>>149680577 (OP)NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>149680577 (OP)I don't care. MJ leaving Paul and getting back with Parker was inevitable. It's just not an interesting hook. I unironically have marriage fatigue and this is from someone that LIKE MJ and Parker together.
>>149680577 (OP)It's been fun y'all
>>149680577 (OP)15 years ago when I give a shit about spider-man, i would be happy, but as a senior reader, we know writers and editors will find a new way to make Peter suffer, so this means nothing to me.
>>149680577 (OP)So which one gets Dylan?
>post wall roastie running back to her first boyfriend
Typical women moment.
>>149680577 (OP)Too little too late. Fire Lowe, fire brevoort.
>>149680611I just donโt want 24 issues of them hinting at them getting back together with some will they wonโt they shit. This isnโt the 60s-80s. There is no will they wonโt they, they did. Just have Peter wake up and MJ is next to him and move on to new stories.
>>149680577 (OP)>was still with Paul at all in the first placeYeah no this doesn't count for shit until they retcon them ever being together in the first place they can go fuck themselves
>>149680577 (OP)There's no way this isn't a fakeout.
>>149680577 (OP)Nicke Lowe getting his last licks in.
>>149680712Lowe is such a fucking little schmuck
>>149680712>Peter hates the symbiote AGAINReally?
>>149680708>PaulFAGS are in denial.It's over. Genocide Boy is being sent to the farm upstate.
>>149680712I have a friend who works at a comic shop that Nick Lowe stops by at sometimes. He said Nick once asked him his thoughts on ASM and he told Nick that he and a lot of people werenโt happy with OMD, no happiness for Peter, etc etc.
Nick said that Stand Lee had a formula with the Parker Luck thing and that he believed in following that formula
>>149680611You can't be fatigued from something that hasn't existed for decades.
>>149680712Is Peter not with Shay while also banging Felicia on the side? Would he drop both of them just because MJ came calling? Where the fuck is the quality control in any of this?
>>149680802>Quality control.>For a comic edited by White and Lowe.Lol.
>>149680802>Where the fuck is the quality control in any of this?It died with Shooter.
Why must I read this shit in a Venom title. Whereโs Eddie.
>>149680802Itโs Kelly and Lowe, they have no fundamental understanding of quality
>>149680802Shay is basically an 'open' relationship at this point or something.
>>149680577 (OP)https://youtu.be/cYpz3abAk98
>>149680712Should've just raped him right then and there.
>>149680833In the carnage book, and the new Avengers
>>149680833Heโs in Carnage and soon to be in New Avengers, lol
>>149680887She's gotta ease him into it. Peter's never had a threesome before.
>>149680765Did anyone tell Nick that Parker Luck should be a pendulum, not a guillotine?
Because I'm pretty sure that's why Stan Lee-era ASM did Parker Luck better while Lowe-era ASM is just torture porn with a side order of your brain getting numb because it's. Just. So. BORING.
Lowe is a fracking ghoul.
>>149680577 (OP)She's leaving him for Double Paul
>>149680912>Implying Nick "Let's have Wolverine rape Teen MJ" Lowe knows the difference between the two.
>>149680577 (OP)paul did literally nothing wrong, not his fault peter didnt love mj enough to be with her
>>149680939Paul is a weird character, he is such a plot device that he feels unreal, like a fake persona invented by a villain.
>self inserters celebrating the end of a self insert couple
>>149680974paul is a normal guy trapped inside a capeshit comic
>>149680765Peter literally married MJ while he was still publisher, did he forget this?
>>149680866I doubt MJ would be fine with that. Felicia I understand since it fits her lifestyle. But Peter acting like this despite his current life? Holy shit I don't think any writer or team makes a difference now
>>149680939Literally committed a genocide that wiped out his entire planet, and only cared once he realized there were other Earths that could judge him for it.
And that's BEFORE we get into the textbook abusive relationship he's dragged MJ through with literally every red flag any therapist could ever list off the top of their head.
>>149680993Paul isn't a normal guy, he's one of the most bizarrely toxic partners any superhero character's been given. He's somehow worse than Terry Long, who used to be THE quintessential example of this shit.
Can I get a QRD on how long Nick Lowe has been involved with spider-man, and at what capacity?
>>149680712Does this interaction make any sense?
>>149681050He's been editor since Superior Spider-Man.
>>149681058Since the start of it or since the end of it? Because I liked Superior, and disliked everything that came after aside from Ryan Otley and Nick Spencer
>>149681058>The precise moment "hard times" for Peter shifted into "ceaseless misery porn">Also the precise moment multiverse cancer and Spidersona spam overwhelmed the booksThat's maybe the most damning resume I've ever heard of for a comic editor.
>>149680712i am the only one happy that Peter told her to fuck off instead of happily taking sloppy seconds like a cuck?
>>149680712>>149681057Honestly? This is good. Peter needs some self-respect. I'm glad he didn't open his arms up. She needs to fucking earn his love back
>>149680577 (OP)I'm going to fucking kill myself, now how will I make fun of Spider-Man fans for worshipping cucks? Now I'll just have to make fun of him for being molested and previously cucked and selling his marriage to Satan to screw his great aunt
>>149681112I can't remember if it was at the beginning or towards the end. I only heard about it years after the fact. Sorry anon.
>>149681136You donโt know what a cuck is
>>149680577 (OP)we know they're still together in Asm#8 which is posterior to the Venom run
>>149681035What's the problem with TERRY LONG and his GINGER AFRO?
>>149681176MJ literally cucked Peter, she and Peter were in a relationship and never broke up
the only way to undo that is making Paul's Mj be a clone or some shit like that
>>149680802Shay is a nothingburger of a character. Peters relationship with her is nothing more than to show that Peter has the ability to be with people other than MJ.
>>149680577 (OP)Just in time for Paul to pair with Peter and show that loser MJ what she is missing out on.
>>149681199>PaulFAGS literally are starting to cope in real time.Lmao.
>>149681215>MJ literally cucked Peter,no she didn't
to the best of her knowledge peter was gone and dead for multiple years
try and force your fetish somewhere else cuckboy
>>149680577 (OP)This feels so unearned.
>>149680712Why would Peter want anything to do with her whore 19-inches-deep cheater pussy?
>MJ breaks up with Paul
Took 'em long enough.
>Peter hates the symbiote AGAIN so he shuts the door on MJ
....oh.
>>149680802>Would he drop both of them just because MJ came calling?Yeah, that's kind of how love works
>>149680712Why is Peter in a crutch?
>>149681271ASM, he got his ass kicked by Hellgate. Him being a cripple is part of the current arc
>>149680712peter standing up for himself is somehow a bad thing now?
>>149681262That's not why he turned his back on her. He knew that she's only there because she wants something, namely separation from Venom. She's not ready to talk or make amends
>>149681298only in the marywh0reFags twisted minds
>>149680712>>149681136It is good to see Peter growing a spine, but I donโt trust Marvel, and I am worried he will come groveling back to her like in the Nick Spenser run
Carlos Gomez and Al Ewing are my HEROES. Say something nice about the only two people in our corner
>>149681298Him going back and forth on the symbiote is dumb, especially since it means that he treated Eddie Brock during the Catesโ run better than the love of his life shortly after he personally was bonded to Venom.
>>149681266The shitty and toxic kind. Makes Peter look like a sleezeball who was just waiting for Paul and Mj to break up.
>>149681216And yet he arrives at MJ's place because he thought she wanted to get back together. See the problem with this?
>>149680712Apparently this is actually an imposter or some shit idk
So we're all in agreement; Peter shutting the door on her and not taking her back is the best first step in mending their relationship? So how will MJ prove to Peter she's worth it? What I want to know in this issue is WHY she left Paul. Also I believe the important "step two" to this path of healing is MJ admitting to Peter she fucked up, and the reason why she pushed him away upon her return was the shame that she realized he loves her more than she loves him
>>149681318The problem is why he has an issue with the Symbiote considering they talked things over during venom war. It's confusing
>>149680727>>149681324You do realize Morrigan has been railed by more males than since Spideys been born right.
>>149681138I bet the writer will make him apologize and come groveling back to her in the end
>>149681262>ASM is getting ready to send Peter into space>There's still a Spider-Man on earth who is meanier and wears webshooters on the outsideWatch this be Ben trying to take over Peter's life while he's away, so he's telling MJ to fuck off because she might be someone who can figure out he's not really Peter.
>>149681262>>149681329I doubt it's him hating the symbiote, I think he's just tired of MJ (or others for that matter) coming to him only for help and not to make amends
>>149681498sorry anon that makes too much sense and actually gives a shit about Peter's character.
no chance this is it.
Iโm convinced some of you canโt read. Peter isnโt mad that MJ is Venom, heโs mad that she made it seem like she wanted to talk to get back together not reveal that sheโs Venom. Nothing implied here means that heโs mad at the symbiote.
>>149680712why does he have a crutch?
>>149681503The obvious self-inserters who are whiny and salty at MJ and not the shitty writers making her do out of character things are a different breed entirely, but I think at this point Peter really DOES need a crash-out where he calls out how everyone in his life has been exploiting him for years because he's too selfless to turn them away, and it's sapped so much out of him.
>>149681136Not at all, I love him saying "well, sorry, you treated me like shit. Bye."
I want them back together eventually, but this is way more realistic for two people who have gone through... whatever this is.
>>149681447Easy. 6160 will cease to exist, so we will have Peter, MJ and the kids to 616. In that, Mister Mxyzptlk will unite both realities and the New 52 will now be canon to the past and the true Spider-Man will come back, married and with kids.
>>149681447Not really considering Peter has a girlfriend while also banging Felicia. Peter shouldn't be coming back with the notion of getting back with MJ or being mad that she called him to talk about her situation. Makes him seem like trash. This relationship is fucking bizzare and toxic.
>>149681528Well Peter's walking with a crutch, so at the very least this is happening after the ass beating he's taking in ASM right now, so the swap isn't impossible.
>>149680712>Not the first guy whoโs ghosted me, wonโt be the lastGoodness, the sheer arrogance of this character
>>149681583>Lovebombing>Babytrapping>Gaslighting>Literally relying upon Stockholm SyndromeIt's actually fucking insane what a horrible human being Paul is written as, and half the time it isn't even intentional.
>>149681568>Not really considering Peter has a girlfriend while also banging Felicia.He's not officially with Shay, and he just banged Felicia. Hes not committed.
>being mad that she called him to talk about her situation.It's called having self respect you dumb fuck. Of course he's tired of doing things because people want something from him
>>149680996Not just that. Stan Lee wrote the newspaper Spider-man comics for years too. And eventually he just had the whole OMD thing be all a dream and they were married again.
>>149681583>>149681622I'm calling it; Paul was using the rune/gamble tech to keep MJ with him all this time, earliest being the hell world
>>149680577 (OP)>everyone hates this fucking dogshit character that literally only exists because editorial is banking on ragebait to sell>everyone else just gets fucking burnt out by shitty decision after shitty decision>do this like three years after it would've actually gotten people to care>everyone's just kinda apathetic or happy but pissed it took this long for this dogshit to get hereMarvel editorial needs to be taken out back and shot at this point
>>149681622Genuinly insane that they kept him around for 3 goddamn years. Like why???
>>149681406Oh my goodness, I thought that page was MJ coming to Peterโs place. Oh please donโt let it be the other way around. Cause this is truly cuck behaviour now
>>149680577 (OP)Doesn't matter. You can't uncuck Peter.
>>149681708Probably the same mentality that keeps Alfred dead over at DC
Letโs ponder the future of spider-comics.
We know that by October, ASMโs Ares knock-off villain will be gone, and weโll already be done with Space-Spider-Man (Nicke Loweโs next retarded Rek-Rap shit). In ASM 978, thereโs going to be some goblin slayer shit tracking down Osborn. Letโs say weโll get 2 issues of that dumb shit, and then by ASM 980 we have 20 issues left before 1000. Will Nick Lowe get castrated, and be forced to actually write something fans want to read to build up hype?
>>149681714You faggots don't even know what that term even means anymore. Do you realize how much tail Peter has had over the years other than MJ?
>>149681708Nearly four years, honestly. And maybe more. You think he's going away forever this Wednesday?
>>149681453Bruh, he has the problem with the suit and not the whole MJ leaving him in the cold and being with another guy while he burned so many bridges with everybody around him?
>>149680577 (OP)Marvel
>Your welcome our retarded reader base! We finally solved a problem we caused! Pick up your variant covers for $6.99 plus tariff tax.
>>149681735I'm sadly waiting for the bait and switch. Or they're stalling this until 1000 so they can do this bullshit "See? We planned this!"
>>149681735They don't have anymore BND writers for the next relaunch so they either have to get some no name mid writer who will write whatever editorial writes for them (witch will be lame for the big 1000 issue relaunch) or they'll actually have to swallow there pride and get someone who new to ASM and actually a good writer who likes MJ. Cus lets be real ASM1000 will relaunch with Peter and MJ being back together. Its inevitable.
>>149681138>this is good.this is good?
>Peter needs some self-respect.I dunno man, I feel like admitting he thought MJ was gonna ask to get back together makes it sound that was she was supposed to do and that feels weird.
>>149681453>>149681764HES NOT MAD AT VENOM. He's mad MJ only wanted to talk because she wanted something. He dissed Venom because it is often guilty of that
>>149681766>Your welcome our retarded reader base!en anglais?
>>149680712Peter echoing how everyone feels after having to keep up with this absolute trainwreck for years
just let MJ go fester in a fucking corner somewhere for a while until the faggots in charge are all dead or retired, who cares. I'm tired of this constant back-and-forth shit
>>149681708I think this was literally done to show how much power the editorial has over the fans. It is kind of a power/shame move against the audience. That Breevort guy was on twitter boasting that MJ and Paul were having the most sex out of all Marvel couples. Itโs a humiliation ritual. It is telling the fans who much scum they are and that they will keep reading. Kind of like a meta-cuckoldry.
Itโs kind of like the governmentโs official narrative that Epstein committed suicide. The government wanted you to believe that when Epstein committed suicide the cameras were not working and that there was no guard posted outside his cell. This is the government saying they can say anything and the people can do nothing about it and have to take it.
>>149680577 (OP)3 years too late. At the end all this did was tarnish MJ's character. Well, I guess Spider-man editorial got what they wanted and that was for the fans not wanting MJ and Pete together.
>>149681805I donโt know, man. I kind of have no hope for Peterโs character
>>149680577 (OP)I stopped following Spider-Man regularly when it became clear Spencer's run was getting fucked over by editorial
>>149681890>Well, I guess Spider-man editorial got what they wanted and that was for the fans not wanting MJ and Pete together.In your dreams, Marvel employee
>>149681876>President of the United States admits out loud in front of cameras that the real reason for his falling out with his friend the notorious sex trafficker, was that the notorious sex trafficker "hired" multiple underage girls away from his resort>business continues as usual
>>149681950ngl I've seen the reaction to the news, and a sizable number of people souring on MJ as a character
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>>149681136You'd probably like this panel from the webcomic that Scott Aukerman wrote then
The other thread up has more pages for context
>Peter is walking to HIS apartment
>MJ is just there, saying Aunt May is worried about him.
>Peter says "cool, I'll text her, bye"
>MJ reveals the Venom stuff saying she needs a friend right now
>"Wow, okay have a good one"
>>149681735>Letโs ponder the future of spider-comics.If it's anything like the last 20 years, expect another terrible 20 years of Spider-man comics.
>>149682249Spider-Man adopts a fish and bonds with it! It gets exposed to radiation and goes on a rampage as Spider-Tuna so he has to put his best friend down!
>>149680577 (OP)>and its right after spider-man dayHope.
>>149681324They'll only be tolerated by me once they start making the book fun and MJ as She-Venom.
>>149681447>>149681568Paul just needs to fucking be revealed as evil. That would make it less of a stretch to get back to where the book was with Spencer. I mean they should still be separated for a while until a new writer comes on board with a new editor.
>>149682139Peter seems callous here. Yeah he does deserve to be angry but completely shutting her out by saying, "bitch get over the fake kids and the vague dimension time you had." Like that whole vague thing needs to be explained to give some sympathy to MJ but not in a way that leads to Paul canonically having sex. Paul fucking brainwashed her. That's all you had to say. But y'know Peter would need time to himself anyway. But them pulling this shit where Peter isn't in the right headspace to help her is them emulating that time Peter rebuffed Harry during Gwen's death except Peter should have had growth by then. But no Marvel wants you to remember those stories but not to question why the characters are not acting like they should. This whole thing is a fucking mess and the last 430 issues need to be wiped from the face of the Earth.
>>149680577 (OP)I know we hate Paul but I will look back on his era with nostalgia as that time the entire world came together in an agreement that the hate towards him shall be universal.
Too little too late I couldn't give a fuck about anything to do with modern Spider-Man anymore, call me back when everyone writing at Marvel is fired.
>>149682068>and justice for all!
>>149680611> MJ leaving Paul and getting back with Parker was inevitable.Great, I canโt wait for them to find a new and even more retarded way to keep them apart for the hundredth time.
>>149680630>the antimjfag will never not be mad
>>149682413No. No more big reveals about Paul. Nothing to do with Paul at all. He gets excised from existence with no fanfare or even acknowledgement. He simply never appears again, no one ever mentions him again, and any stories involving him are never referenced again. The next run simply picks up right where Spencer left off, with ZERO acknowledgement of however many fucking years it's been of this fucking garbage.
Or, if we're feeling extra smart today, it starts right at BONG, except Peter changes his mind and Aunt May just fuckin dies instead of getting banished to whatever weird limbo she's in now because no one wants to write her anymore.
After how everyone treated him in the last arc for something that wasn't even that bad but we were lead to believe it was because "muh mystery box" I hope Peter just gets the chance to tell everyone to pound sand while he goes a little more ruthless on some of these villains as payback for jobbing him
OMD, Sin's Past, Paul
Rank them.
>>149680577 (OP)Paul and Peter will get together now over their shared experience of MJ being a bitch
>>149680912I don't think anyone told him that editors shouldn't try to be like Stan Lee with the amount of writing and art mistakes that happen but Lowe manages to do that fine anyway. He even excels at it by skipping the whole recommendations that Stan would do by having funny anecdotes like Iron Man's nose. Instead he just writes unfunny captions like in that Godzilla book or not even catch what color is supposed to go where, how words are spelled, and how to actually make book sound hype.
>>149680935> "Let's have Wolverine rape Teen MJ"You are talking about ultimate right? That time Logan and Peter swapped minds or some shit. What the fuck where they thinking?
>>149681583Kek, this is 100% the face Carlos made while reading the script and he just drawed it
There is no salvaging this anyway, a hard reboot completely removing Paul from existence is all that can repair Spider-Man.
>>149682611Sins Past > Paul > OMD
Paul is longer and does suffer from shit art, boring pacing/plot points, and OOC moments galore but OMD is such a precipitous drop from kino (Back in Black) to abysmal dogshit that you can feel Quesada wringing JMS's neck in a vicegrip. I dunno I guess I could go back and forth because of how much contempt the writing everything to do with Paul has. Yet just the memory of reading OMD and all that it caused is fucking enough to get me angry.
Oh and if the schizo dumps anything...
Gentlemen...
>>149682540NTA but ignoring the problem doesnt fucking fix it
>>149680765Parker luck is Peter getting rained on after saving tge city from the scorpion, losing his thumb drive with his essay 2 days before its due, NOT this fetish tier suffering!
>>149680802Shay is barely even a character, there's been almost no effort in the relationship from her or Peter. It feels like he put more effort into his situationship with Michele Gonzales, Shay is the epitome of placeholder love interests.
>>149681469Give me a canon source for this
>>149682732Yeah, true. Earn it!
You created this whole unnecessary drama, then at least write something good with it. It can be done. Have MJ understand that she abandoned Peter, have Peter understand what has been done to him, let Paul see how selfish he was all throughout this.
EARN IT
>>149680577 (OP)I presume this means sales are going to increase tenfold then? Since Paul has been singlehandedly killing Marvel for three years running according to some people. How many copies of MJ's comic are you gonna buy to support this new direction?
>>149682897people don't even know that it happened. They need to whole marketing shift on peter/mj ship, which won't happen
>>149680577 (OP)This means we're gonna have to deal with the shitty pair of MJ and Peter, great
At least it's not them trying to sneak in Gwen Stacy for the 58193728th time
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>>149682413to be fair she was also being callous
>>149682889Yeah I'm this anon
>>149682413 and yeah I just wrote what would realistically happen if an 80's editor had to fix this mess and couldn't pull an OMD like Quesadilla did. It's either that or just erase 430 of those issues. I don't care if we didn't reach 1000. 337 of those 1000 issues are dog shit not counting Spencer's run. That wouldn't be issue 1000. That shit isn't Amazing Spider-Man.
>>149682652Comics and media in general back then were like Hollywood in the 2010's and Hollywood now. It doesn't change. Out of touch losers/pedophiles/rapists/schizos who just follow what the culture says is hot.
The 00's was just sex, sex, sex. That's why guys like Singer, Weinstein, the pickles guy, and the guy behind Girls Gone Wild were able to get away with all their rapes. Even shit like an underage Kirsten Dunst was on a magazine cover. Marvel and Lowe thought shit like that was cool. Mind you I know on 4chan we like based shit like Kirsten posing on a magazine cover but even back then when I was a kid, I saw regular people a little perturbed by how much sex/sex appeal there was. Anons still wanted quality to their comics and sex was still a turning point for guys who just wanted good writing.
It was better then in that sense as at least we got sexy shit but Hollywood and creative types are degenerates mostly.
The 10's went the other way as that changed in the middle of that decade and now we have a very haphazard drip feed of sexy shit with Rivals but really tame, lame shit from the comics. Sidebar aside, we still get dumbass degenerates like the people who wrote WW84 and that whole body hijacking thing or Slott. Point is the usual gang of degenerates have been there at places where the media you like is made.
>>149683099Ok yeah that's the writer just being lazy and farming easy conflict melodrama that isn't interesting at all. MJ and Peter would never bring up those points like that even within the OMD retcon world they are in.
>>149680577 (OP)This would have never happened had he just raped the sassy child
>>149683226One silver lining in all this Paul fiasco has been the Paul should rape Dylan memes
>>149680577 (OP)>that light on the backso dramatic
genuinely who the fuck is still reading Spider-man in 2025
>>149680712how the hell is that ghosting? I thought this writters knew about relationships
>>149683300He's in his 50s, cut him some slack.
>>149680712Should've been Carol
>>149683300Lol, I was so done with the worthless story that I didnโt even realize that ghosting didnโt meant that
>>149683375It means when you go into a building intangibly to sabotage and leak their company secrets, right?
>>149680712Anyone celebrating this moment is gonna be disappointed. That's not Peter, it's most likely Ben and he's almost definitely talking to Janine on the phone
>>149683371Wrong spider standing up for that.
>>149683299redditors. there's too many of them on /co/ and /tv/.
>>149680577 (OP)They should've gotten married and had actual kids, that'd be an actual interesting story. But instead nothing ever happens, thanks Lowe.
>>149683491Atleast, she would be out of Spider-Manโs life for good
>>149683300Given the whole impostor who may or may not be Ben thing coming up, there's a decent chance that thought box isn't from MJ but from Shay
>>149681138>>149680712based,mj deserved this.
>>149680577 (OP)Now Paul is free to fuck Felicia and complete the cuckening.
>>149680712>MJ manages to break up with Paul and shit on Peter in the same issueJust move on guys, MJ is the problem.
>>149683584that would not surprise me in the slightest if marvel chose to do that, the only reason they carry this shit on is because people are talking about how retarded it is but hey, bad publicity is still publicity as (((they))) say.
>>149680712Spider-Simp would never talk to her like that but this is post-OMD MJ who gets fooled by the likes of Otto, now she'll keep hating Peter for another 100 issues because of Ben
Would like to remind everyone to not engage with schizo posts. Also I heard some noises related to a Polish anon polishing up on their ability to polish gay men's knobs except with the way they were describing it, it didn't sound like older men. Sounded disgusting and illegal. I also heard a guy with a lisp making fun of the polish voice as the schizo couldn't even read without sounding out each word. That was the silver lining.
Jannies, go make some hot pockets for me.
>>1496828970 Iโm not supporting MJ Venom.
>>149680712This is only based if it is actually Peter
>>1496828970, Fuck All-Shit Venom. Bring back Eddie.
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>>149683756This but Flash
>>149683756This but Carol
>>149683756This, but Tel-Kar
The commonality is that Gargon was a mistake Venom.
>>149684132>>149683803 will always be the definining image of GarganVenom to me
>Oh, that's what a real Venom looks like
>>149681318>Growing a spineHes just sad she didn't come to be with him again and he cant slurp up the other guys cum.
Seriously the day Peter goes back to her will make him so pathetic
Dylanbros, how is our boy going to learn respect now...
>>149680577 (OP)HAHAHA IT'S PAULOVER
IT'S A TOTAL PAULOCAUST
>>149680577 (OP)NO NO NO NO HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO POLAND'S MOST BELOVED SUPERHERO. PAUL WAS SUPPOSED TO BECOME VENOM AND FINALLY RAPE SOME RESPECT INTO DYLAN!
>>149682889This is basically it for me.
Air things out, have them talk about their problems. Stop the toxic relationship bullshit and when they inevitably get back together make it all feel genuine, earnest and most of all, earned.
>>149681057Yes, Peter tried to save MJ when she was trapped in another dimension. She CHEATED ON HIM AND PETER LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG EVEN THOUGH WELLS TRIED TO FRAME IT LIKE HE DID. I think Peter and MJ will end up together since USM will be ending, but it's too soon for them to bounce back. And Peter would look extra weak and pathetic if he took her in.
>>149681425No, it's the real Peter since he got fucked up by Hellgate which is why he has the crutches. He's going to train, get stronger, get a new suit with symbiote-esque powers, and head to space for a runback with Hellgate. MJ would only hold him back. Fake Peter/Ben(?) is the Earth one with the impact webshooters.
>>149682343If Marvel were smart, they'd have brought Peter and MJ together and included Richard and Mayday as the true successors to Peter's legacy. Mayday as Spider-Girl and Richard as Venom. DC fucked up by aging Jon too soon when he loved as a kid, so Mayday and Richard could succeed where Jon failed.
>>149681262Peter would have taken in Venom if it was hostless. With how stoic Venom seems to be in that page, it probably realizes that MJ fucked up, Peter's right and doesn't want to challenge him. It'll be funny if Venom's the one who ends up fixing Peter's personal life given that he and Eddie tried to ruin it at one point.
>>149680712this feels like watching the episode of that 70s show where eric grows a spine after donna goes after kelsos older brother and tries to come back to him after he rejects her. hopefully theres noone in petes life like erics parents that practically told him to go back begging to her
>>149681633OMD? Not canon. Stan Lee wills it.
>b-b-but Quesada and Brevoort and Low-NOT. CANON.
>>149680577 (OP)marywhorefagsbros, is Miles next in her whore list ??
>>149680577 (OP)I love how this is framed as a dawning revelation with the sun surging forth to purify Mary Jane of her evils
>>149680611>mjwhore leaving rabbiCool.
>mjwhore getting back with Spider-Man
>>149681324>PicI want to see a comic that starts with this scene
>>149680712, with Morrigan answering the door
Damn, its an end of an era
>>149680577 (OP)From the thumbnail it looked like she started to fuck Wolverine.
>>149680577 (OP)>he doesn't knowPaul is eternal.
>>149681539Peter and Venom should kiss.
MJ is still a whore, through and through.
>>149686845Take your meds, schizo.
>>14968158310 bucks thats traced from Gomez wife when he asks for sex.
I think the Paul/MJ/relationship stuff isn't even the worst thing about current year spider-man so this doesn't really change much. The entire writing and editorial team needs to be completely thrown out and the last 15 years of Spider-man need to be hard retconned. Banish every alternate spider (Gwen, Miles, Silk, Spider-boy, whoever else is running around) to an alternate universe. Have Peter Parker wake up and discover that Aunt May is fuckin dead. He can be married or not I don't care. Just write him IN CHARACTER while using the 60s-90s comics as a guide for that. He's written like a pussy retard with dad jokes these days.
>>149681583That's Paul talking, right?
>>149687008Anyone if peter isn't an eternal loser who acts like a kid how will comic readers relate
>>149682068Absolutely mind broken
>>149680628Paul. Dylan's got to learn somehow.
>>149683595It's actually two different books, ANV and ASM.
>>149683595How is she shitting on Peter
>>149681447Peter and MJ both need tons of fixing. OMD sent both of these characters on incredible downward spirals.
>>149683756Who gives a fuck about Eddie Brock anymore? Flash and MJ have both been more interesting with Venom than that cunt Eddie ever has been.
>>149689523Maybe you could claim Flash depending on what you want out of the relationship or think guns are cool, but MJ barely has done shit as Venom.
>>149689568No shit, it's been only eight issues and Al Ewing is a continuity guy not an action guy.
Who cares, MJ as a character has been ruined. Especially during the height of the Paul shit when she treated Peter like garbage and blamed him for no reason even though everything was literally Paul's fault.
>>149689523MJ is shit and you're shit.
>>149689588I feel like "Super-Villain Team-Up" that just focused on different bad guys doing their thing would have worked out better for his abilities.
>>149680577 (OP)Paul was MJ first big romantic arc after OMD
>>149689823That's not a bad idea.
>>149689734Shut up schizo.
>>149680640>just have Peter wake up and MJ is next to himthere's no getting around the fact that Spider-Man has to fight Mephisto in a line-wide crossover event to get his marriage back, there's too much money to be made
CHASMFAGS LOOK AT THIS CLIP. THE SUIT IS NOW A GAME SKIN TO PETER PARKER WHO HAS MJ AS HIS LOVER. ARE YOU READY TO GO AGAINST A GAME THAT IS BRINGING BACK THE MARVEL SWIMSUIT ISSUE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 30 YEARS? GET READY TO BE MADE FUN OF LIKE STUPID PAULFAGS WHO DO STUPID SHIT RIGHT HERE
>>149691617did they actually add Chasm?
>>149680577 (OP)https://youtu.be/2Icf6j46bbU?si=RNJvStPPBpWq91Cg
>>149691645It's just a Spider-Man skin. There's a Scarlet Spider (Kaine) skin too
>>149691768>Don't they have [HEADCANON]??
>>149691805I still remember the cheers when this happened all across Marvel twitter. It was surreal.
Great.
How long until Peter and MJ get back together? I'd say 2 years later?
>>149691867Never, hopefully Paul and MJ will get back together after this whole Venom business is done with.
>>149691645ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT PETER PARKER IS THE ONE IN CHASM'S SUIT. THE SAME PETER WHO HAS MJ AS HIS LOVER.
>>149691928If Marvel writers want the Polish to come back to Paul in Spider-Man comics... then they're going to have to have Paul rape some kids. I mean, Paul's going to have to rape a LOT of kids for Poland to get excited about Paul again. Until then, I just don't think we're ever going to see Paul again. Not until he rapes, violently, a lot of kids.
>>149692065Polish people just won't get interested in Paul again until he rapes some kids. Tom Brevoort, take note: make Paul molest a bunch of kids.
is there any reason to read spiderman comics aside of ragebaiting
>>149691805...I don't get it. Were the bad guys same-time older versions of the kids?
>>149692660Yes, if it's Ultimate Spider-Man or not mainline at least.
>>149680904Him being in New Avengers is weird
>>149680712What run is this?
>>149691928>PaulFAGS are in full cope mode.He's gone and he's never coming back.
>>149692844next week's Spider-Man
>>149692844The current ASM run this issue is out on Wednesday
>>149692845He's coming back as soon as MJ is free from symbiote brainwashing and is marrying her.
Screencap this
>Paul used his glyph/math tech to "roll" the chain of events that led to Peter and MJ getting whisked away into his doomed timeline by Rabin
>He was so lonely in this hellscape reality that he thought that by tweaking his device he could "win" the life he always wanted
>Rabin, Wayeb, and Peter all leave the doomed timeline, leaving MJ stranded with Paul. Paul continues using his glyph device to orchestrate a fantasy in which she eventually falls for him
>Eventually rolls the fake kids
>Each time he rolls the slot machine, the spell design further degrades. To keep his farce family together he keeps doubling down, but the cost is monster attacks and inevitably Peter breaking through realities to get MJ back
>Continues to double down in denial, loses kids, thinks he can further cheat the system by giving MJ her Jackpot device thinking that she wants to stay with him too.
>Further falls apart, bad rolls result in the Venom situation
>Editorial should reveal all of this in the end effectively showing how one man bun asshole tried to rob someone of their life/happiness but fate had other plans
>>149692925It's over, PaulFAG. He's never coming back.
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>>149692927Instead of huffing copium hoping for magical fixes I'm just going to continue reading fanfics and older comics until good news comes around.
>>149692927this would be very bad
Some additional pages came out.
No one mocks the shocker
>>149693257Letting these crooks getaway
>>149680577 (OP)Legitimately asking do people actually like Paul or is this just the thing of people hating Peter Parker Spider-Man also Senate Paul being jail for destroying his planet Earth?
>>149693278Streets are saying this Ben Reilly: The Superior Peter Parker
>>149693198There is no good fix
>>149681035>And that's BEFORE we get into the textbook abusive relationship he's dragged MJ through with literally every red flag any therapist could ever list off the top of their head.I can think of a few and in a serious relatedship with Peter Parker while he was in the hospital recovering, jump into ways into children who even either of the two and ended up leaving the dimension because of reasons. But what are the other red flags? legitimately asking .
>>149693301no way, there's probably just a Miles and Gwen vs the Shocker splash page omitted from the preview.
>Peter rebounds with Paul
make it happen.
>>149692927Even in Trump's America you can't take agency away from female characters anymore, MJ being essentially raped by Paul would end her as a character.
It's ditto for the symbiote influencing MJ decision making
>>149693278miles morales is a broke bum and he isn't spider-man. he can't even fill for peter when his leg is broken...
>>149680577 (OP)The lens flare makes it funnier
>>149693726they know what they're doing
>>149693726If MCU Spider-Man is going to be directed by Michael Bay then Feige should get Ivo's Hybrid Theory to sing What I've Done instead of Scientology Park.
>>149680712Based fuck MJ sheโs a fucking bitch. Sheโs rejected Peter hundreds of times over the years, letโs see how she likes it.
>>149693468Paul won't be able to have sex until he finally rapes Dylan.
i dont see any reason to hate paul at this point
>>149680577 (OP)I suppose they want fans to be happy about this or something, but it's post OMD marvel, nothing matters anyway. All I feel is endless apathy.
>>149695081I do, fuck Paul. I hope he hangs himself.
>>149680577 (OP)Any conclusion to the Paul problem won't feel complete without reaching through the 4th wall and making fun of whoever at Marvel Editorial thought he was a good idea.
>>149693278Damn, really Pete?
>>149693278Why does Pete have a bum leg? He has a healing factor.
>>149693301>City gets flooded with Spider-Man knockoffs that act like they own the name and shame Peter for being shitty and unworthy, Marvel civilians continue the trend of shitting on him>Peter (or Ben in this case, whatever) says 'fuck it, if you insist' and decides to relax and stop answering every single call to heroism at the expense of his life and peace. >It's not like New York is lacking in heroes anyway, or even in Spider themed heroes!>[5 seconds later]>The ENTIRE world immediately starts shitting on Peter ten times harder for being a coward and a quitter, how dare he, and telling him how he must put the suit on and start destroying his own life again right he fuck now>Peter/Ben has to re-learn about responsibility (or real Peter comes back, whatever) and we get back to normal Spider-Man, with everyone shaming him and shitting on him and telling him to go away for being annoyingThis is just gonna be Superior Spider-Man all over again. Likely less retarded without stupid pills, but just as infuriating. Flash probably dies again by the end of it.
>>149695433It still takes time to recover.
>>149695532>we will get pic related again but with even more people
Anybody who doesn't think this isn't leading to MJ and Paul hooking right back up is a moron.
They're just gonna have a lil break and then go through some shit where they learn some lesson about how they need each other and they're stronger together, and then jump back into each other's arms.
>>149680611Yeah, Peter x MJ was my OTP for over 2 decades but I just can't bring myself to give a fuck anymore because the damage to their relationship (and MJ's character) has been done this feels more like a pyrrhic victory than anything because we all know it's either a bait-and-switch now that USM is ending and SM:BND is the MCU's last chance at a hail mary (jane) before Avengers: Doomsday now that F4:FS isn't doing so hot (at least not compared to Superman) but we've been through this rigamarole for decades now they MIGHT briefly get back together but bullshit will happen that will break them up again and even if MJ is gone for good the manchildren stuck in a midlife crisis at Spider Editorial will flip their shit if Peter makes significant romantic progress with any OTHER respective love interest and they will Paul or OMD that shit, too.
>>149696047Are you retarded?
You seem retarded. They've been waiting forever to exile this fuck without too much of a shitshow. Do you think they'd waste this opportunity to finally rip the bandaid off?
>>149696122Ah, my friend, you're forgetting the simple, well known detail that MARVEL HATES ITS AUDIENCE AND WILL ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT WANTS.
>>149696122>They've been waiting forever to exile this fuck without too much of a shitshowProve it.
I've seen nothing but Marvel being invested in this piece of shit character.
You retards see a little bit of fanservice with Paul being shit on in the Venom book, just to set up this break-up, and you think they want to actually get rid of it. Its just your standard "introduce some drama, then resolve it, the couple moves forward stronger than ever - until the next drama" standard writing for characters who are dating.
>>149696116MJ is brown in that movie, it doesn't count
>>149696168Except Paul's not a normal character. He's a boring turd who just sits there in the book and does nothing. He's not likable, he's not interesting, and he's dragging the books down. It's not like they're saying they're getting rid of Peter Parker for good, because that is something they need to consider carefully and don't really have the balls to do. This is like getting rid of Paul and Jilly Stacy.
>who?Exactly.
>>149696199>He's a boring turd who just sits there in the book and does nothing. He's not likable, he's not interesting, and he's dragging the books down.All that applies to current Peter right now.
Guess we're totally gonna see ASM canceled and Peter thrown to limbo next month, right?
>>149696213Peter at least has some legacy and nostalgia behind him, and is good outside of mainline ala Ultimate Peter Parker or him in Sinister Sixteen or Shadow of the Green Goblin. Name me one good Paul story. Name me a single person who considers Paul as "iconic" as a bit character like a total nobody like Ned Leeds or Nick Katzenberg, that isn't some sort of Polish retard?
>>149696199>>149696213>>149696237Why are you fuckes debating Pauls' relevance or lack thereof when the character's entire reason to exist is that he makes the readers upset? He doesn't exist for the purpose of any kind of story. He's a meta-character who exists to make you, the person reading the comic, feel bad.
>>149696148>MARVEL HATES ITS AUDIENCE AND WILL ALWAYS DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT IT WANTSHave fun trying to kill off Marvel Rivals and the fanservices that come with it I guess.
>>149696300And they've sort of realized that he's become a black eye and albatross around their neck, rather than something that they can alpha male their way around and go 'suck it up nerds, Paul is here to stay.'
He's basically Marvel's version Terry Long. Was Terry around for a while? Yes. Did Terry suck? Yes. Did cooler heads prevail and say that 'hey we're actually cutting off our nose to spite our face by pushing this guy so hard.' Yes.
>>149696349>>149696300That's the thing. That's where Paul failed. He was being used too heavily to make fun of them. Nick Lowe's repeated blow ups at NYCC, Tom Brevoort saying he's just going to try to self-censor his Man with a Hat Blog, it all shows that Paul has failed in his purpose. He's not making them feel good, or powerful. He's just opening the door for them to be mocked and made fun of. Of course they hate you. Of course they despise you. But now people are firing back and making them look like deranged assholes. Too many actual normies are complaining about him and belittling them. He has to go. Paul has failed in his only purpose.
>>149696381This. They wanted to feel big by shitting their pants in public for the last three years, and then kept getting pissed off whenever people hounded them over all the shit inside their pants. Literally crying online and going 'why are you TOXIC FANS not able to let this go?' they kept screeching. But even shill websites like CBR couldn't stay on the message. Instead they acted like catty teenage girls and had screaming meltdowns on Xwitter and did genocide apologetics over this shit.
>>149696429They used USM as a sop for the people pissed off at them, it worked to a degree, but they grew genuinely afraid when they new there would be some time between Ultimate ending and it getting relaunched.
>>149696300>He's a meta-character who exists to make you, the person reading the comic, feel bad.he is a temporary love interest for a character in a soap opera, what is wrong with spider-man fans
>>149696466Ask what's wrong with the faggots writing this shit, because they doubled down on a failed character for three years straight, through multiple meltdowns and screaming tantrums. No, not from the fans, the writers! They were the ones who would not stop having meltdowns over him.
>>149696476>3 yearsThis Paul nigger actually lasted longer than Clone Saga.
>>149696476He isn't a failed character, he's a loving and caring boyfriend for MJ and Spider-fags can't accept that because they're worthless self-inserters who think they 'deserve' her
>>149696501Nigga he literally killed her three times in one week, and got away with a genocide. You're just angry that Paul didn't stick with her long enough to finally murder her once and for all.
>>149681548it still doesn't make sense for him to hate the symbiote itself considering they finally made amends recently after years
>>149696547Hell, he even teamed up with them willingly in Venom War. Another reason to suspect it's really Ben Reilly.
>>149696501>Loving and caringEMGAY I KNOW YOUR FACE MELTED OFF, YOU HAD EVERY BONE IN YOUR BODY BROKEN, AND THEN YOU FELT EVERY ATOM EXPLODE IN A TRANSCENDANT AND TRULY HELLISH MOMENT OF AGONY, BUT *I* FEEL BAD AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND *MY FEELINGS.
Paul was basically everything OMDfags accused MJ of being, but in guy form. And I think that's a delicious, delicious irony.
>>149696572This is why you never get into a relationship with Polish "men" like Paul. They're sick, twisted, and weak. Yet they use their weakness as a cudgel against you.
>>149696572>>149696545Paul is irresponsible, and that's why he fails as a character, a person, and a boyfriend.
>>149696545That was the symbiote who disabled Paul's safeguards specifically to entrap MJ into bonding with it.
>>149696645Why didn't Paul check the safeguards after Venom War. He already knew it was disabled. He called out Peter for allowing the Symbiote to disable it. It's because Paul knew what was going on, and secretly wanted her dead.
>Puh-Puh-Peter, MJ could be DEAD if the safeguards are disabled>Shuh-Shuh-Sure dear, you could go out on patrol this morning. There's no need to run a diagnostic on it until you get back, hehehe. Also I love Poland, and I love pedophiles.
>>149696702>>149696645>calls out Peter for doing something risky that could get MJ killed>MJ turns out fine and Paul says "Oh, man, I knew my innate brilliance would see things through.">Paul forgets about running a diagnostic even though his ONLY job when he sits on his faggot ass at home is to make sure MJ doesn't roll three skulls and gets killed by HIS device, while she takes all the risk.>"REEEEE THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR FAULT VENOM, AND YOUR FAULT MJ. HOW COULD YOU SELFISH FUCKS HURT ME LIKE THIIIIIIIS."God, Paul was genuinely loathsome. I'm so glad he's finally shitcanned now.
>>149693301No, not yet. That page about flipping off MJ -and- the symbiote makes no sense even in his schizophrenic status quo, they have no history to speak of. Peter is just licking his wounds in what Marvel calls his civilian life and Ben starts Spider-Manning in the meantime.
>>149696645nigga the Symbiote was ready to die alone in a filthy sewer until an also dying MJ chased them down. And where was Paul during all of this? Useless.
But I guess Paul cultists can't let go of their messiah. But you have to. He really is done. The first nail in his coffin was his fake kids disappearing, and MJ breaking up with him is the final one. He has no reason to be in the book unless he comes back as an antagonist.
>>149696775Isn't Peter supposed to be splitting in two for a cosmic Spider-Man run later this year? It'll probably have something to do with that.
>>149696804Yes, but those leaked pages and this preview are very specifically Peter. Earthbound Spider-Man with external shooters is Ben.
>>149696802Paul, that Polish fuck, was probably rubbing his hands in excitement. Finally, with MJ and Venom both gone... he'd be able to fulfill his grandest ambition: molesting Dylan Brock. Truly, a Machiavellian mastermind.
>>149681798>I feel like admitting he thought MJ was gonna ask to get back together makes it sound that was she was supposed to do and that feels weird.They have known each other for 70 years.
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How long do editors usually last? Nick Lowe's got to be in his twilight years, right?
>>149696827If his meltdowns at various comic-cons are any indication, he probably has a great deal of medical and psychological problems at this point. Hopefully, it results in a diminished life expectancy.
>>149681798>I feel like admitting he thought MJ was gonna ask to get back together makes it sound that was she was supposed to do and that feels weird.They have known each other for 60 years.
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>>149696852If someone I loved ever looked at me with this much disgust, I'd just fucking kill myself lmao.
>>149696872She probably already found out about Paul's scheme to rape Dylan.
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>>149696872she will be back, she always comeback. Now keep slurping my semen from her vagina. She loved the creampie
>>149696852Oh man, true love!
>he built a machine that malfunctioned and tortured her to death three times in a rowOh man, I'm actually with MJ over in
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>>149696896You mean a machine that gave her superpowers that worked perfectly until an alien monster disabled all safety features as part of a plot to mind control her and effectively rape her after tormenting her dreams for years.
>>149696842Death would be a release.
I want him or any of the other pro-OMD people to go full Michael Richards at a con with many journalists present in a way that it couldn't be covered up or swept under the rug.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjUNF_R_PY
>>149696890Sorry anon, your Paul's a bit to off-model. Here's the TRUE AND HONEST Paul, taking about veganism. His sole real character trait aside from the genocide.
I'm afraid Paul will never be that buff again until he finally reclaims his testosterone by raping the shit out of Dylan Brock, my dudes.
>>149696816Flash needs to retrieve this kid and give him back to his father. If the father doesn't accept, Eddie should pass the hot potato that is King in Black to Flash before leaving again.
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>>149696927>off modelcope spider cuck
>>149696918And he just never bothered to do a diagnostic until AFTER it killed her, despite already knowing how dangerous it was?
Paul strikes me as someone who is very irresponsible.
>>149696927>Envrionmentally conscious>Does the cooking and household chores>Is a caring father figure for a troubled teenPaul is great
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>>149696936I like this Paul variant the best. I'm glad at all of Paul's modern depictions RESPECT his iconic manbun though, as a nod to his Polish heritage.
>>149696938>Going to beat Dylan like a rented mule until he got scared that VenoMJ was going to have issue.Paul was THIS close to FINALLY raping some respect into Dylan Brock...
>>149696927Damn. Dylan somehow knew the food was drugged, and that Paul was going to try to rape him right after.
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>Cuck shit
>Rape Shit
>Meta shit
God I hope all of marvel editorial gets fifty lashings at LEAST for letting all this shit to happen.
>>149696872He gave her the ick. It's fucking over.
>>149696973I think Paul is a better match for Aunt May too. Why can't Paul fans get excited about Paul getting a chance with that smoking hot silver fox now? Finally he gets the opportunity for ALL SORTS of cool stories and hype moments to really shine as a solo character, now that he's out of MJ and Peter's shadow. This could the best possible opportunity for him, I don't know why people are so angry...
>>149696986Isn't she too old for him?
I mean, her age is AT LEAST in double digits. Paul doesn't roll that way.
>>149696986>The Amazing Paul, Poland's most iconic superhero>Taking the mantle of Jackpot after the Symbiote stole his woman, his pride, and his muscle mass, Paul is ready to challenge his greatest enemy.>While he finally rape some respect into... his adopted son DYLAN BROCK!?!?>Excelsior!
>>149696997Paul isn't ageist you bigot. If he can rape someone as young as Dylan, he can rape someone as old as Aunt May. It's like they say in Poland. "Any hole is a goal."
Peter loves to watch from the window
>>149696827He's literally been the longest editor of Spider-Man by a LONG time. It's fucking ridiculous. And he's reasonably young. At best, he might leave at #1000, next year.
He's in his mid-40s. As far as I know, he's younger than anyone actually writing Spider-Man.
>>149696986>>149697005I think Paul should get the opportunity to get one over VenoMJ by raping the shit out of Anna Watson, that seems like a smart and clever plan that he would do. That's how he wins back everyone's respect. It's just like how they always say in Poland: "The stronger dog fucks the bitches."
https://youtu.be/QZjp0-7b-tY?si=ONUDFrCqjAgTwFX7
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>>149697015>Oh my god, he can't get it up>Oh shit, he's crying again>MJ looks bored. Hilarious, but also sad.>God, is he leaving? Oh, that shithead is screaming at Dylan again. Better make sure Paul doesn't get up to anything...
>>149697032>8 months oldPaulfaggots are really grasping for anything now. But answer me this: if you care so much about him, then what are the names of his children? Hmmm? Surely you hardcore Paulheads would be able to answer such an easy question!
>>149697028The way he immediately jumped to blame that episode on muggas without the knowledge to correctly do so sure was suspicious, maybe he drugged her.