Thread 149782403

These are the only two animators I can think of with legit god-tier animation skills, who do you think animates better?

>>149782403 (OP)
Baxter beats Willaims in aninating horses.

>>149782403 (OP)
>Who’s the impressive

>>149782403 (OP)
Both of them would probably say Milt.

>>149782422
The Thief has some very good horse stuff.

>>149782490
>Both of them would probably say Milt.
I'm unfamiliar with that name

>>149782424
Fucking meant "more impressive" but I think autocorrect fucked it up or some shit

>>149782513
Milton Erwin Kahl (March 22, 1909 – April 19, 1987) was an American animator. He was one of (and often considered the most influential of) Walt Disney's supervisory team of animators, known as Disney's Nine Old Men.[1]

>>149782546
Milt does seem to have their kind of skill level.

>>149782403 (OP)
I'm going to give it to Williams because he was actually producing films on his own; even if most of his films were incomplete, Williams wanted to use his talents to make his own artistic statements; Baxter is incredibly skilled, but he also seems to be content with being a technician for other people's vision which isn't bad, but I feel that puts him at a tier of ambition lower than Williams as a creative

But they're both phenomenal character animators

I'm gonna give you a bump op

>>149783002
Yeah I wonder what Baxter would do if he had to make a movie

I, too, shall give you a bump, OP!

>>149786962
oh yeah also bump lol

>>149786971
>>149787027
It looks like Baxter is better at animating perspective when Williams is better at animating detail, though that isn’t to say either them are bad at animating either things, both are incredible

>>149787108
Baxter can animate detail too, I think Williams excels more as a director, he is always pushing a scene's complexity
https://youtu.be/hxR0FWEj3Oc?si=Lsd7Ip7GvCVQSX8T

No computers were involved with this.

>>149787508
Imagine working this hard for a shot that last 190+ frames (just over 3 seconds). Because it's glorious.

>>149787508
Insane draftsmanship. Animators are always interesting to me since they're amongst the best draftsmen I've seen but rarely do they have the ego/conceit of a director, writer, or showrunner. They never seem to want to make their own stories, for better or worse.

>>149782546
Williams is unquestionably the better filmmaker but this is why I’d favor Baxter for best animator. Williams always looked up to Milt Kahl but he was more of a filmmaker than a character actor himself. Kahl’s work has the same synthesis of design and soul that Baxter is the master of today.

>>149782403 (OP)
the knowledge is out there to become an animator like baxter
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlNJa9Yhmgqb0Qd9LHAd7HDVXjlkqcSTh

>>149788385
>milt kahl wasn't a character actor

What the fuck??? It should be illegal to be this incorrect.

>>149788483
That he himself refers to Williams, he wasn’t, Milt was, he never thought he reached Milt’s level because of that

>>149786971
The fact that he went the length to even perfectly trace over the CGI buildings

>>149787027
Holy shit the attention to detail is amazing, even the fingers on his hand gripping the staff move.

>>149782403 (OP)
This isn't a pissing contest, OP.

>>149790048
>>149789060
Yeah but Zigzag has 12 longass fingers because why not lol

>>149791896
The use of negative space in this shot is just IMMACULATE

>>149790048
I'd win anyway

>>149787572
Correction: It's actually slightly over 8 seconds.

One benefit Williams has over Baxter:
He’s better at exaggerating movements, Baxter leans more into semi-realism, while Williams typically uses more exaggerated and stylized movements, squash and stretch, as well as wild takes.

>>149782403 (OP)
Doesn't matter Uncle Ben, Koji Nanke is better than both of em!

>>149782403 (OP)
>James Baxter
Why do we praise western animators for doing rare pieces of work thats the same quality that Japan puts out weekly?

>>149796495
Against James Baxter AND Richard Williams?

>>149797575
Baxter is a good animator but his biggest claim to fame is simply not being asian

Its why sweatshops are pumping out movie quality episodes over there while Baxter can turn in a 5 second clip for Steven Universe and be heralded as a god

>>149790048
It isn't? Coulda fooled me...

>>149797588
If he were Jashiro Bashiro hed be known as an alright animator who can make short smooth scenes as long as theres minimal detail

>>149797575
Because good animation deserves praise period. We're just lucky Japan and France take animation seriously as a business.

>>149797575
Tf? I kept hearing One Piece has horrible animation but this is rad

>>149798878
cute feet

>>149790315
Hilarious optical illusion

>>149797575
One Piece looked like ass for literal decades before they finally got actually competent animators at the helm.

>>149801701
bait

>>149782403 (OP)
Yes.

>>149803182
This blows anything James Baxters made out of the water

Impressive how this was made with zero CGI

>>149804505
Yeah?

>>149805784
Yeah.

>>149782403 (OP)
what cartoon is this

>>149787725
Usually too busy focused on drawing to look up.
And when you have to deliver a few thousand images in sequence on a deadline, everything else kinda fades into a hypnotic trance and the rest of the world disappears for a while.
It's quite meditative.
But animators like recognition, and pats on head, like anyone else.

>>149797575
that looks like ass

>>149808490
wtf no it doesnt