Thread 149809003

Christ that looks painful.

>>149809003 (OP)
Sette finally admitting her real age? I wonder if the bird reveal fixed her aging.

>>149809003 (OP)
Seems like a design flaw. Put her back in the oven and let her cook a bit longer.

>>149809079
Settes (and Jacaranda) weren't designed to live past sacrificing age at 12. No need to include any growth into adult characteristics past that point. It does raise a good point, though; is Sette biologically immortal? She can be killed, of course, but what happens to her if she lives to 50? 100? Could she outlive a Jet or Copper? Will she show any sign of age from cells breaking down over time, or will she be exactly as she is forever?

Sette and Duane were written as made for each other. So presumably the two will just keep on "living".

>>149809003 (OP)
So she's legal now, right?

Website comment:
>Adult enough to vote. And to drink. Even both at the same time!

>[https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project]

>Pledge now for professionally printed editions of the first two books of Unsounded featuring brand new covers and bonus material - and eventually a place in actual stores! If these sell well, we can get the whole series archived in print and on your shelves. We can do it! I want you to have these books!

>-Ashley
Patreon comment:
>All things considered, that's probably a healthy way for her to interpret all the physical changes. Maybe she'll even gain another foot of height if she keeps insisting it's all just her lazy body gettin' mature at last! Jivi is more skeptical...

>Two more weeks of updates until we're done! Just a reminder that stretch goals go live on the Kickstarter on Monday. If you're interested in commissions or cameos, don't sleep on this! [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ironspike/summer-2025-mystery-project]

>>149809079
>>149809234
I remember Tittybird saying something along the lines of her being the first attempt at an immortal, so I got the impression she'll live indefinitely if being a Shart doesn't catch up with her.
I also remember Tirna mentioning she's like 20 which caught me off guard. I spent most of the comic thinking she was like 14 or 15.

>>149809234
>>149809079
I think all the stuff that went down in the Khert "broke" her no aging curse.

She's changing. >>149809183

>>149809183
She's designed to die not long after the claws come in. Lazy-ass Ssael and Sessine probably figured the Settes wouldn't have enough time to poke at their own bodies too much before getting sacrificed

>Sette growing a foot taller
what's the next nonsense? Sette growing tits?

>>149809003 (OP)
wolverine jr

>>149811020
fuck you
>unlolies your main character

I wish there was drawfag art of teenage Sette. For scientific purposes.

>>149809003 (OP)
>I'm an adult!
Poor Jivi. She's almost twice your age! Haha

>>149811020
Imagine Sette giving herself giant milkers because they command both money and respect. But all jokes aside, the possibilities are exciting. Whatever she molds herself to be, it'll be under her own power for once. Go Sette!

uooo hag crimeboss Sette arc

I'm sorry I know it won't happen but Sette/Jivi is still my otp

>>149809444
Man I kinda want to get the physical books from the kickstarter, but the shipping are going to be pretty steep where I'm at.

>>149811645
Sette doesn't even have the parts

Got some questions/theories about the problem of consciousness in Kasslyne I wouldn't mind getting opinions on. Basically that in the world of Unsounded people presumably have brains, but in contrast to the physicalist position IRL those brains might not be the source of reasoning and consciousness. This might get a bit long

Evidence that might point towards this:
>1. people's souls/beings are mostly composed of memories that dissolve into the khert when they die. But those memories seem to also have some kind of innate behaviour and/or reasoning ability associated with them. Smoke eels aren't clever, but they act with a degree of purpose. People can use memories to create effective AI in pymaric constructs.
>2. Duane has more perfect recall now, when his brain is rotted, than he did when he was alive with a functioning brain
>3. Ruckmearkha's soul knife cuts away memories seemingly by damaging the physical body, and not necessarily the brain.
>4. When Bastion, who should know more about the Kasslynian soul than most, was cut by said knife he wondered if he was thinking of the memory he lost at the time he was cut.

I think there are a few, not necessarily mutually exclusive, possibilities:
1. In most living people the brain acts to interpret the khert soul-memories that actually make up a person's consciousness. So it influences the processing and characteristics of consciousness, but is not the origin of them.
2. The brain (probably) plays the same or a similar role in managing physiological processes as it does IRL. Like you still have a similar autonomic and somatic nervous system, get responses fired to move your legs and breathe etc. But note that this is not necessarily the case, as pymaric limbs work presumably without connecting to your nervous system and Duane sees with pymaric eyes without them linking in to any retina or visual cortex.
>(cont)

>>149812115
3. The brain and the soul represent two independent pathways of memories and possibly consciousness. Your memories are stored in your brain and your soul, and dependening on the circumstances you might use one or the other to make decisions and recall stuff.

I think there must be a kind of khert superstructure associated with each human body, which contains much of what we IRL usually assume to be physical aspects of the body. This makes sense considering the khert regulates almost everything about reality. I thought it was interesting Bastion wondered if he was thinking of what he lost at the time he was cut. It made me think it might be like this complex and instructive diagram I drew, where your khert soul is maybe constantly circulating through your body and what is accessible via your body is what is currently being accessed.

Ofc we have an idea from Duane that an intact soul might physically resemble a living person in the khert, but I'm not sure about that because it resembles undead Duane not alive Duane: I think it 1) might be to make things easier for the reader 2) might be because of Duane's self-perception. I think there is an argument that Duane has or IS a real soul, because he is capable of adjusting behaviour and making new memories whereas a khert AI would have a fixed consciousness only malleable by the influence of intruding ghosts.

(Maybe) contrasting that I think the question of whether senet beasts have souls is interesting. We are repeatedly told they cannot change in the comic, but they can store new information and adjust their responses. Duane doesn't really do more than that now he's dead.

the 'soul' is just a backup copy of the human brain, separate from the actual flesh and blood individual. in unsounded the soul is an unnatural construction cobbled together to defeat death. the unsounded universe is by nature a soulless, atheistic one. the soul in this universe is like the whole technocrat 'uploading your consciousness to a computer to live forever' theory, its no more the actual individual who has died than a jpg of the mona lisa is the actual mona lisa.

>>149812160
>question of whether senet beasts have souls is interesting. We are repeatedly told they cannot change in the comic, but they can store new information and adjust their responses. Duane doesn't really do more than that now he's dead.

The argument for senet beasts in the comic is that they are more instinctual, they have a 'nature' that they exemplify, Efheby are predators, Stormies are horny and playful, Ilganyag is a manipulative asshole who has a weird maternal instinct. In that way, they can't change their nature, but a human could change a mindset, like how we've seen Duane become a better person

>>149812237
>the 'soul' is just a backup copy of the human brain
The faction bastion lost a memory via his 'soul' being cut is what makes me skeptical of it being a separate, backup copy.

>>149812364
>The faction
THE FACT, jesus

>>149811963
If Jac can have a dick with no balls, Sette can have a vagina with no womb,

>>149812115
>>149812160
A couple things: I believe Ashley has confirmed #2 if I recall correctly, but I think #1 is a very interesting accompaniment. That primarily the khert does the remembering and account keeping, but your brain filters the meaning from that, and that would be what would separate constructs and creatures with brains.

I believe Ashley has also explicitly shared that Duane could take on other appearances in the khert and it's for to self perception. Is that done for the reader's benefit? Probably partially, but I think it does make sense unto itself. Same with glamours, he is who he sees himself to be. And I suspect that she might disagree that Duane does not and has not changed since his brain/body death in meaningful ways, and that even if he's not there yet this is a comic all about him changing and growing into being a better person. Though I think you could reasonably make the case against Ashley that he hasn't actually changed in as many meaningful ways as we might think: He always has been willing to put people, and especially children, over his principles of what one ought to do as an Aldish citizen, and even as a Ssaelit. Despite Ssaelit belief and scripture being very much anti-charity, he's been shown to be extremely kind and fairly charitable. He might be getting better at those things and how they interact, particularly with new experiences. But I don't think the core of him has fundamentally changed, these are all still very Duane things, looking past his beliefs to the person in front of him. At most he's (maybe) gotten better at it, or better at recognizing when he's not doing it. Though I think to me Ashley might say that that sounds an awful lot like change in the first place.
>>149812364
This and how efheby interact with humans really do pose very interesting metaphysical questions. Continued.

>>149813300
I believe the closest we have to a canon answer would be that humans are just very used to and reliant on the khert. They've adapted to the point there isn't a clear distinction between where one begins and the other ends. For example, hearing directly interfaces with the khert. Duane does not need to pymaric ears, and deafness simply is not a thing: the khert hears spells cast, and so metaphysically, it collects sound data in a more read/write way that Kasslynians can use versus the more static memories made into AI. I forget whether canonically a Kasslynian could learn to hear again without the khert, I think so, and I suspect the effect is similar on the brain. That with time, a Kasslynian could manage to use their brain in lieu of their soul for certain damages. I think forgetting your best friend, or having your their soul drunk, might be too fundamental to fully recover from, but we know that Bastion is mostly functioning as his usual charming self now, and that with time efheby victims b can recover, not their memories, but their general brain/soul connection can heal enough that they can function with the holes - if the efheby doesn't have continued access to drain them dry.

>>149809003 (OP)
Ok

>>149812657
It's crazy that you noticed this anon.

>>149812657
Pretty sure this is canon, I've seen Cope's Sette lewds and she always draws a vagina on her, complete with clit. There's just no baby-making equipment inside.

>>149813300
>>149813308
I appreciate your input anon, thank you. There's a lot of stuff I think might have been answered by Ashley in separate author questions that I just am not able to find. I contemplate joining the discord just to search through it but IDK how well organised they are, and I sort of like thinking through theories myself.

On the deafness/hearing without the khert, I am sure there's a cop in one of the khert fires in the comic, I think the Ethelmik one, who talks about how he knew someone who lost their aural aspects in a khert fire and has extreme vertigo: like literally if he didn't piss sitting down he would fall over. So I think if it goes, it goes, and there is no system of hearing for humans outside the khert.

Knowing humans in Kasslyne were likely largely designed makes these questions more interesting IMO, because it imposes a 'why' as well as the 'how'.

>if you're non-Aldish in Alderode the Dammakhert basically rolls gacha to decide what caste you are
These are Plats, porve me wrong.

>>149815388
My theory is that cosmic beings/gods saw Earth humans on Earth and decided they wanted their own pet monkeys, so they trashed their old senet beast game, and started up evolution and the khert in its place. They didn't have the interest or ability to work out their own sapient monkeys so they cribbed from Earth, skipping over eras they knew would be a dead end and rocketing straight to primates.

Do their version of humans have a point? Or is it all just a playground? They don't seem to interfere at all so they may have gotten bored and left, or are planning to come back later and left the senets in charge until then.

>>149815388
While they were designed, we know they evolved, and that Ilganyag was a major driver behind this. It's possible that a lot of their meatsack organs are (becoming) more vestigial now and that the better their bodies can function with the khert the less they need their brains. I suppose other animals are more dependent on their brains to carry out these functions.

>>149816039
That's actually super interesting. The idea that evolution isn't refining physical biology but actually reducing dependence on it by mainlining more and more khert-operated stuff over it. I mean when you think about Bastion's treatment of Elan Aled, his arrythmia or whatever, that was presumably pymarically communicated. I always assumed it was some kind of pymaric pacemaker but even that starts getting into what's instructed by the khert vs. what's there biologically. In this world the two seem inseparable but it definitely seems like the khert is the instructive and ruling process.

>>149816089
This makes me wonder, we know that the heart stopping in a Kasslynian is irreversibly fatal, no matter if they had our medical tech. The khert rules them dead. But what if they were far away at sea? Could the kind of medical tech we have now work to resuscitate them? And if they went back to land after, would they be classed as alive or dead?

>>149816178
This has 100% been tried in Juste.

>>149816206
I don't think so. For one, Juste wouldn't work. It has its own khert, separated from the larger khert, but existent nonetheless. I know they can program it with different rules, much like a pymaric, but I don't think telling it hey actually humans are alive even if the heart stops would be possible. For another, they don't have the medical tech we do for that process. It's never needed to develop because it's not something that's possible. And last, the more educated a wright you are the more ludicrous the idea would seem I think. Bastion's not trying to restart people's hearts to bring them back, he's trying to cheat death by putting someone's soul back in their body. Their tech has developed in such a different way to ours that it's hard to compare it. The only way to do this experiment would be on an ungrounded ship sailed out far to sea.

>>149816336
>For another, they don't have the medical tech we do for that process. It's never needed to develop because it's not something that's possible.
It is definitely known that electricity causes muscle contraction, and specifically that it causes it in the heart, because that's what Duane uses to crush the salt lizard.

>>149816380
I liked how that was set up earlier with him studying medical books so he could be a better army medic.

>>149816769
Considering heart stoppage is instant death in Kasslyne it's also a really brutal way for a particularly talented and precise wright to kill people. I actually see Duane in the military flashback as a bit flashier and showier a wright than he would have been as a full adult, and most of the time we see him fighting with pymary he has some guardrails up: he thinks he's properly duelling with Quigley, he has to think about saving Quigley and probably does not want to kill Rahm vs. Rahm (although I think Rahm gave a pretty good showing with his pymaric), he's taking his fellow Soud wrights to task at Litriya Shrine. But like fully intending to kill, thorns wearing, adult Duane with an electrical aspect? I wouldn't be surprised if he was just hitting hearts 1-2-3 and putting people down. It's a small target, the skin might be easier, but it's an assured fatality and I imagine he could do it.

>>149812115
>3. Ruckmearkha's soul knife cuts away memories seemingly by damaging the physical body, and not necessarily the brain.
That's incorrect, the soul knife cuts at the soul which resides inside the physical body

>>149818042
I mean either way it points to a storage and processing of memories outside of the physical brain.

>>149818172
Yeah I think this is dead on. The "soul" as a storage unit is the size of the living form it inhabits. It doesn't sit on top of the brain. That's probably only where the ports connecting it to the brain are. When Duane's ghost gets injured and starts to break up, it happens all over his ghost "body." He's one big spiritual circuit board.

>>149809003 (OP)
is it supposed to be crazy windy or does her hair just do that now?

>>149819656
windy

>>149819656
heckin wimdy

>>149819656
Hair Fairies.

Kickstarter stretch goals are released, kinda wack choices from iron circus on the rates

>>149821052
For real. If they don't want to make stickers, just don't make stickers. I don't think Ash had much input here though

>>149821052
I expect we'll hit the covers and maybe the color commissions.

>>149821052
The person running the community out reach portion is a retard

like take this from update 1

"Hello Fellow Frummagems!"

Like what the fuck is this "hello fellow kids" ass line

"We're not quite adding stretch goals yet, HOWEVER we realize that a lot of you want to be able to share this book with your friends. And getting someone to sit in front of a webcomic, even if it's finished, is like pulling teeth! (I would know, I was one of those friends attempting to be herded a few years ago! Hi Dean!) "

The Community Person dropped Unsounded for being a webcomic back in the day....what a fucking retard.

>>149821780
The person running the community side of things is probably just the publisher responsible for this getting a chance at all. I also find the promo stuff a little off putting, but I’m grateful for anyone bringing Unsounded to market.

I’m more worried about what the success of this KS could mean for future KSes. A ‘good’ KS for ICC looks like it’s been about $150,000. I doubt this one will get there, and this is probably the most successful Unsounded one we’ll see. So if running this is economically less successful than doing another short comics compilation, or NSFW graphic novel, will we ever see books 3-4 and 5-6? So I just hope this does well by the publisher metrics. I really want a full print collection of Unsounded.

You also have to be forgiving of stuff like ‘I *know* we never read webcomics that get recommended to us folks’ because the KS, ideally, would hook new people into Unsounded. And it is a hard fucking sell to be like yeah just read this textually dense 1,000 page fantasy doorstopper in comic format, no there are no elves or dwarves or cookie cutter magic, all the heroes are dicks in one way or another, you will have to actively think about what is going on minimum 3 times in the story, it’s gory as fuck, it’s also goofy and funny, one of the main characters talks like a pompous know-it-all with a hard-on for alliteration and the other is a hideously unlikable child.

Like I love Unsounded, I think it’s amazing and I’m still not sure I could convince more than 2 or 3 of my friends to try it. It is so much the work of one creator, which is wonderful, but less marketable. 90% of ad blurbs I see are like “It’s like Harry Potter meets Natural Born Killers!” “It’s like The Muppets meets Bayonetta!” - you can’t even easily Two Things Unsounded like that.

>>149821909
Yeah, I think this KS has always faced an uphill battle since it's a reprint of Ash's self published books. Those were really good books and I was satisfied with them so it was pure love of the comic that made me pledge to replace them at all.

I hope we get more print books but it's the web comic that keeps me coming back so whatever. I'm buzzing for the sequel

I guess we could go with ‘It’s like Alice in the Cities meets Earthsea’ lmao.

>>149821909
>The person running the community side of things is probably just the publisher responsible for this getting a chance at all
I know that doesn't mean I gotta respect them lo

>>149821780
I'd bet you a hundred dollars no one at the publisher has even read more than a few chapters of the comic. They have no idea how to market something like this and anyone is going to sound like a retard.
It's amazing this shit is getting published at all. It's poison to normies.
It's funniest following Cope's sm accounts, she's just hyping bratty Sette. I can almost feel her fucking teeth grating, I know she hates this lol

I stopped reading this comic after passionate intensity and I just got back into it and read through chap 17 & 18 up to completion this week.
It was a lot to take in.. but if I remember right, Jacaranda was Sette's brother, and he and Murkoph left the khert at the end of 18?
Quigleys death was brutal. Is Sessine really dead? A lot happened, a lot of characters died

>>149809003 (OP)
Giving Sette a knife she can always keep hidden is crazy work. Nobody’s pockets or ankles will ever be safe again.

>>149815484
I’m pretty sure the reason there are humans on Kasslyn is because Ashley didn’t want to design actual aliens. She actually considered removing ears from Kasslynians at one point so they’d seem aliens but iirc she nixed that because it looked all wrong.

So I think we’re meant to think of Kasslynians as aliens and not humans, they just happen to look human and use human terminology for the sake of sane storytelling. I know Ashley has jokingly called them squid people before on the tumblr when driving that point home.

>>149821909
Yeah, I’m willing to forgive them their awkwardness on this. They’re trying to help, even if they don’t know the community enough to tap into the rapport Ashley has, and like you, I’m just happy to see Undounded brought to print.

I think they started this small because of how risky and independent Unsounded is in particular. The fact that it crushed the original goal by 200% sends a positive message, because even if they were expecting to hit or go over that goal, 200% is a LOT. It means they know they seriously underestimated the actual interest.

It also means that they’re more likely to do books 3-4 because Unsounded in paperback means it will reach more people, and will hopefully have even more interest next KS.

>>149823190
I was so touched by the moment when Quigley, having been warning other characters about khert agitation for half the comic, does not let even one heartbeat go by after ruining his hand trying to save Matty before ruining his other hand trying the exact same thing. That was the true essence of things between him and Matty, if only he could have faced up to it earlier.

>>149823211
She manages to keep the big fucking cinquedea hidden just fine, let alone something more reasonably sized. Does this really make that much of a difference?

>>149823190
>Jacaranda was Sette's brother, and he and Murkoph left the khert at the end of 18?
I think that Jacaranda was the first Jacaranda, and there is another born at the same time as Sette somewhere in the northern continent (which means Alderode or beyond it).
>Is Sessine really dead?
I am not sure if her form could ever be restored now but some aspect of her at least remains in her silver infesting Murkoph.

>>149823190
Jacaranda was the brother of First Sette, modern Settes lion brother died in the womb.
Sessine isn't really dead, but to start regenerating she would need some outside help to get sustenance which is going to be hard to come by in the khert.

>>149823336
Hell yeah man she doesn’t even need a separate knife to cut purses now. She’s prob like 300% more efficient, minimum. Prolly more. If Sharteshane gets to hear of this they’ll be installing claws in every orphan going.

>>149823406
>modern Settes lion brother died in the womb.
ALLEGEDLY

>>149823279
>She actually considered removing ears from Kasslynians at one point so they’d seem aliens but iirc she nixed that because it looked all wrong.
This is one of those things that it’s good didn’t happen, because the comic probably would have bombed as everyone’s first response to it would have been WHERE ARE THEIR FUCKING EARS, but it’s really really REALLY funny to think about.

>>149823190
I did the same thing as you, stopped 1 chapter earlier, and if you have time it’s definitely worth doing a full reread. There’s a lot that reads differently earlier once you know the whole thing.

>>149823484
She also originally had people lack uvulas as a more subtle indicator, but at some point she out of habit drew someone with one and decided to stop and gave everyone their uvulas back.

>>149821052
Yeah they're pretty terrible. The stickers and maybe the covers are the best thing for the general fan. Color commissions and cameos don't affect anyone except the people who get them as add-ons, so they should have just been higher priced add-ons for people with money to burn on the comic, not add-ons you only can have the chance to buy if we raise that much. Especially because that would have helped us hit our stretch goals. They could have given us a hundred other different bonuses and it's a damn shame it's not Ashley running this herself, because we would be getting some great ones, but at least it means we'll get the books consistently and they'll hit the shelves to hopefully catch the eye of more people, without her working herself to death.

I particularly agree that the text of the Kickstarter really missed the mark in trying to please fans. Even the parts that aren't explicitly bad were a little painful to read because it just didn't match Ash's writing style and was mixed in with direct quotes that made it stand out even more. And, personally, I think the titles for book one and two are kind of bad. The Corpse With No Eyes? The Perils of Civilization? The first one makes enough sense but feels too on the nose and stylistically off compared to the chapter titles we usually get, and the second doesn't really sound like what the story is about at all.

I'm considering throwing the money I would've put towards a fun stretch goal or add-on to line Ashley's pockets with Patreon finally. She deserves the extra money, I want access to the stuff on there, and she'll probably lose some financial support during the hiatus between books one and two. Plus I would rather as much of my money as possible go to her directly.

Boo is Ssael theory

>>149823691
The Perils of Civilization is a pretty generic title, but it's the same one that the original volume two had.

>>149823691
>Plus I would rather as much of my money as possible go to her directly.

if you're backing a kickstarter primarily because you want to make sure the creator gets the maximum amount of money possible, back digitally and add extra. print costs mean ordering a physical book only gives them a thin slice of the money put in, where as digital they keep all of it.

>>149821909
>A ‘good’ KS for ICC looks like it’s been about $150,000. I doubt this one will get there, and this is probably the most successful Unsounded one we’ll see. So if running this is economically less successful than doing another short comics compilation, or NSFW graphic novel, will we ever see books 3-4 and 5-6? I think it's important to consider that these previous comics are likely considered in separate categories. Webcomics aren't unique to the genre divide. ICC funding porn comics does seem to be hitting that much, consistently. But I actually think the market for a passion project is smaller. And this seems to be reflected in their other webcomic endeavors too. I think they'll be comparing it to their SFW Kickstarters, and of those, I think Unsounded is doing very well. It's not leading the pack, of course, we're a niche comic. But a lot of things they've asked for funding for were much smaller projects garnering much less than this. We're pretty solidly middle of the road to a little ahead. And I don't think there's much chance the other books don't get printed. It's achievable, the demand is there. That's why we funded this project as quickly as we did. And they don't really take a financial risk on holding these Kickstarters, if we didn't get a book published they're (probably) not paying to get it printed. Unsounded is pretty safe to see the light of day in print form. And maybe if we're lucky the publishers will learn to play to our interests better in future Kickstarters.

>>149824810
I think future Kickstarters will do even better because they'll be all new content instead of reprints like this one. My friend isn't pledging because he already has the old books.

>>149824704
Fair enough, wasn't sure if it was Ashley's choice or the publisher, it's been a while since I've looked at the original print volumes. Either way I think the titles are lacking compared to our chapter titles.
>>149824764
Definitely. But it's not all I care about. I want the books, and I want to make sure we get print books going forward. I also want my books to be a matched set, not mismatched with my originals. But beyond that, yeah, I think I'll just sign up for Patreon. ICC and Kickstarter taking a cut each is more than whatever Patreon will take.

>>149824872
It'll be interesting to see how it pans out. The old Kickstarters did and I would expect it to generally trend that way especially if we get new readers from this, but would the next ones be during the hiatus? If so, that would limit visibility pretty severely. And if it's after, hype might have died down some. Or maybe not. This has been in high demand for quite some time.

>>149824203
Elaborate.

>>149824810
Lrn2greentext.

>>149824911
Patreon is kino. She posted a sweet Duane pic today, I think she's sad

>>149824994
Phone posting is hard. But I deserve that for being lazy with proofreading.
>>149825093
I hope she knows that she made the right choice. Even with our whining I don't think anyone here would begrudge her the publisher. We want this as much as she does. And we want it to be easy and painless on her and to be confident we get lots of books.

We just need multiple ads on every page of Unsounded. Clicking on bottles of beadman's should take you to an artisanal soda website. Sette's knife should take you to a CoD gambling stream.

I sorta really hope next page is Jivi's mom coming to get him and just being the biggest meanest mad bitch in the entire world.

>>149825696
>sees Sette
>"damn, this sexless eternal child is more of a man than you are, son"

>>149822336
>hat doesn't mean I gotta respect them
It wouldn't hurt, bitch.

>>149825847
We've had traumatizing father-son dysfunction, yes, but what about traumatizing mother-son dysfunction?

Jivi's actually such a heroic little kid, it'll break my heart to see him suffering. I think implicatively he probably cut and run on his mom though, because he doesn't ever volunteer the detail and a lot of his jumping into the fray seems like a reaction to an internal cowardice and self-doubt he experiences. Wish I could tell him it doesn't matter, it still counts, taking the action is what's important.

I figure the nicest thing that could probably happen for him and Matty would be Iori taking them in.

>>149824872
>My friend isn't pledging because he already has the old books.
He might end up with a gap then. These aren't reprints of the first two old books, they're two new books that are each larger than the previous ones.

>>149809003 (OP)
Is this that webcomic that started with a zombie escorting a bandit princess somewhere? What happened to her?

>>149826000
That's her in the OP. She died.

>>149826004
She got better

>>149825847
Sette will hate her in turn though. Crazy to think how far in advance Ashley set up some of these characters.
>>149825916
It's true, if nothing else they're facilitating the spread of Unsounded and helping to line Ashley's pockets without it taking nearly as much time or effort, meaning comparatively minimal attention is taken away from writing the comic. Maybe if we're lucky we'll get book two sooner, I wonder what the time frame is looking like right now.

>>149826000
It is. Give it a read. We're at the epilogue now with only a few more updates to go so you're not going to be forced to wait for anything to come out. There's going to be a sequel eventually though.

>>149825093
I saw that. A nice poetic bit with the contrast of zombie Duane covered in overgrowth admiring the butterfly. I was like "why is there an update on a non-update night?"

>>149809444
My only feeble attempt at an OC (via comm'd art) is a nerd with big tits so I don't think she'll fit.

>>149826030
>Sette will hate her in turn though.
Do you think? She's literally a pirate, she's the boss of an entire ship, she kills and loots to make a living. Sette will probably adore her, at least initially.

>>149826000
>What happened to her?
Lots of shit. Book 1 is nigh 4 pages away from finished and thus the halfway point for the story, the next book is going to take place on the other end of the continent with a mostly new cast.

>>149826055
Has Ashley had to delete her Unsounded lewds off Patreon or no? I know she's had to move some of the fics and drawings there.
>>149826121
Sette is an excellent judge of character and she likes Jivi. She might try to justify it through some of her own experiences with her da and gangs, and I think she's likely to respect her and probably find her cool, especially initially. But I don't know that she's going to like her unless she's better to Jivi than we've been led to believe. She doesn't like her da's right-hand man, for example.

>>149826167
Important to note our infamous zombie mage x crime lord's daughter duo will still be at the heart of it all.

>>149826121
>Sette will probably adore her, at least initially.
Sette is only a rogue on the outside. On the inside she has a heart of gold, and has been shown repeatedly to be almost instantly empathetic to people near her.

See how she sympathised with Stockyard, even though he tied her and Duane up and was very antagonistic. And how she instantly picked up on the issues between Duane and fucking lemon. If she sees Jivi's mum and the tension between them she's going to be instantly in Jivi's court.

>>149826525
This shot of them always warms my dead fucking heart

>>149826525
Yeah, for all her bluster she's a good kid. She only idolizes her cunt of a dad because that's her Da, she doesn't have it in her to be truly cutthroat like him. She's much more comfortable being a lovable rogue.

Ashley just posted an update to anyone still subscribed to her years-old original volume Kickstarters, advertising the new Kickstarter. In it, she describes Unsounded as "complete".

Is this it? I've heard rumours every now and again that she might do the Alderode chapter as a prose novel rather than a comic, but is she really abandoning Book Two and there'll be no more Unsounded after this epilogue?

>>149827575

The text of the new Kickstarter pitch also describes Unsounded as "complete" too. Looks like this is it...

Better that it finish than just go on and on. I'm honestly not sold with a post-Sette and Duane Unsounded. I'm sure it could be fine, but there will be a percentage that won't like it and jump ship. This is a good place to end the story, but maybe not the setting.

>>149827575
>but is she really abandoning Book Two
Really. Do pay attention, 007...

"Unsounded" is book one of the story, and it's complete.

Book Two is coming. It's still going to have Duane, Sette and Jivi in it. It is going to be primarily set in Alderode, and it seems at least the beginning is going to be focused on Mikaila and Will. Book Two is likely going to have a different name, not "Unsounded".

>>149827575
The first book's complete but it's getting a sequel. I just don't think she's calling it "Unsounded 2" because that's gay.

She's talked about the sequel all over the place but if you don't want to be spoiled, I'd avoid it.

>>149827629
It won't be post Sette and Duane. Those are our main characters. We're only trading out our secondaries. Ashley has been exceedingly transparent about this. And about >>149827646 as well. She's not stopping here. We're going to get more story, and right now it's intended to be a comic. Possibly still under the name Unsounded and possibly not, but it will be a direct sequel following the same main characters regardless.

>>149827668
>She's talked about the sequel all over the place but if you don't want to be spoiled, I'd avoid it.

Spoil away, I'm not that bothered. I'm just don't use Discord so am behind the curve on all of the Shocking Revelations, evidently.

>>149827695
You don't need to. You don't need an account to read her Tumblr and she talks about almost everything that gets discussed here on there.

>>149827695
>I'm just don't use Discord
There's Unsounded threads here three times a week when comics drop. If you ever looked at them you would have known.

>>149827695
Sure. Is split between Duane and Sette going off to investigate all Sette learned from bird tits and find her lion bro, and between Duane's daughter dealing with the civil war back home. I know we meet Jivi's mom, Will as an adult, Vampire's sister who is a ten foot tall woman, and I think Minnow is supposed to come back and help them find a typhoon whale.

I'm a super fan of Alderode so I'm looking forward to it all but if you were a fan of Elka, Toma, Cresce, I think they're all done.

>>149827718
>Vampire's sister who is a ten foot tall woman
She leads the march as well. The group of rebels Vienne wanted to give Uaid to.

I don't think Cresce is done per se, we'll see the effects of the queen's plan on Alderode. We'll see the engineer lady and maybe a few other characters. But Toma, Elka, Rahm, Iori, and Ufal are confirmed out of the story by this point.

>>149827718
>>149827783
There's also the Tanners. The Aldish gang in that flashback/memory Duane fell into. They're going to be very important to the story.

>>149827717

OK, so I don't go to 4chan as much as I used to, sue me.

>>149827879
I seriously recommend you add catching up on Ashley's posts on her Tumblr to the 'workflow' of reading an update. Just give new posts a quick read through every time you finish checking the new pages. It's all relevant worldbuilding, characterization, or other stuff. It goes a long way to keeping your knowledge current with the threads.

>>149821780
>The person running the community out reach portion is a retard
Why isn't ash doing that

>>149828052
The kickstarter is being run by the publisher. Ashley doesn't work for them.

>>149828135
>The kickstarter is being run by the publisher.
Oh. That is super weird. I figured given that all the previous ones were handled by her the publisher would just do you know
the publishing after she got all the money for them

>200k for cameos
at least that won't get anywhere
I can live without the metallic covers
I'm miffed about the stickers though

>>149815361
>Cope's Sette lewds
Wait what? Where?

>>149828510
They're not lewds. They're babby pictures, yet jannies exist so they cannnot be posted.

>>149827575
It's marketing buzzwords to not scare off backers, part 1 of the comic is complete

>>149828510
His head

>I am the managing editor at Iron Circus, the plan is Kickstart 3-4 next August, and 5-6 the August after that (we got out kickstarters planned through 2027). Unless we have delays with the printer, Book 1 will be in stores June 9th 2026. Book 2 we haven't picked a release date yet (that will get nailed down in October), but it will probably be October 2026 or November 2026. But we are shipping book 2 with book 1 to kickstarter backers, so even if book 1 gets to stores before it gets to backers, they will be getting book 2 well before it is in stores.

>Anyway, stretch goals were just announced! We try not to do too many physical things because that makes shipping more complicated. The first one is always making the cover nicer for everyone.

>>149829225
Had a look at the comments but had to turn away, people get so fucking whiny on crowdfunding sites. I don't think they have any idea how hard it can be to bring something to market. I mainly back board games and there's always someone saying why couldn't you do X, why didn't you do Y, etc. Same shit here.

>>149828184
>at least that won't get anywhere
Does knowing that one of the background dogs in an earlier chapter was someone's actual real dog bother you, whiny baby?

>>149829577
why are you putting words in my mouth you woman

>>149829606
If someone's dog being in the background for a few panels didn't upset you previously then why would you be glad that the cameo stretch goal wasn't going to be reached this time? Background characters exist. Letting people buy an inoffensive spot is literally just extra lunch money for Cope.

Or are you so autistic/ESL that you don't realise posting "at least this won't be happening" is expressing gladness?

Retard.

>>149829671
Bro I interpreted his post as "At least it won't make it to the cameo stretch goal so I don't have to miss out on getting one", chill

>>149829671
Do you always live like this

>>149809003 (OP)
Did you hear that Unsounded?

>>149828141
Publishers are supposed to promote your product, that's part of the services they do. If they don't they're not doing their job. This Kickstarter is a part of promoting it, it's also them raising the money for the act of publishing (remember, publishers pay you, you don't pay publishers) so that they don't have to take a big financial hit since they're relatively small as far as publishers go. Now, are they as good at promoting it as Ash herself? No. They don't know the target audience well enough. But hopefully they'll learn for future Kickstarters.
>>149828184
Same. I want stickers and pins but I'm not a big fan of the cameos.
>>149829671
NTA so I can't tell you his gripe with them, but to me the lowest point of the comic is the orc cameo or whatever it was in the brothel. Yeah, Ashley put her foot down after and made limitations on them, and yeah you could just imagine it's some guy ERPing his fursona. But he's doing that with a creature we have no indication exists in the world, not as a race of intelligent beings nor in their fiction. I know that even if we get cameos that's never going to be something she allows to happen again, but it is a section of the comic I really dislike and completely breaks my immersion.

>>149831989
>>breaks my immersion
>>takes place in the middle of a fantastical Disneyfied song and dance sequence

My dude....

>>149832058
I don't have the same problem that anon has with it, mainly because I think you can explain someone looking like that in Kasslyne, but it's also unfair to present his problem as somehow totally unreasonable like you are IMO. It is totally new and looks nothing like any other species we've seen so far, so I can understand how it would be immersion-breaking.

>>149831989
Those were the rough days of the comic, when no one was reading it and Ash was taking loli commissions to pay her rent. I can't hold the weird orc against her

>>149832058
Don't be obtuse. That's not how suspension of disbelief works. Let's say we had cameos going and someone put in a horse, a cat, a medieval knight, or a woman in a nun costume. All of those would stick out like a sore thumb. All are established to not exist in universe, and that is the case here as well. If you can tell the character that's a cameo it's a bad fit for the universe. I don't begrudge Ash the extra spending money, she should get it and I wish they had put that and color commissions as add ons instead. They're also not great incentives as stretch goals since they don't give back to the community overall despite the entire community needing to contribute to reach them. But I can still recognize that for the blight it is on the comic. There's a reason she was very explicit the last time she ran cameos that it was limited to dogs only. She learned from her mistakes allowing a fan to insert things into the universe that shouldn't be there.
>>149832148
I don't hold it against her, but I do see it as the one real mark against the comic. She was younger and less confident about putting her foot down. She learned from it. I still hate it every time I reread and it has soured my opinion on cameos overall. But even as it's done that, I know she won't make the same mistake ever again and I do wish she would have access to the cameos to earn some extra spending money.