Why don't conservatives understand that they are being made fun of here and they are in on the joke? Southpark hates them, this isn't something you can play off.

>>149744170 (OP)
The conservatives are melting down. Everything is falling apart around them. Democrat approval is surging and people aren't buying anti immigrant rhetoric anymore. They are just floundering.

>>149744170 (OP)
Nigger its not about understanding its about getting fucking clicks by any and all means necessary. Conservative fucks will take any attention they can fucking get if they can make a quick buck about it. Its the same as the shitlibs who shitted on video games for being pervy and """"cried""""" about getting harrased(which they were able to spin to tv spots and shit, horseshoe theory is a bitch aint it?)

When is the episode coming out again?

>>149744170 (OP)
The girl was being made fun of too, though?

>>149744209
The college girls wasnt the one with her pants down master debating anon(but by god I wish they did go for that joke I needed that)

>>149744170 (OP)
Most politcal social media accounts don't actually give a shit they're just in it for the money. Remember when they found out that one guy who ran like a dozen both left and right accounts? Or the guy who ran like 6 different websites telling the same story but just wording it in a positive or negative light depending on the target audience?

the internet isn't genuine any more. it's just bots and hustlers.

>>149744170 (OP)
It's called coping, OP. Although I feel this is just another seething falseflag thread made to turn the board into your political battleground

>>149744170 (OP)
>PLEASE BE MAD! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SCREECH AND SEETH!
>YOU DON'T GET IT WE'RE MAKING FUN OF YOU! YOU DON'T GET TO LAUGH IT OFF!

>>149744170 (OP)
They have no argument, southpark is literally destroying the right in America.

>>149744170 (OP)
People are allowed to have a sense of humor about themselves, OP.

>>149744229
Or all those Indians running tradcuck accounts with Greek statue avatars talking about being based tradcaths and how not gay they are

>>149744244
noooo trust me trump was so mad about the small penis jokes

>>149744198
>Everything is falling apart around them
>Democrat approval is surging
Why didn't dems win the election if republicans were this hated?
Was it just a magical moment or something?

>>149744170 (OP)
/co/?

>>149744273
He's clearly coping and crying.

I'm getting a lot of "democrats pretending people who ignore them are actually really mad" cope from those threads. Shouldn't you be focusing on politics and elections? Where are the debates?

>>149744280
People were sold lies by people like joe Rogan and got sucked into maga conspiracies. It's why we need to crack down hard on misinformation on the internet once we win in 2028.

>>149744303
All we have to do is sit back and let the right destroy itself.

Ratiod

>>149744280
Why would we vote for Diet Republicans? It's not very inspiring. Americans have been rejecting neoliberal centrism for decades now, a socialist was nearly Presisent. Socialists are continuing to make gains on the municipal level though and the aging failed leadership of the Democrats is about cooked thanks to defending Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.

>>149744303
Responding isn't ignoring.

You could in theory try to respond to something to make it sound like you don't care though.

"Oh what you think my teeth looked fucked up? Well thank you, I have always admired dolphins"

>>149744280
Republican policies are more hated NOW then they were just 6 months ago anon. Its not like Trump was sucking Netanyahu's dick thoughout the campaign, but now he cant fucking help himself and people are in a fit about it, among other things.
Although the Dem approval thing surging is just a lie, hell depending on how primaries go almost every fucking Dem you see in the house and senate will more then likely be replaced, whether its by fucking commies or republicans thats up in the air

>>149744317
doesn't seem to work that well right now.

>>149744354
I'm not even american.

>>149744358
They meant financially anon, politically we still got a fucking year for any kind of backlash to be measured

>>149744355
I don't think people believe the USA wouldn't defend the genocide if Kamala won. Shit like "defend Israel at all cost" is something both side say regularly.

>>149744362
Well I could have told you that

>>149744198
Said that when the Real-life Norsca that is the Islam destroy everything you love.

>>149744170 (OP)
Is this some kind of reverse bait thread?
Even Rush Limbaugh had a sense of humor about it btw

>>149744341
You're a far left lunatic. Objectively the democratic party has been moving further left, and now their approval rating is in the gutter. People voted for neo liberal centrism when they voted for Biden over trump, they got crazy woke shit. But you are so far left you think in spite of having the most left wing administration in history you unironically think the problem was that they weren't left wing enough. No, you lost because people fucking hate the left. They hate mass immigration, they hate feminism. Those are the facts and you can't ignore it. People do support certain left wing populist economic policies, but they don't support giving immigrants free housing.

But you're delusional and you actually think you lost because you need to go further left. You can't admit your worldview is just shitty and wrong.

>>149744199
Funny, you actually described the Left and the Woke.

>>149744261
They don't, they are Destroying Both sides

>>149744355
The only "Democrats" surging right now are socialists, usually affiliated outright with the DSA. But look if you're tired of oligarchy then you really do need some socialism to repair our democracy. If you don't redistribute the hoarded wealth of the elites they'll just buy out the government and do it all over again. Without oligarch financial influence we'd be looking at socialism-libertarianis-conservativism; with it we're stuck with centrism-conservatism-fascism.

>>149744198
>>149744355
The Democrats are 30 points under water.

What people and the left don't understand is that most of Trump's base are actually to the right of him. /Pol/ shit is basically mainstream talking points now. Rightoids are throwing a fit at Trump shilling for Israel and not releasing the Epstein files. They don't want to die for Israel, they want pedis hanged, they want more deportations and reverse migration. Trump's wants LEGAL immigration.

None of these people pissed at Trump are going to suddenly love 2015 feminist talking points and mass immigration again and vote Democrat, they are just going to primary Vance with someone even more right wing.

>>149744388
Take your meds.

>>149744378
I'm not afraid of Muslims, they are good people. I'm afraid of actual terrorists, white dudes.

>>149744339
>>149744170 (OP)
thats not a ratio m8
are you drunk?

>>149744170 (OP)

because they thrive off hate and attention? this south park shit is going to increase this grifter's reach and influence.

>>149744308
>Sold lies
Okay so then why didn't the better lies dems had lose?
>>149744341
That's what I'm asking. Why would they vote for Diet Republicans if they are aware they don't like them.
>>149744355
>No! Republicans are more hated now!
Is that why No Kings Protest overthrew Trump and he's out of the white house now because it was such a huge success?

Maybe he likes the show
woah

>>149744385
>Objectively the democratic party has been moving further left
What like nationally? In what way? Because our high water mark for national influence was 2020 through the Sanders campaign, which generated enough support for socialism that just about *everybody* was pitching some kind of medicare for all adjacent policy. This was the era of UBI being on the table, the Green New Deal's construction. You can see what Biden did to that dream lol. Democrat politcians have gone way to right of their base. They'Did you not notice how hard they're championing Israel despite a lack of support? Leadership won't even touch prosecuting ICE. And Kamala went to court the same cryptocurrency tech creeps that Trump did.

Besides in a democracy you need the government to move to where the popular will is, regardless of how you feel about that, or you lose the democracy. If socialism is popular in a democracy then to arbitrarily deny the peoples' will isn't democratic, it's fascism. That's the mess we're in now, been getting worse & worse since the 90s.

>>149744170 (OP)
Reminder that Charlie Kirk would never debate GODstiny. The conservative and far right slayer.
>B-BUT HE'S GAY
Yes chud. We support bisexuality unlike you.

it is happening again

>>149744459
didnt this guy literally suck fuentes' cock?

>>149744198
>DEMOCRAT APPROVAL IS SURGING
fucking where their more hated than republicans

>>149744442
>That's what I'm asking
Trump says "I will deport all these pet eating bandidos, like the doritos bandido remember him? I will deport them all....back to Hell if we have to folks, by God! And thatll put money in your wallets folks, almost like 'whats in your wallet?' "

Kamala "Yo so una sorry about your abuelita but we need to deport her, to death if need be."

Voters "Everything is too expensive, where is my healthcare, stop murdering Palestinians, why do we have billionaires?"

What did anyone think would happen?

>>149744170 (OP)
>this isn't something you can play off.
yes it is

>>149744425
Only actual and "Useful Idiots" for them would say such Stupidity.

>>149744198
Both conservatives and liberals are fucked and retarded. They went too extreme in opposite directions and pulled the country apart with them. Normal people just want it to be 2015 again.

>>149744424
Those aren't for me, Woke Blight.

>>149744198
I wouldn't say the democrats are surging at all right now.
They just need to run a white guy (and not a literal indian black woman) who supports illegal deportation (while stealthy making it easier for immigrants to immigrate legally + due process for illegals).
Also drop the tranny shit until later where they have more control. That's literally it. Don't go too far until the time is right.

>>149744388
NIGGER I KNOW I FUCKING DID I LITERALLY SAID SHITLIBS YOU RETARD AND IM LUMPING YOU IN WITH THOSE FUCKS NOW FUCK OFF

>>149744339

>>149744170 (OP)
Are they going to talk about Gaza?

>>149744459
Destiny has had sexual relations with BOTH Nick Fuentes and Lauren Southern (their queen). The /pol/tard worshipped ecelebs. Really makes you think.

>>149744494
The only direction national politicians went and are going is to the right. While most voters care about traditionally leftist issues now discarded by the centrists who prefer funding Forever Wars & Forever Jails over medicare for all or repairing old bridges. Its why DSA socialists have been making gains in cities and state congresses for 12 years now.

>>149744170 (OP)
Because they know Matt and Trey want them to be angry.

Most smart people have realized that Matt and Trey live off the anger of others. Whenever someone gets angry at them they just go “LOL JUST A JOKE BRAH? CANT TAKE A JOKE? IT JUST PARODY!!” and that makes you look bad.


However, if you laugh at yourself, it makes Matt and Trey pissed off.


Just look at Paris Hilton.
She made Matt and Trey SEETHE AND COPE just by saying she didn’t watch the episode that made fun of her but that she is sure they made a funny episode.


Matt and Trey live off the seething of others, and the best way to make them seethe is to just laugh.

>>149744525
>However, if you laugh at yourself, it makes Matt and Trey pissed off
Thanks for the inside scoop Charlie

>>149744452
The democratic party has continued to shift left heavily since 1994 which any political analyst will tell you. I actually am studying polysci and we went over this in my course on political game theory. The days is there based on expressed stances and voting records.

The positions that the democratic party adopted were to far to the left of the median voter, that's why they lost. You don't want to accept that because you want to double down on the far left policies that cost you every branch of government which you can't explain why you lost outside of everyone just being brainwashed by joe Rogan.

Kamala Harris was never popular. She got destroyed in the democratic primary in 2020 and was literally and explicitly picked as VP as a bone to throw to the progressive base. Based on her voting record (which she tried to hide) she was literally the most left wing senator currently holding office.

You want to know why the Democrats desperately tried to pivot rightward in 2024? Because that's what the data showed what people wanted. They were going to get creamed, they knew the white house was a lost cause, so they tried to save themselves down ballot. The Democrats actually did a good job with damage control all things considered.

Socialism is not the will of the people based on actually data and that's the problem you don't want to fucking admit. You're out of touch. Republicans are too but they're less out of touch than the Democrats who went off the rails. You are ignoring popular will. If you care about popular will you'd be in favor of mass deportations. Are all the left wing governments in Europe fascist for ignoring how unpopular mass immigration is? Probably not to you, you think it's a good thing.

>>149744525
Bro you're coping.
I thought Matt and Trey were just libertarians who just satirized everyone.
But this episode was lefty as fuck.

>>149744198
>racists never win in the end.
You think conservatives would have learned that with ww1,ww2, the civil war

>>149744494
Everything is bad if its went to extreme.

But Everyone know what side is the Right one here.

>>149744548
ask palestinians about that
lmao

>>149744295
Any joke about the woke right is an attack on their culture

>>149744546
Not to mention what the Woke/DEI have done.

Only Stubborn fools, Blinded, Brainwashed and Zealot Idiots of this Self-destructive toxic Ideology would say is a fallacy

>>149744504
... ok.

>>149744198

>>149744548
ww1 and ww2 soldier were absolutely far right racists by your own standards though

>>149744546
The left are living in a delusion. Like you said, they legit think that the reason they lost was because they weren't socialist enough. They actually need to be more pro immigration! They keep reusing the same tired arguments. People are unapologetically racist now and they think a progressive socialist utopia will come about any day now.

>>149744507
we don't do that here

>>149744546
>The democratic party has continued to shift left heavily since 1994 which any political analyst will tell you
Maybe if they work for the establishment

>I'm studying polisci!
Oh ok lmfao

Notice you named 0 policies there. Thats why establishment politicos love this fucking excuse, it's old as dirt. Centrists don't want to pass popular legislature like medicare for all or look into popular issues like wealth inequality because it'd upset the donor class; and of course their own Pelosi'd up stock portfolios. So how do you get by winning elections? Well you just do whats cheap. Skip the policy talk and heap on the platitudes, like Kamala running her campaign based on "joy" vs Zohran Mamdani taking time to explain how his policies will reduce the cost of living for working class New Yorkers. It's covering up for a bad job.

And this is actually pretty well known, your professors know too. Ask them about Neoliberalism and how Clinton reinvented the Democrats in the 90s to be Diet Republicans following Reagan. Talk about why Tony Blair's friends over in the UK hooked up with the Clintonites.

Ask why actual left wing movements like the anti globalisation & pollution protests that were heavily prosecuted in the 90s? If Democrat politicians were so far left why weren't they against the Iraq War? They supported it for years, some still basically do. Why did they oppose Occupy Wallstreet? You can do this all day. Why did we only get Mitt Romneycare (Obamacare) instead of medicare for all? Why did Obama pardon the bankers? Why didn't he bail out the working class?

We have gone way, way to the right and it's why everything keeps getting pricier while the oligarchs who pay the politicos your professors study tell them to blame the left.

>>149744604
>Like you said, they legit think that the reason they lost was because they weren't socialist enough
Didn't read the rest. But you are BEYOND DELUSIONAL if you think democrats and liberals are anywhere close to being socialist. You're just another low IQ rural retard who falls for obvious propaganda.
The actual far left hates libs/dems.

>>149744575
4 years of DEI didn't seem to do anything at all, a few months of Trump's DUI hiring policy and everything's more expensive, jobs are scarcer and his oligarch friends keep getting richer. Now I hear we get to pay tariffs to help those poor elites with their financial burdens. Hurrah.

>>149744627
Why are libs so desperate?

>>149744627
>Ask why actual left wing movements like the anti globalisation & pollution protests that were heavily prosecuted in the 90s?
Hey I'm sorry it's late here, I didn't finish my thought; I'm essentially just listing left wing movements Democrats sprinted away from while looking for the cheapest least impactful possible alternatives.

"Hmmm no sorry we can't prosecute anyone who caused the 08 Recession...but uh you know we thought it and black people can be CEOs too. Gays can probably even get married if I'm not up for reelection."

>>149744170 (OP)
I’m conservative and I thought the episode was funny

>>149744280
>Trump campaigns claiming he would release the Epstein files, lower prices, lower unemployenent, not start a new war, lower taxes, lower public spending, etc.
>people vote for all of that
>in six months he denies the existence of the Epstein files, causes price increases, increases unemployment, bombs Iran at the behest of Netanyahu, gives away billions of taxpayer dollars so Israel can kill Gazans more effectively, increases taxes, increases public spending, etc.
>"wtf why would anyone turn against him?!?!?! It must be CNN lies!!!!"

>>149744664
Well all the reasons I stated really. Liberals are beholden to oligarchs and losing ground because more and more people they used to charm are too affected by their failures to buy into it; wealth inequality, poor healthcare, ecological collapse, etc. People who care about these things are becoming more socialist and/or libertarian; whether by those names or just in preferred policy. Meanwhile fascists will lie and say almost anything if it ends with a strict hierarchy they profit off of. So that's a flexible customer base to churn and burn + diehard cohort of brand loyalists.

In short the Liberals are losing to Fascists & Socialists. The Fascists are trying to crush the Liberals who are desperate to contain the Socialists before they beat the Fascists and seize the party apparatus (and payroll software lol).

>>149744548
US soldiers said they'd rather lose WWII than end segregation

>>149744689
>I’m conservative and I thought the episode was funny
You're in the minority but are based.

>>149744627
>We have gone way, way to the right and it's why everything keeps getting pricier while the oligarchs who pay the politicos your professors study tell them to blame the left.

Yeah except that's not true at all.

And yes, the Democrats in the 90s under Clinton reinvented themselves to model themselves after Reagan but with more left wing social politics. They had to do that because people wanted Reaganism and they couldn't continue without restructuring to the right (which they'll have to do again).

You're absolutely wrong in insisting that the Democrats have been moving to the left since the 90's. We're experiencing political polarization not alignment to the right, that's what all the fucking data shows. Both sides have gone further in their respective directions but the Democrats moreso.

You're acting like social policies don't count as real policies, and that's where the real shift has been. There's denying that there has been a major shift that direction. There is also more people in the Democrats that openly proclaim themselves socialist and communist. They don't get anything done but politics is about optics. Back in the 2000's calling democrats socialist was viewed as being a hyperbolic conservative nut job. Now a lot of democrats are proud of the label.

>If Democrat politicians were so far left why weren't they against the Iraq War?

Because nigga we are talking about where the party stands nearly 20 years later compared to the median voter. They have gone further left over time, especially on social issues. Shit like mass immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, support for feminism, ect. Also the left supported occupy.

We have not gone way to the right unless you defining right as pro establishment. The establishment doesn't care about left and right it cares about power. You'll find tons of right wingers who want to hang bankers and cooperate CEO's, look at how the right threw a fit over the possibility with war over Iran.

>>149744627
>>I'm studying polisci!
>Oh ok lmfao

Also yeah you can make fun of me for my career choice but let's be real there are no good careers anymore, so I study what I'm good at and enjoy just to get a bachelor's. Thankfully don't have student debt though.

>>149744744
Gee but not all of them though huh? And not forever. And also not the black soldiers.

Yeah I mean I guess it's almost like if you seriously think about protecting future generations, you'd pretty much have to take pride in them developing more than you. Like yeah you should think I'm a bit savage, I lived through the Depression; I did that so you don't have to and now you can use that free time to better society. The alternative is an eternity of self hating wimps who are afraid to outperform their fathers' father; he did't have running hot water dude you're afforded a lot more free space to develop your mind and spirituality.

>>149744641

>>149744640
What I said was the left, as in you and all the other retards on your side, think the problem is you guys need to be more socialist and more right wing when the problem is clearly that the Democrats are way to far left and people are sick of it.

>>149744627
>>149744708
What you don't want to admit is that the winning platform is socialism and white ethno nationalism....like some kind of.... National Socialism?

>>149744425

>>149744753
You don't understand, Lenin isn't literally president so the Democrats are basically Nixon!

If you're to the right of Jeremy Corbyn you're a Republican!

>>149744753
>We're experiencing political polarization not alignment to the right, that's what all the fucking data shows.
Voters yes, politicians no, national politicians certainly not. I made this distinction clear.

I don't believe economic & social issues are seperatable in most cases. Women denied abortion are more likely to go into poverty, the Irish and Italians were able to use an expanding middle class to assimilate into society. It's the same thing. That's why I emphasize that Democrats only do what's *cheap* and doesn't threaten the oligarch donors' businesses. So something like gay marriage once it's popular and you're not up for reelection, that can be done. But any of the thousands of leftist policies and issues that cut against corporate profits well those are out of consideration now.

>They had to do that because people wanted Reaganism
I'm breaking to highlight this because it's a stinker: how can they be said to want Reagnism if nothing else was on offer? Where was the socialism of the youth or even the vaunted New Dealers? Crushed under a corporate boot. If I only sell seafood at my snack shack, do I really have the data to say whether seafood is more popular than beef? Takes us to:

>Back in the 2000's calling democrats socialist was viewed as being a hyperbolic conservative nut job. Now a lot of democrats are proud of the label.
This is just a weird way of framing people finally getting offered beef and ordering it. And again the socialist victories are mostly municipal & statewide but they are growing. I see that less as the party having a consistent leftward trajectory since the 80s (or whatever) and more as a result of failed politicians being replaced with suppressed options. Outsiders have appeal!

>>149744761
Oh hey man I didn't it like that. It's good you're school too. Just study hard as you can, by being even a little curious and intellectual you're leagues above half of these other guys.

>>149744779
That sounds insanely unpopular, people are already turning against ICE and you want to go further right with the racism? It's not realistic. We haven't even had investigations into Alligator Auschwitz yet.

>>149744627
Do you understand that the left and right shit is a spectrum?

It can be true that the democratic party has moved to the left a lot (which they have) and still not be "leftist". You're defining at as binary. That you're either a full on leftist socialist or you're right wing. That's not how it works. Biden isn't right wing. Kamala isn't right wing. The left doesn't have a monopoly on being anti establishment. The left includes neoliberals. The Republicans are diet Democrats not the other way around. The Democrats always push policy while Republicans do fuck all but cut taxes for the rich. The left largely simped for the establishment under Obama and Biden while the right went schizo about international banking and globalism. Ever listen to Alex Jones? Meanwhile the US government funded insane left shit for decades.

at what point are people going to realize you can't put 4chan logic into politics or pop culture or ANYWHERE EXCEPT FUCKING HERE

this race to the bottom to get the last word in and prove your opponents are 'crying' or 'coping and seething' literally only works when you're arguing with a bunch of faceless nobodies trying to farm (You)s off you and not actual people in positions of power, why on god's green earth is South Park of all fucking things a serious political consideration right now instead of just being a goddamn satire cartoon

>>149744763
wasn't that term invented by a pedo

>>149744641
>anything at all
Are you serious? Males are discriminated so hard at jobs and promotiond that young women are out earning men of the same age due to DEI policies

>>149744170 (OP)
I have no idea who this is, and I'm not sure why I should care.

>>149744842
>Do you understand that the left and right shit is a spectrum
Do you understand that's only one way to model it, as a binary measurable spectrum? And do you understand that viewing politics as more ideological & sociological than quantifiable & chartable is another valid way to view things?

>The left includes neoliberals
Absolutely not. We derive the term "left" from the French Revolution, it means against hierarchy & tradition. Neoliberalism is pro hierarchy and compromising with tradition. Neoliberals actively attack the left and keep it out of power as a matter of policy. There's nothing there, neoliberalism is and always was the corporate attack against New Deal era socialism. That's hardly leftist to me and if your model says that the left is Martin Luther King Jr *and* Jon Fetterman then that's a bad model. It doesn't clarify anything, it muddies the waters.

>>149744835
>That sounds insanely unpopular, people are already turning against ICE and you want to go further right with the racism? It's not realistic. We haven't even had investigations into Alligator Auschwitz yet.

Look dude, you have to be really really out of touch to not understand that people are going further and further to the right on immigration across the West including America. Polling numbers indicate that. You are not winning the immigration issue, it's what's killing you. You want to know why the left wing party in Denmark made gains? They went hard against immigrants and passed laws even controlling the permitted ethnic makeup of cities. Everywhere else including America establishment parties lost ground in favor of right wing populists largely because of immigration. People do not want a bunch of third worlders imported into their communities. Look at Springfield Ohio, it's a democratic stronghold that went for Trump last election cycle because of the hatians there. This trend is only continuing and people aren't going to suddenly change their minds and love immigration from the third world. Yes, it's unironically racism, and it's increasing. You can hate that, but it's reality.

>>149744842
>Republicans are diet Democrats not the other way around.
Yup. This image is a black pill for /pol/fags.

>>149744753
NTA but also a leftie
>Both sides have gone further in their respective directions but the Democrats moreso.
Is the key argument on why the Dems lose
The right integrated their young and vital farther right populist movement into the party with Trump while the Democrats had given only halfhearted acknowledgments to the leftward version of the same energy and generally treat them with distain. Thus creating a "party" disconnected from its most vital and energized members.
The only reason the Democrats have won is because people either like the idea of Trump but he can never fully deliver on the sweeping change he promises or they were mostly passive and are scared into voting against him when he does something scary on their newsfeed.
Likewise the Dems get into office and also fail to do jackshit and the same process continues.
Really what it is, is that more and more Americans want a "political rapture" that instates sweeping changes that they can directly and materially feel.
However no politician can actually give them that so once it becomes clear they can, it leads to abandonment.
>They have gone further left over time, especially on social issues. Shit like mass immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, support for feminism, ect. Also the left supported occupy.
Which half the left barely considers to be anything of value and are disdainful that the Democrats use identity politics as a avoidance tactic for economic policy. And the other half just views them as givens that are only half measures.
>We have not gone way to the right unless you defining right as pro establishment
Which most leftists do.

>>149744874
Women earn less than men in comparable positions actually, women may earn more as a whole in the US overall but that'd be due to increased college attendance.

>>149744888
>Look dude, you have to be really really out of touch to not understand that people are going further and further to the right on immigration across the West including America
Really? Because no one has been electorally presented an alternative to ICE style trafficking & detention methods. And recent polling data shows Americans feeling more positive towards immigrants the more this goes on.

>You want to know why the left wing party in Denmark made gains
No I'm not in Denmark, I'm in America. Lets talk about Zohran's gains instead. Also if your strategy to passing leftist policy is to pass right wing policy, then maybe you ought to go take a long dry shower and think that over.

>>149744461
I just saw a screening where people cheered everytime the bugs got killed.

>>149744198
Stop being a lying nigger faggot pedophile that needs to be kicked in the face until you lose your front teeth.

Republicans are still relatively popular even with the Epstein missteps. Trump is still popular.

Meanwhile Democrats are at rock bottom, as far as being at their most despised and hated by the public, to the point that the public openly are telling them they'd rather deal with Trump as President than let them get power again and rape the country again.

>>149744820
>That's why I emphasize that Democrats only do what's *cheap* and doesn't threaten the oligarch donors' businesses. So something like gay marriage once it's popular and you're not up for reelection, that can be done. But any of the thousands of leftist policies and issues that cut against corporate profits well those are out of consideration now.

Yes, because the establishment is the establishment and it doesn't give a fuck. If left wing politics threaten the elite, fuck you, if right wing politics threaten the elite, fuck you. What you're kind of getting wrong is the idea that the elite are just corpos motivated by profit.

There's a lot of debate about who the elite are. People point to the banks, billionaires, the feds, but it's a cabal of high level bankers, businesses men, and high level politicians. Cooperations that step out of line will also get buck broken. Because these dudes care about control primarily.

You can't define them as right wing. They want mass immigration, if traditional values and ethnic homogeneity gets in the way of profits and control then they'll buttfuck it into the ground. If the left passes workers rights legislation and environmental protections they'll just outsource.

>Reaganism if nothing else was on offer?

Because the Democrats didn't adopt Reagan's platform until after Reagan. The dens were offering something else and it didn't work.

>This is just a weird way of framing people finally getting offered beef and ordering it. And again the socialist victories are mostly municipal & statewide but they are growing.

Because the left have gone further left, as they have for a while. When the status quo isn't working people go to the extremes. So the most fringe parts of the left are growing in number. But respectfully you're misinterpreting that as the median voter becoming more left wing and they aren't, most people are shifting right, and a minority are shifting far left.

>>149744856
I saw your image on /a/

>>149744972
>but it's a cabal of high level bankers, businesses men, and high level politicians
I'm reminded of my dyed in the wool who works at the fringes of Democratic politics just openly telling me that the Democratic part establishment is basically just 5 people (I can only recall Pelosi and Obama off the top of my head right now), their yes men, the Adderall popping zoomer assistants that cover for the geriatrics and by extension are also yes men, and the resented progressive outsiders.

>>149744198
lol

>>149745009
*dyed in the wool relative

>>149744972
>if right wing politics threaten the elite,
That's not possible. Right wing politics are *for* the elite and by the elite, remember these oligarchs are established businessmen. Since it was invented "the right" refers to those who support the traditional hierarchy, the establishment; these billionaire oligarchs we're burdened with as working people.

Profit IS their power.
It's why they'll do anything to protect it in the long term. They'd rather sabotage the economy today if it prevented socialism tomorrow & kept them in power next week.

>They want mass immigration
Not legal immigration, mass *illegal* immigration. If it was legal and we assimilated folks then the oligarchs would have to pay them (and by proxy us) better wages. They don't want labor to move freely just capital. That's why Democrat politicians have been moving to the right nationally on immigration, not just defending Trump's policies but essentially keeping them in place during Biden. Hell Trump only ever was doubling down on what Obama did for ICE.

>The dens were offering something else and it didn't work.
Buster brown do you not even know how that election went down?

>But respectfully you're misinterpreting that as the median voter becoming more left wing and they aren't
They are, statistically speaking at least. Left wing policies & concerns are increasingly popular. It's why you see such victories municipally.

"Respectfully" I think now we're just in a loop where you'll continue to hash about words without listing any historical events or policies to back you up. That's not good enough for me so I'm done. Stay in school and do better than your professors, look up some of these questions if only so you can defend yourself better next time. Get historical, get into policy. I didn't even throw NAFTA at you.

>>149744641
>everything's more expensive, jobs are scarcer and his oligarch friends keep getting richer.
source?

>>149744862
Every Woke Scum says that.

>>149744694
>causes price increases, increases unemployment
> increases taxes, increases public spending
source?

Are we feeling /comfy/ /womfy/?

https://north-park-creations.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters

>>149744280
There's a growing body of evidence suggesting that Trump cheated. And I say that as a Republican.

>>149745108
lol

>>149745039
Anon your conflating corpo leaders and boolickers, with Ethno-Fascists, and Monarchists.
If the Democrats ignore their bases concerns and wants then the right can do it also.

>>149744170 (OP)
you guys are trying a bit too hard

>It's over! I've already depicted you as the Chad, and me as the Soijak!

>>149745117
>corpo leaders and boolickers, with Ethno-Fascists, and Monarchists.
Those are totally compatible and already popularly merged together. Yarvin, Thiel, Musk, Trump, did you think this true or were you being silly? It's all the same thing, preserve and strengthen the existing hierarchy, elevate singular men over the masses. There isn't much friction here at all outside of personal drama.

Also I never really meant to imply this was like 2 discrete bases. It isn't. We're all Americans. And yes Republican voters are ignored as well, they also are to the left of their leaders as a whole.

>>149744874
>Males are discriminated so hard at jobs and promotiond that young women are out earning men of the same age due to DEI policies

Then where are all the sex based discrimination lawsuits? The fact is that men have kept failing at education for years while women have been excelling, that’s why women are becoming more educated and get better jobs while men sit at their mom’s basement bitching online about how college is a scam and they are owed a wife and a home and a job because they’re men.

>>149744919
Immigration is a broad issue affecting multiple countries. You can't discount what's happening in Europe because it's inconvenient for your narrative or beliefs.

People don't want mass immigration. You are going to continue to lose on that issue.

>Really? Because no one has been electorally presented an alternative to ICE style trafficking & detention methods. And recent polling data shows Americans feeling more positive towards immigrants the more this goes on.

And yet republican approval on immigration continues to hold relatively. The Gallup poll that states that people are more favorable towards immigration is explicitly about legal immigration, not illegal. Something that left wingers are using to muddy the waters. And these numbers are just going back to 2021 numbers from before the massive surge. When people feel like an issue is being taken care off they're less concerned.

>>149745108
You mean the guy who has caddies dropping golf balls on the green for him is a cheater? I never would have guessed!

>>149744888
>In Denmark they went right wing

Hasn’t worked in America at all despite how much democrats lean on the right. They’ve completely given up on offering an alternative immigration vision, throw billions at border control every time they’re in power but people still lie and whine that democrats are for “open border” which doesn’t even mean anything except “I am a racist”

>>149744919
>Also if your strategy to passing leftist policy is to pass right wing policy
A strong stance on immigration is a left wing policy.

>>149744965
>the Epstein missteps
electing a president who is both bought and paid for by mossad AND a child-trafficking pedophile was a "misstep"?

>>149745239
Shhhh, don't tell him that unions used to be anti-immigrant.

>>149745073
Take a look outside your window

>>149745289
Shhhh, don't tell them capitalism loves immigration for higher GDP

>>149745039
>That's not possible. Right wing politics are *for* the elite and by the elite,

No that's complete nonsense. The elite have pushed for and continue to push for mass immigration and immigration. The elite literally funded left wing ideology with USAID money from the US government. Banks and billionaires fund left wing protestors and journalists. This is all objectively true. You're just twisting definitions. They are actively anti tradition. Read elite theory. The Machiavellis by Jane's Burnham condensed the writing of Italian elite theory. Everything is top down because that's the way power works. All of the left wing ideological positions come from top down. The CIA literally funded commies and modern art. They're plenty of examples of the working against the right. They're the ones who funded ""woke"". It wasn't grassroots.

>Not legal immigration, mass *illegal* immigration. If it was legal and we assimilated folks then the oligarchs would have to pay them (and by proxy us) better wages.

The elites care about control. They don't want social cohesion, they don't want people to have roots of tradition. I've ranted to high heaven to others about how immigration is class warfare, but even legal immigration still increases the labor pool and suppresses wages. But it's more than about material economics. Profits is a means to and end for control.

Democrats moved to the right on immigration because polls said that's what people wanted.

>Buster brown do you not even know how that election went down?
Reagan won twice, then Bush and Bush was defeated by Clinton when he rebranded Reaganism.

>They are, statistically speaking at least. Left wing policies & concerns are increasingly popular. It's why you see such victories municipally.

They aren't, at least not when it comes to social policies. People want populism. I'd like to see your data because the shift to the right in this country was pretty stark last election and that trend has not changed.

>>149745108
Either that or Americans are really that stupid to vote him back

>>149744198
Bait used to be believable.

>>149744500
after biden im not sure even a white man can save the dems because they still have those whale feminists that will never leave because dems are like women and jews and cannot ever admit they were wrong they are like anchors that will sink this ship

>>149745239
>is
was

>>149744198
I'm sure it seems that way from the losing side

>>149744170 (OP)
It's called being able to take a joke. You wouldn't get it.

>>149745183
>You can't discount what's happening in Europe because it's inconvenient for your narrative or beliefs.
Right but I can and will do it because Denmark isn't comparable to the USA demographically, economically, historically or culturally.

>People don't want mass immigration
I disagree, that "mass" you tack on is doing the heavy lifting here. People are supportive of immigration, we disaprove of the immigration process which renders people "illegal" to pay them less.

This entire thread is just 3 samefags larping as both sides, including my post right now

>>149745369
Its true, i was the anon

>>149745039
>I think now we're just in a loop where you'll continue to hash about words without listing any historical events or policies to back you up.

But I have. I even had a chart. I've defended myself adequately. I'm aware of all these examples, but the problem lies in your framing. You define left wing as being anti hierarchical and anti tradition and we live in a traditional hierarchy according to you so by definition we are right wing. But I don't agree with your assessment.

For one, the establishment is openly hostile to tradition. That's a fact, so that's half the equation gone. So you're only claim is that the establishment is hierarchical therefore right wing. So the Soviet union was right wing then? The issue here is that hierarchy is something that happens naturally and isn't really avoidable because power flows top down from an organized minority inherently. Humans are hierarchical by nature. To say any system that exhibits hierarchy is right wing is to say that a left wing system is practically impossible. Otherwise you rely on the incorrect assumption that humans can be willed to not be naturally hierarchical and power can flow horizontally (it can't).

It's also claiming that even if you are in pursuit of left wing ideals you aren't left wing until they are achieved. It doesn't matter according to you how much closer the Democrats move to your position or how they work towards the same goals, they haven't destroyed hierarchy therefore right wing. Even though the tradition half of the equation is already there. The post WWII order is left wing because it believes left wing assumptions about the world and moves that direction, even if it's not the functional ideal yet.

>>149745239
Agreed, but that strong stance is "you need to receive as many legal protections as needed to keep your dipshit boss from abusing you and by proxy me"

>>149745321
>No that's complete nonsense
Buddy you don't get to decide that, thats what these words mean. You were misled. Go look up the history behind the words you use.

Your post only makes sense if I abritrarily accept that "the left" is everyone from billionaires to the people who call for the abolition, in spite of all historical context to the contrary.

Its just garbage.

>>149745392
I was only ever just me, I type and think fast.

>>149745200
He also cheated his business partners, cheated on all three of his wives, attempted to cheat in 2020 with his fake electors plot...

>>149744170 (OP)
I dunno, I didn't see it. It looked lame.

>>149745397
>But I have
You legitimately named none. I should get some sleep.

>You define left wing as being anti hierarchical
No that the hisrorical definition

>and we live in a traditional hierarchy according
I disagree, we live in the battleground between traditional hierarchy against democratic liberty.

Good night

>>149745308
someone tell capitalism that adding more labor to a market lowers its value

There are people who still watch South Park?

>>149745321
>The CIA literally funded commies and modern art.
You got this backwards..
Actually the CIA funded and supported postmodern art because the soviets championed realism, and so they tried to drown realism out of the market by funding exhibitions and paying artists across western Europe for doing anything but which turned out to be postmodern shit most of the time.
The entire western art scene of the second half of the 20th century was born for the CIA's lack of discretion.

>>149745363
>Right but I can and will do it because Denmark isn't comparable to the USA demographically, economically, historically or culturally.

But people from somalia and the middle east are? I know that's not what you're saying but it's just ironic to make a statement like that. But it's also just wrong because like Denmark we are a western nation with a western tradition so we are certainly more similar to them than a lot of the immigrants who are coming in. The comparison is apt. Mass immigration is a western phenomena not limited to America.

>I disagree, that "mass" you tack on is doing the heavy lifting here. People are supportive of immigration, we disaprove of the immigration process which renders people "illegal" to pay them less.

In America specifically people are generally supportive of "legal" immigration. And there is an association that legal immigration = less because the process inherently inhibits large groups of people from coming in. Americans want people to go through process, be vetted, and integrate. A growing number oppose immigration in general. No matter what immigration suppresses wages because the more workers you have the less each person's labor is worth. All of the indians coming in with H1B are technically legal but people aren't happy with that either. And at the end of the day people also do not want their communities changed, look at Springfield Ohio. They don't mind have a immigrant neighbor, but they do mind living in a majority immigrant neighborhood.

>>149745438
mostly boomers

>>149745438
I wouldn't necessarily use the word "people".

>>149745402
>Buddy you don't get to decide that, thats what these words mean. You were misled. Go look up the history behind the words you use.


No it is nonsense. Even if they establishment does left wing policies you still call then right wing. If a billionaire funds left wing protestors what do you call them? It's a fixation on the function of power which doesn't make something right or left wing.

>>149745438

of course not, they just repost news articles about how the latest episode totally owned the (other side)

>>149745508
can't you chuds just let us have this? At least pretend to be broken up about it.

>>149745471
>But people from somalia and the middle east are
A working class guy from Somalia has way more in common with me than any oligarch, doubly so the longer he's in my country enjoying our culture. I'm not some fearstriken racist or delusional race hustler clinging to a modernist identity my ancestors never even recognized. Fuck that noise. We can make it possible to migrate here legally, we don't need mass human trafficking at a huge mark up.

>>149745499
>No it is nonsense
History is nonsense? I get you're trying to type like me, but think clearly. Go look up where we get those terms "left & right" from. Clearly you have fucked up when you've got the Black Panthers & Wal-Mart on the same side in your head.

>>149745471
>In America specifically people are generally supportive of "legal" immigration.
Pure pretenses, the just love to see ICE crack down on brown people regardless of their legal status

>>149745552
>Yeah, who else will clean your toilets Donald Trump

>>149745568
The White American Male will... For a worthwhile wage, because the labor deficit creates a sellers market.

>>149745526
>History is nonsense? I get you're trying to type like me, but think clearly. Go look up where we get those terms "left & right" from. Clearly you have fucked up when you've got the Black Panthers & Wal-Mart on the same side in your head.

You posit yourself as the historically literate one but you're not. I know about the anthropology of the left, the French revolution, the Jacobins, and origins of progressive thought (which actually predates Marxist thought and Marxist constantly get subverted by progressives). I've read read Rousseau and locke, and tons of other authors like Berlin and Cohen. You can't even answer the question, if a billionaire funds left wing causes then what is he? If he forwards left wing ideology, what is he? Function of power is not as defining as ideological goals.

>>149745589
You couldn’t even find white workers to work the fields when MAGA farmers tried to hire only Americans and offered wages above minimum wage and also healthcare

>>149745589
>>149745613
Why is it always about race?

>>149744198
This is definitely true... even though a republican won the presidency

>abrupt lolrandom Peanuts reference to end the show
There's plenty to criticize about the episode without even mentioning politics

>>149744494
>Things are so fucked 2015 looks good
jesus christ how horrifying

Outside the raid on heaven and pretty much everything that happened at mar a lago, the episode kinda fell flat and repetitive.

>>149745613
Just means they weren't wiling to pay well enough.
>>149745622
Because Race is an easy divider. Like I'm white and so saying something like "all Indian people should be purged" not only would liberate the tech industry from the worst of tis toxic culture outside of the startup sphere, but that also frees up a bunch of white collar programing jobs.

>>149744198
Democratic approval is not surging, they lost what should've been a layup election because no one trusts them after they tried to say Biden was actually fine

>>149744339
dude seems to know how to laugh at himself

>>149744339
Kirk is a fag but the Evan guy is one of xitter's absolute worst engagement baiters and clearly bots the fuck out of his likes.

He was also found to have stolen three thousand dollars from his mom and spent it all on internet phone sex back in the day.

>>149744198
Democrat approval is not soaring. Trust in government and the media *in general* is plummeting, the right side is just plummeting faster.

>>149744170 (OP)
I need a webm of krypto getting shot.

>>149746247
Nobody cares about your twitter micro e-celeb to even care about that

>>149744170 (OP)
>libtards angry that conservatives have a sense of humor and can laugh at themselves
Sad.

Why are whites so pedophilic?