Thread 149827970

LOL

>>149827970 (OP)
isn't the stigmata supposed to be in his palms? is that why shes upset?

>>149827970 (OP)
where sus? hat?

>>149827982
It's often depicted as that but accurately crucifixtions used the wrists because the hands wouldn't be able to support the body.

>>149827996
Bowtie.

>>149827982
>is that why shes upset?
Nah the joke is that her goal is redundant as Sinners already had the means for redemption to begin with through Christ

>>149828016
Half the mythos requires those realms separate from earth, 'redundant' would mean heaven, hell, and earth exist in a simultanum.

>>149828016
>only form or redemption requires you to worship jesus

>>149828032
Christianity's premise is 'anyone can be redeemed from sin, but do it before your time is up'. Hazbin's premise is 'come on that's too mean why can't they redeem even after they die?'.

>>149828040
It’s also weird because the show doesn’t seem to have purgatory (a place where people can actually work towards redemption) or acknowledge Big J. I’ve heard people cope and say there is no Christianity but Saint Peter is right there despite being vivified.

>>149828033
From a Christian paradigm, the same one this show uses, yes. Redemption comes through the belief in Christ and the path towards works which come after.

>>149828065
>It’s also weird because the show doesn’t seem to have purgatory
That's specific to Catholicism and not general consensus

>>149828008
thanks!

>>149828076
Is a show not the bible just make another bar call it purgatory

>>149828067
Welcome to those works.

>>149828090
You assume the show was that creative to begin with

>>149828095
>Fae
Don't make me stuff you into a jar

>>149828076
And the model of Hell is based on the Divine Comedy that has Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven (Paradise) as afterlife’s not to mention narratively it could have helped the show a bit to have it since it would have given the idea of redemption or anti-redemption more credence in Hell. Though this show feels Handicapped since basically no famous historical figures appear and it’s mostly just demons, angels, and Adam.

>>149828103
Don't threaten me with a good time, ah fuck I have to mention Disenchantment.

(hate breaking the fourth wall)

>>149828109
>And the model of Hell is based on the Divine Comedy that has Hell, Purgatory, and Heaven (Paradise)
That's a fair point

>>149828119
>lucy l-ussy

>>149828128
The point where I make a Bean joke and scram out of frame (gonna haunt whoever typed this gonna haunt whoever typed this gonna haunt whoever typed this)

>>149828076
purgatory was retconned out by the Pope at least 10 years ago

>>149828161
Not even the creator knows if conduct should be judged more harshly in one realm at greater strictness than another.

>>149828161
I don't take anything seriously from the Catholic church since 1965 and I am not even Catholic.

>>149828186
Doesn't not being Catholic make it easier to not take it seriously?

>>149828097
No I don't, common places

>>149828040
Aren't they basically stealing that from "The Good Place"?

>>149828193
To me it cements my theological view but I can still understand when an instution has deviated heavily from their own dogma. Especially if said deviation actually goes against my own theological views too.

>>149828204
No, they have a very specific plot. And Janet.

>>149828193
He’s clearly one of those Christians who are still seething at the idea that the church can just decide to modernise itself. Hence why he’s deliberately mentioning the year 1965 when they stopped giving mass in latin and condemned antisemitism etc.

>>149827970 (OP)
Did stonetoss of all people seriously make a comic about Hazbin Hotel

>>149827970 (OP)
I dont get it

>>149828232
>Hence why he’s deliberately mentioning the year 1965 when they stopped giving mass in latin and condemned antisemitism etc
That's not the reason why. Besides there was a bunch of stuff done in II

>>149828233
Why is this unexpected?

>>149828278
Hazbin Hotel is for the alphabet soup tumblrinas and tumblrfags. Just seems like the opposite of what ChudToss would enjoy.

>>149828297
That’s why it’s dunking it

>>149828297
It's not about enjoyment, it's about audience capture and algo engagement

>>149828306
Really? It doesn’t feel like a dunk. From the way he depicts the characters it seems more like he enjoyed the show.

>>149827970 (OP)
jesus is powerless (or doesn't want) to save people already in hell however so this doesn't make sense

>>149828324
That makes no sense, Jesus is God, he cannot be powerless

>>149828324
The point is that Sinners had plenty of chances prior to ending up in their situation to begin with

>>149828324
Someone already pointed it out >>149828040

>>149827970 (OP)
The fact the characters look better in the Stonetoss style than they do in the actual show.

>>149828033
Based.

My religion >>>>> All the others.

>>149827970 (OP)
I thought stonetoss hated jesus for being a jew

>>149828338
Except you can suddenly die and could never have time or chance to find redemption

>>149828377
>I thought stonetoss hated jesus for being a jew
Who, him or jesus?

>>149828387
God knows his own

>>149828391
Both

>>149828387
Pre-destination makes this redundant

>>149828391
Both.

>>149828377
Stonetoss will take whatever stance pisses off the most people at the moment; this is why he is right 99.9% of the time, because the majority is retarded and always picks the dumbass side.

>>149828405
>You were always destined to be in hell

Thanks Jesus! Great religion you got there.

>>149828418
It is what it is. Not everyone has the capacity to seek redemption even when offered it.

>>149828040
Infinite punishment for finite crime, and a crime that god knew before you even existed would happen.
>>149828324
>jesus is powerless (or doesn't want) to save people already in hell however so this doesn't make sense
The harrowing of hell is a thing, meaning he absolutely can, so it falls squarely in the "doesn't want to" for the vast majority of mankind.

>>149828427
>It is what it is. Not everyone has the capacity to seek redemption even when offered it.
Because god designed them to be unable to, because they were predestined from before they ever existed.

>>149828428
>Infinite punishment for finite crime
You were warned adequately and still chose to reject God

>and a crime that god knew before you even existed would happen
And God gave you the means to avoid that fate and wanted you to avoid that fate

>>149828451
>Because god designed them to be unable to
No, God did not design man to be with sin. God gave man freewill and God is aware of what fate that brings to people with freewill. That's pre-destination. God knows the outcome but does not create the endpoint on purpose.

>>149828428
Looks like we're slowly circling back around to my argument of different forms of creation having differentiable purpose

>>149828324
jesus literally went to hell to go rescue sinners before he went to heaven.

>>149827970 (OP)
Who has the balls to edit?

>>149828411
Nice try stonetoss now get back to pretending your legacy isnt among us

YOU BLODY BITCH BASTERD DO NOT REDEEM THE SINNERS SIR

>>149828458
>You were warned adequately and still chose to reject God
Can't be warned if you are hellbound before you even exist, which you are.
>And God gave you the means to avoid that fate and wanted you to avoid that fate
God designed you for that fate with no means of saving yourself because he knew every singular detail ahead of time. That's what being all-knowing means.
>>149828463
>No, God did not design man to be with sin.
Which is why all humans have sin from the start because of Adam.
>God gave man freewill and God is aware of what fate that brings to people with freewill.
Except he does know every fate before he creates you, so free will is not applicable.
You don't have free will if you are created with every decision made before you ever made it.
>That's pre-destination. God knows the outcome but does not create the endpoint on purpose.
He can just not create the hellbound because he always knows eons before he does that they would be hellbound. The endpoint is on purpose, because otherwise he would not create hellbound.
Omniscience does not work with free will.

>>149828507
>Can't be warned if you are hellbound before you even exist, which you are.
>God designed you for that fate with no means of saving yourself because he knew every singular detail ahead of time. That's what being all-knowing means.
You seem to think that because God knows the outcome, freewill doesn't exist. This is false. God knows the outcome despite freewill existing because he is omniscient.

>>149828463
>i knew with certainty that setting myself on fire would be bad, i knew i would burn because i made not just the fire, but the concept of fire itself with complete awareness of and intent for it to burn. I could have made it water or sand or any other non-burning thing, or even have made fire not burn, but i didnt.
>then i put the burning fire on myself already knowing that i woud burn and that i didnt want to be burned
>but its not my fault that i got burned when i set myself on fire with the fire i made. It had like, free will or something

>>149828752
God gave man free will and with free will we chose sin. You can't have a universe which does not have sin but has virtue, to define those concepts you need the inverse or they cannot exist conceptually. God intended to teach man this in the garden but Satan interfered and influenced Adam to learn about evil before understanding the ramifications of that.

>>149828476
Reminder that this is later Catholic fanfiction, but they were divinely inspired so it's true I guess.

>>149828840
Even in the orthodox myth it is a little sus an all knowing God could not see Satan ruining his plans. Also if the catholic free will is real, go ahead and choose to stop liking every single thing you like.

>>149828840
Man you are so far behind the philosophical curve on this. Lets make it easier for you and assume god cant violate logic and isnt the source of ethics
If god knows you're going to hell when he makes you then you DONT have free will by definition. By your own description it is predetermined, because its determinism. Free will is the ability to change the future. If your future is set then you dont have it.

Either god MUST NOT know where we're going or we MUST NOT have free will. Anything else is a logical contradiction

>>149828324
once again christians show off their intellectual inferiority

Suppose there is time travel.

Assume there is a protocol which says not to turn acronyms into words, but people never follow it since the one who designed these protocols is a genius who made all of existence jealous.

Reply to this post if you would call G.O.D. a punk bitch for:
1. Using omniscience
2. Lying about having omniscience
3. Doing too little for the advancement of magic since every belief system needs it if the whole afterlife concept is gonna work

>>149828871
>If god knows you're going to hell when he makes you then you DONT have free will by definition
Your definition of freewill is contemporary. Just because God is aware of your actions does not mean you don't have the freedom to make them. This is rigid thinking.

>>149828871
>Man you are so far behind the philosophical curve on this

>Posts the most basic philosophy question that's been answered for hundreds of years now

>>149828232
>we're submitting to globalists
>we're modern!

>>149828871
Holy shit you're dumb
God can make a rock so heavy even He can't lift it and then He lifts it anyways because He's GOD
You have all freedom to make your own decisions in life and God's omniscience being able to foresee your choices and their outcomes does not invalidate your freedom to make them

>>149828944
>It’s part of the Globalist agenda that the masses actually understand what the priest says!

>>149827970 (OP)
When the Stone is tossed
For some reason hazbin characters Look good in his style
But Jezus does not
Also funny toss watches hazbin

>>149828960
Nta but latin used to be taught at school

>>149828931
You're using magical thinking. There is no definition of free will other than independent agency. If i cannot alter the outcome of events then i do not have agency. Two contradictory things cannot simultaneously be true.

>>149828934
Post the answer any time

>>149828951
You've complicated things by making god capable of violating logic. But you're trying to use logic to explain something that you have determined is illogical. If you're "right" (not that that word means anything in this context) then theres literally nothing we can conclude about god or free will, anything is as likely to be true as anything else unless it isnt. The entire conversation is pointless

>>149828989
>You're using magical thinking
This is basic philosophy. How can you grand stand this badly over something you clearly don't understand?

>>149828989
The problem is you opperate from Aristotle philosophical understanding, Christianity does not. Christianity opperates from Plato and does not entertain Aristotle principles on a foundational level despite more modern theologians attempting to historically post hoc. They are completely different paradigms.

You would know this if you actually understood philosophy.

>>149829022
Did you mean aristotelian principles?
If you're gonna try to bait people maybe run a spell check first, it makes you look ESL

>>149829067
>muh ESL
I accept your concession.

>>149828233
There both the same stype of cringe, only diffrent flavour. Id say toss should make more hzbin hotel because hazbin characters aparently Look good in his style and is gonna make all the *right* people seethe

>>149828297
He might be hate watching it, or he just likes to laugh at alphabet media

>>149828320
Agreed, he seems to have enjoyed it to at least some extent

>>149828033
>>only form or redemption requires you to worship jesus
Literally.
>“I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. "

>>149829121
Glad to see this thread is going better than the last one

>>149827982
fpbp

>>149827970 (OP)
Their version of hell seems to align more with Buddhism. Animal like sinners condemned to hell yet can still be saved by a higher power. Their heaven is even Buddhist like virtuous people free to do whatever they want including sinning.

>>149829240
Is that why Japanese love this odd series?

>>149828484
I will and I took a masterclass in Redditor Editing.

>>149827970 (OP)
A Stonetoss comic that's actually funny?

>>149828186
The Pope has Papal Infallibility. Literally nothing he says on the canon of Christianity is wrong. Sorry lol :)

>>149829321
Marvelous! Mao would be so proud

>>149829329
Its more likley than you'd think!

>>149829329
Feel free to post it whenever you want.

>>149829336
Unless it goes against the literal text of scriptural canon.

>>149828428
>Infinite punishment for finite crime
You aren't in hell that long before being destroyed, and what do you think the death penalty is? You're warned repeatedly that the wages of sin is death, if you look at that and choose to ignore it that's on you.

>>149828507
>Except he does know every fate before he creates you, so free will is not applicable.
>You don't have free will if you are created with every decision made before you ever made it.
Anon if I put a cookie in front of a toddler I know pretty certainly that he's going to take it and eat it. That doesn't mean he didn't make the choice.

>>149829395
At this point I think >>149828507 is just trying to justify his own life choices because he is uncomfortable with how another faith system can classify him as freely choosing damnation.

>>149829240
Sounds like Lisa Simpson buddhism.

>>149828960
You realize latin was a taught subject, right? And yes, further localizing scripture to remove even more of its original context instead of becoming educated on it and the nuances within its language is a globalist action, it seeks to water down scripture into something more marketable and domesticated.

>>149828989
>You've complicated things by making god capable of violating logic
I didn't make anything, retard. God is. He is omniscient and omnipotent, he gives free will out of love.
You are the middest of midwits, a solid 94 IQ trying to act like reading some reddit posts makes you an actual theologist. If you are incapable of understanding the point of the mysteries then you are not worth talking to about any philosophical issue at all.

>>149827970 (OP)
I don't get it

>>149829432
Yeah, and tons of people still never fucking learned it because of how many people quit school at an early age.
>localizing scripture to remove even more of its original context
So it’s already bastardised by being spoken in Latin

>>149829465
Stonetoss likes Hazbin

>>149827982
>isn't the stigmata supposed to be in his palms?
Depends, also >>149828000
>is that why shes upset?
A cursory undertanding of Christianity seems like having Jesus on technically invaldiates her whole mission. But, if you want to be cereal, it doesn't really. Jesus' salvation is granted to those that are still living, not dead.
>>149828040
Correct! It's Viv's way to peddle universalism. Any serious Christians (yes, even protestants) do not take universalism seriously. Some even consider it to be heretical.

>>149829451
If you want to believe that then go for it. But if you want me to believe it then you cant just repeat these assertions on faith and expect it to mean anything to someone who isnt bought in. God superceeds logic? Sure, no problem. But that makes god paradoxical, nothing we can say about him has any logical meaning beyond that point. Can god make a brick so heavy that he cant lift it? Sure. Do rocks have free will? Why not. Do trees get up and walk around when we arent looking at them? Might as well. Are 3 and 2 actually the same number? Who can say?

Its all as valid as anything else because we cannot make a conclusion about something if the logic that conclusion is based on simply does not apply

>>149828065
>the show doesn’t seem to have purgatory
That's a Catholic doctrine. Protestants do not believe that. Not sure about Orthodox, but I heard they have "series of gates" that people have to pass through to get to heaven.
>or acknowledge Big J.
Yeah. It's weird that it didn't happen yet, since, again, Saint Peter's right there.

>>149828040
No the premise is literally that ONLY Jesus can save you.

>>149828324
Blasphemy. People in Hell don't want to be saved.

>>149827970 (OP)
Isn't this Stonetoss guy a self-hating Latinx Nazi with obesity and ASD tho???

>>149827970 (OP)
>believing jewish fairy tales meant to get goyim to comply with noahide law by worshipping the jew god(s)

>>149828040
If somebody was redeemable after death, they would have been forgiven in life already

>I murdered and raped people left and right for shit and giggles, but I didn't believe that whole hell and heaven shit existed!
Not redeemable.

All it took from the criminal on the cross was to recognize and regret the evil he did. There is no religion that makes salvation that simple.

>>149830281
>I murdered and raped people left and right for shit and giggles, but I believe in jesus so I get to go to heaven, unlike some of the people I raped and murdered

What a shitty religion

>>149830384
That's not how it works, you have to repent to be forgiven

>>149830281
>I don’t believe in something
>You are irredeemable

Funny how Christianity loves to damn majority of the world into eternal damnation

>>149830464
>I was doing evil things because I believed there were no bad consequences for me whatsoever
Now you get it?

>>149830384
I like how you ignore the acknowledging and regretting part because you can not criticize the real religion, just your strawman of it.

>>149830464
But everyone can be redeemed through the gospel

>>149827970 (OP)
i hate the modern satanic panic of "Erm did you guys know that hell... is le bad?"

>>149830489
>You’re evil because you didn’t believe in the church
>NO NOT THAT CHURCH, MY CHURCH

>>149828213
No but like, why would I care what a non-catholic thinks is year the church lost the plot, as opposed to a catholic? You've got like, no buy-in.

>>149828161
That's not true at all. Rosary is still used to pray for purgatoried souls

>>149830489
>do evil things
>repent despite not believing in any reward for repentance
>get punished for all eternity
or
>do evil things
>repent because you're scared of hell
>get rewarded with eternal life in heaven
Make this make sense.

>>149828040
>Now that I know there's punishment for my deeds, I want forgiveness
It just lacks sincerity.

>>149829432
But the bible wasn't written in Latin? Shouldn't they be reading it in Hebrew or at least Greek?

>>149827970 (OP)
Jesus is her grandfather anyway. It's all about family.

>>149828463
>God gave man freewill and-

Are you American?
The guy who gave them free will was SPECIFICALLY the other guy. Humans only know the differece between good and bad because they ate the apple. How is there free will if you don't even know what you do is bad or good?

>>149830721
Something omnipotence, gave free will.

>>149830636
FYI Iesu didn't speak Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic

>>149827970 (OP)
hey, ain't that last panel a reference to one of his previous comic? clever detail

>>149830784
I know you are actually christian because you don't seem to read the bible.

>>149828161
No it wasn’t

>>149828161
Why do non-Catholics day this retarded shit? No it wasn't.

>>149829336
Not true in the slightest

>>149831086
The only flavor of christianity dumber and gayer than catholicism are the evangelical christcuck zionist golems

>>149830585
>>149829349
Kek

>>149830535
Well, bearing in mind I am a protestant who agrees with conservative catholics views on the structure of their dogma despite being polar opposite odds, that should give you an indication how fucked the catholic church is.

>>149830721
>Are you American?
No.
>The guy who gave them free will was SPECIFICALLY the other guy
Ok you are an actual retard. Adam gained knowledge not free will. He already had free will. If he didn't have free will he would have never taken the apple from eve and eve would not have eaten from it to begin with. Satan tempted them. How can you tempt someone who is not of free agency and only to god?

>>149831844
>polar opposite ends*

>>149831844
>You're free to do what you want, unless you do something I don't like then I will punish you and all your children with eternal torture.

Yahweh is a narcissistic sadistic piece of shit

>>149831331
Yes I'm sure your pretend version of Christianity where you drink grape juice from a solo cup in a "church" that used to be a movie theatre is very serious and impressive.

>>149831923
Yeah. If you're children does something horrifically bad and damn their childrens children into the clutches of the sheer embodiment of evil I would punish them harshly too. Thankfully Jesus came to course direct!
>eternal torture
It's not eternal. Annihilation awaits for you.

>>149831331
Only america. It sucks evangelicals in the US are so badly compromised

>>149827970 (OP)
Stonetoss liking Hazbin was not in my bingo card

>>149832063
He likes the spider

>>149831923
Not the same anon, but I don't see it as torture, it's just life, with all the good and the bad parts it has.
>mortal life needs microorganisms to handle the micro aspects of the life cycle, so we have infectious diseases, but we also have things like fermentation, which is used for good things
>mortal life needs a way of maintaining the numbers of animals, so we have hunters and prey, each play their part in the cycle, and are important to the environment
>the mortal body is composed of many tiny living parts, and those have several needs and mechanisms to stay healthy, so we have hunger, but we also have the joy of eating and satiating other needs
>humans gained knowledge, and with it, ambition and desire, so we have wars and crime, but we are free not to submit to it, and with knowledge we can do good things like art, literature, music, science.

Once men gained 'knowledge of good and evil', they started to be responsible for their own actions, with which they can choose to do good or evil.

>>149829321
But you were already a Redditfag

>>149831987
>If you're children does something horrifically bad and damn their childrens children

What yahweh defines as bad or "sin" is arbitrary and narcissistic bullshit. Punishing a child for the "sins" of their ancestors is just flat out fucking evil.

Does god know what it's like to be fucked in the ass?

>>149832270
He is all-knowing so yes, he feels and knows every thrust.

>>149830614
I have said regret and recognition of done evil, which is not being scared of hell, but you are still responding to strawman instead.

>>149832268
>gain knowledge of evil
>do evil
>go against the embodiment of goodness and virtue
>"NONONO THIS IS UNFAOR AND SELFISH!!!"
Tough luck. What you think is evil about god is justice against the sins you are guilty of commiting. God is all that is good, he cannot be evil.

>>149828418
People have free will. The Bible is very clear that God takes every instance on a case-by-case basis, so if you never had the chance to hear of Christ and then die, you won't necessarily go to hell.

>>149832360
Adding on (also those were two separate thoughts in that comment but I jumped topics abruptly), if you have heard of Christ and actively rejected him then die, that is when you go to hell. Anyone (including those faggot televangelists) that claims they know who is and isn't going to heaven/hell is full of shit, only God knows per the Bible.

>>149832375
This. Ontop of that there is only one thing that is unforgiveble in the bible and that is rejecting the holy spirit once you have come to know it.

>>149832396
>rejecting the holy spirit once you have come to know it
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit*

Which was when the Parishes have knowingly lied about Jesus using Satan's power while he was doing exorcism

>>149832375
Are you a recent convert per chance?

>>149828161
Purgatory never existed in the first place. It was invented by medieval people.

>>149827970 (OP)
>jokes from. soneone who didn't watch the show
No wonder than latinx also hate Scooby Doo.

>>149827970 (OP)
BAAAAASSSSEEEDDDD

>>149832350
>justice against the sins you are guilty of commiting
What sin is a newborn infant guilty of committing?

>>149833065
None, they get Life Eternal. Next question?

>>149832689
One day, medicine will solve this.
Immortal horsegirl wife.

>>149827970 (OP)
based stoner

Hazbin was the first cartoon I couldnt watch for how demonic it was, like it was genuinely very disturbing so I gotta guess all its fans are completely fucking insane
Made me realize maybe those 90s parents were onto something

>>149828428
>and a crime that god knew before you even existed would happen
Only because you already did it. Free will is still a thing.

>>149830384
No you gotta repent and repent for real since God can tell, most people that rape and murder wont ever be able to repent for real from the bottom of thier hearts
That caricature of christianity you described has done a lot of damage to the world, it was retarded 30 years ago when I first heard it and its fucking retarded today
>lol just say u repent and u good!
Not how it works, retard

>>149828428
Its not punishment, God is giving people what they want.
Filthy sinners do not want to be in Heaven they would not be able to be in its presence at all to begin with they would burn into nothing
God is actually preserving the sinners even though they dont deserve it

>>149827970 (OP)
>Shittoss is a hellaverse fag
Lole

You can be redeemed if you let Charlie sit on your face.

>>149827970 (OP)
did viv seethepost about this on bluesky yet?

>>149833744
is viv a pedophile?
why would she be on bluesky?

>>149827970 (OP)
Is there any webcomic that has more cultural impact than Stonetoss? Like, damn son. Look at y'all copying him.

'toss has a nice house

>>149834097
That one in your screenshot looks average. Are you implying that's his address? Why are you making a post like that? I wish you would get doxxed so people could post your address and send some trigger-happy SWAT officers your way.

>>149834154
>America STILL isn't capable of telling a fake call from a real one
Why can't they just send a random officer to check out the place without engaging with anyone? You get a call saying OH NO JEFFREY DAHMER IS EATING PEOPLE ALIVE and you show up and there's fucking crickets, nobody stops and thinks they've been had? You know 99% of those calls are fake and just attempted murder.

>>149834469
why would you dox somebody just because you don't like them

>>149834388
Apparenly at least US police has gotten better at handling swat calls. Literally some officer rings your bell, asks if you are getting horribly butchered or asks your girlfriend if she's getting horribly butchered, notes down that duh, of course not, then they fuck off. Yeah it's always worrisome because americans and guns, but losers have been targeting random people and streamers and even fucking US politicians so much officers already know the caller is just wasting their time. Still 911 should get some filters in place so that real criminals don't get away with crime because officers are too busy pacifying the tantrums of internet losers.

>>149828033
>>149829138
These aren't the same thing. You don't have to worship Jesus, you just have to go through him. Follow his teachings, etc. Jesus wasn't really a fan of organized religion. Matthew 23 is entirely Jesus yelling at religious leaders for being shitheels.

>>149828040
While we exist on earth, we are temporal beings, when we sin, we reject God we do so in a moment, and that can be repented in the next. When we reject God in his presence, we do so in eternity, and reject him throughout all time.

Religion is just real life headcanon shit.

>>149827970 (OP)
Can someone explain this to me? I don't watch Hingloo Hotel or whatever.

>>149835054
Can someone explain this one to me too?

>>149835223
It was some goyslop cartoon by the Daily Wire.

>>149827970 (OP)

New toes dropped.

>>149835028
>stonetoss renamon

nice

>>149829754
And a mutilated dick from a botched circumcision, IIRC

>>149836332
All circumcisions result in a mutilated dick. that's the entire point of circumcision.

>>149836332
wtf I hate jews now

>>149827970 (OP)
I bet Vivzie would HATE if Stonetoss just became a prominent figure in the fandom.

>>149835106
Idgi

>>149835054
Lmao isn’t that the guy from the conservative show sponsored by the Daily Wire

>>149830631
The point is that people can grow and change for the better after finally understanding the consequences of stupid or selfish things that they've done in the past. And the concept of Hell denies that idea, because people are expected to suffer forever for their finite mistakes.

>>149828161
What? No it wasn't, if you go to any Catholic church now and look in their newsletter you'll still see they have at least a few masses every week dedicated to "all souls in Purgatory".

Christ is King. Remember that Jesus loves you guys.

>>149839852
:)

>>149827970 (OP)

Is this real? did Toss drew this

>>149827982
I don't know whatever interpretation of Christianity Vizi has based her cartoon on but I think Jesus is being an asshole coming and trying to take credit for her efforts. That or Ross is saying that God's forgiveness is always there waiting to redeem someone even in the pits of hell, which still makes him seem like a dick since Hasbin Lady went through thr actual effort to make these sinners change although you could interpet it as the sinner would never find redemption without Christ, even with all the rehab work.

Kind of a head scratcher.

>>149835151
vivzipop is a jew or something, so Jesus doesn't exist in her version of Christianity.

God bless stone toss.

>>149829754
He's witty and funny and that makes losers seethe. I don't even agree with all his poilitics but damn I love how amazing this guy is. His comics bring pure joy.

>>149841308
Amen to that.

Why do people personify God when Jesus is the only real explicietly human entity of the Godhead?
>Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see Me and live
>No man hath seen God at any time

Yet in western art he is almost always portrayed as a man. Weirdly, Smiling Friends has one of the more semi-accurate depictions of God in /co/ media with the obscuring of the face, but he is still clearly a man.

>>149843817
He's the Father of course He's a Man

>>149843817
God's appearance in the Bible can be extrapolated from Ezekiel's vision, and depending on the translation he's an enormous blue or amber humanoid sitting on an awesome throne surrounded by angels. He's made of fire and light.

Gnostics visualized God (or to be specific YHWH) as a lion's head on a serpent's body, sometimes with wings.

Modern art depicts God as a guy in a tunic or toga because they're pulling from Renaissance art which depicted God as an guy in a tunic or toga.

>>149827970 (OP)
Can the guys who made the big boobs Stonetoss edits put some massive milkers on Sera? Please and thank you.

>>149843865
>He's the Father of course He's a Man

>>149843919
you tryin to say that Women can be fathers or somethin?

>>149835028
This, but unironically.

>>149832689
>>149835028
Stonetoss should draw more sexy ladies

>>149830585
Good.

>>149843817
Because Adam was made in his image.

Let's post the best edit.

>>149830636
Aramaic
Hence why i said "remove EVEN MORE of its original context"

>>149845663
But that could mean several different things. It does not just literally mean appearance or form, it could also portentially mean in the image of God's substance or essence.

>>149846011
And there we have a problem. If the absolutely perfect scripture requires human interpretation to fucking understand, then
>you are following a bunch of human ideas that were never ever coming from Elohimjehovah guy whispering his divine sweet nothings into the virgin ears of the scribes
>you are committing The Original Sin™ AGAIN by using your supposedly imperfect human mind to understand the 100% perfect ideas from God

>>149830808
>didn't speak Hebrew
>reads Hebrew in gospels

>>149846074
>If the absolutely perfect scripture requires human interpretation to fucking understand
I mean Jesus did speak in parables and the book of revelation is notoriously abstract

This is a good point though: If Jesus absolved mankind of their sins, why do people go to Hell at all? Shouldn't everyone go to Heaven no matter what?

>>149843176
Nah Jesus exists in Hazbin, he's just always just offscreen gently shaking his head at all this tomfoolery going on so everyone knows he doesn't fuck with it.

>>149846466
>This is a good point though: If Jesus absolved mankind of their sins, why do people go to Hell at all
He absolved the sins of those in who perished or sinned in the old testament and provided the means in the present for those who came after. But that's the key word there: the means to redemption. You need to heed his teachings and believe in him to be able to use the means given to you through is sacrifice. If he didn't die on the cross you wouldn't even have the chance to redeem yourself today. That is why Christians see it as a gift and not a transaction.

>>149828507
>Except he does know every fate before he creates you, so free will is not applicable.
>You don't have free will if you are created with every decision made before you ever made it.
I think an easy way to see it, is that God knows the result of every possible action you could take. Knowing it wouldn't change the fact that you can still choose your actions. Your deterministic approach is not even what most Christian denominations use, nobody is born already predestined to Heaven or He'll, unless you are a Calvinist.

>>149846447
Parables, that requires you using your mind to understand. But understanding the nature of good and evil is a sin.

>>149846689
>But understanding the nature of good and evil is a sin.
That's not how that works. Knowing evil is not sin in of itself, but knowing evil gives you the capacity to commit those sins. That is why God was reluctant to allow Adam or Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge as all they knew was good up until that point.

>>149835028
This but unironically.

>>149846525
>Your deterministic approach is not even what most Christian denominations use, nobody is born already predestined to Heaven or He'll, unless you are a Calvinist
Nta but a lot of protestants denominations do use it aside from "Calvinists". Even Luther himself believed in determinism but thought that it being empthasized would cause more harm than good with potential converts.

amogus

>>149847207
This comic is actually about male circumcision.

>>149846727
>That's not how that works
And so, the mental gymnastics continue.

>>149846466
Jesus wasn't the son of God because the one true god is Lord Moloch, and He hates us all and wants us to suffer.

>>149847440
That's not mental gymnastics. You just don't understand the material you are tyring to get gotchas or slamdunks out of and sounding like a retard. Lurk moar on /x/ and hear the parroted counter Christian talking points so you actually have a leg to stand on.

>>149839364
BTW, that anon's post is an edit that shows a frame of Barneyfag after a while. Same "joke" for the other 2 GIFs below that.

>>149847535
Uh oh, it's this poster...

>>149847558
The sooner you accept that evil is going to win and stop trying to fight it, the better. The ultimate triumph of evil is what all of history has been building up to. Who are you to stop it? Lord Moloch is the god that humanity truly wants: a hateful, spiteful, malicious, insane, howling, snarling god who encourages evil instead of demanding that we repress our true nature.

>>149847377
there's no rabbi

>>149847607
I'm jewish btw

>>149847627
The difference between jews and gentiles means nothing to Lord Moloch. We're all just meat to be devoured. We all bleed and suffer and die the same. Only through pain does our existence have any meaning.

>>149847615
Most WASP families make their baby boys circumcised by doctors, not rabbi.

>>149847646
You heathens will bow before Christ at the end either way. If you do not accept Him and continue your child-sacrificing ways, you truly will die.

>>149827970 (OP)
Bowtie in first panel

>>149834679
Right 'religious leaders' in vague non specific sense not the literal same people that follow rabbinical judaism today and their entire belief paradigm and strange interpretation of scripture. they still exist. Its not a vague disapproval of "religion" its specifically against rabbinical judaism. I get what youre saying but it only becomes a non specific thing 'against religion' when you ignore this specific point in order to avoid 'antisemetism'

>>149828841
No, in John he specifically says he has not yet went to the Father (in Heaven) he went underground to the soul chambers. And this became "hell" in later fanfiction as youre pointing out but Paradise is underground, Paradise is not heaven, he did in fact go underground after the cross, specified in Matthew 12:39–40
Just like Jonah in Jonah 2:6 "I went down to the land whose bars closed upon me for ever;
yet thou didst bring up my life from the Pit, O Lord my God."
and 2 Esdras (which is real and authentic written by Ezra) confirms paradise is underground 2 Esdras 7:36/ 4:7/8:52 ----> Luke 23:43

>>149828377
Jesus is Yahu'Dim from the tribe of Yahu'Dah. The modern people called "Jews" are not from the descent of Shem they are from Japheth, they are not related culturally or genetically to Jesus.

>>149835125
>gif
YOU'LL BE FUCKING DEFENESTRATED
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>>149835134
>gif
GO SHOOT UP A FUCKING SCHOOL IF YOU'RE SO FIRM IN YOUR BELIEF THAT THE WAY TO REALLY MAKE IT IN LIFE IS TO GET PEOPLE AS RILED UP AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE APPARENTLY, BY YOUR FUCKING STANDARDS, YOU'LL BE HEAVEN'S DIVINE GRACE BY SHOOTING A BUNCH OF FUCKING CHILDREN. THEN YOU'LL GET A BUNCH OF FUCKING PEOPLE GIVING YOU "LE EBIN REACTIONS", AND IT MIGHT GET YOU FUCKING KILLED AS WELL
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>>149835106
>gif
AND YOU'LL BE LEFT FOR DEAD
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>>149849312
Bruh we know you're not a bot give it up.

>>149835028
>gif
YOU'LL BE DUMPED IN A FUCKING RIVER
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STFU Barneyfag larper

>>149835134
>gif
GO SHOOT UP A FUCKING SCHOOL IF YOU'RE SO FIRM IN YOUR BELIEF THAT THE WAY TO REALLY MAKE IT IN LIFE IS TO GET PEOPLE AS RILED UP AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE APPARENTLY, BY YOUR FUCKING STANDARDS, YOU'LL BE HEAVEN'S DIVINE GRACE BY SHOOTING A BUNCH OF FUCKING CHILDREN.

>>149835134
THEN YOU'LL GET A BUNCH OF FUCKING PEOPLE GIVING YOU "LE EBIN REACTIONS", AND IT MIGHT GET YOU FUCKING KILLED AS WELL
https://derp.ibooru.org/images/2217720
https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2019/12/10/2217720__safe_edit_edited+screencap_screencap_applejack_fluttershy_pinkie+pie_rainbow+dash_rarity_sci-dash-twi_sunset+shimmer_twilight+sparkle_equestria+girls_e.jpg

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>>149828377
jesus is Irish