Thread 149830511

Why Marvel did not pushed him like they push that lil bitch nigga down everyone's throat? He had the potential

But he was created to die and push the consequences of a book.

>>149830511 (OP)
Because nobody liked him. To shill and push a character, people have to first like the character.

>>149830511 (OP)
No MCU potential though.
And that’s what’s really counts ever since 2012.

>>149830850
No he wasn't. Instead of even trying to get behind a new character, Marvel just let another book kill him, and even after he got brought back, he never really got another chance to take off.

>>149830872
>Because nobody liked him. To shill and push a character, people have to first like the character.
And by "people" what matters most is "people within Marvel" more than "the readers" unless a book sells so well as to make the character undeniable.

>>149830872
No one likes Miles besides Benis and the 3 cuckold enthusiasts here, yet they push him

>>149831034
>>149831061

When a character has a following and good feedback, you get Ms. Marvel.

When a character has a decent following and big name writer push, you get Miles.

When a character has no following and big writer push, you get Iron Girl.

When a character has gooners cult following, you get Gwenpool.

When a character has nothing you get Gravity.

Now you two are here and make up 90% of the fan base so you can both hold each other in the corner for a circle jerk.

>>149831100
>when a character has corporate and agenda push, you get Miles and the rest of this bs
Fix'd.

Do you actually care about Gravity or is this just another thread to complain about Miles?

>>149831100
>When a character has gooners cult following, you get Gwenpool.
"They're all gooners?"

>>149831505
Yes. If she was Bug/Deadpool as her design she would be hated.

>>149830511 (OP)
literally who

>>149830511 (OP)
He should have banged Firestar when he had a chance

>>149831446
what a fantastic way to admit you're a retard who didn't read the post

>>149830511 (OP)
Looks meh

>>149830511 (OP)
They did push him. For years. He never caught on and disappeared.

>>149830511 (OP)
Is this Graviton's disowned son?

>>149831100
>Ms. Marvel
Gonne after that election edition...

>Miles
Popular with some gay black people for some reason...

>Ironheart
Strange...created by the SAME guy that created Miles

>Gwenpool
Who is a gooner itself

>Gravity
Too dc comics caracter to made in Marvel

>>149834241
No, but he did fight someone who thought he was Graviton's bastard

After Radioactive Man's bastard nuked Ground Zero

>>149831034
The original plan when they killed him was to immediately bring him back as the new Captain Marvel with McKeever writing his series. Then they decided the Skrull Mar-Vell thing was a better idea for whatever reason so they abandoned it and McDuffie had to bring him back later on in his Fantastic Four run. Everything might have been mitigated if they went through with their original plan but they didn't and it wound up completely killing the character in the womb.

Truthfully, I can't think of a writer that's been as needlessly and pointlessly screwed over as McKeever.

>>149833962
>They did push him. For years.
His miniseries ran from June 2005 to October 2005. The next time he showed up was the Beyond! miniseries where he died in Beyond! #6 which was December 2006. He was around for barely longer than a year before he was killed. Again, he was killed because the intent was to make him the new Captain Marvel then editorial squelched on it so McDuffie brought him back after Civil War (in a story that's mostly infamous for T'Challa beating Silver Surfer with a hammerlock) as a mea culpa. But by that point the character had been ruined. He only showed up in a few things that McKeever wrote when he came back to Marvel and hasn't been in anything since a Fear Itself: Youth In Revolt which was basically the last real appearance for a lot of teen heroes like Ultra Girl, Thor Girl and most of the Initiative characters.

>>149830511 (OP)
I miss the initiative era too.

>>149830511 (OP)
They should put him in Rivals

>>149830872
I like him.

>>149837388
What was it with 2000s Marvel and just spamming new young heroes left and right?? The 90s and 2010s had it too but they weren’t THIS bad.
- New X-Men/Academy X
- Young Avengers
- the Initiative
- Gravity
- Arana
- Runaways
- Secret Warriors
And prolly more I’m forgetting.

>>149839683
It carried into the early 2010s and then kinda hit a wall in the middle.
- Avengers Academy/Arena
- Miles
- new Ghost Rider
- new Nova
- new Ms. Marvel
- Ironheart
- Hope and the Five Lights
- the Jean Grey School students
- a new New Warriors team
- the Nuhumans
- Viv and Vin
- Nadia
- the other Champions kids
- Gwenpool
- Gabby
- some more random X-kids
- Alpha
- Moon Girl
And it just kinda hit a wall in 2016.
The 2020s has had:

>>149839785
Whoops.
2020s:
- Spider-Boy & Funhouse
- Strange Academy
- New Champions
- the Outliers and another new group of X-kids
- more random mutant kids from Krakoa
- new Avengers Academy
- Dylan as Venom
- prolly more I’m forgetting

>>149830511 (OP)
Because Gravity sucks. He was created for the sole purpose of being killed off. They eventually bought him back and did nothing with him. Was better off leaving him dead.

>>149839993
>He was created for the sole purpose of being killed off.
Not really.

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/sean-mckeever-and-mike-norton-on-creating-gravity

Actually I didn't know this but Gravity was part of a New Warriors pitch McKeever did and was originally supposed to be a girl using the Marvel Girl moniker. The entire character as he wound up being was a straight up homage to the Stern era Peter Parker. The killing him off to revive him as Captain Marvel (and that story being aborted after Gravity was killed in Beyond!) only came up after the mini had been published.

>>149836001
>T'Challa beating Silver Surfer with a hammerlock
A concept so retarded most of us thought that was Hudlin

>>149840072
>part of a New Warriors pitch
Huh. I swore he was on a New Warriors team but he never was, maybe I read that somewhere and just kinda subsumed it into my mind lol

>>149841903
During the Initiative era he was briefly assigned to the Great Lakes Avengers

There was a New Warriors pilot that was like half GLA, the main characters were Squirrel Girl and Mr Immortal

>>149839683
Well they stop a little because they always try make Kamalah and Miles happen

I feel like they were trying to make Justice 2

>>149834458

>Too dc comics caracter to made in Marvel

naw. if he wasnt a member of the batfamily he wouldnt be remembered at all. how many people remember who son of vulcan is?

>>149839683
theres a lot of dead kids in that lineup...

>>149830872
I literally have physical copies of every appearance he's had. He's my favorite background Marvel hero

>>149831100
You're thinking of Spider-Gwen, common mix-up.

>>149840310
Has it even been shown that Vibranium can't be phased through? Not that that's the only problem with that scene but it would at least give you SOME idea what T'challa was thinking.

>>149830511 (OP)
This is the ideal street level superhero costume. It is the perfect balance of iconic yet completely practical without being full on tactical gear.

>>149839931
kek the ones who stick around and had current ongoing are dan slott creation

>>149842871
/Based./ Collecting niche characters is so fun.
I collect two characters at the moment. One has exactly 10 appearances, the other's a C-lister and in a current ongoing.

>>149843724
>C-lister and in a current ongoing
whos marvel tigra?

>>149842417
Like the link said, McKeever and Mike Norton created the character as a girl, pitched it to Marvel and got turned down. Then Marvel was starting their Marvel Next imprint which was a Tsunami replacement, the editor asked McKeever for a pitch and he and Norton reworked the character into a modern ESU era Peter Parker.

>>149842990
Norton is a decent artist and it's a shame he never broke out because he's not flashy. His biggest work was a run on Simone's All-New Atom and it looms like his last Big Two work was a couple of issues of Titans Academy.

>>149843740
??

>>149842990
Agreed, I'd give this 9/10.