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Anonymous No.149771329 [Report] >>149771382 >>149771531 >>149771676 >>149771703 >>149771775 >>149772088 >>149773002 >>149773286 >>149774884 >>149775549 >>149776835 >>149777972 >>149779011 >>149779087 >>149779133 >>149780172 >>149782558 >>149782596 >>149783939 >>149788299 >>149790818 >>149792192 >>149792291 >>149794441 >>149795649 >>149797886 >>149799587 >>149800095 >>149800948 >>149803709 >>149808926 >>149809749 >>149811490 >>149813597 >>149814842 >>149816155 >>149818983
The majority of new animated series are geared for literal goo goo ga ga babies. Why? Are we so creatively brain dead that we can't make mature animated shows? That don't have to rely on being a gore fest?
Anonymous No.149771353 [Report] >>149771388 >>149771439 >>149771821 >>149774207 >>149778825 >>149779735 >>149780708 >>149789813 >>149798477 >>149808393 >>149810537 >>149815074 >>149818108
For some reason after all of the adult and experimental cartoons of the 90s, 00s, and to a lesser extent early 2010s executives suddenly decided that animation wasn't just for kids, but toddlers. Why? No clue.
Anonymous No.149771382 [Report] >>149774207
>>149771329 (OP)
Parents don't want anything that will get their child asking questions, i.e. engaging their brains in a meaningful way, and suits don't want to hear bitching from patents/don't think children could understand anything complex anyways.
Anonymous No.149771388 [Report] >>149771400 >>149815074
>>149771353
I imagine its incredibly cheap and easy to make content for toddlers.
truteal !!r6dgSKY2bVh No.149771400 [Report]
>>149771388
And profitable
Anonymous No.149771439 [Report] >>149774207
>>149771353
Cheaper to produce, write, practically markets itself, and far easier to profit off of because of the aforementioned cheapness. Artistically creative periods like what you described are basically bubbles between decades of mediocre garbage, and this applies to pretty much all of the arts.
Anonymous No.149771497 [Report]
Make your own
Anonymous No.149771531 [Report] >>149771560 >>149771644 >>149786644 >>149789090 >>149802020 >>149812806
>>149771329 (OP)
>find the post this image comes from
>people comment how duplikate doesn't really fit rei
>artist passively-aggressively tells them to draw it themselves
wtf is wrong with people?
Anonymous No.149771560 [Report] >>149812377
>>149771531
Hah. Good question.
Anonymous No.149771644 [Report]
>>149771531
I'd just assume it was Invincible characters drawn as EVA pilots
Anonymous No.149771676 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
It's nothing more than corporate nonsense, as usual. They want to skimp out on the budget for muh profits, so they make anomation have the lowest possible quality. And obviously, the genre that lends itself best to that are modern adult comedies (aka Rick and Morty or Family Guy clones)
Anonymous No.149771695 [Report] >>149771707 >>149815074
Simplest answer: the demographic that was the core animation group no longer exists. Kids 7-13 used to be the money makers, now they only do online content and do not watch shows. So the only audiences left are toddlers 0-6 and teenagers to adults, and they have to choose who to target
And boomer execs will die before admitting animation is largely watched by adults, so now you only get educational shows.
Anonymous No.149771703 [Report] >>149771727 >>149771732
>>149771329 (OP)
Wanna watch Pantheon?
Anonymous No.149771707 [Report]
>>149771695
>so now you only get educational shows.
We are really stretching the definition of educational here
Anonymous No.149771727 [Report] >>149774207
>>149771703
There is no gay or lesbian couples for me to be morally outraged by so no
Anonymous No.149771732 [Report] >>149771801
>>149771703
Why does he have the David Martinez jacket
Anonymous No.149771775 [Report] >>149774207
>>149771329 (OP)
Let's be honest. Even if they made some new animated series aimed at teens-adults, it would be some preachy bullshit.
Anonymous No.149771801 [Report]
>>149771732
Its fanart crossover with edgerunners
Maddie has lucy's outfit
Anonymous No.149771821 [Report] >>149771826 >>149771846
>>149771353
Youtube monetisation & elsagate and their consequences to the cartoon industry...
Anonymous No.149771826 [Report] >>149771862
>>149771821
Then just air them on youtube.
Anonymous No.149771846 [Report] >>149771905
>>149771821
>elsagate
I saw more weird shit browsing Ao3 or Twitter than that literal meme.
Anonymous No.149771862 [Report] >>149771914
>>149771826
They do, though. But only cartoons aimed at children.
Anonymous No.149771905 [Report]
>>149771846
It's more about the astronomical amount of views shitty baby cartoons are getting on YT and the revenues they generated at the time.
Anonymous No.149771914 [Report]
>>149771862
pain
Anonymous No.149772088 [Report] >>149773549
>>149771329 (OP)
At least we will always have the memories.
Anonymous No.149772237 [Report]
I like to think some big executive seethes every time a Digital Circus episode drops
Anonymous No.149773002 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
Sadge
Anonymous No.149773159 [Report] >>149773291 >>149796386
I genuinely feel like comics and cartoons will always fall behind no matter what you do
It's over. The impressive ones are exceptions but you'll always be a weird autist for even knowing then. I'm giving up on drawing
Anonymous No.149773286 [Report] >>149773503 >>149815074
>>149771329 (OP)
There are so many things online competing for kids attention these days, including cartoons made by indies that have more freedom and understanding of their target audience like TADC. The only captive audience left are parents who don't feel comfortable leaving their toddler to the youtube algorism and instead trust mass media corporations to raise their child.
Anonymous No.149773291 [Report]
>>149773159
>I'm giving up on drawing
Don't do it anon..
Anonymous No.149773503 [Report]
>>149773286
staged
Anonymous No.149773549 [Report] >>149773555
>>149772088
Is this from TCW or from Episode 2?
Anonymous No.149773555 [Report] >>149773593
>>149773549
TCW
Anonymous No.149773593 [Report] >>149773784 >>149791981 >>149794358
>>149773555
Nice trips
Props to that show, I know it had Lucas/Disney+ money but I think that visually The Clone Wars post season 3 is the golden standard for CG Cartoons.
Anonymous No.149773784 [Report]
>>149773593
I'd have done unspeakable horrors for Rebels to look like it
Anonymous No.149774207 [Report] >>149795631
>>149771353
>>149771382
>>149771439
This. Said parents and execs have practically stifled animated shows in the west once again, creating a new "Animation Age Ghetto" in the process. Funny how history often repeats itself…

>>149771775
>>149771727
This, too. As much as I wanna check out some of those other animated shows on streaming platforms like Arcane, my biggest gripes are:

1. Modern animated shows that are so far up their ass with progressiveness that makes those shows as phony as a lot of modern TV commercials.

2. Modern animated shows that are either a self-indulgent therapy session or some preachy platform for certain showrunners.

Not trying to say that Arcane is one of those shows, but I'm better off avoiding that series as a precaution. I just wanna watch animated series similar in tone to teen/mature-rated anime for escapism and entertainment, not to be reminded of 2010's social trends I never agreed with in the first place. I'm not in the mood to watching animated shows by some wannabe activist showrunners.
Anonymous No.149774231 [Report]
Anonymous No.149774884 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
What is your favorite animation style
Anonymous No.149775549 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
I guess?
Anonymous No.149776835 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
Nice art
Anonymous No.149777972 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
What else could WE do about it?
Anonymous No.149778825 [Report]
>>149771353
Yeah. We really need more of those.
Anonymous No.149779011 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
define maturity
Anonymous No.149779087 [Report] >>149779209 >>149779745 >>149815074 >>149819067
>>149771329 (OP)
It’s purely monetary. Little toddler content makes money, older kids don’t play with toys or watch cartoons like they used to.
Anonymous No.149779133 [Report] >>149779757
>>149771329 (OP)
watching/reading cartoons as a grown adult is embarrassing in the US.
because of the way teenagers work, it’s doubly embarrassing for them because they blindly want to be adults.
this cultural stigma, if it ever changes, will take centuries to overcome, probably well after cartoons have been “canonized” into classics the same way we do with literature
Anonymous No.149779209 [Report] >>149779862
>>149779087
cartoons don't wome with toys anymore, hasn't been the case since the early 00's.
Anonymous No.149779735 [Report]
>>149771353
I have a feeling that the internet had something to do with it. With TV you had to reach broad audiences with a limited medium. But with the internet you can reach a massive target audience, and since toddlers are the easiest to impress, why not target them exclusively?
Anonymous No.149779745 [Report] >>149779862
>>149779087
boomer detected.
MUH TOYSSSSS
Anonymous No.149779757 [Report]
>>149779133
>watching/reading cartoons as a grown adult is embarrassing in the US.
Considering how popular manga/anime is, no. You're just wrong.
Anonymous No.149779862 [Report] >>149780723 >>149781778
>>149779209
>>149779745
Paw Patrol sells a ton of merch to small kids
Anonymous No.149780172 [Report] >>149781713 >>149782441 >>149789104 >>149792057 >>149798497 >>149811751
>>149771329 (OP)
Would be a good show if not for the forced race mixing
Anonymous No.149780708 [Report]
>>149771353
Money.
Anonymous No.149780723 [Report]
>>149779862
MUHHHHHHHH TOYSSSSS YOU HAS TO SELL DA TOYSSSSSSSSSSS!
Anonymous No.149781713 [Report]
>>149780172
True
Anonymous No.149781778 [Report] >>149782501
>>149779862
toys arrived after the show success, it's not the "glorified toy add" you said earlier (you will denie it of course but at this point who cares).
Meanwhile all supposedly succesful cartoons like AT, SU, TTGo have nothing. Disney let all their modern shows like Molly or Ayley rot without even stickers. Hilda? You are lucky it had a book first.
The totally spies revival had magazines of screenshots sold as comics.
Anonymous No.149782441 [Report] >>149782542
>>149780172
Shut up.
Anonymous No.149782501 [Report]
>>149781778
You can't always have megahits like Adventure Time and Teen Titans Go though. Remember the excuse they gave about DC Nation's shows like Young Justice and Green Lantern being canceled? The show couldnt support themselves on ratings alone, despite having good ratings, and were canceled because they didn't have enough toy sales (or any toy sales, for GL).

Plus, all the shows you listed had merch still. They still sold tons of minifigures, tshirts, and plushies for these series, even if they weren't traditional toys.

There's a reason why there were a thousand different cartoon series in the 80s/90s every single season on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, and WB, and that's because every new cartoon had a toyline ready to make hundreds of millions of dolllars every year as its MAIN SUPPORT. Getting ratings/ad revenue was nothing to them, despite that being the DIRECT way of a cartoon making money.

Shock and awe, now that it's harder for cartoons to get a toyline, there's far fewer cartoons. Today media companies produce cartoons first and then get a toyline later, whereas before the toys came out around the same time as it was broadcast. This is because ratings are so obfuscated now, they don't tell you how many viewers something gets anymore, but "minutes watched." So even if something is broadcast still, you're still only getting a fraction of data about how many people watched it, because the netflix/disney+/hulu views are kept hidden.

So there's not a lot of trust between these media and merch companies anymore, especially because ratings used to be independently verified by a third party company (nielsen, etc). I mean, even merch sales are still independently tracked and verified. It's no longer a two way street, and media companies have always been known to fudge their numbers even before they could hide all the data behind streaming services.
Anonymous No.149782542 [Report]
>>149782441
Why? I'm right
Anonymous No.149782558 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
They should give us a Boba Fett cartoon
Anonymous No.149782583 [Report] >>149786230
Americans have very limited views on what media can be and right now animation that doesn't come from Japan is viewed as something for ultra babies and as a result the market reflects this with a very limited variety of shows.
Anonymous No.149782596 [Report] >>149782638 >>149782672 >>149786918
>>149771329 (OP)
Comics and cartoons are for children. Anime and graphic novels are for adults. The gulf between a kiddie show like ATLA and a show for men like One Piece is staggering.
Anonymous No.149782638 [Report] >>149797847
>>149782596
Stfu tacotranny
Anonymous No.149782672 [Report] >>149810156
>>149782596
One Piece is shoneshit so unless you're baiting kys
Anonymous No.149783939 [Report] >>149786903
>>149771329 (OP)
Because people like you never actually support mature animation
Anonymous No.149786230 [Report] >>149786464 >>149795583
>>149782583
Americans have a very wide view of who animation is for, hence the popularity of it with adults and kids since the 30 and 40s.

The problem is that corporations aren't sure of how they can profit off of them. The government and karens keep changing the rules every decade.
Cartoons can't be advertisments.
Cartoons can't be violent.
Cartoons must be educational.
Cartoons must be moral.
Cartoons can't have hateful farts.
Cartoons must teach sex.
Cartoons must teach socialist values.

Shit's always changing and no one can keep track of this shit. Who wants to fund this shit, especially when the company in charge of funding them don't want to tell you if anyone is watching them or not?
Anonymous No.149786464 [Report] >>149789796
>>149786230
The United States has a massive hangup about comics and cartoons in general that I think comes from the really weird, repressed culture of puritanism that still hasn't been shaken off. Animation cannot seem to shake the stigma of being 'for kids' in the US and it's been insanely harmful for it's development as an artform. Meanwhile, Japan and Continental Europe don't have these hangups and, consequently, can actually consider animated media as a legitimate form of artistic expression and not just an extended advertisement to sell toys.

It's not helped by the fact that drawing is a hard, time consuming process and studios would rather not spend the money to do it well - instead, going for cheap, cheesy 3dcg animation, that's only hammering home the nail of animation failing to be considered 'real art.' Also not helped by the fact that comics continue to be associated with a single genre; men in tights hitting eachother while the author makes a clumsy analogy of racism or US imperialism.
Anonymous No.149786644 [Report]
>>149771531
>wtf is wrong with people?
Many creatives have mental issues and are anti-social.
Anonymous No.149786903 [Report]
>>149783939
>ITS THE CONSOOOOOMERS FAULT
Anonymous No.149786918 [Report] >>149787563 >>149810156
>>149782596
Nice bait. I like One Piece but its still the equivalent of a saturday morning cartoon in the land of the rising sun
Anonymous No.149787563 [Report]
>>149786918
really?
Anonymous No.149788299 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
At least we've got the Mighty Nein to look forward too.
Anonymous No.149789090 [Report]
>>149771531
>>artist passively-aggressively tells them to draw it themselves
Anonymous No.149789104 [Report] >>149789818
>>149780172
this cocksucker doesn't like caramel waifus
Anonymous No.149789796 [Report] >>149791821
>>149786464
And none of that is a problem with the people though. It's why anime is so popular in the first place.

It has everything to do with karens/parentgroups/sjw and the government who listen to the karens/dei/socialists, which disrupts domestic media producers.

Its a very small group of people who fuck it up for the rest of us. Everyone else enjoys their gore, sex, crime, farts, and satans, hence the popularity for this type of shit.
Anonymous No.149789813 [Report]
>>149771353
It's another victim of the Global Financial Crisis causing studios to tighten their purse strings. Note that the last part of the era you mentioned, the early 2010s, is the "lesser extent" part of it. Adult experimental animation is expensive and less guaranteed to make a profit, toddler shit is easy to shovel out and guarantee you get your money back.
Anonymous No.149789818 [Report]
>>149789104
I think anon means Kara/Jimmy, anon
Anonymous No.149790818 [Report] >>149790841 >>149791042
>>149771329 (OP)
Everything 'adult' themed must be a Family Guy clone
Anonymous No.149790841 [Report] >>149790846
>>149790818
What if a cartoon... said fart
Anonymous No.149790846 [Report]
>>149790841
.. Ingenious.
Anonymous No.149791042 [Report] >>149791925
>>149790818
You need to die
Anonymous No.149791821 [Report] >>149795488
>>149789796
But anime is popular with people who already think American animation is limited. America DOES have an issue with how we view media. For most of the population it has to fit into a very narrow box. This wasn't true in the 30s and 40s where media was diverse, but overtime things began to limit themselves.
Anonymous No.149791925 [Report]
>>149791042
Ooooh I'm so scared
Anonymous No.149791981 [Report] >>149791993
>>149773593
>but I think that visually The Clone Wars post season 3 is the golden standard for CG Cartoons
Disney was season 7. Seasons 1 - 6 was ALL funded right out of George's pocket.
Anonymous No.149791993 [Report]
>>149791981
Based George.
Anonymous No.149792057 [Report] >>149792149 >>149792246 >>149797051
>>149780172
Am I the only that sees how much this show panders to reddit weeb faggots?
Anonymous No.149792149 [Report] >>149792224
>>149792057
Not as much as Watchmen (2019)
Anonymous No.149792192 [Report] >>149792293 >>149795336
>>149771329 (OP)
because the kind of show you want isn't expected to be as profitable, it's not a creative problem, it's a business problem. As long as our society only incentivizes raw profit, companies are only going to pursue maximally profitable ventures, and if the numbers tell them that a certain kind of product should make more money, that's what they'll make. Capitalism is antithetical to true art, and on a long enough timescale it can only disappoint you. It's not enough for them to make a good show that will maintain a decent viewership and sell an okay amount of merchandise, there is only room for the MOST viewership, the MOST merchandise, the MOST seasons possible. If the numbers said that a show where Superman takes it up the ass would make more money, that's what they'd make. If the numbers said a show where Superman murders all the nonwhites, they'd make that show. They don't give a shit about anything but pure profit.
Anonymous No.149792224 [Report]
>>149792149
Not social politics wise, I'm talking about anime wise, Lois is a brown short haired tom boy gf, kara has an outfit that's basically android 18, etcetera.
Anonymous No.149792246 [Report] >>149792302
>>149792057
I hate THING that is popular outside of /co/!
Anonymous No.149792291 [Report] >>149792323 >>149792517
>>149771329 (OP)
I'd love a power rangers animated series.. shame JDF is dead..
Anonymous No.149792293 [Report]
>>149792192
>Capitalism is antithetical to true art, and on a long enough timescale it can only disappoint you.
Super Bigote is true art I guess :)
Anonymous No.149792302 [Report] >>149792319
>>149792246
Not really, it's just so obvious with its pandering that I find it tiresome.
Anonymous No.149792319 [Report] >>149792440
>>149792302
>pander
baby's first buzzword
Anonymous No.149792323 [Report]
>>149792291
Shut up Adi
Anonymous No.149792440 [Report]
>>149792319
If you like the show that's fine, it just lacks originality to me which I guess is a moot point to complain about considering its just superman cartoon #10267.
Anonymous No.149792517 [Report]
>>149792291
I don't want to see Hexagon itself but I'd like a GI-Joe esque show where the various teams are united under a larger organization to fight the Alliance of Evil. It'd just be fun to see the mix and matching.
Anonymous No.149794358 [Report]
>>149773593
Bad Batch has INSANELY good animation quality for a show longer than eight episodes a season. God knows how much money they threw at it, they really should make outright animated movies for Star Wars at a theatrical level.
Anonymous No.149794441 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
I don't mind the Invincible art style, just wish they wouldn't spend most of the budget on celeb VAs. Mark and Nolan were enough.
Anonymous No.149795336 [Report] >>149795585
>>149792192
>corporations base their products on what consumers will pay more for
>this is somehow the corporations' fault and not the consumers'
Anonymous No.149795488 [Report]
>>149791821
This isn't a chicken and the egg thing.
There's literally a larger audience for overseas cartoons because it doesn't pigeonhole an entire medium, and can cater to a wide variety of interests.

There's literally a problem with domestic medium can show because a select few interest groups want to limit what a medium can show.

So as a whole, we DO NOT have a hang up with cartoons being able to tell stories to more than just children. This is why a large amount of cartoons are imported into the US, because our domestic producers can not produce media that the general public wants to watch, due to a small minority of people.

The 80s ended 40 years ago, grandpa, and even kids back in the 90s, noticed how much better cartoons could be when there weren't "parent groups" fucking over our cartoons.
I mean, were you even born when cartoons suffered a huge dive ni quality when TV stations were required to run EDUCATIONAL shit if there were any kids watching their station? I sure as fuck noticed the dive in quality when that happened.
Stuff like pic was a piss poor replacement for Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain and network stations like NBC no longer even showed cartoons, because of those educational requirements.
Anonymous No.149795500 [Report]
I'm gonna be honest, most of the stuff people who make/like cartoons are into seems to be really really fucking lame and gay.
Even their idea of "mature" is really lame, gay, and not even particularly mature, it always comes off as whiny teenager shit.
Anonymous No.149795583 [Report] >>149795606 >>149795728
>>149786230
Honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw someone casually smoking in an American animated property that wasn't a comedic sitcom or a long-running show/reboot like Family Guy or KotH.
The only examples I can think of are usually like, stuffy old business men or the like, you'll NEVER see a main or major character in American animation who's a regular smoker nowadays, outside of those shows I mentioned.
Anonymous No.149795585 [Report]
>>149795336
/co/ always refuses to take responsibility for its own actions and admit that if they don’t spend money on stuff they claim to want then it’s not going to get made because there is no money in it and your endless bitching online is empty crying because your opioid doesn’t matter
Anonymous No.149795606 [Report] >>149795616
>>149795583
Because why would you promote cancer sticks to children?
Anonymous No.149795616 [Report] >>149795673
>>149795606
Even you yourself just tacitly admitted that cartoons are for children.
Anonymous No.149795631 [Report] >>149795907
>>149774207

LGBT people are not trends anon. But it's kinda amusing you want escapism from them
Anonymous No.149795649 [Report] >>149795897
>>149771329 (OP)
I think the premise of this thread is flawed. There's still plenty of animated series aimed at older viewers, if anything there's far more than there were back in the 90s and 2000s.
Anonymous No.149795673 [Report]
>>149795616
Because that’s what 99% of cartoons are. That is the reality.
Anonymous No.149795728 [Report] >>149795994
>>149795583
I think that can mostly be attributed to less people smoking in real life than they did 30-50 years ago.
Anonymous No.149795897 [Report]
>>149795649
Yeah, I really don't get what all the complaining in this thread is about. And that's not even taking into considering indie animation.
Anonymous No.149795907 [Report]
>>149795631
>NO DAD YOU DON'T GET IT THE PINK HAIRCUT STAYS I AM CHARLOTTE NOW
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.149795994 [Report] >>149796044 >>149796106
>>149795728
I don't think cartoons have ever really been an accurate reflection of real life, so I don't think that works as an excuse.
I think the actual reason is that the people making cartoons nowadays are the kind of people who'd get pissy about smoking being portrayed as anything but disgusting/abhorrent.
Anonymous No.149796044 [Report]
>>149795994
>I don't think cartoons have ever really been an accurate reflection of real life, so I don't think that works as an excuse.
Honestly I can't argue with that. Animation, like comics before it, has always been a good source of larger-than-life characters.
Anonymous No.149796106 [Report] >>149796141
>>149795994
It absolutely works as an explanation. Cartoons reflect current times.

If that was not true then why aren’t people depicted as still living like it’s the 1910s with ice boxes and using outdated switchboard operated telephones then? Why aren’t they using horses to travel? Why isn’t everyone dressed up like in the 1950s and wearing hats and scarves to protect hair when going outside? Why aren’t everyone shown drinking booze from their little home liquor bars? Why aren’t the streets full of smog and horse dung? Why do people no longer have black maids?
Anonymous No.149796141 [Report] >>149796682
>>149796106
>Cartoons reflect current times.
Okay, but people still smoke in current times, they might smoke less, but they do still smoke.
Anonymous No.149796386 [Report] >>149796432 >>149803839
>>149773159
This.
Want to succeed? Leave the west.
Anonymous No.149796432 [Report]
>>149796386
How about i do my own shit and pay for your pay ticket. So you can chop chop chop chow down to chinatown.
Anonymous No.149796682 [Report] >>149798294 >>149800056
>>149796141
And they need to smoke in children’s cartoons why exactly?
Anonymous No.149797051 [Report]
>>149792057
It could just be your paranoia talking.
Anonymous No.149797847 [Report] >>149798142
>>149782638
gtfo burgergranny
Anonymous No.149797886 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
america
Anonymous No.149798142 [Report]
>>149797847
I'm not american you stupid weebturd
Anonymous No.149798294 [Report] >>149798356
>>149796682
Why not?
They put fat people in kid's shows and being fat is just as bad as smoking.
Anonymous No.149798356 [Report] >>149798377 >>149799869
>>149798294
Why don’t they show people getting high in children’s cartoons? Or fucking? Maybe because parents don’t want it?
Anonymous No.149798377 [Report] >>149798419
>>149798356
Parents don't want gays in kid's cartoons either, and that's never stopped the creators from doing it.
Anonymous No.149798419 [Report] >>149798549
>>149798377
Bigoted parents don’t, normal parents don’t have an issue with it.
Anonymous No.149798477 [Report]
>>149771353
Overprotective parents being Overprotective, and executives having no choice but to back down on creative potential and freedom for the sake of keeping their viewers.
Anonymous No.149798497 [Report]
>>149780172
I still would bang this Lois though.
Anonymous No.149798549 [Report] >>149800102
>>149798419
Most parents are bigoted parents, since most parents now are not white.
You fags can't be consistent to save your life, this is why your shit is dying.
Anonymous No.149799587 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
Cute drawing
Anonymous No.149799869 [Report] >>149799932
>>149798356
>Maybe because parents don’t want it?
These are the same parents who take their little four or five year old to PG-13 movies and complain that they saw a single droplet of blood.
Anonymous No.149799932 [Report]
>>149799869
Yes. People are dumb as hell. Good job noticing this.
Anonymous No.149800056 [Report]
>>149796682
Because smoking is COOL
Anonymous No.149800095 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
Animation will always target the most profitable demographic. In the 70s and 80s, that was young middle school kids who got their parents to buy toys (Transformers, He-Man, etc). In the 90s and 00s, the demographics for toy buyers had aged up by "collectors" and weebs (pokemon, yugioh, teen titans, etc), so that was more high school and some young adults. Now in the 10s and 20s, the most profitable demographic are ipad babies who will stream their slop on repeat for days, they don't even need to buy anything anymore they just need to provide their attention. That's just how the economy works.
Anonymous No.149800102 [Report]
>>149798549
Just two more weeks and those heckin LGBTers will finally be gone and da ten commanderments will be back in da SKEWL. CHRIST IS KANG
Anonymous No.149800948 [Report] >>149800961
>>149771329 (OP)
Should we make our own?
Anonymous No.149800961 [Report] >>149803643
>>149800948
Sure
https://youtu.be/FEGJbTyjTLA
Anonymous No.149802020 [Report] >>149802083
>>149771531
Not their fault people want to get into technicalities over a mindless crossover drawing
Anonymous No.149802083 [Report]
>>149802020
Except the artist could've just explained that it was because they're clones instead of being a cunt.
Anonymous No.149803643 [Report]
>>149800961
It's strange for someone to say that and actually concede instead of crying that it would take too much effort.
Anonymous No.149803709 [Report] >>149803738 >>149803792 >>149803856 >>149804126 >>149805838 >>149807541
>>149771329 (OP)
cartoons are for children
Anonymous No.149803738 [Report]
>>149803709
That mindset is indeed why we are in the shitter.
Anonymous No.149803792 [Report] >>149803889
>>149803709
Yeah no shit, but children range anywhere from babies to teenagers, there should be cartoons for all of them not just the babies
Anonymous No.149803839 [Report]
>>149796386
Ah yes, dealing the toxic Japanese work culture and die by your mid 50's.
Anonymous No.149803856 [Report]
>>149803709
Kys trannyfag
Anonymous No.149803889 [Report] >>149803955
>>149803792
Retard
Anonymous No.149803955 [Report] >>149803969
>>149803889
You're a retard and so's your mom
Anonymous No.149803969 [Report] >>149803980
>>149803955
Stop projecting
Anonymous No.149803980 [Report] >>149804020
>>149803969
Stop using that word if you don't know what it means
Anonymous No.149804020 [Report] >>149804039
>>149803980
I don't care, nobody with such retarded opinions can talk shit
Anonymous No.149804039 [Report] >>149804806
>>149804020
You're the one with the retarded opinion and you're talking shit
Anonymous No.149804126 [Report] >>149805838
>>149803709
Good bait, 8/10 made fags reply.
Anonymous No.149804806 [Report] >>149805082
>>149804039
Cope faggot
Anonymous No.149805082 [Report] >>149805219
>>149804806
Now who's projecting
Anonymous No.149805186 [Report]
A good factor in this is how many of them look like shit. Like trashy copies of Family Guy and Rick and Morty.
Anonymous No.149805219 [Report] >>149805227 >>149805630
>>149805082
Fag
Anonymous No.149805227 [Report]
>>149805219
no u
Anonymous No.149805630 [Report] >>149805873
>>149805219
Pickle-sniffer
Anonymous No.149805823 [Report]
I guess them looking more like Rick and Morty is "kind" of an improvement, but christ alive. The only animation style these cartoons seem to want to explore is animesque.
Anonymous No.149805838 [Report] >>149805979
>>149803709
>>149804126
>samefagging
In these hallowed halls..
Anonymous No.149805873 [Report] >>149805986
>>149805630
Funny
Anonymous No.149805979 [Report]
>>149805838
>schizophrenia
I meant it in the sense that this fag actually managed to derail the conversation.

For bait standards, it's an 8/10. But he needs to get the fuck out.
Anonymous No.149805986 [Report]
>>149805873
You're funnier
Anonymous No.149807541 [Report] >>149807561 >>149808101
>>149803709
Agreed. Anyone who takes issue with this statement is a manchild through and through.
Anonymous No.149807561 [Report]
>>149807541
Stfu faggot
Anonymous No.149807900 [Report]
Let's talk about the generic adult animation art style
Anonymous No.149808101 [Report] >>149808366
>>149807541
Kys amerimutt
Anonymous No.149808366 [Report] >>149808389 >>149808442
>>149808101
Nta but unlike 90% of the people here?

I know you wanna brag about how this is an anime board, like your spoiled classmate flaunting that daddy can beat you up if you retaliate or some shit...

But can you at least contribute to the larger conversation? And it better be something other than "why can't western cartoons be more like anime?".

Please stop this fucking chain. I want real discussion.
Anonymous No.149808389 [Report]
>>149808366
Not my fault that you have a shit opinion
Anonyrnous No.149808393 [Report] >>149808917
>>149771353
Adult cartoons peaked with Peter Chung. We've failed him...
Anonymous No.149808442 [Report] >>149808749
>>149808366
My bad, didn’t read the first part
Anonymous No.149808749 [Report] >>149808779 >>149811006
>>149808442
Too bad, you pissed me off.

Talk about non-chink adult cartoons, the reason this thread exists in the first place, or fuck off.
Anonymous No.149808779 [Report]
>>149808749
Cope retard
Anonymous No.149808917 [Report]
>>149808393
This.
Anonymous No.149808926 [Report] >>149812142
>>149771329 (OP)
Bro just watch anime already it's exactly what you want
Anonymous No.149809031 [Report]
I'm sure a serious, high drama adaptation of my beloved will happen any day now.
Anonymous No.149809749 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
Cute
Anonymous No.149810156 [Report]
>>149786918
>>149782672
Nta but atla is honenshit as well.
Anonymous No.149810537 [Report]
>>149771353
fpbp
Anonymous No.149811006 [Report] >>149811631
>>149808749
But anime have always been better at doing adult animated series than cartoons.
Anonymous No.149811490 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
>Why? Are we so creatively brain dead that we can't make mature animated shows? That don't have to rely on being a gore fest?
Because you have no interest in changing a world that already suits you.
Anonymous No.149811631 [Report] >>149812354
>>149811006
Yes, we know. They're chopping chow down to Chinatown.
Anonymous No.149811751 [Report]
>>149780172
the funny thing is people think she is latina lol
Anonymous No.149812142 [Report] >>149812282
>>149808926
What animus did you watched?
Anonymous No.149812282 [Report]
>>149812142
When? In the last month?
Anonymous No.149812354 [Report]
>>149811631
What do you have with that dumb song? Recognizing that anime has always been better at doing adult animation is literally a fact recognized by a lot of animators themselves, you don't have to be a weeb to see it. You will never someone like Satoshi Kon in western animation for example.
Anonymous No.149812377 [Report]
>>149771560
I miss Amber*
That's lesbian Eve.
Anonymous No.149812806 [Report]
>>149771531
Based artist
Anonymous No.149813597 [Report] >>149814338
>>149771329 (OP)
Whatever
Anonymous No.149814338 [Report]
>>149813597
Based on what?
Anonymous No.149814842 [Report] >>149815183 >>149817300
>>149771329 (OP)
because this is what happens when an adult cartoon is posted that wasn't shilled to you on social media.
also because you and every poster here is a bot who are unable to discuss anything that doesn't fit their engagement bait narrative, which is also why the thread will stop getting replies right after i post this.
Anonymous No.149815074 [Report]
>>149771353
>>149771388
>>149771695
>>149773286
>>149779087
what a cope. this is from a hungarian toddler series. target audience is not an excuse for being shit.
Anonymous No.149815183 [Report]
>>149814842
It's kinda dumb to compare a random web series to a show that's been part of 4chan culture for nearing 15 years now.
As much as people here hate to be reminded of this fact, the majority of 4chan users outside of /pol/ bots still lean far more east than west.
Anonymous No.149816155 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
bump
Anonymous No.149817300 [Report]
>>149814842
How extremely sad and disappointing.
Anonymous No.149818108 [Report]
>>149771353
But what do toddlers want, anyway?
Anonymous No.149818983 [Report]
>>149771329 (OP)
We will never get a Jonah Hex cartoon.
Anonymous No.149819067 [Report]
>>149779087
I don't buy that. especially since these execs tend to be the trendsetters in the first place.