Thread 149771329 - /co/

Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:18:51 AM No.149771329
EveMarkKate
EveMarkKate
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The majority of new animated series are geared for literal goo goo ga ga babies. Why? Are we so creatively brain dead that we can't make mature animated shows? That don't have to rely on being a gore fest?
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:20:48 AM No.149771353
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aeon flux opening
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For some reason after all of the adult and experimental cartoons of the 90s, 00s, and to a lesser extent early 2010s executives suddenly decided that animation wasn't just for kids, but toddlers. Why? No clue.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:22:38 AM No.149771382
>>149771329 (OP)
Parents don't want anything that will get their child asking questions, i.e. engaging their brains in a meaningful way, and suits don't want to hear bitching from patents/don't think children could understand anything complex anyways.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:22:54 AM No.149771388
>>149771353
I imagine its incredibly cheap and easy to make content for toddlers.
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8/9/2025, 1:23:49 AM No.149771400
>>149771388
And profitable
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:26:04 AM No.149771439
>>149771353
Cheaper to produce, write, practically markets itself, and far easier to profit off of because of the aforementioned cheapness. Artistically creative periods like what you described are basically bubbles between decades of mediocre garbage, and this applies to pretty much all of the arts.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:30:24 AM No.149771497
Make your own
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:33:21 AM No.149771531
>>149771329 (OP)
>find the post this image comes from
>people comment how duplikate doesn't really fit rei
>artist passively-aggressively tells them to draw it themselves
wtf is wrong with people?
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:35:03 AM No.149771560
Eves
Eves
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>>149771531
Hah. Good question.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:41:05 AM No.149771644
>>149771531
I'd just assume it was Invincible characters drawn as EVA pilots
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:43:46 AM No.149771676
>>149771329 (OP)
It's nothing more than corporate nonsense, as usual. They want to skimp out on the budget for muh profits, so they make anomation have the lowest possible quality. And obviously, the genre that lends itself best to that are modern adult comedies (aka Rick and Morty or Family Guy clones)
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:44:39 AM No.149771695
Simplest answer: the demographic that was the core animation group no longer exists. Kids 7-13 used to be the money makers, now they only do online content and do not watch shows. So the only audiences left are toddlers 0-6 and teenagers to adults, and they have to choose who to target
And boomer execs will die before admitting animation is largely watched by adults, so now you only get educational shows.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:45:17 AM No.149771703
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>>149771329 (OP)
Wanna watch Pantheon?
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:45:25 AM No.149771707
>>149771695
>so now you only get educational shows.
We are really stretching the definition of educational here
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:46:26 AM No.149771727
>>149771703
There is no gay or lesbian couples for me to be morally outraged by so no
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:46:43 AM No.149771732
>>149771703
Why does he have the David Martinez jacket
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:49:26 AM No.149771775
>>149771329 (OP)
Let's be honest. Even if they made some new animated series aimed at teens-adults, it would be some preachy bullshit.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:50:51 AM No.149771801
>>149771732
Its fanart crossover with edgerunners
Maddie has lucy's outfit
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:52:18 AM No.149771821
>>149771353
Youtube monetisation & elsagate and their consequences to the cartoon industry...
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:52:49 AM No.149771826
>>149771821
Then just air them on youtube.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:53:50 AM No.149771846
>>149771821
>elsagate
I saw more weird shit browsing Ao3 or Twitter than that literal meme.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:54:39 AM No.149771862
>>149771826
They do, though. But only cartoons aimed at children.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:57:20 AM No.149771905
>>149771846
It's more about the astronomical amount of views shitty baby cartoons are getting on YT and the revenues they generated at the time.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 1:57:52 AM No.149771914
>>149771862
pain
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:08:58 AM No.149772088
Clone Army
Clone Army
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>>149771329 (OP)
At least we will always have the memories.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 2:17:46 AM No.149772237
I like to think some big executive seethes every time a Digital Circus episode drops
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:15:09 AM No.149773002
>>149771329 (OP)
Sadge
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:26:59 AM No.149773159
I genuinely feel like comics and cartoons will always fall behind no matter what you do
It's over. The impressive ones are exceptions but you'll always be a weird autist for even knowing then. I'm giving up on drawing
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:36:42 AM No.149773286
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>>149771329 (OP)
There are so many things online competing for kids attention these days, including cartoons made by indies that have more freedom and understanding of their target audience like TADC. The only captive audience left are parents who don't feel comfortable leaving their toddler to the youtube algorism and instead trust mass media corporations to raise their child.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:37:42 AM No.149773291
>>149773159
>I'm giving up on drawing
Don't do it anon..
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:54:56 AM No.149773503
>>149773286
staged
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:59:13 AM No.149773549
>>149772088
Is this from TCW or from Episode 2?
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:00:04 AM No.149773555
>>149773549
TCW
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:02:40 AM No.149773593
>>149773555
Nice trips
Props to that show, I know it had Lucas/Disney+ money but I think that visually The Clone Wars post season 3 is the golden standard for CG Cartoons.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:16:36 AM No.149773784
>>149773593
I'd have done unspeakable horrors for Rebels to look like it
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:46:34 AM No.149774207
>>149771353
>>149771382
>>149771439
This. Said parents and execs have practically stifled animated shows in the west once again, creating a new "Animation Age Ghetto" in the process. Funny how history often repeats itself…

>>149771775
>>149771727
This, too. As much as I wanna check out some of those other animated shows on streaming platforms like Arcane, my biggest gripes are:

1. Modern animated shows that are so far up their ass with progressiveness that makes those shows as phony as a lot of modern TV commercials.

2. Modern animated shows that are either a self-indulgent therapy session or some preachy platform for certain showrunners.

Not trying to say that Arcane is one of those shows, but I'm better off avoiding that series as a precaution. I just wanna watch animated series similar in tone to teen/mature-rated anime for escapism and entertainment, not to be reminded of 2010's social trends I never agreed with in the first place. I'm not in the mood to watching animated shows by some wannabe activist showrunners.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:48:12 AM No.149774231
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CaitJinxVi
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:35:05 AM No.149774884
>>149771329 (OP)
What is your favorite animation style
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:25:01 AM No.149775549
>>149771329 (OP)
I guess?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:39:18 AM No.149776835
>>149771329 (OP)
Nice art
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 12:39:08 PM No.149777972
>>149771329 (OP)
What else could WE do about it?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:13:12 PM No.149778825
>>149771353
Yeah. We really need more of those.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:35:34 PM No.149779011
>>149771329 (OP)
define maturity
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:46:37 PM No.149779087
>>149771329 (OP)
It’s purely monetary. Little toddler content makes money, older kids don’t play with toys or watch cartoons like they used to.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 3:50:58 PM No.149779133
>>149771329 (OP)
watching/reading cartoons as a grown adult is embarrassing in the US.
because of the way teenagers work, it’s doubly embarrassing for them because they blindly want to be adults.
this cultural stigma, if it ever changes, will take centuries to overcome, probably well after cartoons have been “canonized” into classics the same way we do with literature
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 4:00:26 PM No.149779209
>>149779087
cartoons don't wome with toys anymore, hasn't been the case since the early 00's.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:00:16 PM No.149779735
>>149771353
I have a feeling that the internet had something to do with it. With TV you had to reach broad audiences with a limited medium. But with the internet you can reach a massive target audience, and since toddlers are the easiest to impress, why not target them exclusively?
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:01:54 PM No.149779745
>>149779087
boomer detected.
MUH TOYSSSSS
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:02:54 PM No.149779757
>>149779133
>watching/reading cartoons as a grown adult is embarrassing in the US.
Considering how popular manga/anime is, no. You're just wrong.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:13:35 PM No.149779862
>>149779209
>>149779745
Paw Patrol sells a ton of merch to small kids
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 5:42:17 PM No.149780172
MAWS-art
MAWS-art
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>>149771329 (OP)
Would be a good show if not for the forced race mixing
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:26:30 PM No.149780708
>>149771353
Money.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 6:27:42 PM No.149780723
>>149779862
MUHHHHHHHH TOYSSSSS YOU HAS TO SELL DA TOYSSSSSSSSSSS!
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:42:19 PM No.149781713
>>149780172
True
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 7:47:05 PM No.149781778
>>149779862
toys arrived after the show success, it's not the "glorified toy add" you said earlier (you will denie it of course but at this point who cares).
Meanwhile all supposedly succesful cartoons like AT, SU, TTGo have nothing. Disney let all their modern shows like Molly or Ayley rot without even stickers. Hilda? You are lucky it had a book first.
The totally spies revival had magazines of screenshots sold as comics.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:36:03 PM No.149782441
>>149780172
Shut up.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:39:54 PM No.149782501
AdventureTime kid robot
AdventureTime kid robot
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>>149781778
You can't always have megahits like Adventure Time and Teen Titans Go though. Remember the excuse they gave about DC Nation's shows like Young Justice and Green Lantern being canceled? The show couldnt support themselves on ratings alone, despite having good ratings, and were canceled because they didn't have enough toy sales (or any toy sales, for GL).

Plus, all the shows you listed had merch still. They still sold tons of minifigures, tshirts, and plushies for these series, even if they weren't traditional toys.

There's a reason why there were a thousand different cartoon series in the 80s/90s every single season on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, and WB, and that's because every new cartoon had a toyline ready to make hundreds of millions of dolllars every year as its MAIN SUPPORT. Getting ratings/ad revenue was nothing to them, despite that being the DIRECT way of a cartoon making money.

Shock and awe, now that it's harder for cartoons to get a toyline, there's far fewer cartoons. Today media companies produce cartoons first and then get a toyline later, whereas before the toys came out around the same time as it was broadcast. This is because ratings are so obfuscated now, they don't tell you how many viewers something gets anymore, but "minutes watched." So even if something is broadcast still, you're still only getting a fraction of data about how many people watched it, because the netflix/disney+/hulu views are kept hidden.

So there's not a lot of trust between these media and merch companies anymore, especially because ratings used to be independently verified by a third party company (nielsen, etc). I mean, even merch sales are still independently tracked and verified. It's no longer a two way street, and media companies have always been known to fudge their numbers even before they could hide all the data behind streaming services.
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:42:23 PM No.149782542
>>149782441
Why? I'm right
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:43:23 PM No.149782558
Boba Fett
Boba Fett
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>>149771329 (OP)
They should give us a Boba Fett cartoon
Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:45:13 PM No.149782583
Americans have very limited views on what media can be and right now animation that doesn't come from Japan is viewed as something for ultra babies and as a result the market reflects this with a very limited variety of shows.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:46:18 PM No.149782596
>>149771329 (OP)
Comics and cartoons are for children. Anime and graphic novels are for adults. The gulf between a kiddie show like ATLA and a show for men like One Piece is staggering.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:49:27 PM No.149782638
>>149782596
Stfu tacotranny
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 8:51:27 PM No.149782672
>>149782596
One Piece is shoneshit so unless you're baiting kys
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 9:50:43 PM No.149783939
>>149771329 (OP)
Because people like you never actually support mature animation
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:45:33 PM No.149786230
winston flintstones smoking ad
winston flintstones smoking ad
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>>149782583
Americans have a very wide view of who animation is for, hence the popularity of it with adults and kids since the 30 and 40s.

The problem is that corporations aren't sure of how they can profit off of them. The government and karens keep changing the rules every decade.
Cartoons can't be advertisments.
Cartoons can't be violent.
Cartoons must be educational.
Cartoons must be moral.
Cartoons can't have hateful farts.
Cartoons must teach sex.
Cartoons must teach socialist values.

Shit's always changing and no one can keep track of this shit. Who wants to fund this shit, especially when the company in charge of funding them don't want to tell you if anyone is watching them or not?
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:57:19 PM No.149786464
>>149786230
The United States has a massive hangup about comics and cartoons in general that I think comes from the really weird, repressed culture of puritanism that still hasn't been shaken off. Animation cannot seem to shake the stigma of being 'for kids' in the US and it's been insanely harmful for it's development as an artform. Meanwhile, Japan and Continental Europe don't have these hangups and, consequently, can actually consider animated media as a legitimate form of artistic expression and not just an extended advertisement to sell toys.

It's not helped by the fact that drawing is a hard, time consuming process and studios would rather not spend the money to do it well - instead, going for cheap, cheesy 3dcg animation, that's only hammering home the nail of animation failing to be considered 'real art.' Also not helped by the fact that comics continue to be associated with a single genre; men in tights hitting eachother while the author makes a clumsy analogy of racism or US imperialism.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:05:30 AM No.149786644
>>149771531
>wtf is wrong with people?
Many creatives have mental issues and are anti-social.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:20:22 AM No.149786903
>>149783939
>ITS THE CONSOOOOOMERS FAULT
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:21:23 AM No.149786918
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>>149782596
Nice bait. I like One Piece but its still the equivalent of a saturday morning cartoon in the land of the rising sun
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:01:11 AM No.149787563
>>149786918
really?
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:40:48 AM No.149788299
>>149771329 (OP)
At least we've got the Mighty Nein to look forward too.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:25:16 AM No.149789090
calling pronto
calling pronto
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>>149771531
>>artist passively-aggressively tells them to draw it themselves
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:26:21 AM No.149789104
>>149780172
this cocksucker doesn't like caramel waifus
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:12:28 AM No.149789796
comic code authority problems
comic code authority problems
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>>149786464
And none of that is a problem with the people though. It's why anime is so popular in the first place.

It has everything to do with karens/parentgroups/sjw and the government who listen to the karens/dei/socialists, which disrupts domestic media producers.

Its a very small group of people who fuck it up for the rest of us. Everyone else enjoys their gore, sex, crime, farts, and satans, hence the popularity for this type of shit.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:13:33 AM No.149789813
>>149771353
It's another victim of the Global Financial Crisis causing studios to tighten their purse strings. Note that the last part of the era you mentioned, the early 2010s, is the "lesser extent" part of it. Adult experimental animation is expensive and less guaranteed to make a profit, toddler shit is easy to shovel out and guarantee you get your money back.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:13:51 AM No.149789818
>>149789104
I think anon means Kara/Jimmy, anon
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:12:06 AM No.149790818
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>>149771329 (OP)
Everything 'adult' themed must be a Family Guy clone
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:13:54 AM No.149790841
>>149790818
What if a cartoon... said fart
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:14:36 AM No.149790846
>>149790841
.. Ingenious.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:26:21 AM No.149791042
>>149790818
You need to die
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:20:53 AM No.149791821
>>149789796
But anime is popular with people who already think American animation is limited. America DOES have an issue with how we view media. For most of the population it has to fit into a very narrow box. This wasn't true in the 30s and 40s where media was diverse, but overtime things began to limit themselves.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:28:10 AM No.149791925
>>149791042
Ooooh I'm so scared
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:32:33 AM No.149791981
>>149773593
>but I think that visually The Clone Wars post season 3 is the golden standard for CG Cartoons
Disney was season 7. Seasons 1 - 6 was ALL funded right out of George's pocket.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:33:09 AM No.149791993
>>149791981
Based George.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:36:42 AM No.149792057
>>149780172
Am I the only that sees how much this show panders to reddit weeb faggots?
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:41:59 AM No.149792149
>>149792057
Not as much as Watchmen (2019)
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:44:30 AM No.149792192
>>149771329 (OP)
because the kind of show you want isn't expected to be as profitable, it's not a creative problem, it's a business problem. As long as our society only incentivizes raw profit, companies are only going to pursue maximally profitable ventures, and if the numbers tell them that a certain kind of product should make more money, that's what they'll make. Capitalism is antithetical to true art, and on a long enough timescale it can only disappoint you. It's not enough for them to make a good show that will maintain a decent viewership and sell an okay amount of merchandise, there is only room for the MOST viewership, the MOST merchandise, the MOST seasons possible. If the numbers said that a show where Superman takes it up the ass would make more money, that's what they'd make. If the numbers said a show where Superman murders all the nonwhites, they'd make that show. They don't give a shit about anything but pure profit.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:46:19 AM No.149792224
>>149792149
Not social politics wise, I'm talking about anime wise, Lois is a brown short haired tom boy gf, kara has an outfit that's basically android 18, etcetera.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:47:32 AM No.149792246
>>149792057
I hate THING that is popular outside of /co/!
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:50:49 AM No.149792291
morphintime
morphintime
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>>149771329 (OP)
I'd love a power rangers animated series.. shame JDF is dead..
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:50:59 AM No.149792293
>>149792192
>Capitalism is antithetical to true art, and on a long enough timescale it can only disappoint you.
Super Bigote is true art I guess :)
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:51:23 AM No.149792302
>>149792246
Not really, it's just so obvious with its pandering that I find it tiresome.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:52:38 AM No.149792319
>>149792302
>pander
baby's first buzzword
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:52:45 AM No.149792323
>>149792291
Shut up Adi
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:59:09 AM No.149792440
>>149792319
If you like the show that's fine, it just lacks originality to me which I guess is a moot point to complain about considering its just superman cartoon #10267.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:03:00 AM No.149792517
>>149792291
I don't want to see Hexagon itself but I'd like a GI-Joe esque show where the various teams are united under a larger organization to fight the Alliance of Evil. It'd just be fun to see the mix and matching.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:28:22 AM No.149794358
>>149773593
Bad Batch has INSANELY good animation quality for a show longer than eight episodes a season. God knows how much money they threw at it, they really should make outright animated movies for Star Wars at a theatrical level.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:33:02 AM No.149794441
ImmortalandKate
ImmortalandKate
md5: 3e9b00b3a64d8335220bb6f787c9c0cd🔍
>>149771329 (OP)
I don't mind the Invincible art style, just wish they wouldn't spend most of the budget on celeb VAs. Mark and Nolan were enough.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:42:57 AM No.149795336
>>149792192
>corporations base their products on what consumers will pay more for
>this is somehow the corporations' fault and not the consumers'
Replies: >>149795585
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:58:48 AM No.149795488
histeria
histeria
md5: 8b71974a1c442117de29740f2d461dec🔍
>>149791821
This isn't a chicken and the egg thing.
There's literally a larger audience for overseas cartoons because it doesn't pigeonhole an entire medium, and can cater to a wide variety of interests.

There's literally a problem with domestic medium can show because a select few interest groups want to limit what a medium can show.

So as a whole, we DO NOT have a hang up with cartoons being able to tell stories to more than just children. This is why a large amount of cartoons are imported into the US, because our domestic producers can not produce media that the general public wants to watch, due to a small minority of people.

The 80s ended 40 years ago, grandpa, and even kids back in the 90s, noticed how much better cartoons could be when there weren't "parent groups" fucking over our cartoons.
I mean, were you even born when cartoons suffered a huge dive ni quality when TV stations were required to run EDUCATIONAL shit if there were any kids watching their station? I sure as fuck noticed the dive in quality when that happened.
Stuff like pic was a piss poor replacement for Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain and network stations like NBC no longer even showed cartoons, because of those educational requirements.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:59:38 AM No.149795500
I'm gonna be honest, most of the stuff people who make/like cartoons are into seems to be really really fucking lame and gay.
Even their idea of "mature" is really lame, gay, and not even particularly mature, it always comes off as whiny teenager shit.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:09:35 AM No.149795583
>>149786230
Honestly, I can't remember the last time I saw someone casually smoking in an American animated property that wasn't a comedic sitcom or a long-running show/reboot like Family Guy or KotH.
The only examples I can think of are usually like, stuffy old business men or the like, you'll NEVER see a main or major character in American animation who's a regular smoker nowadays, outside of those shows I mentioned.
Replies: >>149795606 >>149795728
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:09:55 AM No.149795585
>>149795336
/co/ always refuses to take responsibility for its own actions and admit that if they don’t spend money on stuff they claim to want then it’s not going to get made because there is no money in it and your endless bitching online is empty crying because your opioid doesn’t matter
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:12:11 AM No.149795606
>>149795583
Because why would you promote cancer sticks to children?
Replies: >>149795616
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:12:48 AM No.149795616
>>149795606
Even you yourself just tacitly admitted that cartoons are for children.
Replies: >>149795673
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:14:07 AM No.149795631
>>149774207

LGBT people are not trends anon. But it's kinda amusing you want escapism from them
Replies: >>149795907
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:15:43 AM No.149795649
>>149771329 (OP)
I think the premise of this thread is flawed. There's still plenty of animated series aimed at older viewers, if anything there's far more than there were back in the 90s and 2000s.
Replies: >>149795897
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:18:13 AM No.149795673
>>149795616
Because that’s what 99% of cartoons are. That is the reality.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:22:34 AM No.149795728
>>149795583
I think that can mostly be attributed to less people smoking in real life than they did 30-50 years ago.
Replies: >>149795994
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:38:16 AM No.149795897
>>149795649
Yeah, I really don't get what all the complaining in this thread is about. And that's not even taking into considering indie animation.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:39:35 AM No.149795907
>>149795631
>NO DAD YOU DON'T GET IT THE PINK HAIRCUT STAYS I AM CHARLOTTE NOW
lol
lmao even
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:51:02 AM No.149795994
>>149795728
I don't think cartoons have ever really been an accurate reflection of real life, so I don't think that works as an excuse.
I think the actual reason is that the people making cartoons nowadays are the kind of people who'd get pissy about smoking being portrayed as anything but disgusting/abhorrent.
Replies: >>149796044 >>149796106
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:59:53 AM No.149796044
>>149795994
>I don't think cartoons have ever really been an accurate reflection of real life, so I don't think that works as an excuse.
Honestly I can't argue with that. Animation, like comics before it, has always been a good source of larger-than-life characters.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:10:29 AM No.149796106
>>149795994
It absolutely works as an explanation. Cartoons reflect current times.

If that was not true then why aren’t people depicted as still living like it’s the 1910s with ice boxes and using outdated switchboard operated telephones then? Why aren’t they using horses to travel? Why isn’t everyone dressed up like in the 1950s and wearing hats and scarves to protect hair when going outside? Why aren’t everyone shown drinking booze from their little home liquor bars? Why aren’t the streets full of smog and horse dung? Why do people no longer have black maids?
Replies: >>149796141
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:16:45 AM No.149796141
>>149796106
>Cartoons reflect current times.
Okay, but people still smoke in current times, they might smoke less, but they do still smoke.
Replies: >>149796682
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 10:58:52 AM No.149796386
InShot_20250724_155403650
InShot_20250724_155403650
md5: 4269f6f221b09a7b9fda2d8dceae44ec🔍
>>149773159
This.
Want to succeed? Leave the west.
Replies: >>149796432 >>149803839
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:10:59 AM No.149796432
>>149796386
How about i do my own shit and pay for your pay ticket. So you can chop chop chop chow down to chinatown.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:22:00 PM No.149796682
>>149796141
And they need to smoke in children’s cartoons why exactly?
Replies: >>149798294 >>149800056
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:04:33 PM No.149797051
>>149792057
It could just be your paranoia talking.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:05:11 PM No.149797847
>>149782638
gtfo burgergranny
Replies: >>149798142
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:10:36 PM No.149797886
>>149771329 (OP)
america
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:38:18 PM No.149798142
>>149797847
I'm not american you stupid weebturd
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:52:06 PM No.149798294
>>149796682
Why not?
They put fat people in kid's shows and being fat is just as bad as smoking.
Replies: >>149798356
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:59:08 PM No.149798356
>>149798294
Why don’t they show people getting high in children’s cartoons? Or fucking? Maybe because parents don’t want it?
Replies: >>149798377 >>149799869
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:01:45 PM No.149798377
>>149798356
Parents don't want gays in kid's cartoons either, and that's never stopped the creators from doing it.
Replies: >>149798419
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:06:35 PM No.149798419
>>149798377
Bigoted parents don’t, normal parents don’t have an issue with it.
Replies: >>149798549
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:11:58 PM No.149798477
>>149771353
Overprotective parents being Overprotective, and executives having no choice but to back down on creative potential and freedom for the sake of keeping their viewers.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:14:53 PM No.149798497
>>149780172
I still would bang this Lois though.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:19:54 PM No.149798549
>>149798419
Most parents are bigoted parents, since most parents now are not white.
You fags can't be consistent to save your life, this is why your shit is dying.
Replies: >>149800102
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:51:54 PM No.149799587
>>149771329 (OP)
Cute drawing
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:11:52 PM No.149799869
tumblr_mdrxrusF3N1qi3p46o4_540(1)
tumblr_mdrxrusF3N1qi3p46o4_540(1)
md5: ece05a492f2422cb9dd6f8bb620e1a48🔍
>>149798356
>Maybe because parents don’t want it?
These are the same parents who take their little four or five year old to PG-13 movies and complain that they saw a single droplet of blood.
Replies: >>149799932
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:17:29 PM No.149799932
>>149799869
Yes. People are dumb as hell. Good job noticing this.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:28:51 PM No.149800056
>>149796682
Because smoking is COOL
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:32:25 PM No.149800095
>>149771329 (OP)
Animation will always target the most profitable demographic. In the 70s and 80s, that was young middle school kids who got their parents to buy toys (Transformers, He-Man, etc). In the 90s and 00s, the demographics for toy buyers had aged up by "collectors" and weebs (pokemon, yugioh, teen titans, etc), so that was more high school and some young adults. Now in the 10s and 20s, the most profitable demographic are ipad babies who will stream their slop on repeat for days, they don't even need to buy anything anymore they just need to provide their attention. That's just how the economy works.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 7:33:01 PM No.149800102
>>149798549
Just two more weeks and those heckin LGBTers will finally be gone and da ten commanderments will be back in da SKEWL. CHRIST IS KANG
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:34:45 PM No.149800948
>>149771329 (OP)
Should we make our own?
Replies: >>149800961
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 8:35:55 PM No.149800961
>>149800948
Sure
https://youtu.be/FEGJbTyjTLA
Replies: >>149803643
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:46:36 PM No.149802020
>>149771531
Not their fault people want to get into technicalities over a mindless crossover drawing
Replies: >>149802083
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 9:51:46 PM No.149802083
>>149802020
Except the artist could've just explained that it was because they're clones instead of being a cunt.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:40:41 PM No.149803643
>>149800961
It's strange for someone to say that and actually concede instead of crying that it would take too much effort.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:48:07 PM No.149803709
>>149771329 (OP)
cartoons are for children
Replies: >>149803738 >>149803792 >>149803856 >>149804126 >>149805838 >>149807541
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:49:50 PM No.149803738
>>149803709
That mindset is indeed why we are in the shitter.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:51:59 PM No.149803792
>>149803709
Yeah no shit, but children range anywhere from babies to teenagers, there should be cartoons for all of them not just the babies
Replies: >>149803889
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:54:36 PM No.149803839
>>149796386
Ah yes, dealing the toxic Japanese work culture and die by your mid 50's.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:55:37 PM No.149803856
>>149803709
Kys trannyfag
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 11:57:32 PM No.149803889
>>149803792
Retard
Replies: >>149803955
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:02:31 AM No.149803955
>>149803889
You're a retard and so's your mom
Replies: >>149803969
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:03:57 AM No.149803969
>>149803955
Stop projecting
Replies: >>149803980
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:04:47 AM No.149803980
>>149803969
Stop using that word if you don't know what it means
Replies: >>149804020
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:07:16 AM No.149804020
>>149803980
I don't care, nobody with such retarded opinions can talk shit
Replies: >>149804039
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:08:12 AM No.149804039
>>149804020
You're the one with the retarded opinion and you're talking shit
Replies: >>149804806
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:14:04 AM No.149804126
>>149803709
Good bait, 8/10 made fags reply.
Replies: >>149805838
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:57:35 AM No.149804806
>>149804039
Cope faggot
Replies: >>149805082
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:19:57 AM No.149805082
>>149804806
Now who's projecting
Replies: >>149805219
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:27:34 AM No.149805186
A good factor in this is how many of them look like shit. Like trashy copies of Family Guy and Rick and Morty.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:30:37 AM No.149805219
>>149805082
Fag
Replies: >>149805227 >>149805630
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:31:17 AM No.149805227
>>149805219
no u
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:01:54 AM No.149805630
>>149805219
Pickle-sniffer
Replies: >>149805873
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:15:24 AM No.149805823
1594326915289
1594326915289
md5: 4ee25813b53f93d885dc9f6e17e1dd58🔍
I guess them looking more like Rick and Morty is "kind" of an improvement, but christ alive. The only animation style these cartoons seem to want to explore is animesque.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:16:24 AM No.149805838
>>149803709
>>149804126
>samefagging
In these hallowed halls..
Replies: >>149805979
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:18:29 AM No.149805873
>>149805630
Funny
Replies: >>149805986
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:24:37 AM No.149805979
>>149805838
>schizophrenia
I meant it in the sense that this fag actually managed to derail the conversation.

For bait standards, it's an 8/10. But he needs to get the fuck out.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:24:50 AM No.149805986
>>149805873
You're funnier
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 3:58:04 AM No.149807541
>>149803709
Agreed. Anyone who takes issue with this statement is a manchild through and through.
Replies: >>149807561 >>149808101
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 3:59:40 AM No.149807561
>>149807541
Stfu faggot
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 4:23:49 AM No.149807900
Let's talk about the generic adult animation art style
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 4:36:46 AM No.149808101
>>149807541
Kys amerimutt
Replies: >>149808366
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 4:56:48 AM No.149808366
>>149808101
Nta but unlike 90% of the people here?

I know you wanna brag about how this is an anime board, like your spoiled classmate flaunting that daddy can beat you up if you retaliate or some shit...

But can you at least contribute to the larger conversation? And it better be something other than "why can't western cartoons be more like anime?".

Please stop this fucking chain. I want real discussion.
Replies: >>149808389 >>149808442
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 4:58:02 AM No.149808389
>>149808366
Not my fault that you have a shit opinion
Anonyrnous
8/11/2025, 4:58:10 AM No.149808393
1754297177464
1754297177464
md5: a06ea4050ae4c3e4826ef301fcbe9187🔍
>>149771353
Adult cartoons peaked with Peter Chung. We've failed him...
Replies: >>149808917
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:01:22 AM No.149808442
>>149808366
My bad, didn’t read the first part
Replies: >>149808749
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:25:09 AM No.149808749
>>149808442
Too bad, you pissed me off.

Talk about non-chink adult cartoons, the reason this thread exists in the first place, or fuck off.
Replies: >>149808779 >>149811006
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:28:03 AM No.149808779
>>149808749
Cope retard
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:38:22 AM No.149808917
>>149808393
This.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:39:32 AM No.149808926
>>149771329 (OP)
Bro just watch anime already it's exactly what you want
Replies: >>149812142
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:46:52 AM No.149809031
IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEEEEEAD
IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEEEEEAD
md5: eecb4f6ecabd289d2b9a1d2b9cbd15be🔍
I'm sure a serious, high drama adaptation of my beloved will happen any day now.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 6:46:12 AM No.149809749
>>149771329 (OP)
Cute
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:27:38 AM No.149810156
>>149786918
>>149782672
Nta but atla is honenshit as well.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:08:32 AM No.149810537
>>149771353
fpbp
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 9:11:35 AM No.149811006
>>149808749
But anime have always been better at doing adult animated series than cartoons.
Replies: >>149811631
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 10:48:50 AM No.149811490
Zǎoshang hǎo zhōngguó xiànzài wǒ yǒu BING CHILLING
>>149771329 (OP)
>Why? Are we so creatively brain dead that we can't make mature animated shows? That don't have to rely on being a gore fest?
Because you have no interest in changing a world that already suits you.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 11:18:28 AM No.149811631
>>149811006
Yes, we know. They're chopping chow down to Chinatown.
Replies: >>149812354
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 11:37:40 AM No.149811751
>>149780172
the funny thing is people think she is latina lol
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 12:43:38 PM No.149812142
>>149808926
What animus did you watched?
Replies: >>149812282
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:05:32 PM No.149812282
>>149812142
When? In the last month?
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:16:46 PM No.149812354
>>149811631
What do you have with that dumb song? Recognizing that anime has always been better at doing adult animation is literally a fact recognized by a lot of animators themselves, you don't have to be a weeb to see it. You will never someone like Satoshi Kon in western animation for example.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 1:19:31 PM No.149812377
>>149771560
I miss Amber*
That's lesbian Eve.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 2:22:45 PM No.149812806
>>149771531
Based artist
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 3:52:49 PM No.149813597
>>149771329 (OP)
Whatever
Replies: >>149814338
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 4:57:22 PM No.149814338
>>149813597
Based on what?
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:38:41 PM No.149814842
1754152341948
1754152341948
md5: 99eefdff0977d2d1a446470a460c86bc🔍
>>149771329 (OP)
because this is what happens when an adult cartoon is posted that wasn't shilled to you on social media.
also because you and every poster here is a bot who are unable to discuss anything that doesn't fit their engagement bait narrative, which is also why the thread will stop getting replies right after i post this.
Replies: >>149815183 >>149817300
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 5:57:42 PM No.149815074
videoplayback_thumb.jpg
videoplayback_thumb.jpg
md5: 6b71e4f7e59b69bf9c55300cfce2a3c1🔍
>>149771353
>>149771388
>>149771695
>>149773286
>>149779087
what a cope. this is from a hungarian toddler series. target audience is not an excuse for being shit.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 6:07:16 PM No.149815183
>>149814842
It's kinda dumb to compare a random web series to a show that's been part of 4chan culture for nearing 15 years now.
As much as people here hate to be reminded of this fact, the majority of 4chan users outside of /pol/ bots still lean far more east than west.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 7:16:45 PM No.149816155
>>149771329 (OP)
bump
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 8:28:37 PM No.149817300
>>149814842
How extremely sad and disappointing.
Anonymous
8/11/2025, 9:12:10 PM No.149818108
>>149771353
But what do toddlers want, anyway?