Thread 149694171

This cartoon had a pretty toxic influence on children now that I think about it.

youre about 10 years late for that cold take.

>>149694171 (OP)
Thankfully, no children watched this shit.

>>149694212
please tell me this isn't official shit anon...

>>149694171 (OP)
First canonical incest sex in children's media according to lore

>>149694171 (OP)
Oh yeah, empathy and acceptance are very horrible things to teach kids.

>>149694237
nta but sorry dude, they made like 20 different images and videos with that stuff and being open to telling adults you dont want to have sex with them
im not even fucking joking.

>>149694243
>>>/lgbt/

>>149694243
>people that watch Steven Universe have empathy
>or tolerate any dissent
terrible teacher, this shit is so vile that you could use it to train Hitler youth

>>149694296
Hitler was literally FOR the evil shit SU goes against.

>>149694313
So they should forgive fascists then?
Also don't forget the fandom that wanted an artist
dead. Twice

>>149694313
yeah i remember when he hitler said magical crystals that are transvestite people who commit sodomy to become one person.
youre thinking of allistar crowley

Anons, let's try something for this thread, If you are reading this go and watch one random episode, and tell us how do you feel after and what you hated, sounds good?
https://www.wcoflix.tv/

>>149694313
you say that but everyone that watches this shit is a pissy little fascist when they don't get their way

>>149694212
Reminds me of when Nickelodeon interrupted their channel to air a message about fucking George Floyd

>>149694264
oh fuck

>>149694361
sugar is a jewish surname, i dont know what else youd expect in all honesty
sugar was an expensive commodity so ofc its gonna be jewish

Will /co/ ever be able to move on from the 2010s?
>Takes one look at the state of the modern comics and cartoons industries
Oh, right.

>>149694333
>>149694352
Harmless shows like Loud House and MLP have toxic af fan bases as well. And they don’t have any of that SU redemption shit. The mentally unstable people are the problem

>>149694171 (OP)
The only people who watched SU were tumblr teens and millenials.

>>149694394
toxic yes
but not fascists

>>149694420
I’m gen z and not a tumblr artist.

>>149694379
I knew that, just that I didn't expect it to be that bad...I just saw the show from surface only and dipped out early, only stayed for /sug/ and murdercock memes then just bailed after the og show ended.

>>149694212
>teaching kids to be annoying shits in a socially acceptable way

>>149694333
You know what's funny? I was about to argue against the space fascist label because the term "fascism" gets thrown around pretty willy-nilly these days, but then I realized they actually meet the classical definition of fascism.
>All power is vested completely in the state run by a few individuals with a singular figure at the helm and all economic systems vertically integrated into the state apparatus with the army acting as its direct arm in internal, external, and all systemic affairs
In fact SU might be the only modern cartoon that shows a genuinely fascist state in a non-historical context. Huh.

>>149694467
huh...never thought about it that way.

I’m surprised a series this shitty is somehow popular enough to get a spin off starring one of the most unlikable characters in a show full of unlikable characters. It’s like the executives of cartoon network went on tumblr once and thought “gee this sit of fags and trannies must be so popular with the youth!” Not realizing most kids don’t use tumblr.

>>149694565
Just using those slurs makes your opinion invalid.

>>149694573
literacy issue

>>149694573
Kill yourself, nigger loving tranny. Anyways, I wanna fuck the gems.

>>149694596
Take your own advice

>>149694612
some people have a greater purpose in life

>>149694705
Being bigoted isn’t a greater purpose

>>149694713
there are no bigots here, you're just delusional

>>149694713
Yes it is.

>>149694729
I am bigoted. Only straight White cis males and their gem waifus matter.

>>149694729
Denial is an ego response

>>149694744
Being honest about it. Better and worse

>>149694729
This, 4chan is a site of universal tolerance, bigots are literally electrocuted through their keyboards if they post here. Everyone's just having a laugh.

>>149694758
Denial? This is a case of you being a colossal retard.

>>149694713
it is to me.

>>149694766
The secret is that no one tolerates shit. Not even the tolerant people. It's just a game for narcissists.

>>149694769
Go watch your precious animes

>>149694777
everything in moderation. even tolerance.

>>149694778
uwa, so tolerant

>>149694713
>He doesn't know

>>149694783
tolerance for me but not for thee
as it should be

>>149694784
he didnt insult them if anything he said animes are precious to you so he took your feelings into consideration.

>>149694794
Nazis made huge mistake. So it's still just a lower purpose.

>>149694811
if anything they created the monsters that jews are today. hitler was a fucking mong who couldnt ven do what some bloke with bows and arrows and cooler moustache did a few thousand years ago

>>149694809
no

>>149694811
You're right, they were too tolerant.

>>149694827
Nah, my family has always been monsters.

>>149694836
no, they failed to recognize Odin

>>149694863
im not ignoring history, theres probably some cuneiform out there talking about how jews had to be cast out because they where taking more goats milk than they earned

>>149694882
Someone sure has had their fair share of goats milk on Epstein island.

>>149694907
epstein had a goat farm? that doesnt surprise me in the least if its the weird sex island were all led to believe

>>149694919
I went to Epstein island and spent all my time there sucking on goat titties

>>149694919
It's always been about milking the young ones. Baby goats are called kids if I'm not mistaken.

>>149694928
whats his other island like? the one mark millar obviously spent time at.

>>149694171 (OP)
I don't know a single child that watched it.

>>149695651
it would probably be weird if you where in contact with any children, i wouldnt worry about it

>>149694238
Despite everything, Steg is one cool fucking dude

>>149694382
Sorry Hank, we won't move on until something drastic happens.

>>149694243
https://youtu.be/cEetsoly67Q

https://youtu.be/KMZO2_xndzY

>>149694171 (OP)
It would be less toxic if Rebecca was allowed her self insert ship

>>149695942
Pearl would absolutely be less of a cunt if she got dicked down and stopped dreaming about her dead crush

>>149694238
According to nothing.

>>149695972
She's a massive cuckold, she literally sang about how she lost because her crush slept with numerous men. Honestly I get why Peridot never respected her

>>149695942
>>149695972
>>149696409
something tells me that pink foresaw pearl stealing greg for her and went all in for him.
imagine if pearl gave greg a chance to actually talk and see what pink saw in him, only for pearl to fall in love with him and cuck pink back for once.

>>149694171 (OP)
Of course, it was arguing very hard in favor of "It's okay for children to spend all their time with weird adults that aren't their parents"

>>149696409
I want to bury my face in Peridot's hair and take a deep whiff, inhaling the rich scent of her shampoo.

>>149696469
pearls are programmed to be cucks, it makes sense that the diamonds would make them that way so that they are always serving them no matter what.
Peridot was 100% right about her and that's why she got so upset and chimped out at Peri, she's super insecure about the fact that she was always a servant despite claiming she serves nobody
>>149696524
Peri would have an absolutely exquisite smell

Every few weeks, Steven Universe fans come out of the woodwork and act like their show was perfect and the only people who ever complained were rapists and nazis. I guess the wave of nostalgia is hitting finally.

>>149696788
The show definitely wasn't perfect but the seethe made it perfect

>>149696504
Yes foster children are a thing

Peridot sex

>>149694171 (OP)
Like any cartoon, attentive parenting influences the outcome on children more than the show's messages itself. I watched plenty of cartoons growing up with morals I didn't always agree with, and my parents treated our taste in shows with relative dignity instead of acting like it was all mindless kid to keep me busy Sure their religiosity influenced that a bit, but the outcome of them actively taking an interest in the media I liked and discussed them with me at least made me aware from an early age that just because I'm a fan of something doesn't mean I have to follow everything it says.

>>149694238
If Steg wasn't enough proof that fusion isn't always romantic, then kys.

>>149697571
Even before Steg. There were like 10 fusions that weren't sexually triggered.

>>149697681
True and I get frustrated when coombrained adults insist that it's always sexual. Fusions only represent relationships of any kind. Peridot being uninterested in fusion can even represent someone who doesn't desire intimacy of any kind and likes people at a comfortable distance.

>>149694243
The only empathy I've seen from the vocal SU fanbase is performative, muddled with the occasional cultish love-bombing.

>>149697571
NOOOOOO HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO SPREAD BULLSHIT ABOUT PERIDOT BEING AROACE

>>149697765
Better Idea: Peridot is not interested in fusion, Instead, the guacamole gremlin is all in on having sex with humans after unrestricted access to the internet shows her all the things that we like to do with one another. Peridot can't shapeshift, so gets Lapis to poof her so she can reform with all the working parts.

>>149694171 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxILP4a2t40dAYkuQPmMayczL1V0xkLXlz

>>149697797
This, Peridot is built for my BWC

>>149697823
Made for couch sex when cuddles turn to petting during the boring parts of a movie.

>>149697837
I like to think it would be awkward at first with Peridot not knowing what to do and I guide her along

>>149694467
I was gonna argue against this but they even have the cult of personality and the unifying cult of nation

>>149697848
Possibly with mishaps where Amethyst's suggestions lead to misunderstandings about how things work.
>Amethyst recommends anal
>Peridot follows instructions
>gets way into it, going for hours with butt stuff
>panics when anus won't close
>demands Steven use his healing spit
>new traumatic even for him to talk to his therapist about

>>149694565
Have you considered that it's a good show

Aren't Gems going to be a major detriment to the local Delmarva economy? Many people will be out of Jobs as Gems can just do all of their work for free, and most likely 24/7.

>>149697934
Kek, thanks for the laugh anon

>>149698018
Nothing in this show was thought about by the creators for more than 5 minutes.

>>149694243
Then why the hell are the SU fanbase the complete opposite of that?
Those niggas have been some of the most hateful SOB's ive ever seen.

>>149698082
Because if you support "just" causes, you have every right to be mean to people. How can a someone who stands for good things be a bad person?

>>149694243
Acceptable people are accepted naturally. Only unacceptable people have to demand it and legislate it.

>>149698082
>>149698102
That's the reason I roll my eyes at the 'Superman inspiring people again' and 'Kindness is punk rock'
No. Kindness is another fashion of the week for these people as they hurl death threats and doxxing people they hate for asinine political reasons

>>149698129
Who cares what internet grifters are doing how do YOU feel about it? How does it make YOU feel. Jesus fucking christ! Not everything needs to be about confirming or denying some social meta fuck! Goddamn you people.

>>149698082
>>149698102
>>149698129
>baby's first big fandom
They are all like this. Yes, all. No popular thing is special in its badness compared to others. Star Wars nerds in the 70s were the same. Every popular thing will have idiots making everyone look bad. There are almost 10 billion people in the world.

>>149698082
Where? I have seen nothing but baby-tier shit. What are you people talking about

>>149694171 (OP)
Between the terrible pacing, lack of foresight/quality control, townie episodes nobody gave a shit about, and constant hiatuses, IdPol is one of the lesser of this shows problems

>>149698226
No of those things are. Especially one rewatch. You people are all fucking crybabies.

>>149698226
None of those things are. Especially on rewatch. You people are all fucking crybabies.

>>149698129
No one cares you cry baby bitch. You're a faggot that no one will ever love if you are triggered seeing Superman saving a fucking squirrel and Mansplaining you that being good to people is punk because in reality most of us are selfish pieces of shit that you hate being reminded about.

>>149694238
Steg should just be his own character unrelated to Steven Universe and should've gotten more than a single song to make Pearl cum with. I want to see this dude just beat the shit out of Jasper or some other gem.

>>149698619
Steg would just fuck Jasper straight.

>>149698082
Cause the people that happens with aren't the kids who watched the show, it's the manchildren who are incapable of growing up or having any self awareness.

>149698617
Oh look, a 'kind' person
Way to show him retard

>>149694171 (OP)
You're a fucking retard

>>149698957
thanks for proving my point

>>149694171 (OP)
Is a tranny allegory isn't it?

>>149694198
I wish people here were consistent about this. It's like untold psychic damage is done by seeing fags in media, but violence in media has no effect. Video games guide you through violence, make you partake in violence, reward you for violence, but somehow the "cartoons turn kids gay" crowd has nothing to say about any of that. Some may even advocate for free speech in video games.

>>149694171 (OP)
It taught me when a story goes to shit so it's not that

>>149700013
Adding to this: it's likely because they disagree with gay marriage and see the grooming as ideological, like seeing gays in media make them okay with gay marriage and that will make things awkward with mom and dad who don't believe in it. The parents are prepared to dig their heels in and let their child resent them. In that way, SU can influence kids to disagree with their parents, but disliking a show for that reason brings up questions of "what are they disagreeing about?" and then "what's wrong with gay marriage?" It's not like violence where the topic is less ambiguous and universal; you can less awkwardly talk about when violence is okay than you can as to why gay marriage is wrong.

>>149698082
Those are mostly unstable fan artists and shippers and they shouldn’t reflect everyone who likes the show

>>149700191
schizo stuff

the
>we dindu nuffin and everyone hates us
shit is getting old, the truth is that an accurate metaphor would be someone taking a huge dump on the dinner table, demanding respect and then crying about nobody respecting you. I think it's hilarious really, in a really vague sense it's not any different what the blumph gang are doing to you. Both sides being completely oblivious to why others hate them while going out of their way to ruin and hurt others.

It's almost like the whole situation is a big karmic joke.

>>149700545
You're not describing anything that's happening, you're talking about your feelings. Be specific.

I can help you out further: Ben Shapiro has said that by "grooming" the right never meant "sexually grooming" but ideological grooming. Is that true?

>>149698617
Shut your fucking mouth you stupid Gunn wanker, you have zero empathy for flyover states wrecked by disasters

>>149700632
Dude you're so full of crap. Progressives have been crying about marginalization for well over a decade, and that's while they have backing from major institutions. There's no marginalization or persecution. You're simply deluded like the people that are crying about Christianity being under attack. Major tech industries like IBM are run by people sympathetic to your movement. You pretend to be the little guy while it's as far away from reality as it can be.

If you're just going to pretend that there's nothing nasty about the progressive movement and expect me to bring the receipts then you're clearly not interested in making amends in the slightest, and I do hope that your delusions of persecutions become reality because the movement deserves all the backlash it gets and more.

Have a nice day.

>>149694171 (OP)
No child watched this show. It was nothing but college aged failures. That's why a WEG for it exists.

>>149694238
Not true. The Adams Family mentioned their incest filled family tree.

>>149701237
steven universe was meant for so much more...I am sad it was wasted like that.
at least we got a high quality game out of it.

>>149701212
Most people who complain about representation and especoally racial diversity in american cartoons are brown. I don't take their backlash against themselves seriously. They're angry and embarrassed that they're depicted with dark skin instead of having their caste system fantasies validated when that bullshit needs to be culled anyway, and kept out of america as much as possible.

>>149695972

I wanna plow the Cortesan.

>>149701354
The people that complain about representation are schizophrenic Karens, let's be real. If it were "browns" as you insist the discourse would be a lot more overtly racist and amusing.

Though that shit doesn't really matter, at least not directly. The real cancer is shit like workplace quotas and things that affect the actual livelihood of people. Though if everyone is just going to give the stock answers of "you're imagining things" and "it was all just a big misunderstanding" then what's the point of even trying to discuss anything? I'll just pretend that nothing is happening, as I've been conditioned to do that and get by as usual.

>>149701212
You're changing the subject trying to justify your feelings and telling me the vibes need to be right with me before you answer basic questions. You're not even describing what you find nasty, this all started because the topic of "influence" was meant to be clarified by comparing it to the influence of games and then to get more specific there as to what kind of influence are you talking about while keeping in mind the lack of emphasis on or even belief in the influence of video games.

It's on you to be clear about the topic and you're talking about grievance with tangential narratives and asking those to be addressed first.

>>149698129

They were kindsa right tho.

Being Virtuous is the new Punk. But it is trully evident why they chose that crappy band (I don´t remember if it was the Doors or Crabs or.. whathever the fuck) for Supes. It´s corpo Punk. Easy punk.

Because in this world. It is far more easier to be nice than being trully kind.

They want Kindness to be a synonim with Nice. And being Nice is "Tolerant" "Respectfull" "Aknowledgefull" "generous" "selfless" and a lot of nu-age values.

Personally, I´m glad people like Spermam again... so I can get them into real stuff that makes them apreciate what true good is like. So they realise that being TRULLY a good person is more transgressive than being nice.

Nice is Lukewarm

Good is Boiling hot.

VIRTUOUS is Red Hot!

>>149701472
It's karens only when it involves representation of their latest white self insert character being in a ship they dont like. In other cases it's browns.

>>149695972
You can add that to the list of ways Pink Diamond fucked up Pearl. When she admitted to fantasizing about their life together as lesbian gems just living free and gay as fuck, Pink told her to never stop.
When you take into account that a Diamond's commands are instinctively followed, the whole show gets a thin layer of psychological dread. IE How many Gems actually chose to follow, and how many were subconsciously responding to a Diamond's domination?

>>149701472
You've been given multiple opportunities to be clear but you're refusing. Likely because you have strong feelings and don't want their validity challenged. You want to be validated first without having to first address the subject.

>>149701329

WHen I was a kid.. I thoguht it would be the Star Wars of my generation.

And in retrosect it could´ve been the Dragon Ball of our generation EASY (going rom slice of life vanilal epidoes to high stakes serialization)

But the tihng is... that wasn´t the vision of the Crewniverse... they never cared as much as we did.

For so much to saying they loved Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, Utena and else. They sure didn´t got it. Otherwise the show would´ve been influenced a lot more.

Thing is... The greatest haters of Steven Universe. Were once their greatest fans...

These feeligns don´t come out of spite. But out of betrayal..

>>149701569
Superman is punk because he defied the state and corporate run superheroes to do what's clearly right. Lex and the US government, in the end hate that they can't control him and they rely on injustice to thrive.

>>149701688

You get it man! :D

Hopefully the movie came out MOSTLY fine. I just hope that it doesn´t get worse over time...

>>149701525
Ballsy of you to say that right after trying to reframe discussion by bringing up something a washed out pundit has said.

In the same vein, what do you think the famous far left breadtuber Vaush meant when he said that the "Age of consent should be lowered." Surely there's a reason that isn't unhinged behind it. Can you answer that?

>>149701658
I am being clear. Not my fault that English is hard for you.

>>149701671
at least steven white au by chekov got the message clearer...but still no excuse.
once again, it will be up to the fandom to do justice to a fallen show...like always.

>>149701741
I'm trying to define what is meant by grooming. If the topic is the influence of SU, addressing the topics of influence, the common criticism of grooming, trying to narrow it down to two possible meanings (sexual or ideological) by bringing in the Shapiro definition is all on topic. All stemming from the notion of influence broadly, like what do you think about violent video games and the influence there.

I don't think the age of consent should be lowered. Who's Vaush and what did that question have to do with the influence of SU? Is he on Daily Wire+?

>>149701758
What type of influence is being referenced in OP? How does that compare to the influence of violent video games? These questions haven't been answered or addressed.

>>149701569
Kindness is telling the alcoholic to kick his habit and that he's not welcome under your roof until he does. Being "nice" is giving him a place to sleep off his booze coma and a toilet to puke in, but not really saying or doing anything that makes him uncomfortable from his addiction.

>>149701829

Huh... Did WD caused the War in the first place?

>>149701846
Not an area of expertise sadly. Whatever progressives teach children makes them into colossal assholes. I don't know if that falls under grooming.

Whatever you teach that makes people furious with retarded (and misdirected) indignation needs to stop. It's always the middle class that feels the brunt of everything terrible done by social movements (especially riots). Even though it has gotten a bit better now (you target ICE officers instead of fucking up the lives of civilians by burning cities).

Still I don't think you should escape responsibility if you burn someone's car just because the goal is free healthcare. You just make normal people hate you by being like that.

>>149701934
its an au, a well done one at that and the best we have at the moment to act as a proper substitute.
in this timeline/au, white was steven mother.
just read it and you'll see a comic that with each page gets better and better.
I hate shilling but its the best we have had in a while and its been going firm for YEARS.

>>149702008
Is that the influence you think SU has had? Why?

>>149702209
I hope that isn't what that anon means because riots of this nature have existed before any of us were born.

>>149702008
This sounds like that latest Rogan interview that him talking about leftists setting cybertrucks on fire as if it's still happening and as if that's out of nowhere, not spurred on by four nazi salutes between three people at CPAC.

It's been interesting seeing the MMA turned Fear Factor guy having the most popular podcast going "whoa whoa hey now just because all those nazi salutes happened at the biggest conservative convention after the billionaire I supported won doesn't mean you should spray paint swastikas on their cars six months ago calm down everyone!"

>>149695942
>gets reprogrammed to have an attachment to greg and memories regained by watching a superhuman fusion of greg and steven

>>149694243
This is probably bait but I'll take it anyway, I've seen Steven Universe fans bully a girl into suicide for drawing rose quartz too thin, I would hardly call that empathy and acceptance.

They use the idea of "being good" (specifically in a performative sense) as an excuse to be hateful or excluding to anyone who doesn't fit that criteria. DESU I don't think it was intentionally by the show's design given the episode with Carl's VA/Greg's brother had a "be cool to your relatives even if they're bigoted dickheads because only love can make a person less bigoted" message, but they did introduce impressionable children/teens to 2014 tumblr-era identity politics that are founded on the idea that change is impossible in a human being and that bad or "impure" people can never change their ways. I know it's a fedora-tier take but a lot of fundamentalists do the same thing.

>>149702500
I blame the deadbeat dad epidemic. People yearn for the security of an older/bigger man stating empty platitudes about the world as if they know everything. It makes them feel safe and tucked in at night. That's why these grifters keep getting a platform. People want a dad.

>>149702817
>but they did introduce impressionable children/teens to 2014 tumblr-era identity politics that are founded on the idea that change is impossible in a human being and that bad or "impure" people can never change their ways.
What the fuck are you talking about? Leftist thought on crime and punishment is rehabilitation. The rightwing thought is that crime and evil are innate; belief in hierarchy often leans genetic in that there are inherent qualities in people that makes the beyond rehab, they can't be changed.

>>149701569
>Selflessness and respect are nu-age values
These virtues have been extolled since before Rome you fucking twit

>>149694836
Why do people support that kind of fascism when they would inevitably be thrown into slave-labor work camps (or executed as part of social cleansing) if it actually came about?

>>149702500
At least you admit that it happened. Imagine if I was as retarded as you are.
>"uhh Blumpf fucked those kids centuries ago why are you still binging it up? I don't understand why u so mean about this?"
fucking sociopathic piece of shit

>>149697848
peridots have no cleavage

>>149701599
>how many were subconsciously responding to a Diamond's domination?
Kind of makes the whole ending of Steven telling all the gems they are "free" and dismantling the empire kind of murky in retrospect.
are all the gems actually free, or are they simply following the orders of their new Pink Diamond Steven to act "free"?

>>149701914

Spot. The Fuck. On. You get it too.

That´s why I saay being Nice is easier than being Kind.

>>149702181

Thank you. I´ll be looking at it pretty soon. And I hope it´s better than the canon one.

>>149703089
You're showing you operate off a series of retarded assumptions you hold as fact. Even as things don't go the way you think they will, you're spring-loaded with more assumptions. You're making yourself miserable.

>>149703081

The way I put the quotation marks is key. When I wrote "Selflessness" and "Respect", I was meaning in the way most Race and Gender activism expect submission and entitledment to a lot of things.

That´s what I meant. I haven´t born yestarday!

>>149703312
A fascist society would never tolerate neckbeards who play videogames all day, like me, so I will never support it. A fascist society would repurpose me to work unpaid in a factory assembling iPhones or be shot. Even if you don't like people who aren't like you, a fascist society isn't going to give you what you want.

>>149694171 (OP)
I never any children who watched Steven Universe. Did meet an adult fan who told me about his suicide attempt.

>>149703387
There's the fascist dream that once the unions are dead and there is a hierarchy of white males who only get work, the billionaires will be your friend, they'll take care of you. But why should they? They took your options, they control you more, you don't have the ability to negotiate and unionize.

>>149703420
It was pretty shit but I don't think it was quite that bad.

>>149703478
Exactly, like, yes, the fascist state they want to support WILL get rid of all the mexicans and the black people, in some fashion, whether that's "send them back" or "send them to hell", but what then? It's just going to be that you'll be shot if you're not ready for work at 8am. Alright, I don't wanna get banned for "off-topic", so I'll let it go, but it bugs the fuck out of me. Fascism is an ouroboros, and as a wise man once said, "the snake who swallows its' own tail eats shit"

>>149703478
The schizo stories you people make up are hilarious.

>>149703554
That's the history of fascism in Italy and Germany. Also limiting the work force to only males of a specific race does sound like a way to improve conditions for males of a certain race, it's part of the appeal, but historically it's still a race to the bottom, so now you're in the fields working for minimum.

>>149703598
...

eeeeeeehhhhhh. I think you´re just looking oput for straws. Germany I guess you´d havea point. Hitler mostly used the population disdain for the Banker class and in general, the people who benefitiated from the Versailles Treaty.

But Italy? Mussolini more or less wanted destroy the newborn monarchy of a country that took too long to get unified, only to make himself the new leader under deliriums of grandure, and making the population side with them out of clacism and even xenophobia too. (The narrative of the South v.s North)

So I think it will allways be true that Socialism is just Fascism´s twin sibling.

>>149703712
You post all that while glancing over the fact the economic elite, the tycoons, supported fascism in Italy and Germany specifically to oppose socialism and unions. National Socialist is like saying The People's Democratic Party of North Korea.

>>149703598
call me when they try to resurrect the corpse of Mussolini

>>149694238
monkey kong