masks on

>>149667877
The we wouldn't recognize them

>>149668138
All manlings look the same.

Fin

>>149668437
Top kek

>>149664465
>Mandrill
That'd be how she gets Spider-Woman on her Avengers

>>149661806
GorgonCap is for Diamondback

>>149660985
>>149668781
>She harvests Steve's jizz for IVF

>>149668356
Huh she’s pretty smart about moving

>>149668342
>Right.
It was definitely just a fluke.

>>149668261
How do you call those weird capes that don't look like capes?

>>149667590
I like the one with the brain in a jar on top of her head.

AI anon, if you are still here, I would ask you to share your superia-cap prompt with us for the sake of preservation.
I'm guessing that it is based on a marvel rivals emma frost lora, but if the rest of the prompt details are given to us than other people can make art for this character in the future.
If not, it basically dies with you and this thread.

>>149664445
In threads where we only speak ideas I don't see the issue of using AI, its not like an artist is gonna show up.

>>149670197
This. As long as no one is charging for it, AI art at this stage is actually a good way to breathe life into a new character idea that a thread comes up with, and makes it more likely that it garners enough attention that other artists will do something with the concept in the future.

>>149667657
>>149667672
Mercenary Villain/Anti-Hero who's a berk but wants to be a hero. Though given he's antagonizing Cap, he might well just be Clint in disguise.

So Superia's plan is dumb in a lot of ways, but even assuming that it HAD worked you still have a huge repopulation problem.

You've sterilized all of the women beyond this island of supers. You have basically obligated every woman there to immediately start having babies, and to keep having babies for as long as they can. Superia herself included, presumably, because any woman who doesn't do that is shrinking the next generation even more.

They will have to outsource their breeding to some degree while they still can, whether than means restoring fertility for those that submit to them or using them as surrogate for your superior genes, etc.
Ironically for this thread's topic, genderswapped men would likely still be fertile. They were not women when the sterility bomb went off, so any man that gets genderswapped after that effect clears would presumably be fertile. Whether that is something Superia exploits or resistance groups use to break her monopoly on the future of humanity is up to you.

>>149670270
So he’s a random mook who exists to be worse than Cap

>>149670197
I'm surprised (and a bit impressed) it managed to get Kala's crown right, but messed up the outfit, since I thought I'd be the opposite. Either way, as long as there's no money passing hands I'd say it's not too big an issue.

>>149670310
she's most likely one of those artificial womb types, and would clone spunknform all thise fertility clinics to make up for the lack of men.
>Ironically for this thread's topic, genderswapped men would likely still be fertile.
I put good money she'd try and frame them getting pregnant as a sort of redemption for there sins or something like that, while all the now sterile woman need to be in charge since all the former men are in "permanent maternity leave".

>>149670928
>she's most likely one of those artificial womb types

Ah, but she can't do that. Controlling the last reproduction-capable women on the planet is her whole scheme for power. The existence of artificial wombs to grow kids in directly threatens her own plans for domination. She can't afford for that tech to exist, because the moment it falls into anyone else's hands her plan crumbles.

>>149670886
How do you even describe what she is wearing? a black Catsuit with a red dress loincloth and a diamond shaped boob window?

>>149670270
>>149670339
As a kid I would think his suit is cooler that cap as an adult I would punch my younger self for thinking that.

>>149667119

>>149671115
It's based on a kryptonian dress from a JLU website, but in not sure if that's really well know enough to work. That said I looked around, and it seems like the dress Kala has does have a name; it's called a "high slit dress", so I'd guess combining that term with the with black catsuit might get you something close.

As for boob window, I'd say don't describe ithe shape since it's shaped like the superman logo (sort of like what Power Girl has), so trying to specify the shape might get you something janky.
>>149671054
>>149670339
>Superia is angered by Paladin's sexism
>after the brainwashing she impregnates her first
>renames her Conception because Superia is still an asshole
>this is what causes GorgonCap to coup her because that shit is both inefficient and fucking weird.

>>149671389
*specifically, it's a "double high slit dress" because "slit dress" will just get you a slit on one side.

>>149670310
>You have basically obligated every woman there to immediately start having babies, and to keep having babies for as long as they can. Superia herself included
Imagine
>cap and paladin fail
>all the women outside the dome are sterilized
>and the women in the dome begin repopulating, starting with them
Naturally Cap gets the most women.

>>149661806
>>149670132
https://litter.catbox.moe/njtsuotu9bdivf5t.png

>>149671480
My god anon, amazing.

>>149662329
>>149664877
Peak character design

>>149671480
They keep fucking even after Superia is stopped

>>149670132
Have some potentially useful alts too I guess
(I'm assuming you know how to pull the metadata off these)
https://litter.catbox.moe/xo2n9q.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/sx7chl.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/vumibv.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/q4ianp.png

>>149671747
She's thinking of Steve

>>149671747
Based.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/vumibv.png
There must have been a superhero with this theme before right?

>>149671772
I think there was an alt universe character name Lady Liberty

>>149671256
Saved

>>149671747
>those earrings
Kino.

>>149672018
neat, riot gear looks better in a curvy chick

>>149668261

>>149672188
>Its not going to lick itself

>>149671747
I actually didn't know you could pull metadata like that before now, but it makes sense.
Tried using a program called metaparser to do it, but when I drag images into it like it says to do nothing happens. Is there a program or method you would recommend?

>>149670310
This Superia would simply divide men into two camps: sperm cows and to-be brood mothers
>>149672299
https://novelai.net/inspect

>>149672329
>This Superia would simply divide men into two camps: sperm cows and to-be brood mothers
Given her misandry, she would likely consider the brood-mother role to be a reward to men who had 'earned it'.

>>149671389
What if the reason that GorgonCap turns on Superia is because Superia's plan necessitates that the remaining fertile women breed to perpetuate mankind, but it becomes clear that Superia herself thinks she is above that duty? She's arrogant enough that she thinks she can demand that everyone immediately get to baby-making, but has no plans to do so herself.
Indeed, how could she? She hates men too much to ever let one sully her with their seed.

So Gorgon Cap turns on her for being a hypocrite and overthrows her. Of course, as a true believer, this does mean that Gorgon Cap needs to get herself knocked up in short order because thats how this plan works and Steve is one to lead by example.

>>149672299
>>149672329
Oh and only the uncompressed ones on catbox still have metadata.
https://files.catbox.moe/q6qnsc.png

>>149659727
So Titania just laughs her ass off in the next panel, right?

>>149659727
Would have been cool if it actually happened and female Cap still whooped her butt. Later on Cap could often mention "I was a woman for a day, you know. I know how it is." to Carol for laughs.

>>149672658
>That was a bad tack, now I've got to finish this whole villain monologue before I soak through.

>>149673043
Rick Jones looking great on the right there.

>>149667744

Songbird!

>>149673043
Only issue is that even as a true believer I don’t think Stephanie would want true sterilization.
Her plan would probably be to use a more temporary method and then use the cure as leverage for social change

>>149673305
Agreed. A true-believer Stephanie would have gone for a different world plan in the first place. Whether that be a temporary sterilization plan as a threat, or just turning all men into women to 'save' them, or some other means.

But if we take the events of the comic as foundation and follow up from them, by the time that Stephanie comes out of the tank as a true believer the sterilization of the outside world has already happened. It was going to happen that same day. She can overthrow Superia and take over the movement, but she can't just snap her fingers and fix what she broke. She can only be a better leader for womankind from that point forward.

>>149673423
True. Though given who she is it could be interesting if she decided to work towards multiple solutions. There are definitely enough scientists in marvel who could undo it, they’d just need to be turned first so that they can be trusted.
And assuming the timeline is moved to be more modern, she’d probably want to grab America Chavez and study her since America is from an all female alien species very close to humanity in structure, and they reproduced just fine

SE Gorgon Cap is a result of Superia meddling with Kobik >>149661492 thoughbeit

>>149673795
Peak performance there.

>>149671480
Dammit Marvel give us what you know we all want to see on the big screen! Also: imagine you're the meat in a sandwich consisting of her and Carol.

>>149674581
>Carol
Wasn't Mr. Venom supposed to be her nemesis?

>>149660814
This would go hard as a Legion of Doom.

>>149660814
Reversed swapped Deathstroke is a Milf bodyguard for hire who has a protective streak when it comes to children.

>>149674633
Thinking about it that is a very thematically fitting rival, I like it.

>>149672658
>GorgonCap will NEVER call you a pathetic manling and stamp on your balls with her heel
Why live

>>149673795
Cute

>>149673795
Gorgon Cap's Strongest Solider.

>>149667463
>draw a super villianess crowd in swimwear
Nice!

>>149667899
Anaconda has a point!

>>149667899
>>149676126
I think DCAU JL cartoon also has a misandrist villain that wanted to get rid of men, and some other vilainess basically called her a femcel (or betrayed her because she likes men)

>>149676447
Sounds like this isn't as uncommon a trope as I thought.

>>149673074
Fuck, that's hot.

>>149672683
A lot of the people who seemed to agree to this are surprising. You've even got some minor X-Men villains.

>>149667835
>>149667877
Well I think a superhero chick being naked except for a mask is an underrated aesthetic.

>>149676447
She betrayed her because she was OK stealing shit but not genociding half the population of earth

>>149667032
Why does Captain America recognize AIM's rule of Boca Caliente instead of liberating the native people from the foreign invaders? Isn't he supposed to love freedom?

Artificial Bump

>>149667264
>Nekra gets listed that early

>>149678514
That's actually a pretty good Madame Butterfly anon.

>>149659225 (OP)
Somehow being the idea of being dommed by Superia doesn't seem so bad...

https://litter.catbox.moe/30pocq79m6konxxw.png
>>149678315
He doesn't go around starting wars and AIM got recognized as a state

>>149667529
>The reason she changed her name from Jackdaw is that she becomes black when knocked out

>>149678681
AI is like a gamblin machine, once in 50 attempts ends up looking perfect.

>>149678903
Neat picture.

>>149679519
It's the sole reason drawing still holds out over AI a lot, since you have more direct control over what is drawn. That said, when money isn't involved, AI is pretty fun.

>>149678903
Shit anon, that picture looks like a legit panel page that's just missing some text boxes.

>>149673043
>>149673074
We need more propaganda posters. It just feels right for the character.
Its also a good way to sneak in some worldbuilding. The repopulation initiative promising citizenship to men implies a lot.

>>149668006
Least convincing crossdressers ever.

>>149681024
That's pretty close to the Mime, good work anon.

>>149668437
Iron Man and Black Widow weren't even here. Was this just planning for this actually being treated like a global threat, or a future story being referenced?

>>149681412
Make them a parody of Starship Troopers slogans
>Pregnancy Guarantees Citizenship!

>>149659225 (OP)
>>149660985
>>149662329
>>149664877
>>149671747
>>149673074

>>149681771
I think it was just referring to the basic lineup

Hopefully this Flag Smasher outfit isn't a one-and-done or this Gorgon Cap design will be outdated real quick

>>149683662

>>149682282
Someone post the Emma Frost panels

>>149684165

Bump because I want to see more

There was also that time Superia singled out a random teenage girl and tried to hypnotically brainwash her into a murderously manhating lesbian. Superia is wacky.

>>149685438
Wait who? Like who was the teenager. I kinda want to know what happened to her afterwards

>>149685438
Superia would genuinely be 10x more dangerous if she wasn't so over the top with her cartoonish levels of misandry that is alienates her allies. The obvious intelligence and resources at her command go to waste because you essentially have to be brainwashed by her to be able to stand her.
I feel like this is why the GorgonCap idea is so appealing: Superia has a solid gimmick, but is unambiguously a terrible leader. She is ripe for being usurped and her tools put to better use.

>>149685508
Free Spirit. Can't recall her actual name. She was Cap's sidekick for like half a minute.

>>149685521
Heck given Superia is a tool herself (with her intelligence) and has access to brainwashing tech, what’s to stop Gorgon Cap from just reprogramming her into a minion and keeping her on board as the R&D girl?

Sex with Gorgoncap