> Yes, we made comicbook movies ashamed of their source material for 20+ years, but thanks for blaming Nolan

>>149662781 (OP)
It wasn't ashamed of the material though, it's basically a Silver Age style Batman movie

>>149662818
I didn't say IT was ashamed. Reread the post.

I don't blame Nolan, or Snyder.

I blame David Goyer. Dude had three bombs for each success yet he's still the goto guy for Warner's comicbook projects, and everything gets the same plodding morose treatment

My current platform has a memory for this

I haven't opened any memories

These movies happened because of the soccer mom backlash to Batman Returns being too dark and sexed up, so the suits said "just make a fucking toy commercial", and then he did, but because he's a gay man he made it a gay toy commercial

These movies made me uncomfortable as a kid, but my cousin loved them, he is gay

Putting Iv in a cell with Freeze at the end was kinda fucked up. Starting to suspect Arkham isn't about rehabilitation.

>>149662781 (OP)
this movie isnt actually like any comic youre just using the word "ashamed" to control the conversation like that in of itself is enough to make it good or suppose its a good adaptation. Its not actually like any silver age stories either, post the one its adapting if its so accurate to that era.

>>149663138
nah poison ivy is sexy as fuck in it youre tweaking.

>>149662818
>It wasn't ashamed of the material
Of course it was. It went full ham.

>>149663505
Never found uma thurman hot

>>149662781 (OP)
This was a faggot trying to make the Adam West series as seen through fag lenses.

>>149662818
It wasn’t even what Schumacher wanted to make. He wanted something darker but had to bow to execs still panicked over the reaction to Batman Returns.

>>149662781 (OP)
Yes I blame Nolan and Singer as well for jumping at the chance, and this is also true >>149663138 there's plenty of blame to go around.

>>149663505
She starts out all right, but by the end she looks like a drag queen

>>149662781 (OP)
There is no version of Freeze better than this, at least.

>>149663505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0txnukioagY She was indeed.

>>149663905
That one line in X-Men doesn't mean it was ashamed of the source material. In fact I'd say plenty of 2000s comic books were more ashamed of old comics in their need for distance to the past. X-Men, Spiderman and FF (I know two were Fox and one were Sony) felt plenty comic booky tonally in their logic. Just unlike the MCU they weren't overpowering with their humour undercutting everything. And Nolan wasn't as bad as Snyder's Nolan parody, that was really bad. And people think Snyder liked the material just because visually he took cues from comics, even though he constantly missed the point (much like his Watchmen adaptation made fundamental changes, not even talking about the squid but characters like Rorschach are just wrong compared to the comic).

>>149662781 (OP)
This movie wasn't really that bad. It was quite funny in a reteded way. Just like with Batman Forever, the basic plot couldn't be done better, the problems were with execution.

>>149663505
I don't find her hot myself, but yeah she was "sexy" in a 90s g rated way. Batman Returns had all kinds of pussy innuendo, Penguin saying he was gonna grope young voters, wanting to "fill her void", etc etc

>>149663905
> Hey Kids , do you like The Matrix?