Thread 149725000

wait what

Okay, wait, that's... Lemuel?

>>149725034
No, it's an entirely new soud we never met before having flashbacks about Lemuel

>>149725000 (OP)
The ending he deserves.

>>149725000 (OP)
So in the world of unsounded you can literally open a can of whoop-ass?

>>149725175
You should have read ashley's blog posts. Cutter and baston's master specialized in distilling pain in all it's forms from the khert.

>>149725000 (OP)
just loading that right into the cock, huh.

>>149725000 (OP)
hehehe benis

I didn't notice he was packing that dicks got to be 10 inches.

>>149725000 (OP)
oh no not the pain juice

>>149725000 (OP)
Every time I see vampire talk to someone about Roger the more it feels like he manipulated and used him. Poor guy tortured himself for this man

>>149725258
better than a painis cupcake

>>149725000 (OP)
You can't slip that penis by me Cope

All right lads I'll be the designated shill. Y'all have backed the Kickstarter right?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project/description

>>149725256
How else would Leysa have been able to move on

Huh, I'll be quite surprised if the story heads to Durlyne but leaves Lemuel behind.

>>149725000 (OP)
Always wash your hands after touching the aldish. Twice if it's a soud.

>>149725000 (OP)
>pain

>>149725000 (OP)
I was expecting something like this. It didn’t look like Lemuel was making it out of the city during the Crescian counterattack. I actually wondered if Ashley was just gonna kill him offscreen. This is a bad spot though. You can’t imagine the Crescians have much incentive to keep any of these Alds alive. Maybe a prisoner exchange?

>>149725256
How can you tell?

Website comment:
>A familiar face? But looking terribly unfamiliar. And in some terrible straits. I’m going to skip Friday’s update to make up for Monday’s dump! BUT–

>The print book Kickstarter is LIVE! [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project]


>Pledge now for professionally printed editions of the first two books of Unsounded featuring brand new covers and bonus material - and eventually a place in actual stores! If these sell well, we can get the whole series archived in print and on your shelves. We can do it! I want you to have these books!

>-Ashley

Patreon comment in separate post due to character limit

>>149725418
Patreon comment:
>I knooooow what I said on Tumblr, but I hadn't finished drawing the entire page yet, and then I got to the very last panel and the opportunity was THERE so how could I NOT. It doesn't feel exploitive because it's isolated and not sexily framed. All it's doing is punctuating his dehumanization. I mean look at that sign on the wall. These prisoners are not being treated with compassion.

>Anyway, good luck, Captain. We'll catch up with you in the future? Or perhaps you'll die down here, tortured to death for the satisfaction and closure of the many people whose lives you wrecked by sacking their city. I wanted to show some of them watching this through a window, but it didn't gel quite right with what's before and after. We'll do our last scene next, with the kids.

>So man, Kickstarter today! I won't lie, it was harrowing. I'm bad at self-promotion, and the perpetual nagging of reposting the link is probably rough for you to see and it's rough for me to do. I want to make my publisher proud though, so it'll continue for the next few weeks on social media. Please ignore me! I apologise for being annoying!

>But that's just my dumb ass whining-- Thank you everyone who pledged! The thing was funded so frigging quickly that I thought the site was erroring out or was checking the wrong dashboard. It's already almost at 70k which is just baffling. That's less than 24 hours and it's almost at the TOTAL of what my last KS was. It's neat to think of us getting new friends and readers. I hope people unfamiliar with the comic will see it trending, and give it a try :)

>I'd really appreciate any reposts, reblogs, retweets, or simple link spreading! Thank you, lovelies :) It'll be over soon haha (kill me)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project

>>149725413
The location of the tip.

This is a wild page to drop the Kickstarter update on Ash. No wonder payment processors hate you. Thanks for the fan service. Please don't hurt him too badly.
>>149725331
Yeah, I'm curious how this turns out. It doesn't feel like Lemuel's arc should be done here, but I suppose that the story technically doesn't need him moving forward. Miki can explore life having grown up with him for a dad, but without him to protect her from the realities of being a soud woman. Duane has already found out the truth of the night he was murdered and made his peace. All that really leaves is how Lemuel dying affects Leysa and Simon, and whatever the story could have done with Lem himself.
>>149725316
Of course, within the first five minutes. And all the commission slots were long gone.
>>149725175
Think of it like a bottled smoke eel of all the very worst days, stripped of any context. The same at Uaid or Timofey are made of but stripped down from any useful context and instead just pure, raw sensation.

>>149725000 (OP)
>those wounds on his elbows and knees
Real sus. And Lem's packing a fucking log wtf? A sincere RIP for Duane's hog. Naturally Duane's must have dwarfed Lem's.
Now, just a wild theory but what if they find a way to fix the extra port problem and put Duane in Lemuel's body? That would be some irony, eh?

>>149725239
Or collecting therein.

>>149725345
I wonder what the reason is. Do they think they can catch being Aldish? Are they scared of the weeping plague? Worried about pain juice getting in their eyes?

>>149725443
According ashley that's a stupid thing to do. People were a while back theorizing about that happening with roger. The problem with the soul in the universe is that it's gets overwritten by a living mind. So he'd just turn into the person who's body he's inhabiting.

>>149725279
I think you’ve got to keep in mind both things are possible: Vampire was a coldhearted bastard who’d been trying to crack Alderode for centuries, and doubtless suffered and perpetrated many cruelties in that time, and he sincerely loved Roger. He admits the latter to his own subordinate with no audience around: he’s not playing up to anyone when he confesses it. But he’d experienced the Etalarche curse before, knew his love wasn’t up to it, and probably put the destruction of Alderode well above either his or Roger’s wellbeing. The worst I think you can say is he likely had much more of an inkling of what Roger’s fate would be like post-curse than Roger did, even if he did not foresee Ruck.

>>149725438
It looks pretty normal to me. Are you just used to people being cut?

>>149725239
It's been weeks too. Crazy how Lemuel hasn't yet seemed to be even more insane after this torture.

>>149725433
>It doesn't feel exploitive because it's isolated and not sexily framed
Oh yeah yeah for sure the rugged unkempt blonde man with the body of a Greek god in defiant bondage isn’t framed sexily at all.

>>149725000 (OP)
I want to start reading this. Is there a way to download this whole comic to read at once, or am I only going to be able to read page at a time?

>>149725000 (OP)
I can see how things are going to get out of hand with Miki if Lemon's MIA and stuck in the cock and ball torture machine.

>>149725488
I'm used a dick not reaching 4 inches down someone's leg. Like I don't think you understand the perspective of the location in proportion to the base.

>>149725000 (OP)
Ahhh fuck Lem you couldn't have used your rocket boots to get out of Grenzlan?

>>149725504
The kickstarter is up and you can get the pdf other than that you have to read the webcomic if you don't want to pay.

>>149725504
There is web integration to a few segments, just read it on the website.

>>149725504
Can you only read comics in long strip format or something?

>>149725440
The real money is that Leysa husbandless and Mikaila patronless and potentially pushed out of their ghers is probably even more of a nightmare for Duane to witness than Lemuel as the head of household. That’s why I wondered if Lem might legitimately have died off-panel.

already 166% funded and it's not even been a day, excellent work
how nice of Ashley to grace us with a bit of torture to celebrate the occasion :)

>>149725529
Only way out was through the tunnels.

>>149725542
It depends on Lem's connections willing to help them but they seem fucked.

>>149725568
>Lem's connections
Yeah they're fucked.

>>149725476
He was old enough that he probably had a much better idea of what efheby were like. He might have been around before they were hunted to near extinction. It's true that he didn't know the plan would involve an efheby until pretty late in the game, but he still enthusiastically led a much younger man who he professed to love down a path of both total societal damnation and total soul oblivion. Roger would have known what the efheby involved too, but he would have had a less clear idea of just how bad it was, I suspect. Roger definitely had every reason to think that post-curse Mallory was the real man, and that the love was an act. And I don't think it's entirely dishonest to say either. He definitely enjoyed Roger, and I do think he loved him, but that enjoyment was far secondary to Mallory's other goals. And if you put someone's well-being that far below other ambitions, even noble ones, it's questionable how meaningful that love might have been.
>>149725504
I don't understand the problem. The entire comic is available for free, without ads or any other interruptions. All you have to do is click forward. What would a download improve?

>>149725493
I mean rounding up the prisoners and shipping them back here probably took a week or two. The real question is why take prisoners. The Cresce-Alderode war doesn’t seem like the kind of conflict that keeps PoWs, Cresce already broke what passes for Geneva conventions in-setting using plods in the attack, they deliberately killed rather than capture the people who would have the best intel under interrogation during the attack (the two Coppers), and every prisoner is a proven murderer and rapist of the Crescian people. Why not just slit all their throats?

>>149725568
Lem himself kinda seemed like the only thing holding Miki back from fucking herself.

>>149725568
It’s not looking good when we know Argenti is a bastard, that Lem’s direct superior threatened to scapegoat him and that Lem himself warned Mikaila how soon the bloom would come off the rose if they started losing.

>>149725605
pretty clearly torturing him for information, or some such

>>149725605
The queen has a plan. Cruel and terrible.

>>149725542
I think it's very likely that, at least, Lemuel won't be coming home any time soon. Miki being forced to grow into a role she's been allowed to ignore, possibly by someone far less forgiving of her antics, is going to create quite a lot of conflict. Whether that someone would be a suitor, a surrogate father, or a concerned member of the ghers. Leysa having to be a legitimately strong and independent woman in a society where there aren't really allowed to be strong, independent women, having to reign in her daughter, having to step up to find a way to provide for her family, could be poignant and compelling. I just thought it would be interesting to see Lemuel interacting with the men he now would have known to betray him, and having his own arc, even if it wasn't necessarily growth. I'm not sure we have much chance of getting that now.
>>149725614
I think it was more that he was holding her away from the consequences while allowing her to run rampant. Now the consequences are going to start to bear down, and the pressure is going to start to amp up. It's going to be on Leysa to sort things out (or Miki herself).

>>149725585
>efheby
I don’t even mean that really. Just in setting Roger up to suffer the curse. He actually says having experienced it he’s too much of a coward to bear it himself, and they have that wee exchange where Roger is like ‘our love is stronger <3 <3’ and Vampire is like ‘uh no’. He must have known Roger getting Etalarche’d would no doubt lead to a terrible end for him, even if he didn’t know exactly how.

Now I don’t necessarily believe he kept that from Roger, and I could well believe Roger committed himself to that, but we could definitely argue some problematic age-gap romance between a 400 year old copper with full knowledge of the horror and the boy he was romancing. I think saying his priority was the plan over either his or Roger’s wellbeing is accurate.

>>149725634
Yeah maybe, but that doesn’t really gel with deliberately killing the Coppers held at spellpoint.

>>149725605
You think a country that would break their equivalent of a Geneva convention would balk at taking POWs to torture? Especially people like you describe who they might want to get revenge on? Or high ranking officers who might have useful intel? Who would stop them? The queen? I'm case you haven't noticed she just barbecued her husband for the crime of being an Ald. And next she plans to engineer a final solution to the problem of Alderode.

>>149725711
I’m just looking for the use case. If this is we took Aldish prisoners just so the public could vent their frustrations by seeing them tortured then sure, that’s a use case. I’m just mentioned the GC to say that even the in-setting rules of war were out the window in the attack we saw.

>>149725665
I remember Ashley hinting that Leysa had much more conservative views about this whole thing.

>>149725665
I don’t see any legitimate avenue in Aldish society where Leysa can prevent Mikaila from being married off, forced to stop pymary etc. There’s no other living close male relative in the family to take authority. Simon must be a teenager now I suppose, but we have seen suspiciously little of Simon.

>>149725239
Its the semi-automatic dick punching machine, thats why his knees are raw.

>>149725685
I agree. But I don't doubt that he didn't do as much as he should have to discourage Roger from believing that. For two reasons: it was useful to the overall plan to maintain his naivete, so that he wouldn't falter from the task at hand. And because it was a pleasant diversion to have such an idealistic and naive lover who he could, for a while, forget what would befall the two of them and allow himself to indulge in his best world. Mallory never had a plan to escape with Roger to Cresce before the curse took effect, but he sure allowed Roger to believe it. He loved him, undoubtedly. But in a very selfish way. Interestingly, I think you could argue the reverse as well: that his love was much more pure and untainted, because he entrusted Roger so much with such a terrible task, to see it through to the end, and to bring about such an important and meaningful change to their world. And did everything he could to help him make that come true, even knowing he himself wouldn't get to see that would come to fruition Whichever interpretation you choose, their dynamic is interesting and deeply tragic. But in both cases, there was undoubtedly more than a little manipulation.

Ufal is still better.

>>149725738
Capture of militants just happens during war. It's not something that was invented in the 20th century. Depending on what the captors want, they could find a use for the prisoners. Or they could not. In this particular case, Lem was deemed useful as a prisoner. Acting like PoWs in Unsounded are some sort of extraordinary scenario that needs extraordinary explanation is a very strange premise for an argument.

>>149725806
I’m not attacking the comic here or anything dude, nor am I demanding an extraordinary explanation. I’m just saying from what we saw of the attack the Crescians were neither interested in gathering intelligence nor taking prisoners, so it’s interesting to see some effort taken to capture and imprison Lemuel.

>>149725738
The same use cases you see in real life in modern times and history alike: revenge, setting an example, cowing people with fear, experiments, information extraction, shows of power, to please a captive audience, because they can, because the cost of staying your hand for a man you don't know and don't care about is too high.
>>149725758
>>149725770
I doubt Leysa would actually stop the ghers following through on the natural progression of what Miki 'should' be experiencing as a proper Soud lady, but with how much she has been allowed to roam free the ghers might be looking at making an example out of her like Lemuel's ghers did with him: marrying her to a brute of a man who WILL control her, for example. Leysa might try to step in to convince them to give her time to get Miki back under her thumb and married off to someone presentable, respectable, and paradoxically more likely to give Miki some of the freedom she craves. Not enough to satisfy her, but something.

dumb and soulless.

The Adeliers look better with a little facial hair.

>>149725834
NTA, but at the end of the day, he's right. POWs and torture happens because (some) people are shit and feel like it should happen and enough other people are either complacent to allow it, ignorant that it isn't helpful, or ignorant to care. The reality is there are near infinite ways that this can realistically happen and it is likely a little of all of them were at play here. Even if you don't think Unsounded is crazy or bad for it, it just happens. It's like asking why the author made her characters speak.

>>149725848
>Leysa might try to step in to convince them to give her time to get Miki back under her thumb and married off to someone presentable, respectable, and paradoxically more likely to give Miki some of the freedom she craves.
This will backfire spectacularly with Miki's teenage obstinacy because HOW DARE YOU TRY TO CONTROL ME MOM. A heavy-handed husband is in her future, but Alderode might burn before she's wed

I always wondered why the victims of the Etalarche curse don’t hate themselves.

>>149725901
Yep. That's exactly how I see it playing out too.

>>149725901
Oh, it absolutely will. I'm sure Miki is going to fuck up so hard trying to do a teen rebellion.

>>149725834
Supposedly they found Lem alive, buried under a pile of crow zombies or otherwise incapacitated. Why not take him prisoner? Your assumption that the go-to solution during war is to slit the throats of every non-friendly you come across is simply unfounded.

>>149725917
They do. But they don't hate themselves magically, every single person they ever loved turning against them, and anything they've ever stood for does it the old fashioned way. What would be worse, to magically hate yourself, or to ride the slow, self-doubt filled descent into self-loathing because everyone you loved is so certain you're horrible, that every ill is all your fault, and well, maybe, just maybe they're right? And we can't have you killing yourself until the curse has spred forth from your body enough to affect the others and poison your name, so by the time it's really effecting you, you'll have an angry crowd with pitchforks at your door. And maybe, if you're lucky, the adrenaline will help delay the self-loathing from setting in when you see just who it is that's leading them.

>>149725928
bruh, this is really getting on my tits. Sure, that sounds completely reasonable.

I was simply saying that, given the modus operandi of the attack on Grenzlan was:
>get zombies to murder and eat all the aldishmen
And given we saw two Coppers, who were specifically there to reprogramme the mysterious dammakhert, get captured and then immediately be fucking murdered RATHER than get tortured and interrogated, it was interesting to see Lemuel be tortured and (presumably) interrogated.

I wasn't trying to say
>oh it's so STUPID that lemuel is captive and being tortured. This is such BAD WRITING
I'm just saying we saw the attack and it looked like the Crescians were out for blood, not prisoners. Of course in the less heated aftermath they might have ended up with some captives, fine.

>>149725855
And with just a dash of despair.

>>149725928
Plus if they know enough about the Etalarche to know that Souds aren't affected he might have been seen as being easier to deal with.

>>149725901
Older Mikaila seemed a touch more realistic.

>>149725973
I think the reasoning of why Lem instead of the secret keepers is a fairer question. And I think the answer there is simple: Lem was there at the end, pretty much by himself, when everyone and everything else had already been taken. It was easier to kill him than to subdue, but not by that much, and he still would have been a high value prize given his position in the military. The secret keepers were there too early into the fray, it was easier to kill them than subdue by a lot. And while learning what they know of the dammakhert would be a great boon, they had the tools to reverse engineer it right there at their disposal, so it was simply not important enough to maintain them.

>>149725000 (OP)
IS THAT A PENIS?!

>>149726017
just the tip

>>149725256
Who's gonna write the Lemuel/Duane NTR sph cuck porn?

>>149725000 (OP)
well old friend they need us once again
https://youtu.be/kMpRVY1imzM?si=9gDws-tSDTGnWGHg&t=14

>>149725996
Remember, we've only seen teen Miki with free reign unrivaled by any Aldish girl, and with a (literal) cult following. Her first father an exceptional, local soud hero, whose memory has shielded her from many social norms. Her second father, a locally powerful man whose deep guilt and desire to stick it to the man (so much so that he wanted to go on a suicide mission to kill God) has allowed her to do as she please without any check.

Without Lemuel there, with Miki at home now, with her getting older, and with so much civil unrest and soud population issues, the ghers will be looking to get her to settle down. And Miki will absolutely not cooperate. She will be every bit the problem she was as a child, and then some. And they won't want other soud women to follow in her footsteps, or to be seen as soft on her. There won't be a man of the house to stay their hand.

This will mean the only thing between them and Miki is Leysa. And she will be in the impossible position of trying to buy Miki a better future and better husband than she is earning herself, and trying to buy Miki's cooperation, all while stifling her every freedom (at least to Miki's tastes who has grown up knowing no boundaries) when in reality, she's trying to be helping her.

Realistic or not, she's still a kid who hasn't experienced anything like this and has no frame of reference for it. She has been raised to think she's exceptional and the rules don't apply. And it's entirely developmentally appropriate for her to be a little rebellious shit before all that anyway.

>>149725000 (OP)
I spy a wild hog in the last panel.

I wonder what getting undiluted triple-distilled pain injected directly into your dick feels like.
I bet it probably feels pretty good.

>>149726033
Have you guys never seen Duane x Leysa? He's hung too. Nothing about the Adeliers is small.

>>149726067
>He's hung too
Was hung. No way that bit survived the seagulls.

>>149725256
>>149726033
>>149726067
I'm not gonna torture myself by using tumblr's search to try to find it, but Ash once said Leysa forbid Duane from using glut because he was already big enough that he would've been at risk of not fitting anymore

>>149726076
Probably stuffed more than a few birds along the way.

>And they stopped their torturing so they could listen to the speech and execution, and there is just something so cozy to me about that.
I'm not giving Ashley enough money with my current pledge. A woman after my own heart.

>>149726122
The radio point is kind of nutty though. We've seen a lot of struggles to communicate and non-radio communications.

>>149725000 (OP)
I hope that body on the table isn't Captain Claggart.

>>149726130
We've been stuck out in the middle of nowhere and with soldiers constantly on the move and undergeared, or with criminals who are trying to operate on the outskirts of society as they cross nations. And we've seen instant transmission in the form of print and even storage (and in a few rare cases, man). Instant transmission of sound and even visuals seems pretty believable with the tech they have. In other words, can I edit my pledge to give her more money without losing my early bird free shipping?

>>149725000 (OP)
So will they be injecting the liquid pain up his ass or dick? Is this what Ssael meant by sounding the great Unsounded (A Graphic Novel by Ashley Cope, Casual Villain Productions)?

>>149725473
>So he'd just turn into the person who's body he's inhabiting.
But theoretically Duanes in his special pymeric? I thought we confirmed his heart stopped beating a while back so he's just puppeting his dead corpse like a plod mask would.
It could go Firestorm style, with Lemuel driving the body and Duane providing pymeric support and ghost advice

>>149726183
I think for soud they go with ass, dick and balls simultaneously. It's known as the Tainish Triple Tickle.

>>149726183
I don't actually think the penis goes in there (although knowing the person who developed the groundwork for this tech, and knowing the author it well might). I think the canister goes in there and then the pain courses through the whole body, probably entering initially through the ports.

>>149726202
I haven't looked into this outside of the comic at all, but I kinda figured the pymaric needed to be slotted into the extra port Duane has as a tacit caster and thus would probably not work on anyone who wasn't a tacit caster. Don't they mention something about a specific spinal point to put it in just after he dies?

>>149726211
This is my reading too but it's also way funnier to imagine they just hit his actual dick with liquid pain.

>>149726232
I think we know with 100% certainty that Lemuel's mighty hog will end up unsounded

>>149726232
Looking back at it, the second to last panel does have Lemuel blushing. It's a miracle this crazy fujo has somehow managed to convince a publisher and respectably sized audience that her thinly veiled porno is a respectable piece of literature worth so much time and money. I'm so happy she has.
>>149726249
No, that's Bastion. Lemuel's sexy torture looks different.

>>149726220
Duane can reach out his own girthy extra port and touch it to Lemuels potential port to connect up MasterBlaster style

>4chan’s interface pisses me off too much these days for me to use, but I know you see this, and I love you fuckers. You are so funny and cute.
Ash is adorable. And Unsounded is basically the only reason worth putting up with the terrible posting interface nowadays. Thank you for making this comic for us.

>>149725316
>literally forgot to make sure I woke up early enough for the free shipping hour
was pretty mad about that, but I'll abide

>>149726326
Ashley should probably be a bit more careful mentioned 4chan with a new publisher.

>>149726343
Have you looked through what else they've published? There's actual porn in there. Like half of it. I don't think they care.

>>149726272
>see a new webcomic being published on kickstarter
>google the website
>click on the latest page
>it's cbt
Beautiful

>>149725000 (OP)
>triple zero
damn, the Gods aren't dead after all

I love the pottery of this page. Of Lemuel being cognizant, and appreciating the irony, of seeing Vampire's prediction coming true. The bitter laugh of a man who's got nothing left. Will fulfill his oath? Die twice to save his psychotic, undeserving brother? Tune in next week folks!

>>149726357
I genuinely can't believe I asked my library to pick this up today. Thank God I told them the intended demographic was adults. If they go to check the website between now and Monday they're definitely never buying it. Honestly unless we get a scene change right after there's no chance they buy it if they check for the rest of this week.

Love this comic but I have to say fuck Kickstarter for being such retards about letting her put a link on the campaign page. That really hurts how much exposure the comic is going to get from this. It makes NO SENSE because she literally funded this exact content a few years ago with no drama.

The world has become so gay and childish and it's all because of America and its Christfats.

>>149726385
Libraries don't do Kickstarter preorders. Wait until it's in a storefront and then put in the order.

>>149726202
From what I remember ash said that the pymeric is what's keeping duane's soul together. The issue with that situation is that if a soul gets attached to a body the body overwrites the soul. I believe she said he'd be in a very crazy state while the soul and body where fusing. It was like a year ago though and I'm too lazy to look back that far.

>>149726392
It's not Kickstarter itself. Not directly. It's the payment processors. They're destroying the internet with their bullshit. Yes, all the websites catering to them are also partly at fault, but unless someone comes to offer an alternative at the level of payment processors, they don't really have a choice if they want to stay in business. The internet is in a bad state.

>>149725258
What do you think it tastes like?

>>149726401
I just told them the title, demographic, and why I thought it would be a good addition to their collection. My library has a form to recommend books. But I didn't realize waxing poetic about what a literary and artistic masterpiece, full of wonderful world building, deep characterization, and interesting plot would be thrown back in my face on the very next page she posts.

>>149726442
Cock is the author's crime.

>>149726448
And I'm damn glad for it. But dammit, Ashley. You couldn't wait one page? They better not see this shit.

>>149726476
if they call her out she can just stare them down like a boss and tell them they don't see dick

>>149726416
>It's not Kickstarter itself. Not directly. It's the payment processors.
There's no evidence of that like there is with the current Valve situation. Kickstarter (and Patreon) were being censorious faggots all on their own years ago. It's perfectly possible it's Kickstarter deciding things itself.

>>149726232
So is the reason they wash their hands after contact with Aldish prisoners the same reason you don't jack off after cutting peppers until you've thoroughly washed your hands?

I have been so fucking out of the loop holy shit I haven't caught up in months and only realized the kickstarter was happening by chance

>>149726508
Patreon was doing that shit because of payment processors. They have been at this for years. Other site like Patreon have also been getting hit. Including the Japanese sites so you know it's due to Mastercard/Visa pressure.

>>149726508
Fair enough. But even if it's all on them I'm sure at least part of it is to get ahead of the curve and stay on the good side of the thing that gives them money. No matter what it comes from though, censorship, especially censorship that's near impossible to escape across every platform, is an absolute travesty.
>>149726542
Go back it and then catch up ASAP. We're at the epilogue of the story, then we're stuck waiting until book two. Come join us for the end.

>>149726559
>Patreon was doing that shit because of payment processors.
Citation needed.

Patreon attracted the same sort of mods as a lot of web sites and they were on a campaign of faggotry.

More than half a year later and I'm still in awe of the "Boo, find Sette" bit
What a shame that kind of thing can't translate to a print book the same

>>149726617
Wait what has it really been half a year since then?

>>149726559
its funny that retards are convinced its the processors. they take a percentage, all their profit is by volume. they love charging for porn.
if they freak out is usually because there's some sort of law or fine stopping them from making money

>>149726608
When several of these sites are all banning the same type of content around the same time and one of them drops Mastercard/Visa as a payment option then I think it is safe to say that Mastercard/Visa were behind it.

>>149726644
Not the first time billionaires burn money to try and force behaviors. But it's either that or this is the aftereffects of them getting sued in that Pornhub case.

>>149725000 (OP)
I forgot why they are getting arrested by the Crescians

>>149726673
Even if it was only for a financially motivated act, creating a means to harvest more data for anyone who wants to buy content like this has tremendous financial value. Forcing all platforms to go through a new division they create for 'immoral' art once other processors fall in line generates value and can ruin the competition. Burning money for these is a sound long term investment.

And what do the rich like as much as money? Power. Having the money to do what you like is meaningless if you don't actually have the influence to do it too. So why not burn a little money to enjoy that power? The consequences won't matter, any rules you make won't apply to you.

>>149726699
>6699
I think you know exactly why, Anon.

>>149726723
No I mean in the flashback

>>149726673
>aftereffects of them getting sued in that Pornhub case.
its 100% that, the whole case was about making pornhub/visa/mastercard responsible for illegal shit people were posting on the site
processors have to gauge the risk and are just acting conservatively now that there are a bunch of unstable retards in charge and activists exploiting the system
this is just the latest swing in a decades long effort from religious prudes to ban porn. Remove the threat of fines and Visa/Mastercard would literally charge for anything.

>>149726739
I think it's important to realize that this particular issue is unfortunately not a left/right divide. Both sides are fairly unified in banning 'questionable' media. Not just stuff that's outright illegal, anything they find sexually immoral and that people they think are gross or wrong like. It's just that the things they find sexually immoral are different on each side. And no one is going to want to be known as the guy who saves porn. We're stuck like this.

>>149726673
>When several of these sites are all banning the same type of content around the same time
It's not the same time. Kickstarter and Patreon started down the censorship road years ago. Like I said. That's why I have my doubts that this has anything at all to do with visa, mastercard or the collective shout cunts.

You have no idea either, and you're letting them off the hook with zero evidence.

I wonder if Ashley will have time to do a side story or doodle of POW Lemuel between all the Kickstarter fulfillment. I'm sure she wants to.

>Sweaty Elan Aled and Pant memories appearing to save Emil and Elka and Chea
Cope has too much power, seeing this fucking c-plot character is getting me all emotional

>>149725440

For plot purposes, this could be a powerful motivation for Duane to work with Cresce on this secret mission that was mentioned previously. "Help us out and your brother is released unharmed."

>>149726824
It could, but I don't think there's any real chance they find out about each other being here. They're not going to store their undead mage creature that helped save Cresce and thinks he's Aldish with their generic military POWs. It would take a miracle for Lemuel to make it out alive and right now the only chance he has is that I don't think Ashley would kill him in comic in such a fan servicey way. I think he would die with a little more dignity than that.

Mikaila gettin raped as we speak then?

>>149726934
she left before the attack.

>>149726934
Lemuel sent her away. This is his own private hell now. No one to share it with.

Sincerely cannot wrap my head at all the Lemur stuff anymore

>military prodigy that does elite shit despite being too young
>has the ear of some of the upper echelons of the military from his caste
>has a brother who's buddy-buddy with the actual elites of the caste and literally gives him lessos
>spent almost a decade at this without fucking up or being socially stonewalled for being useless.
>LMAO IM GONNA BE THE CHOSEN ONE ON THIS CIVIL WAR FALSEFLAG BECAUSE THIS SCHIZOWIZARD TOLD ME SO AND I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE I SECRECTLY HATE MYSELF WHILE SMOEHOW BEING A FUNCTIONAL PERSON

Makes no bloody sense

>>149726326
>filtered by captcha

>>149726183
>Is this what Ssael meant by sounding the great Unsounded (A Graphic Novel by Ashley Cope, Casual Villain Productions)?
greatest medical manual of our time

>>149726033
Duane canonically had a gigantic dick. Like, bordering on too big for his wife. To the point that if he'd fucked around with the glut, she wouldn't have let it get anywhere near her any more.

All Adelier men apparently have huge cocks as well as good looks and protagonist energy.

>>149726970
>No one to share it with.
there's at least a dozen other starving not!slavs there with him

guess cope heard my advise and watched them russian war prisoner videos

>>149725605
>Why not just slit all their throats?
The object of torture is torture.

>>149725000 (OP)
sneaky penis!

>>149727060
This makes me seethe with jealousy at fictional characters.

>>149727020
What part of Lemuel reads functional to you? He's a good soldier but he's completely non-functional everywhere else. He loves his family, sure. But he got his brother killed and damned to undeath. Has failed to give his daughter-niece the boundaries she needs to be prepared for a life in an Aldish ghers, instead taking her to the front lines of war and keeping her around a group of rapists who formed a literal cult around her. He wants to find and kill God and thinks he's the man who can make a better, more functional universe. He lights high value prisoners on fire that have important secrets because he doesn't like them. And he gets pissed at his brother for being undead after putting him in that state and then promising to run away with him and take care of him always. Man is extremely messed up. Good in combat does not automatically mean you're good outside it. Not everyone can be Toma.

>>149727026
Probably filtered by the infintiely-respawning 2 minute wait to post that often happens on mobile.

>>149727079
They're doing it wrong. He only got hotter and more 'murder daddy' in their custody.
>>149727091
Think of what poor Jon missed out on. That twink would have been annihilated.

>>149725605
>Cresce already broke what passes for Geneva conventions in-setting using plods in the attack
conventions? Bro Alderode literally kills every male and rapes every female then kills him after they give birth, as *standard conquest protocol*

Alds straight up make Tolkien orcs looks merciful. Shouldn't surprise a soul that Cresce got down to their level, every city conquered is an ethnic cleansing.

The cresce-alderode war is a war of genocide kept cold only because neither nation had the resources to wage it without collapsing.

>>149725328
Pretty sure Ash has said that Duane's was bigger than Lemon's

>>149727063
Yeah but they're no ones. Window dressing. This is Lemuel's show, he's on display in the center stage, sitting in the shiny torture throne. They're just locked up in cages.
>>149727060
Duane also canonically didn't look cool at all and looked very dorky. Lemuel, yeah, he was the typical pretty boy. But Duane? Leysa is lucky she was able to fix him up as much as she did, he looks more handsome in undeath than he ever could in life.
>>149727091
I don't think you would want to be in either of their positions right now.

>>149727129
>sitting in the shiny torture throne
they are putting him in the nazi masturbation machine
its over

>>149727129
>Duane also canonically didn't look cool at all and looked very dorky.
Duane is the Gohan of looking cool. Most of the time he's a dweeb but when you really rub him the wrong way he becomes mega cool for a moment.
>he looks more handsome in undeath than he ever could in life
Pretty sure Cope said Duane was considered handsome for a man of his ghers once Leysa got him dressing and grooming better. Enough that SHE was insecure HE might be tempted to step out. As if.

Duane's least attractive trait is his tendency to go on autistic rants about math, I'm guessing. Well, that and the bowl cut.

>>149727092

>Good soldier

I imagine his superior officers regard him as barely controllable loose cannon, which is why he keeps getting picked for all the reckless suicide missions lol.

>>149727138
I hate that I'm seriously considering submitting something to the fanworks contest about this. I know every detail of how it would play out too.
>>149727150
I think that's just because Leysa was such a nerd that she found his dorkery appealing. Remember, even the hottest version of him still had his religious bowl cut and didn't know how to talk to women. He was handsome enough, but never really conventionally attractive. Leysa just didn't like conventional men, and assumed other women didn't either. Of course, other women might have liked a powerful example of a soud man. But that level soud was still a clueless dork.

>>149727092
>What part of Lemuel reads functional to you?
You don't get to a high position through meritocratic means without being sound of mind and Lemuel's entire history is going "i'm gonna prove them wrong" and doing it.

Man, half the thing you said are situational and sound like trying trying to craft a narrative. Duane returning at that point was an open danger to Lemur's life. Wanting to kill god is just him saying he thinks the world is an shitty state. Mikaila has the means and the choices to straight up fuck off from Alderode, being a literal wizard, if she doesn't like the idea of having a child.

Think a bit more clearly: He became a captain early on and maintained the position without disgracing himself. That takes wit and self control not found on someone suicidal.

Outside the trauma of his first war experience, which led to arguably justifiable lapses of judgement as a coping mechanism until the war is over, the man just doesn't have the history of emotional instability that's lead them to become delusional about his role in the falseflag. Lemuel should have seen the manipulation regarding his role coming and on top of that don't believe a widely mistrusted cult telling him he'd come back from death.

How it happened is just so dumb I can't even feel for the character as he is presented now. Such a weird choice of twist.

>>149726033
BY SSAEL I WILL BEAT YOU WITH 30 SHOES FOR YOUR INSOLENCE

>>149727165
There are three kinds of good soldiers. Ones that follow every order and don't ask too many questions. Ones that follow nearly every order and only ask enough questions to save your ass. And ones that barely follow any orders, frequently worrying you about their allegiance, but can obliterate any obstacle in their path. Lemuel is a good soldier the way an attack dog is a good soldier, indiscriminately.
>>149727215
Anon, he literally wanted to find God and kill him. Personally. And his plan to do this was to get killed and resurrected. Which is impossible in universe, Duane was the first ever example of it and there was no credible reason at all (unless you're Ilganyang or Bastion) to have believed for a moment it would work. Everyone else even slightly in on the plan just figured he (the actual target) would be a plod at best by the end, or dead at worst, but that it would accomplish their goals regardless.

>>149727138
Trust the plan. Soon we'll be so back.

>>149727150
>Most of the time he's a dweeb but when you really rub him the wrong way he becomes mega cool for a moment.
schizo duane is the absolute peak

shit i didn't save the page of him look from an alcove aura farming

>>149727257
Little do they know that pain is his comfort zone.

I don't care HOW hot you make Lemuel, I'm NOT forgiving his villainy!

Okay caught up

...

I still haven't the slightest comprehension of what the whole boobybird/khette/jac/"Man"/First Soul stuff is all about

>>149727092
Lemon, if anything, seems like he really doesn't want Miki there, but doesn't have much of a choice.

From Lem's perspective this has gotta be wild
>guy betrays his family and nation for promises of foreign succor
>gets used for his materials
>gets burned alive in front of a baying crowd of Creshits

>>149725000 (OP)
Bro's dick reaches to mid-thigh and he's flaccid.

>>149727241
>Anon, he literally wanted to find God and kill him. Personally.
that's an hyperbolic fantasy over hating the state of the world / alderode, not an actual thing he was planning to do. You are taking what's basically venting literally.

Lem, anger outbursts aside, was a highly functional person and even a climber in the army ranks. He should have been smart enough to tell he was was being played by his much more socially valuable and actual local hero brother

>he (the actual target)
The actual target got intentionally misdirected from his usual route so he wouldn't interfere?

>>149727285
gods fucked of along time ago
kasslyne is a giant computer
the khert is the motherboard
everyone's a program running on khertware whose OS is certified open source, free as in freedom(tm)
tittybird / "man" hacked the OS, didn't like the result but it didn't matter because "man", being a program, literally died and got replaced with a slightly different copy.
now the OS has a memory leak and shit's getting fucked.

>>149727215
Alderode isn't any more of a meritocracy than America is. Duane made it, but that was dumb luck. A series of events that he almost completely bungled on multiple occasions mixed with the fact he just happened to be born exceptional. Then he worked extra hard to pull his brother up to the same or similar station he received, getting him there through nepotism. And from there he was nearly placed as a composer, not for merit, no, but for politics.

Duane got to go to pymary college because he was born a rare tacit caster and with high intellect. He only developed an interest in that because he got hit in the head as a kid, almost died, and thought God started talking to him so he needed to be a priest. Because of his intellect and tacit casting, and explicitly because of his race, a rich patron of the same race decided who simply wanted to spread his people's influence decided to fund college. And then Duane fucked it all up and got expelled and sent to the army where his talents would be squandered. Made tons of subpar calls that culminated in the death of a comrade, and allowed the boys in his charge to think that his death didn't count, that Jon wasn't one of them.

He and Lemuel then only saved the day because they happened to be the only blondes in the vicinity immune to the mind control curse. Which got the attention of their leader who wrote a letter of recommendation saying hey, you know what, these weird fake Alds are good sometimes.

Duane did a lot of good stuff at times. So did Lemuel. They're both exceptional in their own ways. But so little of where they got was because of any of it and instead in spite of it, down to dumb luck, or thanks to connections. Cresce is much more of a meritocracy than they are, and it is far from it.

>>149727333
>doomed to have soft erections
would kill myself

>>149727125
The real benefit of being a tacit is no one knowing you're using a penis enlargement spell.

>>149727337
>that's an hyperbolic fantasy over hating the state of the world / alderode, not an actual thing he was planning to do. You are taking what's basically venting literally.
No, that was the whole reason Duane died. Because Lemuel thought he was going along with a plan to magically find and kill God. Yeah, as a teen/preteen in war he didn't mean it. But as an adult he explicitly, literally did. It's canon. He both wanted to start a soud revolution and wanted to find God, kill him, and start a new world.
>>149727337
>The actual target got intentionally misdirected from his usual route so he wouldn't interfere?
The actual target as in if he were the actual target as Duane was intended to be, this is what everyone else in on the plan except Bastion expected to happen. No one but Lemuel, who had no real reason to base it off of, believed it would work.

It would be like someone coming up to a group of people and trying to sell them on a perpetual motion device, and 6/7 members of the group go along with the farce because what they expect it to actually do instead will prove useful to the grander scheme and then the last one sincerely believes it will work. Only, for some reason the crazy guy ends up right and it does. That doesn't mean he had foresight and the rest were the fools.

>>149727388
>Because Lemuel thought he was going along with a plan to magically find and kill God.
Why would a man steeped in the realism of both war and local politics, and mantain his position socially, ever believe a literal outcast and his politician / mil friends that he *openly knows they scheme*, could things his pymaric prodigy brother could tell him were impossible in a 5 minutes lecture, specially a brother known to drop lectures on whim.
>It is canon
And I have to call it retarded senpai.

Just let me lament for a bit. It's gonna be the one black stain in Unsounded for me.

>>149727429
*could do things

>>149727125
Sessine WOULD be a size queen.

>>149727165
You're thinking of Rickert. Lemuel would not be allowed to be a pilot if he was seen as that unreliable.

>>149726934
only alds rape

>>149727429
This has been shown in the story repeatedly. He's not the man you're thinking he is. Yes he loves Duane, yes he respects Duane. But he's also repeatedly considered Duane to not be visionary enough, to not seek his advice in direct ways where he could gather useful information, but only indirectly. We see that he is severely radicalized, going along with a scheme to cause a war and hoping further to double cross those he is scheming with in much the way they do to him. And this isn't unrealistic. In the same way our non-wrights don't know enough pymary to understand how impossible Duane is, and so readily take him more at face value, Lemuel, a non-wright, takes Bastion's claims at face value. Add that with a sincere religious belief that what Ssael did is possible, and a misunderstanding of the mechanics of how seeing into the khert works and you have a recipe for a man who thinks Bastion's spell will let him walk the khert and remake the universe. He believes that inaction is the biggest flaw and he will do what Ssael hasn't.

He's honestly a very solid character when you understand his motivations and how he's exactly the kind of person who could end up taken advantage of by a cult or cult-like organizations. He just happened to sign on with one that was legit. Who would've thought?
>>149727507
She's equal parts size queen and hopeless romantic. She let Duane have a go without a penis just because he invited her on her first ever date.

>>149727429
Except Duane is doing exactly what Lemuel wanted to be doing, haunting the Khert at night able to look for God. We saw Lemuel in a meeting with Bastion, he likely explained, broadly, how it would be possible and smart people believed him. All he had to believe was that they'd martyr him which they seemed quite open to doing. He got played by his zealotry, nothing unbelievable about that.

I can imagine dragging him infront of the box they are keeping Duanne's head and Bastion so he can ID them for the next stage of the Queen's plan.

>>149727215
>You don't get to a high position through meritocratic means
He has not gotten to a high position through meritocratic means.

>>149725473
Yeah, you need a head with the brain removed for Duane's soul-brain to be able to function normally, else it tries to interface with the flesh brain and runs into compatibility problems.

>>149727581
Honestly the smart people didn't believe. They were content to think Duane turning plod would be enough for what they wanted. But they were at least open to Bastion's idea working, they just didn't really seem to find it likely. Lemuel bought into it more readily than he should have, sure. But if he had been the one as he thought he would (and if he had had the extra port like his brother) he would be off looking for God to also and getting duped by Ilganyang harder than Duane ever could.

>>149727429
He believed it because big, important people told him it was possible, and he wanted it to be true. It's a deep hurt that's been a part of him since he was a kid, and for all he puts on a well-adjusted facade, he's never gotten over it.

>>149727622
And not just that: the person he respects most in the world, Duane (in his mind) told him it's true. By the time he started trying to clarify Lemuel had already checked out.

>>149726220
The ports are spectral, not biological. Duane needed to be a tacit caster so that his soul would have the corresponding port, nothing to do with his body, I believe.

>>149726732
Cresce sent troops to assist Vampire.

>>149727429
Something I think you're taking for granted is that in this setting, the afterlife is not speculation to the people. Sure they've got what happens to a soul after death wrong, but the actual realm of souls is a literal, factual realm that you can see with your own eyes when either someone fucks up and overloads the local leylines, or in the Ald's case they have actual machines that let them peer into heaven.

>>149727692
True. But the pymaric needs to go at the spot in his spine where his port is. Just like you have to align other prosthetics to their respective ports for them to click into place with the soul and function properly, this one needed to be clicked into place in the right spot, and that spot only exists in Duane's soul because he's tacit.

You can't fool me, Cope. I know fujo food when I see it.

>>149727718
Sure, but you could logically slot the now-active pymaric vertebrae into the spine of the corpse of a non-tacit person of similar proportions to Duane and it would work.

>>149727745
No. Ports are not physically tangible but they are metaphysically there. They have precise coordinates in a soul. Chitz would've only worked as long as it knew where to look at Matty's eye ports, once he grew taller and out of alignment he would be blind. Toma's eventual and Petr's current arm prosthetics are only controllable using their own hand ports, if they swapped it would be out of alignment and proportion with their ports and at best would cease to work but at worst might throw errors in the form of eels. Duane has a special socket that no one else with his mutation has. Other people don't have ports where he does. If you place his pymaric there on them it will do nothing, even if they're and empty brainless plod. It needs to be a tacit caster with his proportions so the khert can look for his spine port at the right coordinates to plug his pymaric into.

>>149727784
Duane's soul is attached to his pymaric, the entire corpse he's piloting is nothing more than a prosthetic.
All the corpse needs to be is made of human material and the right proportion to line up with his soul's shape so it can control them, like with regular prosthetics.
Just like his legs don't need to belong to a tacit caster, neither does the spine.
His pymaric automatically lines up with his spectral tacit port because that's where the soul is anchored to it.

>>149727804
I think I see what you're saying now. That might work.

I just can see Duanne turning into some weird Brazen Head thing.
Literally dragged into the queen's plans.

>>149727804
Duane ends up going back to Alderode piloting his brother's corpse. The crazy engineer is going to figure out that Duane needs a proportionate body and find a convenient shaped one already there to stick him into.

>>149727885
Wouldn't work. Not because it's physically impossible (I don't know if Lemuel's proportions are right or if that plagiarist would know she needs to remove the brain), but because if you did that, Duane isn't going to Alderode. He's going on a killing spree that'd make Ruck cream his scales.

And before you suggest they'd put some sort of mind control geas on him, they don't know how, and Sette would override it.

>>149727885
Seems like some grimdark level pointless cruelty when literally anything the same size would work and it’s just going to decay again.

>>149727540
Yes, but Duane isn't the only person in his world, and while a political radical, he is not a religious radical nor someone ignorant enough of the ways of society to fall into the "r u wizard" mindset, say, an isolated French peasant in the countryside could fall into. He's the (french)man who hangs out with the city lordship and knows the tricks because he's seen them happen in his years of service. He is surrounded by passive knowledge on all topics relevant to the scheme.

Further going into Duane's experiences as shown in the comic, before the falseflag, you only have the war as a major source of trauma. Emotional outburst on a temporal hell-on-earth environment aren't enough to break a man like that. Do you think Ivan Ivanovich in Dombass, right now torturing recaptured deserters to half death due to frustration with the shit hand's hes been dealt (see any parallels?), will never forget be able to get over it should he the high-stress environment with a sound body?

We can argue he kept getting hazed and bullied beyond what's normal over being a Soud quasi/sort of failure, but we don't see this in the comic. We'd need have to have an arc in between the war and the falseflag attack dedicated to Lemuel being spiritually broken and barely keeping it together, basically in secret, for it to be believable that he'd be told "you can met the one god whose bible says he hid even from heaven then come back to tell us" by political power-players, believe it can happen, not suspect at all he's being led on because he's not important enough in soud society to be the true target of a falseflag attack, and simultaneously think "oh yeah i can kill god".

In the end, we'll have to agree to disagree, Ma'am.

>>149727540
Yes, but Duane isn't the only person in his world, and while a political radical, he is not a religious radical nor someone ignorant enough of the ways of society to fall into the "r u wizard" mindset, say, an isolated French peasant in the countryside could fall into. He's the (french)man who hangs out with the city lordship and knows the tricks because he's seen them happen in his years of service. He is surrounded by passive knowledge on all topics relevant to the scheme.

Further going into Lemon's experiences as shown in the comic, before the falseflag, you only have the war as a major source of trauma. Emotional outburst on a temporal hell-on-earth environment aren't enough to break a man like that. Do you think Ivan Ivanovich in Dombass, right now torturing recaptured deserters to half death due to frustration with the shit hand's hes been dealt (see any parallels?), will never forget be able to get over it should he the high-stress environment with a sound body?

We can argue he kept getting hazed and bullied beyond what's normal over being a Soud quasi/sort of failure, but we don't see this in the comic. We'd need have to have an arc in between the war and the falseflag attack dedicated to Lemuel being spiritually broken and barely keeping it together, basically in secret, for it to be believable that he'd be told "you can met the one god whose bible says he hid even from heaven then come back to tell us" by political power-players, believe it can happen, not suspect at all he's being led on because he's not important enough in soud society to be the true target of a falseflag attack, and simultaneously think "oh yeah i can kill god".

In the end, we'll have to agree to disagree, Ma'am.

we're almost at 200% of of the kickstarter quota at the moment

>>149725000 (OP)
Who was actually killed was Solid Roger. Liquid Roger is still out there.

>>149727968
>you only have the war as a major source of trauma.
Bro, did you read this comic? The fundamental trauma of Lemuel's life is killing his mother to be born in the world. Combine that with an emotionally distant father and grandfather, along with a ace like Duane for a brother, and Lemuel has spent his entire life wracked with guilt for existing for no reason. Also - the idea that war could not have broken him is laughable. Adult men are fundamentally changed by it. Not all, but many. Not all of those recover, probably not most. Lemuel was a child when he went to war, and seasoned veterans were bitching on the page itself about how it was a dirtier war than normal. Literally the only friends who made it home were Will and Duane, and we all know Lem's many complexes about his brother, plus Duane's refusal to see anything wrong with the brother he genuinely considers his better.

>>149728006
Oh, and hey, I forgot that Alderode is a racist police state, that Lemuel was groomed to be an extremist by a psychopath, and that he was serially ass raped by older men in the army and his commanders did nothing to stop it.

>>149728006
Well, I ask you. Do you think Ivan Ivanovich in Dombass, right now torturing recaptured deserters to half death due to frustration with the shit hand's hes been dealt (see any parallels?), will never forget be able to get over it should he leave the high-stress environment with a sound body?

I'm not basing myself in bullshit here. I'm basing myself on real people doing Lemuel-tier things in Lemuel tier situations. Funny you mention the ass rape when I mention the army that's world famous for it's ass rape.

Let me elaborate: Coming out broken, or with acute PSTD (which I have first hand experience dealing with but instead men in wars it's moms with schizophrenic family members), absolutely crashes your life potential as a person. Lemon would be too busy drinking himself to death or lashing out at random people reliving emotional flashbacks with potentially permanent consequences to pull the stunts he did post war. It is a major incongruency.

You can have the meritocratic overachiever far rightist coddling with middle echelons of society or the broken, suicidal sadboi willing to believe whatever he's told. You can't have both.

>>149728037
lemon the pissmop is evil though

>>149728043
yes

>>149728037
Lemuel isn't one of your hypothetical 80 IQ steppe chimps, nor a woman civilian with schizo relations. His coping mechanism was staying in the military and (before he committed to the martyrdom) whoring.

>>149725000 (OP)
>Thought lem looked to pretty for my taste
>Has a beard now.
Damn why couldn't you do that sooner ashley?

>>149728080
no mention about the previously unseen 20 kgs of muscle mass?

>>149728084
Honestly, it looks like he managed to get out of the city. Live like a hobo and then got caught. He's probably been there shorter than we think.

>>149728072
>Lemuel isn't one of your hypothetical 80 IQ steppe chimps
We can name indians, chinese, latams, africans. Every culture in history too.

I'd go as far as to say guilt about one's actions in war is an uniquely western phenomenon and chef kiss it by stating mostly because westerners haven't found a real land war until russia invaded. Easy to feel guitly when you are on a chopper shooting arabic fish in a barrel

>>149728109
PTSD isn't (principally) about guilt. It's about trauma. You can get PTSD from purely physical trauma.

>>149725000 (OP)
You think Duane is gonna get a chance to tell Lem soon how he escaped a brothel by tactically boring women to death, or how a huge bird prolapse almost ate him with her gigantic carnivorous vagina?

>>149725000 (OP)
How did he get hotter? Adeliers are bullshit!

>>149727429
lemon is the retarded younger brother. Duane is the (always too) cool, handsome, tall, wise older brother he never listened to. Many such cases.

If lemon ever learned even one thing in his life, ever, he would have known his plan was stupid purely because it was his plan.

>>149728597
am I supposed to know who those doofuses are

>>149725000 (OP)
does this mean diva didn't make it :(

Little do these foolish Crescians know that all Aldish vliegeng pilots are trained to have prehensile control of their incredibly long, thick and handsome penises

>>149728037
people with ptsd and cptsd can have very successful careers but be crumbling personally/emotionally- i also have experience with the cptsd that comes from neglectful and narcissistic family members and i somehow manage to be successful in my work and career while also barely keeping from crashing out with my friends and family

everyone is different based on their own inbuilt reactions as well as the support system around them. lem, if nothing else, had a brother that always tried to look out for him and always did everything he could to bring Lemuel up with him, and even with the complex feelings that exists between lem and duane, this is definitely a support structure that helped Lem succeed.

also i dont doubt that working with animals really helps lem? his goal was to be a vliegeng rider and animal therapy work is not uncommon when it comes to ptsd/cptsd. i dont doubt that being able to dedicate himself to these creatures helped him as a young kid just out of the army

>>149727125
>>149725443
>>149726067
Hard to compare flaccid with erect but Duane does not look bigger.
https://files.catbox.moe/myz4qd.png

>>149729442
why does duane's dick kind of look like a a dog's but without the knot

has ashley been overdoing the monster dicks and forgot how regular human ones look like

>>149729510
Okay no that is definitely more doglike
I rest my case

>>149729473
Ashley isn't good at drawing dicks. She has said this herself. She doesn't draw hardcore smut. Her nsfw is usually soft core.

>>149729545
my bad
I figured dicks would be second nature since she's a stinky fujo

>>149729473
>why does duane's dick kind of look like a a dog's but without the knot
It doesn't.

>>149729586
I'd expect you're the dog dick connoisseur.

>>149729529
In the case of the joystick it's probably a joke that science bitch has a dog fetish.

>blogging
Finished my reread. I feel glad I actually took a break from Unsounded and came back to read it in chunks. I think if I'd been reading weekly some of the action sequences in the finale would have frustrated me as I was frustrated with the ones at the Deadly Nevergreen, perceiving them as stilted, but it's really just a function of the 3 pages a week format. When you read them as a whole it flows perfectly fine.

One thing I can't believe is that I missed the silver's probable connection to Lady Ilganyag when I was reading long ago. It feels obvious when you read the whole thing. Again I think being immersed in the-drip-drip-drip of day-to-day updates and checking the author Q&A and everything almost blinded me to it, because you start thinking of first silver or first copper or whatever as just another first material and don't notice there's kind of a narrative throughline between all the mentions of first silver we get on-panel.

There's a lot of good set-up in the comic overall. Cope feels like a pretty fair writer: you get real hints, even some stuff from very early on feels like it comes back home at the end. I do wonder in what order the comic was written, like which parts were finished or conceived first. The only thing I think you could never really have guessed was Sette's exact situation, but I think that's fair enough because it comes with a lot of metaphysical lore dumping we get at the very end. There's no reason you should be able to guess or speculate on everything that develops in a narrative, it's just something I and others enjoy (I got really into Tengoku Daimakyou and Touge Oni partly on that).

I have a major soft spot for people who put their whole life on the line to realise their vision, so I have to say Unsounded is probably my favourite comic of all time. It has these indulgences of individuality you could call flaws but to me I love the world, I love the characters and I respect so much the time and the love put into producing it.

>>149729442
Is opera that good ?

>>149729714
And I like that it has those indulgences too, those are the things that make the work of an individual creator feel unique.

Minor characters that grew on me unexpectedly towards the end were Knock-Me-Down, she just gets such an amazing finale and send-off, and weirdly Darkest Paul. I liked how catty and hot-and-cold he is with everyone and how he becomes Sharteshane-ishly foul-mouthed when he's in a stressful situation.

Funniest line in the whole thing for me ended up being "That's a nut shot, fella" when Toma sees Duane's ghost in the bunker. Just something about it ust really fucking tickled me, when Duane and the Peaceguard started pairing up more often I really enjoyed how bluntly they ended up speaking to and of him vs. his flowery phrases.
>end blogging

>>149729719
Yeah pretty much. You probably have to be wired for it or find the right one for you but it's an emotional experience.

>>149729442
Duane is also physically bigger than Lemuel. When he was alive he was what, 6'6"? And he's not a lanklet, either. Some tumblr lore expert will tell us.

>>149729820
Please no. The less husbando details I hear the more I can take the character seriously.

>>149729473
I think just because his cockhead is kinda conical compared to the mean, makes it a bit unusual.

We need a Kasslynian A/B/O spinoff.

>>149729827
If it helps you any, he was balding and I believe he had a nasal voice.

>>149729895
This foul spirit must be quelled.

>>149729820
Body size and dick size are not attached
t.manlet with a big dick

>>149729820
Unless Lemuel is under five feet tall the ratio wouldn't matter much.

>>149729956
Someone is off model or Cope changed her mind, then.

>>149729984
Considering it was a last minute according to the patreon post >>149725433
She probably wanted a peak at it but naturally he couldn't be hard and showing enough to include his balls would give it too much panel space. Plus she already dealing with dumb shit like not being allowed to link the website on the kickstarter page because of starfish scene. So liberties are taken and Lemon becomes a shower.

Random thought. Pymary has to be Tainish, right? Why is that again? Just because it was invented that way?
Surely the khert doesn't actually care what language you're speaking? If someone figured it out the first, time, surely someone else could in hundreds/thousands of years.

>>149730231
We have no evidence they didn't just cut off the top of his dick and leave it on the bench under him.

>>149730324
It's not even modern Tainish, it's Old Tainish. I don't really follow why the khert wouldn't care what language you are speaking, though. Old Tainish is the language of the gods and presumably what everything the khert controls is encoded with. It makes sense to be you'd have to speak the right programming language to interact with it.

Maybe you could eventually build up some kind of auto-translation pymaric that encodes your words in another language into the appropriate Old Tainish. I would guess there are probably pymarics that have command words or activation mechanisms that don't involve speaking Tainish at all? Like a pymaric gun where you just pull the trigger can't involve speaking Tainish. But I think you would run into efficiency problems. Rahm's flying machine was pushing the boundaries of what could be encoded while keeping everything simple for the front end user, and it basically just executed a multi-step process we see Duane use all the time (play with momentum to gain height, and keep it going). So I think if you wanted something even moderately comprehensive for using pymaric in another language the size and programming of the pymaric would be impractically huge.

That's one area where ghost AI research could probably be helpful. If you could load a ghost who is a facsimile of an Old Tainish scholar they could translate anything said into the right language, maybe?

>>149725316
I'm gonna get the books but unless I can get Will SR. Plapping Mikaila I don't Think I'll swing for the comissions

>>149730409
I think you could have gotten that fine, I'm pretty sure people requested smut on the old KS commissions, but I'm also pretty sure all the slots are gone now.

>>149730497
The black and white slots are gone but ashley mentioned more coming later and iirc also colored ones

>>149729933
I think anon meant that with regards to estimating dick size based on comparing it to body parts. The same sized dick looks smaller on a larger body.

>>149730324
Old Tainish to cast in directly. That's just the khert's version of binary, the native language it understands. Remember, all pymary is is a fancy programming language for reality. But no, it doesn't have to explicitly be. Gruftgrammars can and do illegally encode certain regular words and phrases into spells, but I am sure that's by defining those initial words with the language the khert understands. Khert hubs have common spell burns as well and while I don't know if they're still in Old Tainish, there's no reason they would have to be, same with initiating things using pymarics that activate on certain commands. In fact, in those cases it certainly would be New Tainish or continental most of the time. They're frequently intended for regular people who don't know Old Tainish.

Quigley was, in addition to other things, a gruftgrammarer. Also it was specifically the senet beasts that taught people the language of pymary. It's not human tech. It's said to be the language the world was created in.
>>149730231
I think this is the reality. Artistic license to make it not too obviously lewd while needing to have it pretty far down to be noticable.

It's crazy to me just how well the Kickstarter is doing. We've already passed the highest grossing of the ones she ran herself and it's just the second day.

>>149730720
well she hyped it a fair bit. I personally am looking forward to having the printed versions shipped overseas.

>>149730913
Honestly feels like she hadn't hyped it that much outside the Patreon until it launched. I definitely think there was more talk about Kickstarters leading up to the first three she did.

But for sure, I think we're all glad to be buying these books and that they're coming out, even if it's a little frustrating to so many of us that there's content we already own in most of them. It'll be good to make the full collection available to everyone who missed out and available in physical stores to a wide audience.

>>149730231
starfish scene?

>>149730720
My only concern is Unsounded has a small but very dedicated fanbase, so we just hit a point where it doesn't really build up anymore.

>>149731207
The Kickstarter wasn't allowed to link to her comic anywhere due to the chapter two scene with Cara. She was going to make a censored, stand alone version of chapter one that didn't link on to other additional chapters to allow it to be linked but decided against doing so.

>>149731247
It's definitely true that we aren't really snowballing into a much bigger audience but I do think we've expanded. Putting Unsounded in stores in front of a larger audience will mean it will find its market there too. There are some weirdos who might like this stuff floating around in regular life, even if it is niche. And meanwhile the core audience will continue to help Ashley churn out print versions of these comics to expand her reach by backing Kickstarter. We really should also help expand it by getting Unsounded into libraries (or book stores) wherever possible. We can do our part to help more people find the crazy shit we love to read.

>>149730397
>Maybe you could eventually build up some kind of auto-translation pymaric that encodes your words in another language into the appropriate Old Tainish.

Those exists, it's called gruftgrammary. It is illegal though.

https://unsoundedcomic.tumblr.com/search/gruftgrammary

>>149731449
why in the hell would that be illegal
errors?

>>149731494
Why can't you drive any vehicle you like down the road instead of only ones that are street legal?

Control and regulation breed predictability, potentially higher safety, and in the case of pymary, they help to ensure this is only used by licensed (ideally respectable) wrights. Spell burns are allowed tech, even for regular folk to utilize, but only the government can legally make them.

>>149730720
Well this is more books than usual and having a publisher is a big deal. Plus I'm sure they are advertising it on their end somewhere.

>eyes getting bad enough with age the page resolution is starting to be a problem
How much better is the patreon version? Has Cope said anything about Book 2 being highrez?

>>149731592
Your glasses, bro?

>>149731575
It's more books than usual, but it is also just reprints of stuff we already had. And while it's true they're definitely promoting her material, I think getting most people to back a Kickstarter for a book they haven't heard of by an author they haven't heard of is a very hard sell. If they accomplish a noticable amount of those sells it's not going to be the initial purchases, these are all the hardcore, dedicated fans.

>>149731592
If it's worth it to you, definitely consider springing for it. But some good quality reading glasses might help depending on exactly what the issue is.

>>149731609
I mean this suits me because my 2nd KS project years and years ago was Unsounded book 3. But if they do a book 3 and 4 one I'll still back it again.

All of this could have been avoided if we'd just listened to Nary-A'Care Frummagem.

>>149731609
You just reminded me that there are also a bunch of people missing book 2 because they never got reprinted. I happen to be such a person.

>>149731685
Damn. Did you never manage to get book two then? I was fortunate enough that I've been able to back all of them, and I hope to do that with the ones yet to come as well.

>>149731723
I wonder how many copies of each of the original 3 books were printed.

>>149731723
I'm one of them.

>>149731609
A lot of dedicated fans probably missed the original prints and were waiting for this to get them all at once. I know I was.

>>149731855
For sure, not enough copies of book two exist and that's been the case for a very long time. But I wonder just how big the gap in stock was since a lot of others did have it.

>>149731799
We don't have numbers but iirc book 1 was fine for the number of readers at the time. Book 2 she under ordered and ran out. Book 3 she ordered a lot based on what happened with book 2 and still has boxes of it in her house. Book 1 got reprinted as a part of the book 3 kickstarter. Book 2 was suppose to get the same as a part of book 4 but instead we have this.

>>149729552
Fujo's being women means they usually can't draw cocks well. It's why most bls just over censor dicks so they don't have to worry about what people think about them. While hentai uses minimum black bars.

>>149732743
>Fujo's being women means they usually can't draw cocks well
Would love to hear more about your theory here.

>>149725605
To punish them for what they did.

>>149731685
>>149731723
>>149731844
>>149731855
>not having a signed copy of Book 2
baka my head it's like you're not even a fan

>>149733136
Yeah, you're right. I'll just cancel my pledge for this KS and forget about the comic.

>>149733136
I regret not getting my copy signed when I backed it. I don't know why but the extra cost seemed like a lot then. I wish this Kickstarter had more different tiers and little things like that.

>>149733136
Too broke back then

>>149733221
I mean it was 8 years ago. I don't know about you but I was a poverty stricken student back then.

>>149725316
60 buckaroos and free shipping was too tempting an offer so of course

>>149733483
What did she mean by this?

>>149727972
>Constantinople fallen!
lol

>>149733355
I had a part time job back then, I wasn't making much but it was enough that adding ten extra dollars shouldn't have been a concern. Ah well.
>>149733593
I think it means she's going steady with us. We have to buy her flowers now or something.

>>149731592
Oh no
anon's turning into a shitposter against his will

>>149733787
Truly the gravest disability.

>>149733764
>We have to buy her flowers now or something.
I think you'd have better chances buying her a bouquet of XL snake dildos

>>149733483
I've had a pass for so long I have no idea what the default posting process is like. What's shitty about it nowadays?

>>149733802
the 120 seconds cooldown?
Mind you that used to be like 600 seconds before they screwed the pooch and the entire site got hacked.

>>149733798
Well that's basically the conversation that got her to post it in the first place. We were discussing the finer points of Lem torture and having a high minded debate about the proper anatomical size of Adelier junk, which brother is bigger, and if it counts if Duane lost his.
>>149733802
If you post infrequently/are a mobile user you basically have a fifteen minute timer before you're allowed to post the first time that shows up repeatedly. I don't think Ash uses 4chan much nowadays, which isn't too dissimilar to my own use. If I skip posting in an update thread once or twice then the next time I want to talk about Unsounded I'm hit with a two minute window where I have to sit and wait for my timer to go down. It was even worse when it was 600-700 seconds. I would have a big wall of text ready to go, try to post, and most of the time just walk away after. If you ever worry that the threads are a little too dead it's probably stuff like this annoying infrequent posters.

Ashley couldn't resist a little dong poking into the panel

>>149733929
She likes what she likes and I respect her for it.

>>149733929
>Ashley's : "we got the meats"

>>149733929
"Little?"

>>149733962
just the tip bro

>>149733764
Flowers? Haha I've just dropped more money on Cope than I have for any chick besides my grandma, my sisters, and my mom.

>>149733929
It's so funny to me that this passes for tasteful and not exploitative in her mind. She needs to be recalibrated for baseline sensibilities. But not until after she finishes writing Unsounded because I don't want anything to change.
>>149733962
Are you telling me your penis doesn't brush the ground when you walk?

>>149733983
Lemuel's gonna have a whole lot of spice tonight.

>>149730720
The fact that we have international shipping is probably bringing in more people. Both the early bird reward tiers sold out, for US and World delivery. Nearly 500 backers picked the $60 tier where you get both books in print. She has a dedicated global fanbase. Not a very big fanbase, but loyal.

>>149731247
It's already hit almost double its funding goal. It's a huge success. And if she can get her comic put on shelves in bookstores that creates the possibility of growing her audience further.

>>149734048
Isn't the lack of international shipping relatively new? I think the three Kickstarters themselves all accommodated international though she would encourage you to spend your money elsewhere. It was after that she started saying no, although I think she still offered individual sales if pressed.

>>149730397
>Vibe based coding
>But with the risk of it setting the atmosphere on fire if you don't regularly feed it Old Tain speech from a human speaker and it starts cannibalizing it's own speech patterns

>>149734086
Ashley couldn't really afford much international shipping when she was running those kickstarters herself. It was very limited.

I figure most people here backed to get the 2 volumes in print, did anybody here go for the higher tiers?

>>149734078
Maybe we should be calling up some LCSs and book stores and asking if they're going to stock it.
>>149734092
Forget all the doomsaying AI gets in this world, can you imagine the doomsaying it gets in a universe where any time it uses pymary it could core leech you, your house, your dog, and your town?

>>149734116
All I could afford was the PDF copies, for I am but a humble poorfag and even this was an expense I had to save for.

>>149734116
Nah. I would have preferred some higher tiers that matched the old Kickstarters more. I'm backing this for love of Unsounded, not other stories. But I assume any pins or other merch will be part of the stretch goals, and that some of the others might have been too demanding on Ashley without enough compensation.

>>149734116
Look at the international shipping prices for the highest tier. I’m not touching that.

>>149734229
I might kick in a little more for a bookmark. I lost the bookmark I got from her on a previous kickstarter.

>>149734262
At least you didn't lose all 3 books. I have all my prints, bookmark, pins, and sticker still. But I can't for the life of me find where my books are. I boxes up my collection of comics for a while redoing my rooms and shelves and I haven't found them yet. They're definitely still somewhere but I don't have a clue.

>>149733802
We need to retvrn to pre-catalog no cooldown timer posting.

>>149734589
yeah and let's get rid of captchers while we're at it

>>149734116
There's a couple of things in the author's picks I really like, and I think that's a nice way to frame it from a smaller publisher, like 'the author recommends these other works from our catalogue', but I'm backing for Unsounded so no.

>>149734349
Yeah I'd be major bummed if I ever lost my printed copies of the first 3 volumes. Those go in a special priority moving box whenever I move.

>>149734658
Any particularly worth checking out?

>>149734678
I'll find them. Hopefully. I've been doing a lot of decluttering and rearranging but I've been pretty damn careful about properly going through the things I'm pruning. I can't imagine that I would have thrown them out. They're just not in the box that I thought I packed them in and I don't know where they are instead.

Whether it's new people or returnees I'm glad there are some people drawn back to the KS. It's honestly such a hard story to pitch. You actually should be pitching it in the same way as something like Mistborn or The Second Apocalypse, it's a dense and tragic epic fantasy. But it does have a lot comic relief and you can definitely see Ashley's interest in animation come through in some of the physical comedy and expressiveness of the characters, there's a real sense of play to the art even when it dips into being incredibly gory. And the start of the story is much more conventional before you get drawn into the world. So it seems like a tough sales pitch.

>>149734729
Sucks to lose stuff like that. I misplaced my VHS collection of old Disney / Dreamworks films during a move 12 years ago and I still think about it.

>>149734686
Sure, I think Rice Boy, TJ and Amal and The Worst Journey in the World are really good. I haven't read The Girl Who Flew Away or The Last Delivery and I bounced off Shadoweyes despite liking Sophie Campbell's art a lot.

>>149734758
I have always advertised Unsounded to people who like epic fantasy rather than people who like comics or web comics, because it is essentially an epic fantasy novel series in comic format. By which I mean, if you go into it with the mindset of a person who reads epic fantasy, you will enjoy it immensely more than somebody who expects light webcomic reading.

>>149734802
>it is essentially an epic fantasy novel series in comic format
Definitely in theme, but I really enjoy that it embraces the comic medium so much as well.

>>149734116
180$ tier chad here. Shipping is gonna hurt, but I just love Unsounded.

>>149734758
It really is hard to pitch, isn't it? I felt like the panels and description they went with don't do a great job of illustrating the scope and grandeur, the comic can bring. They weren't really bad ones, I'm just comparing it to a lot of the really spectacular things that come after. And the description is lifted almost word for word from the elevator pitch that worked on us, so who knows.

I hate the new subtitles though.

>>149734772
Really does. At least in both our cases, they turned out to be media that are replaceable.
>>149734794
Thanks.
>>149734802
Best way to do it. I struggle to stay concise when going about it but I usually try to focus on things like the consistent updates, the deep magic system, and that is a high fantasy story full of politics and intrigue with incredible characterization and worldbuilding in a truly unique setting.

>>149733802
Wait 2 minutes to post for some period of annoying time after doing a gay cloudflare I am not a robot and then solving a captcha.

Assuming it doesn't just refresh the timer infinitely. It does that on mobile for some reason.

>>149734686
I like Evan Dahm's stuff. Rice Boy is a nice surreal fantasy comic from the early webcomic days. The Last Delivery is a dark comedy absurdist story that hits a little too close these days. I'd describe the plot as a wagie with a strong work ethic dealing with too much shit to get his job done.

>>149734802
I have been reading epic fantasy novels for 30 years and I legitimately rank Unsounded in my top 10 favorites alongside stuff like Wheel of Time and Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn.

>>149734912
You do us proud here on /co/. We're not her biggest base of support but I like to think we're among the most loyal.

>>149734912
I wanted a commission but apparently that was over a second after the KS launched.

>>149736136
I didn't want a commission until I saw this page.

Blacktongues are male-only, right? I wonder where evil rule-breaking female wrights end up.

>>149728072
>Lemuel isn't one of your hypothetical 80 IQ steppe chimps
>i have no counter argument so i'll resort to racism

>>149736218
Apparently being led around by a lizard and a crow.

>>149736229
I've been reliably informed by numerous Jet and Copper scholars and theoreticial ethnologists that the Souds, Tains - or "pissmops" as I like to call them - ARE actually biologically and culturally closer to wild apes than real humans.

>>149736273
Just thinking about Sarthos, she seemed like a prime candidate to end up a rogue wright. She would have done well in the Blacktongues.

>>149736518
I guess for Aldish women there's the march.

>>149734116
I just added a bunch on top as a donation

>>149737147
Cope said new stuff is coming monday so I'm waiting. I want her to put my buddy in the comic as a cameo

>>149737931
>I want her to put my buddy in the comic as a cameo
The guy whose dick they cut off and sew onto Lemuel after his own cock is chopped off by Crescians on the next page? I was thinking that too.

>>149737931
>>149738058
The only extra I want is a b&w comic or prose fic that plays out what's going to happen to Lemuel when the peaceguard torturing him decides to go off the script a little and experiment with what other ways distilled pain might be useful, and if homemade pain still might have a place in this world when compared to lab grade. Ashley you terrible fujo, I know you're lurking. You know you want to make this.

Wait actually, I guess you can just get a pymaric dick if you get castrated in the Unsoundedverse. Or does a pymaric replacement limb absolutely HAVE to interface with a khert port? You could get one that shoots flames, or has ruby balls it taps condensed light from to fire lasers.

If only Alderode made these standard issue for Third Options. Sarthos could have killed those bullies with her laser cock and the whole scandal would have been avoided.

>>149738307
I think it would need to interface with a khert port. I don't recall if crotches have khert ports but I think there are more than just the ones we typically consider. If not, I wonder if a very determined amputee could convince a wright to install a pymaricock onto a different port but offset it so the business end was still appropriately located at their crotch. I guess absence other, more interesting solutions you could just go with a pymaric version of a strap on that responds to gestures or voice commands but where's the fun in that?

>>149738307
Alds would mock Sarthos for not having a real cock before issuing her a pymaric one.

>>149738560
My Unsounded RP character will be a campaigner for Third Option rights who is petitioning for them all to be given government-issued pymaric cocks to instill them with a proper sense of manliness.

>>149738560
That's why she needs to join the black tongues and make her own.

By the way did we ever figure out why Duane got six shots of distilled Weeping Plague before getting brought back to life?

>>149738620
I don't remember. We know it transmits through the khert, by eye contact, and specifically by the moment of recognition between two people. We also know that the heart stopping is exactly when the khert declares someone dead, that living flesh and dead flesh have different old Tainish names, and that Bastion needed Duane alive. We know that Bastion wanted a tacit caster for the process, that the spine port was integral for the process, and that whatever the pymaric is inside of him now is basically what Duane is.

My best guess is the plague would have done something to affect how he quickly he enters the khert and allow his soul to be more readily captured intact.

>>149738599
This would be interesting to see. Lady I who cannot birth her own children would seethe at Sarthos for having the choice to pursue the third option. I wonder if Lady I would fuck with her.

>>149738896
I think she might actually like Sarthos turning away from that ability to become third option. Despite her maternal instincts, she seems to have a rather low opinion of humans following their base instincts in the absence of a higher choice to do good and shape the world. She also seems to be pretty antinatalist for humanity's current incarnation at least. Sarthos felt she could do more and be more giving up her status as a woman. So as long as she sacrifices something valuable for the bird cult the lady might actually take someone like that on. Anadyne (kind of) got in by tearing off her tits.

>>149738737
I think the Weeping Plague makes the soul more sticky/tacky. Less likely to just split apart immediately. He might have needed to buy him time to perform his bullshit or maybe dying with the plague is what lets him keep his memories together.

>>149739011
I wonder if the plague is also a plague in the khert. Like the khert recognizes the material as unclean/infected and doesn't process it the same way. It's definitely khert conducted, there's no logical biological process that would allow for its transmission method. There must be a binary value for recognition in the khert somewhere that cascades into the weeping plague in infected individuals.

>>149739011
Doesn't it also induce mutations or something in the people who have the plague for an extended time? Or am I wrong. If you dump six doses into someone all at once maybe something interesting will happen.

>>149739071
Oh. Interesting. Maybe it was something Ilganyang wanted Bastion to do in order to better find him, better allow him to wake up, or better bias the memories she showed him. Maybe as well it had more to do with Bastion's research interest into treating the plague. A patient who won't and can't die, who he can freely experiment on, and who he can study the plague to better save actual people. And did it matter that Duane was an actual person? No, not really. He was a religious zealot that hunted Bastion's kind. His life was worth nothing against the weight of the scientific advances it could bring.

>>149739071
I thought it gave you a fever then all your blood vessels dissolve. A fever could be due to instability too, the khert gets hot when it's unstable IIRC.

>>149738993
>She also seems to be pretty antinatalist for humanity's current incarnation at least.
Because she isn't finished manipulating humanity's current incarnation to what she wants to be. I admit after seeing Lady I in full blown pettiness and seethe mode before she got blown away; it's colored by opinions of her greatly.
>Anadyne (kind of) got in by tearing off her tits.
I'd say Anadyne threw away her life and future and embraced bitterness before saying she threw away womanhood.
>I REJECT MY HUMANITY, KNOCK

>>149739115
I thought it gave you a fever then all your blood vessels dissolve. A fever could be due to instability too, the khert gets hot when it's unstable IIRC.

>>149739456
I think it's also because she wants to destroy this version of the khert and fix it to what it was, then go back to playing goddess of humanity.
>I'd say Anadyne threw away her life and future and embraced bitterness before saying she threw away womanhood.
I think the tearing off bits might be important to Ilganyang's aesthetic no matter what the meaning associated is. And in both cases there is still a major rejection of (an aspect of) humanity.
>I REJECT MY HUMANITY, KNOCK
There are two ways to read this and one is much sadder than the other.

>I admit after seeing Lady I in full blown pettiness and seethe mode before she got blown away; it's colored by opinions of her greatly.
Very fair. She is not nearly as great of a person or as superior to humanity as she thinks she is. She is just as flawed, just as prone to all the same problems that the humans she berates for not doing better are. Still, she's an excellent character and I'm damn sad we likely won't get her back for book two. Hope the inevitable wandering root rival is just as compelling.
>>149739572
It lights on fire but the actual temperature in the mortal world can be anything. Remember, coffee can freeze. I don't remember hearing anything about blood vessels dissolving or fevers but it's definitely possible. I only really follow here and the Tumblr, there's too much extra content on Discord and Patreon that I won't have seen at this point.

>>149738896
>>149738993
Everything we've seen of Sessine indicates that the reason she doesn't allow women in her harem is because she's
1.) straight
2.) insanely jealous and occasionally viciously vindictive

>>149738620
>>149738737
>>149739011
This from the script Ash released after the finale. Not concrete, since it never made it into the comic proper, but we can probably assume it still holds true

>>149740031
Sure, but we see her alongside Ana several times. I think there's a world where someone who chose to be a third option and gave up enough could pique her interest.
>>149740306
Interesting. I suppose they're talking about the forest babies there.

>>149740474
Tittybird didn't like or accept Ana but used her because she saw Sette bringing the silver into the khert through Ana. Anadyne was only a means to an end.

Think we hit double on the Kickstarter tonight? We're really close.
>>149740571
I don't disagree. But I do think there's important parallels between Ana and the blacktongues for a reason. She was given first silver, paired frequently with Lady I imagery in such a way as to make it ambiguous if Ana could see her, she was used by her as she does with all her men, made to sacrifice to twin orbs representing reproduction, and in the end when she no longer had a purpose to exploit, she was disposed of.

Sessine doesn't normally prefer women but I do think she might have 'liked' Ana platonically even if she held little respect for her. I think under the right circumstances, albeit very rarely, another woman could come to her harem. Besides, there's more than one way into that harem as evidenced by Murkoph and Duane.

>>149740306
Oh cool. So we just need to get everyone infected with the weeping plague then everyone will be in the khert with Ssael and he can remake the world.

>>149740729
I think the actual blacktongues would have been depressingly awful to Ana regarding her skill as a wright sadly.

>>149740306
Also from the script

>>149740306
>>149740788
This is honestly like the two sides of unsounded.txt.

>>149725316
The 100/180 tier is kinda ass but I understand it's the corporation making Cope advertise their shit in exchange for making the books

>>149740788
>it turns out piss kills the gods
>ssael destroyed the gefendur gods by pissing on them
>deepest lore on the actual origin of soud being called pissmops
>the great unsounded is finally sounded... with pee

>>149740765
Yes. She wouldn't be accepted by the boys. But neither is Duane. And she wouldn't be an admirable person that Sessine might respect, but neither is Murkoph.
>>149740736
And then what? They can't be reborn.
>>149740807
Not enough monstersex fujo gore or enough Melville references. Unsounded is more multifaceted than that.

wait no we can take it further
>only the piss of a true tacit-casting tain can finish ssael's work
>but duane can't piss because his dick rotted off
>duane and sette must quest for a new urinary system and dick so duane can piss the great unsounded
>enter lemuel's freshly bepained and severed hog

>>149740890
>But neither is Duane.
I actually wonder about that a bit. I suspect the only thing that was keeping Duane off blacktongue membership is 1) Bastion 2) Duane's incredibly rigid and overbearingly principled personality. And if not for 2) I think 1) could probably have been convinced to make allowances. Duane's easily talented enough to be a blacktongue, if he were willing, and they seem like a crowd that'd be willing to overlook questions like ownership and 'is he really human' to get another singular wright in their ranks. Though maybe Bastion is just too possessive of his projects to allow them that kind of independence.

But it's all moot because clearly Duane would never join the blacktongues under basically any circumstances in reality, alive or dead.

>>149740857
Agreed but there's always the hope that it gives her better visibility on other people's Kickstarters in the future. Though it's honestly pretty pointless seeing how few of those tiers are being sold that way. Kickstarters are for crazy, rabid fans. We would happily throw that much money at Ashley if only it was something Unsounded related instead. Really wish there had been more interesting tiers.
>>149740910
Side quest to Juste to get some balls when?

>>149740890
>Sessine might respect
Given how it all went down in the end I think Sessine's respect is pretty much on the level of Ruck's.

>>149741004
Duane wouldn't be accepted because he's too religious, too loyal to Alderode, and too insistent on doing things by the book and following the system. He would badly cramp their style. Could you imagine all the black tongues waking up one day to see Juste's bird decor removed and replaced with lions, beautiful greens and golds everywhere? Burning locks of hair instead of their balls on entry, and swearing on the Ssaelit scripture? They'd develop new techniques just to kill him.

>>149741058
Yeah, she's not much of a better patron than Ruck is. Actually, is she even better? Who would be worse to cede control to? They're both terrible.

>>149741083
Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. Duane would never be a blacktongue because he's Duane. But just on the raw materials I think he could probably have been admitted, were he not Duane. The notion of Juste getting a Ssaelit makeover is funny though.

>too insistent on doing things by the book and following the system
This is true but you know he would have loved being a composer if he'd actually gotten there, right? Like as soon as he felt he had the license to experiment and the moral basis to to do it he would have rejoiced in it. Imagining Duane's life if he were born in Cresce instead is fucking depressing.

>>149741156
Oh of course. He would have been a perfect composer. He just doesn't want to break the law.

>>149741122
imo Ruck is the better patron because an addict will slip up at some point, and humanity might gain some breathing room to overthrow him. Tittybird is too tough.

>>149740729
Three pledges away.

>>149741213
There's an argument Duane self-sabotages to spare himself from the conflicts in Aldish society he can't rationalise away IMO. He would certainly have encountered those kinds of dilemmas as a composter.

>>149741213
There's an argument Duane self-sabotages to spare himself from the conflicts in Aldish society he can't rationalise away IMO. He would certainly have encountered those kinds of dilemmas as a composer.

>>149741317
Yeah, he would've been forced to play politics and deal with bureaucracy, serve as spy for the temple. He would have had to take his family and move away to a much less friendly area where Ssaelit and soud are a minority. In these, he would be miserable. But when he was actually getting to compose new spells? Pour over the latest pymary research papers and add to it himself? He would be in heaven.

>>149741393
He'd also be dead pretty fucking fast.

Looking at the stats for the backers of the project, interesting to see that 139 people are new to Kickstarter, with this as the first project they've ever contributed to.

>>149740729
Depends on if we got any supporters on the other side of the globe who haven't bit the bullet yet.

>>149736218
>female wrights
how barbaric

>>149741612
I'm technically one of those. "I" backed all three of Cope's other Kickstarters but didn't have a card at the time so just asked a family member to do it for me and then paid them the cost.
>>149741666
We made it. $80,023. Fully backed in less than 1.5 hours from launch and backed two times over in just two days.

>>149736218
Are they male only because Blacktongues are male only, or male only because admission to the Blacktongues involves chopping off your balls?

Because, and hear me out

>>149725000 (OP)
What seems to be the problem, anon?

>>149740788
Didn't that make it in?

>>149740306
>why're all these me's... here
I feel like this is a clear change because I could have sworn all the settes fucked off into the silver woods to find Ssael. so there would be no me's for her to see. Also I don't get the reborn part. The Sette's can be reborn without the First soul and yet this seems to imply that plague that ald souls would somehow be reborn if not for the plague that is also the only reason they aren't scattered. Though it's probably some sort of yet to be introduced Damakhert bullshit.

>>149743494
>The Sette's can
I mean can't

Between The "Man", The original plan behind the zombiefication which was to meet Ssael, and potentially the soul shenanigans with the plague. I really like the Alds making their religion happen with their own hands.

>>149736218
>I wonder where evil rule-breaking female wrights end up.
Working for Sonorie on black site projects.

>>149725316
Yeah, though I obviously missed the early bids despite checking often. Shame, because as a guy from Europe, I'm going to be GUTTED.

>>149729442
This will always be too fucking dorky and cute to be lewd

>>149745785
It gives my heart a boner.

She is going to experiment on Lem's dick

>>149725000 (OP)
kek

>>149743569
Geffies really are lemmings who cannot contemplate breaking boundaries.

What do you guys think Nary's deal is? Do you think he really is just another Sharteshanian rogue? I was struck by how much of a cold fish he comes across in chapter 13. He's pretty noncommital to all of Beadman's questions, and if we think of Jab Beadman as the summit of Sharteshanian society Nary looks like he's looking well past Beadman when we get the close up on his eye. That panel of him looking directly at the reader when he says 'Ain't that what all men want?' is striking too.

OTOH we know he had passion, given his involvement with Sette's mother, and he looks like he rules his gang with an easy and violent hand in all the flashbacks. It could just be down to the difference in daily living: Beadman's suited, Nary comes in wearing his bracers and carrying at least 3 knives. But IDK, I thought it was interesting he looked a touch softer in the flesh than he does in Sette's flashbacks (which would make sense) but seemed if anything even more dead-eyed.

>>149746335
When we see Nary in Sette's flashbacks we're not just seeing his actions but how Sette feels about him- Sette talks up his importance and grandeur as a coping mechanism for her own lot in life- the daughter of a criminal, a criminal herself.

Nary IS just a rogue from Sharteshane. He's powerful within his own city, but one city of power and influence is not what someone like Nary a Care wants anymore. He wants to be MORE- he wants to work with people running countries. I think he mostly is trying to be professional here.

Also really interesting to compare and contrast Nary's "Ain't that what all men want? To mean something. To Stick." with all the talk of making through the comic- compare with Rahm, and how the things you make melt into the Khert. With Siya, talking about artists being dead but still here as you observe and live amongst their art. Duane made children. People trying to "make" something permanent in an impermanent world is a recurring theme of Unsounded, all the way up to The Man

>>149746335
He played a big role in the bird's plot so it's not impossible that he has some kooky designs of his own now that go far above what even Beadman knows. He might even be directly involved with Lady I's rival senet beast. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point during book 2 he's going to drop some kind of dramatic reveal that would put him at the top of villain hierarchy there and then.
>And now for my personal plan to rewrite reality

>>149746335
I think the cold fish affectation is just him trying to avoid revealing any weak spots or avenues of manipulation to someone as dangerous as Beadman. He's definitely a lot more emotional than he lets on - he wouldn't have been as brutal towards Sette if he wasn't.

>>149746335
>Do you think he really is just another Sharteshanian rogue?
I don't know how deep his plans go, but Nary is much smarter than the average Sharte rogue. He knows in the grand scheme of things he is yet another shitty cog in the big Sharte wheel, and when he dies he'll be replaced by another cog, and he doesn't want that.
I can't wait for the Nary chapter.

>>149746897
This is my read as well. I think this is how Sharteshanian culture works. A series of questions and feints where you answer without revealing a vulnerability to be used against you. "If she's mine she'll make her way" "Ain't that what all men want" and so on. It was easy and obvious how to punish the queen for her refusal to work with Beadman. Rilursa was both highly vulnerable and trusted enough to serve as the queen's voice. Maha likely didn't make a secret of them being close. Nary? Even a large chunk of the readership doubts that he loves his own daughter. Do you think that there's much chance someone would try to use her against him?

>>149746335
Nary hates/ is terrified of his own stagnation. In Just look at all this projection. It's no wonder her sold Sette so he can be boss nigga in Alderode

>>149746607
The bird thing is weird. I doubt Nary has an supernatural craziness is going but Sessine chose him specifically to raise sette in a way that no other Sette has been raised and over turn the preprogrammed bullshit of the first soul. The only otherwordly thing I could see would be if actually knew where Sette's Jacaranda is. He claimed he gave him to the tongues but Sessine doesn't have him and somehow doesn't know where he is.

>>149747034
Adding on, I think the looking around is looking for opening, looking for opportunities, weaknesses, and personally accounting for his safety, even in the presence of the most powerful man in Sharteshane, who could easily ensure his safety (or end him) if he wanted.

Nary is on his best behavior both because he understands Jab is out of his depth as a threat and opportunity and because he is being his most professional self. Every word here is an interview, every action a test. Whether that be palming an ashtray deliberately left for him to take with such subtlety that Beadman didn't notice it was gone, showing no obvious weak points, or staying alert to any and all possibilities.

I think you could also read it as him not fully trusting or buying into Beadman, which plays back to that: Beadman is every bit the conman and criminal Nary is, and then some. Why take anything he says or does at face value more than it need be? Of course, he still plans to work with him anyway because he has to. Particularly if he wants to move up in life.
>>149747208
I think either those black tongues weren't really black tongues, but the wandering root equivalent, or they were ambushed by such after retrieving Jacaranda.

>>149747327
He's definitely uncomfortable when Beadman clasps him on the shoulder, and I wonder if that is just the wariness of being knifed that must haunt him in life.

>>149747328
Gives Sette "Daughter of the chieftain" Frummagem a whole new ring, doesn't it?

>>149747208
>>149747327
Nary had an opportunity to interrogate the black tongue about everything related to the reincarnation cycle. That Sette's Jac is missing further puts suspicion on him along with the black tongues involved. I'm not saying that Nary is a 4d chess player, but he definitely was in a position to glean some insights into the grander scheme of things. And he definitely has that specific streak of being fascinated with death and afterlife where metaphysics would be of personal interest to him. I believe he's somewhat like Lem in that regard.

>>149747349
I think it was the difference in power between the two men. Most of the time when we see Nary, he's the most powerful person in the room. No one in his domain would dare lay their hand on him. Maybe those who are closest would be permitted to, but without his express permission no one else would try, and if they did try, certainly they would not be allowed to repeat that mistake. For all manner of reasons this would be outside of the norm for Sharteshanian appropriateness: you could be attacked, you could have something stolen off your person, and even just the general disrespect. I suspect that even if the roles were reversed, except for things like discipline or taking a whore, touch is generally not done by the higher ups to those lower either.

Jab is aware of this, he's a Sharteshanian too. And he's showing Nary exactly where in the pecking order he lies. A friendly enough gesture on the surface, and with no harm at all to Nary from either of the two potential threats, Jab is interested in Nary, not hostile to him. But he is still Nary's superior many times over, and he's also high up enough that he doesn't have to play by the regular social rules.

Nary is carefully displaying his power and skill to show he is capable, and Jab is lazily showing his to signal to Nary that he is unaffected.

>>149747454
Why would he know about Sette's reincarnation cycle to ask? Why would they tell him if he did? Why would they even have had the answers to share from the start? Ilganyag is not always very forthcoming with her boys.

>>149747176
>It's no wonder her sold Sette so he can be boss nigga in Alderode
In a way that's Sessine paying Nary back for raising her daughter. Sette was a nice nest egg investment for him.
>>149747454
>Nary had an opportunity to interrogate the black tongue about everything related to the reincarnation cycle. That Sette's Jac is missing further puts suspicion on him along with the black tongues involved.
And now Nary is in Alderode. That's no accident imo.

>>149747542
>Ilganyag is not always very forthcoming with her boys.
The culprit is likely tittybird's mysterious adversary and his accomplices.

>>149728084
he looked like that on the vegleng over litriya, he's been hitting the glut since Duane died

>>149747542
>Ilganyag is not always very forthcoming with her boys
I wouldn't say that it's a rule. On the contrary, she always gives her important players, such as Cutter, something to work with. She also seems to encourage and appreciate curiosity. Had Nary demanded answers, she would absolutely spin him a tale, all with the intention of making him cooperate of course. She did much the same to Duane.

Going back to Cutter. He had a very detailed, if misleading, idea of what Ilganyag's return to the world would entail. All of that despite himself being ultimately disposable in her plans. Nary, whose role was much more crucial, could have easily been given his own version of events, that may or may not have nudged him to side with Ilganyag's enemy instead.
>Why would he know about Sette's reincarnation cycle to ask? Why would they tell him if he did? Why would they even have had the answers to share from the start?
The entire situation clearly affected him deeply on emotional level. He didn't have any of the specifics but looking for answers, possibly by force, would be an understandable way to cope. He also had the magic science man right there to shake for those answers.

>>149725000 (OP)
Hot damn, looking good even in the middle of torture.