Thread 149693974

I limited my list to one per author or else it would all be stuff by Grant Morrison or Alan Moore.

1 - Animal Man

Written by Grant Morrison
Art by Chaz Truog et al.
2 - Watchmen

Written by Alan Moore
Art by Dave Gibbons
3 - New Gods

By Jack Kirby
4 - DC: The New Frontier

By Darwyn Cooke
5 - The Dark Knight Returns

By Frank Miller (& Klaus Janson)
6 - Justice League of America

Written by Gardner Fox
Art by Mike Sekowsky
7 - Identity Crisis

Written by Brad Meltzer
Art by Rags Morales
8 - Jack Kirby: The Epic Life of the King of Comics

By Tom Scioli
9 - Green Lantern: Rebirth

Written by Geoff Johns
Art by Ethan Van Sciver
10 - Superman & Batman: World's Funnest

Written by Evan Dorkin
Art by Dave Gibbons et al.

Wrong, this is number 1

Adequate list, bro. I take little to no issue with most of your choices, and wouldn't want to insult you over any points where I would disagree.

>>149693974 (OP)
>Green Lantern: Rebirth
Eeeeeeeh, only one I would argue doesn't even belong in a top 50

>>149693974 (OP)
Read more comics faggot

>>149694417
Geoff Johns is very much a fast-food comic book mercenary, but GL Rebirth has some impressive retconning and spectacular art. The duel with Sinestro is terrific as well.

>>149693974 (OP)
Is there a topsters for comic books?

>>149694461
What's your top ten

>>149693974 (OP)
I wouldn't put Animal Man in my top 50, let alone top 10.
Identity Crisis is a laughably bad comic. World's Funnest isn't very fun.
>>149694474
Yeah, topsters.

>>149694538
>I wouldn't put Animal Man in my top 50, let alone top 10.
Terrible taste. Animal Man is revolutionary, a terrific serialized comic that understands the DC Universe better than anything before it. It's the best of the british invasion books post Moore, arguably better than his Swamp Thing.
>Identity Crisis is a laughably bad comic.
Not true. Meltzer's prose and pacing is terrific. His command of DC history is some of the best ever, the characters are honest, the dynamics are compelling. It's a blast to read.
>World's Funnest isn't very fun
So you must not enjoy DC comics? Or you just didn't read the book. I highly recommend you do. It's hilarious.

>>149694463
Not even top 10 GL stories

>>149693974 (OP)
You accidentally put one non-DC comic on your DC list

>>149694609
The other two are *almost* good trolls, but lauding Identity Crisis strains credulity too much. 3/10, needs some work

>>149693974 (OP)
You are a faggot

For my top 10, I am including the authors whole run on a set of characters, except for Grant Morrison which is only the Vol 1 Omnibus.
>>149694609
>Not true. Meltzer's prose and pacing is terrific. His command of DC history is some of the best ever, the characters are honest, the dynamics are compelling. It's a blast to read.
Completely agreed.

>>149693974 (OP)
So, all DC plus one Jack Kirby comic which isn't much different?

>>149694805
Like OP, you've completely and utterly destroyed your top ten with Identity Crisis? Why do this?

>>149693974 (OP)
Try reading some non-cape comics, please. Y: The Last Man, Saga, Monstress, Preacher, Transmetropolitan, Fables, Strangers in Paradise, Chew, Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron, Acme Novelty Library, Scott Pilgrim, Girls, The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, Asterios Polyp, Love and Rockets, Prison Pit, Northlanders, Undone by Blood, Geiger, and some other.

>>149694845
>Why do this?
Contrarian experience a suffocating sensation if someone at some point in the day doesn't know they're not like the others, but first they need to bait people into caring with the veneer of significance.

>>149694733
Read the title again, it's for all comics. Just so happens that they are all DC. Personal taste.

>>149694805
And I should clarify that I only care for Spider-Man as long as Ditko is on it... not Stan Lee.
>>149694845
OP going through with including it and your subsequent annoyance gave me the confidence to go with it. It is a great read.
>>149694851
A lot of those suck, but I do wish I had more non-capeshit comics under my belt

>>149694701
I like Morrison's GL better than GL Rebirth. John Broome's stories are better as well, I will admit. I'm curious to hear ten GL stories better than Rebirth.

>>149694805
Great list

>>149694845
Not them, but what's wrong with Identity Crisis? It's like Heroes in Crisis, but done right. It's a great study of superheroes, exploring their identity and the fact that they are human and suffer losses too. Yeah, there's some shocking & traumatic stuff in there and some adult themes, but it's all written well, and the art is good too.

>>149694851
Y Last Man and Saga are semantic soap opera tv pitch garbage. Preacher is great. Warren Ellis has Planetary under his belt, which is great until that last issue. Love and Rockets is also good. Kudos to you for including Prison Pit, which is just excellent. Unfortunately, I prefer the comics on my list. I will say that if I want to consume non-cape stuff, I go and read prose or watch movies.

>>149693974 (OP)
lmao all capeshit

>>149694775
Can't argue with difference of taste. Curious to hear your top ten.

>>149695000
Pretty good stuff IMO

>>149694851
goddamn you have awful taste

>>149693974 (OP)
>6 - Justice League of America
>Written by Gardner Fox
>Art by Mike Sekowsky
Do you think this is a legitimately good run, or are you choosing this for "importance" or whatever? Very sincere question. I haven't read it.

>>149695000
you probably have worst taste, fag

>>149694851
>Try reading some non-cape comics, please
Yes, they should
>Y: The Last Man
Overrated, final arc kinda sucks
>Saga
INCREDIBLY overrated, not even worth a read due to all the hiatuses
>Monstress
Good art, cool world-building, TERRIBLE dialogue
>Preacher
Depends on your tolerance for Ennis
>Transmetropolitan
Depends on your tolerance for Ellis but it's a tad overrated
>Fables
Completely shits the bed after the Adversary arc
>Strangers in Paradise
Haven't read because Rachel Rising left a bad taste in my mouth from what I can remember about it so I'd probably pass
>Chew
Ending kinda sucks
>Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron
Clowes is good
>Acme Novelty Library
Ware is good
>Scott Pilgrim
Overrated especially this day and age when there are so many better alternatives
>Girls
This is a shitpost suggestion
>The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck
Never read but I heard good things
>Asterios Polyp
Solid, very solid
>Love and Rockets
Also good
>Prison Pit
Edgy trash
>Northlanders
Kind of forgettable, there's way better medieval historical comics out there
>Undone by Blood
Never read but Aftershock has generally been pretty mid from my experience and I've given that publisher a lot of chances
>Geiger
FUCK no, this is just capeshit with the serial numbers filed off.

Your list is more shit than good.

>>149694914
>I like Morrison's GL better than GL Rebirth.
You have terrible taste, /co/mrade. Not only is Morrison's GL one of his weakest works, especially S2, which was awful and barely readable, but it's also inferior to the Humphries/Venditti era, which in turn was inferior to the Johns/Tomasi era.

>>149694851
>Scott Pilgrim
>Prison Pit
>Geiger
How eclectic.

>>149695093
NTA, but what non-cape comics would you rec?

>>149695106
>>I like Morrison's GL better than GL Rebirth.
>You have terrible taste, /co/mrade.

Yeah, anyone claiming this is probably just biased. I'm not a big Johns fans, but his GL, at least up through Blackest Night, is clearly the best run on the character. Even mediocre writers can be good sometimes and that anon seems to not want to admit that and give the run its due.

>>149695126
I've been on a bit of a eurocomic kick lately so here's my quick and dirty list
>Blueberry
>Anything by Kerascoët
>The Swindling Indies
>The Snake and the Spear
>Blast
>Nikolai Dante
>Shakara
>Torpedo
>The Killer (movie is also pretty good)
>Undertaker
>Dungeon/Donjon
>Slava After the Fall
>Last Man (show is kino)

>>149694851
Geiger is terrible, it's just Johnslop trying to be Millarslop

>>149695126
NTA, but I'd recommend Blacksad, Tintin, Nikolai Dante, Nikopol, The Incal, Borgia, Requiem Chevalier Vampire, Sky Doll.

>>149695245
Rainbow Lanterns suck, especially when they're almost wholly pointless

>>149695331
>Blacksad

>>149695082
Terrific silver age done in ones, so much imagination in the stories of Fox and Broome. His JLA run is so much fun.

>>149694463
>Impressive retconning
Christ anon

>>149695106
There is more in a single issue of Morrison's GL than there is in an entire six issues of Vendetti or Humphries. Vendetti and Humphries have put out some great work, I love Hawkman and Dial H For Hero, very good books. The high point of the Johns run is Rebirth, the Sinestro Corps and Blackest Night stories are good but become bloated and bogged down by tie ins. Also, both are just action figure smash stories, not much substance to fill the amount of space they took up.

>>149694851
>Saga
this is embarrassing for you anon

>>149695517
Parallax as a fear demon from space to explain Emerald Twilight and the weakness to yellow is pretty good IMO

>>149695512
That is interesting to me, because I have heard people say it is one of the weaker DC Silver Age runs, but I go against consensus all the time, so who is to say. Can't judge until I read myself.

>>149695574
>the think most people agree is retarded is a good thing actually
no, no one actually likes the yellow space bug bullshit

>>149695607
I can't speak for everyone else besides the fact that I disagree. But I say you should definitely check it out and judge it for yourself.

>>149695631
I don't really care if people don't like it. I think the book is great and the retcon is great.

>>149695673
Well you're wrong there buddy, there's a reason it's regarded as one of the more retarded retcons. It's fucking stupid just to handwave all of Hal's character development on an evil space bug.

>>149695631
>>149695691
you really have shit taste

>>149693974 (OP)
>Identity Crisis
embarrassing

>>149695809
I'm not the one trying to defend some retarded ass evil space bug retcon lol

Just makes his entire redemption arc completely pointless because there's nothing for him to redeem himself from because it was all the evil space bug's fault.

>no one ever heard of Pogo
Thread, I'm disappoint.

>>149695878
this is the capeslop thread anon, you'll have to try somewhere else if you want to talk about newspaper strips

I should make a top 100 list sometime just for the fuck of it.

>>149694896
>>149694943
>what's wrong with Identity Crisis?
Plenty. Contriving for the superheroes to be so ineffectual, constructing an incredibly stupid murder mystery, and the constant, platitudinous narration make it a frustratingly bad read. All in all, it's a poor application of some of the themes of comics like Watchmen and The Killing Joke to the Justice League while DiDio also had his greasy hands in it.
>It's like Heroes in Crisis, but done right.
It's almost as bad. Both had ruinous editorial meddling, though Meltzer is a better writer than King.
OP is a baiting bitch saying all this stuff about liking the DC universe but placing one of the most odious DC comics ever this side of Tom King on his all-time top 10.

>>149696515
NTA. I don't like Identity Crisis at all, but part of the problem comes from trying to do a murder mystery involving characters who have too expansive of a toolkit when together. Yeah, they could have figured it out, and relatively quickly at that, and there's not really a way around it with the kind if story that they wanted to tell.

It's like how these characters having secret identities with our level of technology isn't feasible, let alone with the tech of the setting. However, we accept it for the sake of it being enjoyable and to give variety in the personal lives of the character.

Is that satisfying? No, but it is what it is.

>>149695953
I'll bite, why do you like Punisher 2099, let alone place it in your top 10? I've never met anyone who liked it, but it had a bit of a run, so a lot of people had to at one point.

>>149693974 (OP)
I can only give my top 5 because most comics aren't worth the time.
>300 by Miller
>From Hell by Moore
>Punisher Max by Ennis
>Immortal Hulk by Ewing
>the older issues of Dylan Dog

>>149695631
I like it.

>>149695877
You cannot redeem him otherwise. There can be no redemption arc.

>>149696380
I've been working one. It's not easy.

>>149693974 (OP)
A decent list. Personally I didnt like identity crisis, though I admit it's good. I'd replace that with Bone. And I think I'd drop world's funnest to 11th behind Ducks.

>>149693974 (OP)
I'm trying to come up with a top ten superhero comics list without repeating writers, but I can't make ten. I'd repeat Moore and Miller.

>Identity Crisis.
I'll give you credit for putting it in the middle to sneak it by but also no, just no.

All cape stories? No indie comics? No manga or bandes dessinees? The world contains Carl Barks, the Hernandez Bros, Eisner, etc. Not to mention all the serial comic strips.

>>149693974 (OP)
top 5 are alright
bottom 5 are retarded picks

>>149697827
>No manga
Well if manga was allowed it would be all manga.

>>149697827
/a/ has its own charts and I guess most anons haven't read enough euro stuff, which is a shame.

>>149693974 (OP)
>I limited my list to one per author

I'll do the same then.

1. The Dark Knight Returns
2. The Punisher by Chuck Dixon
3. Judge Dredd by John Wagner
4. American Flagg!
5. Jon Sable, Freelance
6. Foolkiller by Steve Gerber
7. Mage: The Hero Discovered
8. Hitman
9. Conan: Red Nails by Roy Thomas and Barry Windsor-Smith
10. Twisted ToyFare Theatre

Half of this would be different if I could repeat writers.

Also using the "1 comic per writer" limit:
>Thor by Walt Simonson
>Fantastic Four by John Byrne
>X-Men by Chris Claremont
>Iron Man by Bob Layton and David Michelinie
>Daredevil by Frank Miller
>Green Arrow by Mike Grell
>Justice League by Keith Giffen (and collaborators)
>Suicide Squad by Jon Ostrander
>Moon Knight by Doug Moench and Bill Sienkiewicz
>Swamp Thing by Alan Moore
These are arranged randomly.

>>149693974 (OP)
…no Judge Dredd.

>>149693974 (OP)
>no mafalda
Do you even read comicbooks besides marvel and dc stuff?

In no particular order:
>Top 10
>Fish Police
>Sin City
>Ms. Tree
>The Maze Agency
>Torpedo
>Sam & Max
>The Bogie Man
>Hitman
>Cops: The Job

1. Tom Strong - I've read and reread this series so many times. Not perfect, but probably the closest to what I want from the medium. I'm including Terrific Tales in with this, if only for the wonderful Jonni Future stories, and I suppose Terra Obscura counts since it's technically a spin-off.

2. The Shadow Strikes! - This would be #1 if it was more consistent. The worst issues are genuinely bad, but the majority of them are virtually perfect. I wish it could have lasted even longer. The Shadow is one of those things that deserves to always be in publication in comics. If only it could get the same treatment as Conan...

3. Conan #0-50 (Dark Horse) - The best single volume of the character. See also: LITERALLY PERFECT ART.

4. Conan by Roy Thomas - Not as consistent as the above, but maybe overall better because of how much of it there is.

5. Planetary - I don't even like Warren Ellis, but this is just about the best shit ever. It'd have ranked higher if not for it feeling a tad "thin" (for lack of a better term) content-wise.

6. Xenozoic Tales / Cadillacs & Dinosaurs - By arguably the most underrated writer/artist in comics history. Another comic that, like Tom Strong, was practically made for me. Loved the arcade game, too!

7. Camelot 3000 - Possibly the greatest art in comics history and just an unapologetically fun concept.

8. Hawks of Outremer - Possibly the most underrated miniseries of the 2010s. An adaptation of a Robert E. Howard story executed to ultraviolent perfection.

9. Mage - The first volume might be my favorite story in comics. I'd rank this much higher if the followup volumes were anywhere near as good.

10. XIII - Yeah, the later volumes are dogshit, but you can always stop before it goes down the crapper. The early volumes are the most compelling French comic of all time easily.

>>149693974 (OP)
Okay, where are the comics?

It's just capeshit.

>>149693974 (OP)
I too love Morrison and Moore.
Branch out of capeshit, it's worth it. The medium is huge and so storied.

>>149693974 (OP)
>all capeshit
moron
Mods should put this shitty thread out of its misery.

>>149697827
what bandes dessinées are you reading?

>>149693974 (OP)
I think:
> If you can make a top ten you should read more comics.
>if you use the term capeshit you need to get over yourself and realize you're just driving people away from other types of comics. Further, a lot of the indy guys you love started out reading cape comics.
>the first volume of L&R is boring as fuck and it needs to be stated upfront otherwise people are going to assume the whole thing sucks just as hard and fuck off to something else.

I'd probably go with:

Gast by Carol Swain
Louis Riel by Chester Brown
Alack Sinner by Muñoz and Sampayo
Black Hole by Charles Burns
From Hell by Moore and Campbell
The Drifting Classroom by Umezz
Ganges by Kevin Huizenga
Krazy Kat by Herriman
Goodman Beaver by Kurtzman and Elder
Elektra Assassin by Sienkiewicz and Miller

Ronin
Mike Grell's Green Arrow
Eastman and Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Scout
Dreadstar
Mister X
Nexus
Grimjack
Grendel
Alan Davis's Captain Britain (you could even include Excalibur with this)

Little Lulu
Night Music
Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Jim Steranko)
Give Me Liberty
Thorgal
The 'Nam
The Adventures of Tintin
The Adventures of Blake & Mortimer
The Question (Dennis O'Neil)
Swamp Thing (Alan Moore)

>>149696716
>You cannot redeem him otherwise
So you're just going to ignore the entire Spectre arc?

In no particular order (and going by favorites not going on a metric of best)

1. Image comics Witch Doctor
2. DC comics Blackest Night event (all tie ins)
3. Usagi Yojimbo
4. Basket Full of Heads
5. DC comics Worlds Funnest
6. Marvel comics Infinity Guantlet event (including Silver Surfer preludes and Thanos Quest)
7. Vertigo comics Y The Last Man
8. Fletcher Hanks collection (Turn Loose Your Death Rays and Kill Them All!)
9. Image comic's Karmen
10. IDW Godzilla In Hell (could also go with Half Century War)

Probably would switch some stuff in and out if I spent a day on it, but what I could think of while on a lunchbreak so they are for sure ones I often think of and keep close.

>>149696617
It's a lot better than the other 2099 comics
and I only read a little punisher i haven't read all of his stories but i like this one the most

>>149699135
Wrong. Go back to your preschool cartoon threads and stay there.

>>149696706
Why? It makes all the Parallax stuff less interesting.

>>149695331
solid taste

>>149694805
>Ditko ASM
>Peanuts
>>149694896
>posts Avenging World
>not caring about Stan
I wish that I could be your friend. Ditko's ASM is my favorite run of all time. He had a very creative mind. His characters were expressive, and he obviously contributed a lot to the plot of the first half of the run, Stan only wrote the dialogue of the rest

>>149694851
One of the biggest memes and an opinion pseuds have is that superhero comics weren't good, or that pic rel isn't true for a lot of non cape comics. Whenever someone here lists their top ten cape comics, usually it's 60s-90s stuff. I won't defend everything that came after that
>Scott Pilgrim
Oh I should have read this first. Dumb post

>>149701405
>Ditko's ASM
I'm working through it right now, and it's pretty dated. I really like Ditko's art and the characters, but the superfluous dialogue and narration kind of kill the rhythm of the action.

>>149701551
Those are just autobios.

>>149701778
Yes, that is Stan's main contribution. Sometimes the conversations between characters were really good. Sometimes

>>149693974 (OP)
Lame

>>149703413
post yours

>>149693974 (OP)
literally grow a better taste

>>149693974 (OP)
>GL Goy slop in your top ten

Tragic

>>149703632
The entire list is capeshit I'm not sure what you expected.

Who cares

>>149693974 (OP)
Keeping to superhero comics, I'm having a tough time. I'd have to reread a bunch of stuff.
>top 5
Watchmen
The Dark Knight Returns
Foolkiller (Gerber)
Astro City
Mage: The Hero Discovered

After that, it gets more difficult.
All-Star Superman? DC: The New Frontier? Planetary? Steranko's Nick Fury?

>>149705961
I do.

>>149708327
Prove it

>>149701778
you have shit taste and are a fag and also are retarded

>>149704064
best taste in the thread so far

>>149701405
I am glad that we feel similarly anon. Ditko's ASM is what got me into comics in the first place. He is very talented, and it shows through his work.

>>149708871
You're saying that because it's yours.

>>149709084
try again faggot

>Not even one Marvel book
BASED

>>149709012
>is what got me into comics in the first place
Same. I believed all the bad stereotypes, which are kind of true. But after finishing it I was surprised. There's something so unique about how Ditko draws and writes stories, specially ASM, that i still can't find something similar

>>149701405
>Stan only wrote the dialogue of the rest

By all accounts, Lee was vetoing plot points, forcing panels to be redrawn, editing, etc., and had some direct involvement with plotting for almost two thirds of the run at least.

>>149709377
That only proves you have at least two devices.

1. Grendel
2. Doom Patrol by Grant Morrison
3. Swamp Thing by Alan Moore
4. Superman: For the Man Who Has Everything
5. Megg, Mogg and Owl
6. Thor by Walter Simonson
7. Kraven's Last Hunt
8. Foolkiller by Steve Gerber
9. Punisher MAX
10. Ronin
I know I have shit taste but it is MY shit taste.

>>149709745
your post only proves that you're a faggot

I've been wondering why comic discussions turned so trash.

>>149709647
According to how Ditko was credited, he was plotting starting with issue 25. But he said he was already doing it around issue 18, I believe him. And once that happened Stan would just read his notes and write the dialogue. Leaving that aside, I agree with your post

>>149710060
not enough batman?

>>149708862
True, but I still have better taste, am less gay, and am less retarded than you.

Eightball
Strangehaven
The Crow
Calvin and Hobbes
Scud the Disposable Assassin
Faust: Love of the Damned
The Goon
Stray Bullets
Ostrander's Suicide Squad
Morrison's Doom Patrol

>>149693974 (OP)
>7 - Identity Crisis
Throw this whole thing in the trash

>>149694609
This has to be bait. Please tell me it's bait.

>No Golden Age
>Barely any Silver Age
>Virtually no Foreign comics

*shakes head sadly*

>>149711466
>>Virtually no Foreign comics
If they were good they would've been American comics

>>149707454
Settled on these but I have to reread for sure.

>>149711235
It's bait.

>>149711466
>Virtually no Foreign comics
THIS and this.

>>149694006
Based

>>149694006
Fpbp

I got into comics this year so I haven't read that much since it's pretty expensive. There's also lots of euro comics I want to give a go, but they've been out of stock at my comic shop for a while.
So far these are my favorites
>Superman For All Seasons
>Weapon X
>Batman The Long Halloween
>Thor by Walter Simonson (I haven't finished this one yet, probably like 3/4ths of the way through
>Watchmen
>Astro City (I read the first Metrobook)
>Ultramega
>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (the original one)
>Daredevil the Man Without Fear
>Elric by Julien Blondel

Meh

bad taste

>>149715292
Which one?

Decided to keep it restricted to cape stuff to make it easier on myself. Might do a non-cape version later if I can find the time.

>>149716056
This is pretty solid imo
Some may contest the Doc 13 inclusion as it's more satire than a story, but I admire the attempt to use the characters in such an involved capacity.

>>149716133
I'm a huge metafag (see also: Planetary, multiple Morrison inclusions) and I would be lying to myself if I didn't include Architecture and Mortality. It's meta as fuck and just a lot of fun from front to back.I perfectly understand if other people wouldn't put it in their top 10 but I made no attempt to be objective here.

>>149712704
Manga? Okay, different board and in many ways are different artistic eco system. But no Tin Tin? No Britcoms like Dan Dare?

And almost everything posted is capes. Like humor, adventure, horror, sci fi, funny animal books never existed.

>>149716056
>>149716181
I didn't like Doctor 13, but that's just me.
Have you read Jack Staff?

>>149716767
First time on /co/, huh?

We've got both kinds of comics here: Marvel and DC.

>>149716789
>I didn't like Doctor 13, but that's just me.
Yeah I get that. It's more of a "these are the things I like" list than "these are the things that are objectively great".
>Have you read Jack Staff?
I haven't. Would you recommend it?

>>149716922
Yeah. It's pretty good, but unfinished.

>>149693974 (OP)
we reading comics now?

>>149717841
clearly not if fucking Identity Crisis is in anyone's top 10

>>149717812
Thanks, I'll put it on my backlog.

>>149694006
A real American hero.

>>149717841
Get to it.

Boring.

>>149695512
>>149695607
I find them boring as dirt.

>>149711466
Golden and Silver Ages don't hold up as much.

>all these Foolkillers
Based.

>>149716767
Stuff like Tin Tin is far more likely to end up on your list if you have nostalgia for it and Americans really don't have that. Same reason why so many people haven't read the duck comics despite people constantly evangelizing for them.

>>149720648
lol, Foolkiller is one of the most /co/core runs, it's always recommended here but I rarely see it discussed elsewhere

>>149721096
Weren't most /co/core comics not that good?

>>149721692
>Weren't most 4chancore things not that good?
Fixed

>>149721874
True.

>>149721692
It's mixed. This is an example of /co/ appreciating something that's a genuine masterpiece.

>>149721096
Most of the time when /co/ shills something it is to ragebait but sometimes they talk about good stuff.
It was on my top-ten too.

In no particular order
Hellboy
>Astro City
Swamp Thing
>Animal Man
Lucifer
>DKR
Kingdom Come
>New Gods
Alan Moore's Supreme run
Hellblazer
Obviously Hellblazer oscillated wildly in quality over 300 issues but I'm partial to it and it's a who's who of awesome writers

>>149723277
Why'd you list them like that?

>>149717841
Well what else should we be reading?

>>149712146
Picking a best Morrison superhero comic is tough.

>>149725705
It's easy cause you can just pick none

*A Small Killing
Alan Moore and Oscar Zarate

*Domu: A Child's Dream

*All-Star Superman

*Look Back
Fujimoto

*Kyle Baker's Plastic Man

*Bizarro Comics by Evan Dorkin and others

*Ex Machina by Brian K Vaughan and Tony Harris

*Fleep by Jason Shiga

*Cerebus by Dave Sim and Gerard

*Batman: Year One by Frank Miller/Sin City by Frank Miller (tie)

>>149726109
>Kyle Baker's Plastic Man
You fucked up.

I'll make an irrefutable chart one day.

>>149725992
kek

>>149695082
Gardner Fox probably was amongst the most creative and imaginative writers in an era where there were many other good writers immediately during or right after (Otto Binder, Hamilton, etc.)

The reason he's not as well known as some others, particularly among younger and mostly 'modern' material readers is that there's no collection being shoved into our faces (e.g. Captain America by So and So or Thor by So and So) and he didn't relentless self-promote himself like Stan Lee nor were their people relentlessly promoting him - e.g. Moore, Millar (both were also self-promoting whores but both, spelling aside, were also relentless promoted), Cereal Lord, etc. - and even DC collects him without promoting him specifically as an author (e.g. they are Silver Age Omnis of say Adam Strange, or Justice League of America, versus it being "Gardner Fox's Adam Strange" the way DC will do for Mark Waid, or Johns on say their Wally West collections.

Bump for interest, I'm gonna think up a list later.

>>149699372
>if you use the term capeshit you need to get over yourself and realize you're just driving people away from other types of comics.
Calling a spade ain't no crime.

>>149729104
How lame! You could easily make it quick.

>>149729259
>Earth X
>fucking Empowered

Okay /co/, I'm ready to be called a pretentious faggot or roasted by other pretentious faggots for not having read any Jodorowsky yet.

>>149729642
>not having read any Jodorowsky yet.
Jodorowsky is a hack and literally all of his successful comics are hard carried by the artist.

>>149728590
Gardner Fox's comics are boring.

>>149730008
The artists do a lot of the heavy lifting but Jodorowsky's writing is so wholly unique that it's difficult to say those comics would be anywhere near as good without him.

>>149728590
OK, but my question was more rooted in the idea that I heard JLA was one of his weaker efforts.

>>149730210
This

>>149728546
?

>>149729259
Squeezing in those two Euro comics at the bottom feels like an insult.

Attempting a top 25 now.

>>149729284
I could add more but that are the best ones i could come up with instantly.

>>149732040
Why? The others are chronoligical published within a year and the BD ones are a timeframe.

>>149733201
>it keeps getting worse

>>149733290
Why does it get worse? They are better than you think.

>>149733572
Secret Wars is exactly as bad as I think it is (i.e. awful)

>>149733606
I disagree. It is a good story. Just the lead in is bad and not every miniseries is good, but i mean the main event book. I like the Games of Thrones angle.

>>149733681
No the fuck it is not, it's just Doomwank writ large. The entire plot being solved by a hamburger Miles stored inside his ass is not the mark of a good story.

>>149733750
The Hamburger is just a allegory. It is there to show that molecule man needs a kind act to get active and know he can trust them.
It is very similar like Dr Manhattan when he meets up with Silk Spectre.

>>149733869
an allegory for an asspull because Hackman didn't know how to end the story

>>149733874
A common story device. Thats why Deus Ex Machina is a known term.
And someone being nice is a good way to solve it or activate the last act.

>>149733282
It's like you shoehorned them in last minute.

>Identity Crisis
Even putting aside "THE RAPE PAGES ARE IN", it's such an idiotically conceived mystery with an appropriately idiotic resolution

>>149733928
NTA but Deus Ex Machinas tend to be rather hack-y, the one in Secret Wars was very stupid.

>>149735001
the rape plotline being a complete red herring really puts that extra special sauce of retardation on the comic

>>149735136
What is this dogshit?

>>149736862
a parody of Secret Wars

>>149734488
Honestly, they were the third choices after saving the Watchmen and Kingdom Come. Why it seems this way to you is that i wasnt sure where to place Asterix in a chronological order, so i put the whole series, omnibus versions at the end.

>>149736862
It's an edit of this retarded scene

>>149735136
Deus Ex Machinas always tend to be that way. Since it always comes as a surprise a reader couldnt see it coming. And is mostly used when a writer wrote himself into a corner. Like Alexander cut the Gordian Knot.

>>149737137
>Forgetting a 3 week burger you held on to
That shit should look, smell and feel rancid. HOW.

>>149737671
Bad writing.

>>149694805
>Daredevil
Very based. He was my favorite as a kid. The original silver age run and Frank Miller era is great. There was a rough patch in the mid 70s. I read a few from my collection recently and Cobra and Mr. Hyde is a real stinker.

>>149695000
>capeshit
I think you're confusing marvel movie slop with actual comics, anon.

Gave no thought to author, cover is just the general era of the comic I like

>>149738768
The ones by Frank Miller are the only good ones here.

>>149733201
come the fuck on

>>149738917
you have crap taste

>>149739956
I'm basically already telling you that you do.

>>149738917
Well 70s Spiderman overall isn’t great but still good or at least passable

>>149738917
Conway Spider-Man is good (better than the Wolverine mini, at least).

>>149742124
>better than the Wolverine mini, at least
Nope.
>>149742201
He's well regarded for a good reason.

>>149742344
It really fucking is. That Wolverine mini is only notable for having early Frank Miller on the art (and for being the first solo Wolverine comic). The writing is whatever, and while Miller is a huge talent, Wolverine is nowhere near his best work.

>>149742424
>That Wolverine mini is only notable for having early Frank Miller on the art (and for being the first solo Wolverine comic). The writing is whatever, and while Miller is a huge talent, Wolverine is nowhere near his best work.
I mostly agree, but it's still better than Conway's Spider-Man.

>>149742973
and I disagree. Conway's Spider-Man is a seminal run, because it's good. Claremont and Miller's Wolverine is only notable for its place in history, not for any inherent quality of the work.

>>149694851
>Undone by Blood
Just read it, this was a waste of time with a wet fart of an ending.

>>149743016
Not him, but did you like the doc ock issues?

>>149743016
I think it's the other way around. Conway's Spider-Man is more important than it is good, while Wolverine is Claremont's best work.

>Identity Crisis
So glad everyone is shitting on this turd.

>>149744485
Well deserved.

>>149718648
Your balls are boring.

>>149737817
>>149737671
Wrong. Sacrificing reality for a joke.

>>149738768
So are they those runs the cover was published in, that issue or the whole series.
Because not every Tales from the Crypt story is good.

>>149733201
Jesus wept.

eternauta

Add Dredd by Wagner for the tenth

>>149745943
My dick is boring into your mom's asshole.

It's hard because most comics suck.

>>149749233
fuck you faggot

>>149749824
It's a basic fact. How could you even disagree with it?

>>149693974 (OP)
>7 - Identity Crisis
>Written by Brad Meltzer

>top 10 non-cape genre fiction comics
From Hell (slasher horror, historical fiction)
The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (adventure)
Donald Duck/Uncle Scrooge (adventure)
The Adventures of Luther Arkwright (science fiction, alternate history)
Judge Dredd (science fiction, action, etc.)
Cerebus (fantasy, adventure, political thriller, etc.)
Love and Rockets (romance, supernatural horror, crime, etc.)
Preacher (western, adventure, supernatural horror, etc.)
Sin City (crime, action)
American Flagg! (science fiction, action, etc.)

>>149738917
Dang, you ain't lying. That one guy has some real shit taste.

This thread was good for finding recs. Thanks

>>149753289
It could have been better.

>>149753298
How?

>>149754269
not starting with a retard who thinks Identity Crisis is good

>>149754269
A better attempt at objectivity, and more posters that don't just read superhero comics.

>>149754808
Fuck that.

>>149754808
>A better attempt at objectivity
What would be the point of that? Anons aren't doing this as a job, they're not getting paid to review things for general audiences or the judges at an awards ceremony. Surely the whole point of doing something like this in the context of a 4chan thread is to talk about the comics you personally like?

>>149755844
OP claimed "top 10 of all time", not "top 10 favorites".

>>149757634
is this a joke

>>149756992
it's implied he meant your all time favorites

stop being a faggot

>>149758579
maybe he should have said that, then

>>149758579
>it's implied
No it isn't.

>>149753289
You're welcome.

Honorable mentions:
>Amazing Spider-Man #121-122 (Gerry Conway and Gil Kane)
>Wrinkles (Paco Roca)
>A Small Killing (Alan Moore and Oscar Zarate)
>Duck Avenger New Adventures (Alessandro Sisti, Ezio Sisto, Claudio Sciarrone, Max Monteduro)
>The Incal (Alejandro Jodorowsky and Mœbius)

I would also include Rowlf by Richard Corben, but it's been a very recent read of mine, so I don't want to be influenced by recency bias.

>>149760962
XIII is great.

>>149756992
Shut up retard, nobodfy expects you to make an objective top 10 list, ever. You, no matter who you are, will never have the authority to do so. Yoiu can only give out your favorites and you can be roasted for having mediocrity in your top 10. You nerds are so autistic...

>>149693974 (OP)
i'm pretty much entirely new to reading comics
i read some calvin and hobbs and some archie but never superhero stuff
would any of these be a good place to start?

>>149762356
If you want to read superhero comics then read whatever you think looks interesting. Ignore anyone who tries to make it more complicated than that.

>>149762356
The intent and significance of other stuff might go unrecognized or unappreciated without some familiarity first.
The following should work as transition material.

For DC: Justice League International by Keith Giffin and J. M. DeMatteis and Major Bummer by John Arcudi and Doug Mahnke.

For Marvel: The Superior Foes of Spider-Man by Nick Spencer and Steve Lieber and Nextwave by Warren Ellis and Stuart Immonen.

>>149760962
>Wrinkles (Paco Roca)
NICE

>>149762677
thanks for the recs, ill check out JL and go from there
>>149762570
good advice and i generally do that with anything but there's a LOT of material in this case and the only superheros i have a passing familiarity with is batman superman and spider-man

>>149762054
Ironic.

>>149763703
Your image reaction, sir.

>>149763727
Thanks.

>>149762677
Awful Marvel choices. Those are Redditor prime picks.

>>149765037
Warren Ellis is too problematic for Reddit

>>149765051
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelcomics/comments/1e95i3u/whats_your_opinion_on_nextwave/

This is the slowest 3x3 thread ever.
Would you guys be willing to participate in an proper 3x3 comics thread in the future?

>>149765565
meh

>>149765037
Superior Foes and Nextwave are both great

>>149766481
No, they're both reddit.