Thread 149780659

Does he deserve a second chance? Flim-Flam got one, after all, and he was even more hated.

While we're at it, how would you bring him back into the franchise if it was up to you?

>>149780659 (OP)
Scrappy wasn't anywhere near as annoying as people pretend he was. I even remember them trying to frame him as the one non-retard in some of the tv movies.

>>149780659 (OP)
He's gotten one

He killed Velma

This video has a pretty good idea of how he could be brought back:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj2tqs7zhow

I'd say he does, considering he literally saved the franchise.

When did Scrappy become viewed as unpopular anyway? He saved the series when he was introduced and Scooby, Shaggy, and Scrappy were the series defining trio for quite a long period of time. Where did "SCRAPPY BAD" become normalized? It was before Gunn and his movie because I remember even as a kid hearing shit about Scrappy being lame.

>>149784579
It got normalized when the retards at HB thought it would be a good idea to use him as a cash cow and focus the franchise on him more and more with each subsequent series, while phasing out Fred, Velma, and Daphne to save on their voice actors.
People didn't hate Scrappy for Scrappy, they hate him because he became a replacement for half the main cast. HB has been using him as a scapegoat ever since.

>>149784667
And it didn't help that his increased prominence coincided with a bunch of changes that were polarizing at best, such as introducing genuine supernatural elements. This meant that he was hated by association.

>>149784579
like 15 or so years ago some youtuber noticed when something was dying they added a new sidekick and hating that tactic became the norm AND retroactive
thats about it

I watched a lot of Scooby growing up, from the old stuff to the then relevantly new stuff. I was a huge scoob fan, and yeah I hated scrappy. He threw off the dynamic of the show when he was featured. Turning the episode into a focus about him and how it shaped the episode.

>>149780659 (OP)
Scrappy got way too much hate. He was okay in the cartoon movies and the episodes with the entire gang.

The issue is that the episodes with him, Shaggy, Scooby and Scooby's other relatives sucked.

>>149780659 (OP)
The show was already going to shit before Scrappy but he was a good scapegoat.

>>149784579
>When did Scrappy become viewed as unpopular anyway?
James Gunn

Literally everyone pretends he's the worst thing ever cause of James Gunn. Just like how worthless writers acted like Joss Weedon was hotshit until he got cancelled.

>>149789037
I'm sure the Harvey Birdman episode that came out the very day prior had been inspired by Gunn or some shit, sure.

Gimme a break.

>>149789837
Yeah, and there was a Blair Witch parody which had the gang running in terror from Scrappy, which predated the Gunn movie.

>>149786791
Introducing actual supernatural shit was good though

I don’t care whether or not he’s rightfully hated or not anymore, I’m just tired of them doing the same joke with over and over

>>149789037
People hated Scrappy way before James Gunn. In 1999, 4 years before the movie, Cartoon Network made a game about throwing smelly garbage at him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBudBZGhxTY
My theory is that most of the Scrappy hate came from people who were 10 yr old in 69 and were still watching Scooby-Doo when he was introduced didn’t vibe with this character designed to appeal to 79’s 10 yr olds (like there’s a bunch of Teen Titans 03fags that are still seething about Teen Titans Go). Then when Cartoon Network started up, the first group naturally got to work there first and they used their influence to whine about "That annoying mutt that RUINED Scooby-Doo" and that spread to the impressionable children of 1999 (who unlike the previous generations had access to the Internet) and then the idea just kinda became ingrained in pop culture.

>>149780659 (OP)
Bring him back, make him a girl. Either a weird little half-human thing like Scrappy was, or a Dane bigger than Scooby, who just gets carried away and wrecks shit in her enthusiasm. And who is terrified of harmless stuff (covers her eyes and cowers at scary movies and pranks) but oddly nonchalant and blissfully unaware of actual danger. And still super strong.

>>149791741
I'm pretty sure the Scrappy hate on CN was pushed by older animators who hated working on the character

As a kid at the time I was mostly indifferent and frankly was sick of Scooby Doo in general because they played it for like 5 hours and I wanted to see literally anything else

>>149780659 (OP)
Nobody born after 1990 hates or cares about scrappy doo

>>149784579
People got tired of his catchphrase.

>>149786791
There was some ambiguity as to whether it was truly a fully mundane setting from the very first season of the very first series. For example, it was never made clear if Fu Lan Chi's encounter with the yeti was real or he was just a delusional old man who hallucinated the entire thing.

>>149780659 (OP)
Yes, he does.

>>149793851
There was also the episode with the "giggling green ghosts" at the confederate mansion. At the end of that episode there’s a floating haunted bone that Scoob immediately eats and it’s never explained. I have a headcanon that ghosts and monsters are indeed a real and observable, but EXTREMELY rare, phenomenon in the world of Scooby-Doo (like ball lightning or something) which is why so many people immediately jump to dressing up as them to cover for their crimes.

>>149794431
Yeah, he definitely does.

>>149794994
That would also handily explain why even the more rational members of the gang like Fred and Velma always keep the possibility that they're dealing with something genuinely supernatural open

>149793851
Mundane besides the existence of talking dogs, you mean.

>>149794431
>>149796955
What ideas do we have for him?

>>149780840
and also led to her soul beimg dragged to hell

Weren't there also some Cartoon Network interstitials where he was demeaned?

Make his voice cuter and no one would hate him

>>149780659 (OP)
At this point, there's more people shilling Scrappy than there are people who hate him. He's popular now.
You can stop with the people hating Scrappy meme, they don't exist anymore.

>>149780659 (OP)
His real problem was that later Scooby-Doo episodes featuring him made him a spotlight hog and a Leroy Jenkins before WoW was even a thing. So much so that they removed Fred, Velma and Daphne.

On paper he is actually a good idea. A pup that idolizes his uncle and wants to help him out and his friends. They literally have the power to fix him. But even WB thinks it fun to dunk on him.

>>149794994
>>149797727
>>149799150
And this is a good reason why we don't see this stuff in the actual shows but we do see them in movies where supernatural stuff actually is a very real thing.
And then that damn 13 Demons sequel came and screwed it up. Along with that horrible Zombie Island sequel. Not only were they a disappointment, I don't even acknowledge their existence.

Frankly, at this point, making "Scrappy is annoying" jokes is the /co/ equivalent of joking about airline food.