Thread 149770455

>flops at the box office
>does incredibly well on VHS

Was it a good movie or not?

>>149770455 (OP)
people today under-estimate how easy it used to be for a family/kids movie to make its budget back purely off home video sales. Movies like Cats Don't Dance, Iron Giant, Osmosis Jones et cetera which bombed at the box office still managed to make a profit in the end from VHS sales.

I get why a lot of people like it, but it's not something I really necessarily care for. It just kinda feels like watching a frankenstein of The Rescuers and Oliver and Company while also being assaulted with these other bizarre and dreamlike images and plots. If preferring The Secret of Nimh and Land Before Time makes me the boring basic bitch, whatever, I accept it.

>>149770455 (OP)
I like Don Bluth but all of his movies gave me a weird sense of dread as a kid.

>>149770455 (OP)
Everything did well on VHS, there was no Netflix

>>149770455 (OP)
>flops at the box office
By modern 4chan standards, not.

>>149770576
The Emperor's New Groove also made a shitton of money off home video sales

>all the Bluth films were butchered in editing by the MPAA, even fucking Rock a Doodle
>He makes a kid friendly film with "A troll in central park" and it's considered the worst

>>149771164
I don't think Secret of Nimh was ever censored. It's a film that has blood, animal experimenting scenes, and minor language like damn and God. If it was altered, I'm not aware of what the changes were.

>>149770455 (OP)
That was very common back in the day. In the non /co/ Landscape, Austin Powers 1 only did modestly (60m on a 15m budget, still good but nothing compared to the sequels) but it did so well on video that the following films broke out

>That bit where she say "I'll miss you Charlie"
It was sad for me as a kid and it's worse with what I know now.

>>149770679
I get the same exact vibe from Cool World

>>149770455 (OP)
honestly, I think this is one of Bluth's worst films. even as a kid I thought it kind of sucked.

it's just kind of a gigantic mess with it's pacing and tone. tries way too hard to be sentimental...the "songs" or rather "musical numbers" bite dick, the whole lovable scamp + innocent little kid has been done to death, the whole moving just being another vehicle for Reynolds and DeLuise gives it an outdated like late 70s vibe.

it just does absolutely nothing for me.

>>149773049
That's just Bluth in a nutshell. He's from another fuckin century. there's good parts of that, and bad.
Bluth was too self-confident due to being shit on at Disney, he really needed a glurge wrangler.
Meanwhile over at Disney they're like "hey.. it's the 1980s.. anime girls are fucking hot. why don't WE make our own hot anime girls?" and so we got the disney renaissance. Those movies feel timeless, Bluth's stuff always has the tone of cartoons from the era when sound was brand new.

>>149770576
Almost every movie eventually made it's budget back. Even if it never had a great amount of fandom.

Blockbuster alone would buy 10K copies of some movie to fill all their stores. Then you had at least two more national rental chains and thousands of local level rental stores doing the same thing.

Then tv appearances also made money back for the studio, making rounds on ABC, Disney Channel or some cable networks made money back. Every movie turned a profit even if it was a total failure in theaters.

>>149773629

Boy ain't that the truth.

Just because a movie has a happy ending doesn't mean you won't still traumatize kids before they get there.

>>149770576
shame that this is no longer possible thanks to streaming and the "wars" big corpos battled for being THE streaming service

>>149774028
Funny how this war is what is causing none of them to be doing particularly well. Disney and paramount could only afford to do this because they already had their own decades long catalogs. Almost none of their original programming has done super well

>>149773812
you forgot making rounds on the pay per view channels and then on the premium pay channels about a year after coming out. The process was

>Theatrical release
>6-8 months later Cable Pay Per View
>10-12 months later the VHS copy
>Blockbuster, Hollywood Video, and all the others bought tends of thousands of copies ensuring a profit
>Then a stint on HBO/Showtime/Starz
>Then it reached regular tv like networks or on cable making more licensing money and ad revenue

Shit like Cabin Boy or Mom and Dad Save the World eventually turned a nice profit after about 3 years or so. Now it has to get $500 million in theaters or else it's a total failure that will never make a dollar ever again.

>>149771110
Didn’t it do well in the box-office? I assumed that was the case since I never really saw it be brought up on the topic of Disney financial bombs. The fact that it got a TV show a few years later didn’t help matters.

>>149771322
yeah there's never been any evidence of any scenes cut or anything, the most we know of is when they had to re-record or edit dialogue to change the name from "Frisby" to "Brisby"

No, Bluth Studio's early productions were great animations and paved the way for a path outside of Disney, but the films were bad. The best thing they did was the games and that scene from Xanadu, holy shit, they didn't need to go so hard on that scene.

>>149770455 (OP)
I remember renting this and hating it.
>>149770679
I know what you mean