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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:40:54 PM No.149786104
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Why is all of western media so terrified of portraying white men as cool and competent heroes and women as anything but all-powerful, white men hating girlbosses?
I don't know a single action show or movie from the last 10 years that has a white male hero who is written like your average modern female protagonist.
While female protagonist are always super tough girlbosses white male characters are either gay or weak, effeminate losers and idiots who spend the entire story getting humiliated and rescued or beaten up by girlboss "side characters"
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:42:08 PM No.149786141
>>149786104 (OP)
I blame anime for making the pussy MC be the new norm in the 2010's
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:45:27 PM No.149786226
You should read Tom of Finland. He's got what you're looking for.
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Anonymous
8/9/2025, 11:51:50 PM No.149786374
Sounds like you don't watch much movies
>>149786141
Usually anons say anime is better because anime doesn't have that
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:11:29 AM No.149786745
>>149786226
Tom of Finland is too based, redpilled, and masculine for OP. I bet he's too pussy for it.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 12:12:45 AM No.149786769
>>149786374
>Usually anons say anime is better because anime doesn't have that
Really? Anime notoriously has a bunch of pussy mc's, and that's what a lot of modern cartoonists grew up on
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:20:47 AM No.149787928
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>>149786104 (OP)
>Chat GPT tier wall of text
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:40:37 AM No.149788296
>>149786769
It's less that the Japanese anime MCs are pussies and more that the Japanese work hours and meikyu companies have caused an unhealthy level obsession with cuteness and youth.
The further back you go the more sorta seasoned adult male badasses you have, the cuteness obsession ramps up in the mid-1990s and it all sorta hits a slope from there. Every new MC is some breed of teenage boy even in anime meant for adults as a means of "recapturing youth."
You see it with the female characters too. As you head into the 2000s they all become significantly tropier with every last one of them being some breed of ___-dere as the basis of their character. Their designs get significantly more moe. Everything must be cuter. A lot of stuff related to anime makes more sense when you learn about kawaii culture. The cultural obsession borders on a fetishization of cuteness. The characters have to be cute, the cool stuff has to be cute, the funny stuff has to be cute, the sexy stuff has to be cute, even a lot of the threatening stuff has to be cute.
So you can get like this warlord MC slashing and shooting people up as he charges through the enemy in the most masculine way possible and he's a 5'3 teenage boy with a bob because there has to be room for him to be kawaii at times.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:47:27 AM No.149788415
>>149786104 (OP)
>Harrison Ford
>White
anon I..
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:53:14 AM No.149788515
>>149786104 (OP)
Because it's been overdone and the execs are always chasing new audiences instead of capitalizing on their stable base.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:55:06 AM No.149788558
>>149786104 (OP)
you sound like a reliable narrator.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:56:45 AM No.149788597
>>149788296
Dragon Ball had badass kids fighting though
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 1:59:23 AM No.149788645
>>149786104 (OP)
This is the kind of rambling made by someone who mainly consumes culture wars e-celeb commentary and engagement bait memes.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:06:17 AM No.149788772
>>149786374
Anime has that, in fact isekai self-insert powerfantasy BS with beta MCs is cancer killing anime, the only reason anons only say that is because anime has better goonbait women due to having a much better artstyle than western media so they can be pretentious faggots in their mind when their shit is just barely better than the estrogen factory that's western media.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:06:29 AM No.149788779
>>149786104 (OP)
Because those in charge of entertainment are leftists and hate white people, despite being white people
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:07:30 AM No.149788794
>>149788597
The original manga predates the mid 90s boom and even then, when you look at the Dragon Ball characters, a lot of them were meant to check off the kawaii box. The kawaii culture was always there but ramped up more and more as time went on.
The best example is JJBA part 4 which was coming out just as the big shift was happening and you see the art style change in real time to match.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:08:59 AM No.149788811
>>149788772
>having a much better artstyle than western medi
In general no
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:11:08 AM No.149788845
>>149788794
Why is "cute stuff" more popular with Japs than with Americans? They seem to have cute stuff plastered all over their works and adveritising while Americans were obsessed with trying to make things "cool"
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 2:15:37 AM No.149788906
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>>149788811
Lmao are you gonna pretend that beanmouth calarts or other shit cheap looking artstyles are anything good?
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:19:53 AM No.149789920
>>149788845
You need to go back to Japan's big recovery and bid for economic dominance in the 70s and 80s to really understand this.
Work hours are grueling, the hypercompetitive school system is grueling, everything is fucking exhausting.
People are tired.
Smething important of note is that kawaii culture largely started with stuff like cat cafes or little mascot characters.
So these things are like a little escape for all the people walking home tired from long work hours yet it starts proving more and more ridiculously popular for the youth.
Oh and that big economic bid they were making which would have put them on top of the world? America just rigged the game and swatted it down like a fly in the early 90s and left those youths more uncertain as to their future.
Kawaii culture was a stress response after WWII. In surrounding themselves with cute stuff, they'd think to joy, calm, innocence. The more stressful life got, the more it took off.
America, whether we like to admit it or not, had it pretty fucking easy until 3 recessions in a row combo'd us into the corner of the ring and you're now seeing a similar 'cute' obsession start to develop here.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:20:30 AM No.149789935
>>149786104 (OP)
Happens with non white males too. Spiderverse Miles Morales and Bow from She Ra are borderline femboys based on how little masculinity they display. They may get the girl in the end, but that's just due to generic happy ending writing. Puss in Boots got this treatment in the Last Wish as well if you want to call him a Latino variant, and if that's too much a stretch, you got Marco from Star Vs. who's basically Bow except Latino.

Can't really think of any Asian male MCs who get this treatment off the top of my head interestingly, but I'm sure anime has you covered on that front.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:22:10 AM No.149789960
>>149788906
I meant in general not just in modern time
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:22:55 AM No.149789971
>>149789935
Hiro Hamada? He's basically a twink whose manlier brother died
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:23:37 AM No.149789980
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>>149787928
ChatGPT would call you antisemitic for asking it to write that.
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:27:50 AM No.149790035
>>149789935
you know what? I’m gonna blame men for this.
modern men have become too soft to portray themselves as being anything other than childish weaklings being cared by a dom / maternal figure. writers are just not chads
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 3:57:19 AM No.149790562
>>149786104 (OP)
>Why is all of western media so terrified of portraying white men as cool and competent heroes and women as anything but all-powerful, white men hating girlbosses?
what the hell are you talking about?

>I don't know a single action show or movie from the last 10 years that has a white male hero who is written like your average modern female protagonist.
what is with this fixation on white males?
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 4:07:48 AM No.149790742
>>149789980
You have Grok if you want a racist ai to play with.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 5:44:48 AM No.149792200
>>149786104 (OP)
Make up your mind. Is representation for snowflake SJWs or do you want heckin brave white men represented?
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Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:05:09 AM No.149792565
>>149787928
If you don’t like it and can’t argue it, just ignore it. Saying it’s AI generated is a retarded cope. Imagine having to ad hominem a post on 4chan.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:07:30 AM No.149792617
rly?
rly?
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>>149792200
Notice how the wokefag needs to put everything into a dichotomy and then force a dilemma in which if you pick one you’re a hypocrite. When the matter is less about representation and more the fact that the archetype is being abused for the sake of someone’s retarded and spiteful agenda.
Anonymous
8/10/2025, 6:28:30 AM No.149793059
>>149790035
Well you have to consider that the industry goes out of its way to not hire or promote masculine men to influential jobs at companies. That's a big factor.